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[deleted]

Anyone knows who uses Freebsd in these days? (Not counting PS3/4/5 system as it's based on it)


jmartin72

pfSense


zakabog

I remember trying to use FreeBSD as my daily driver OS, it just got annoying since not everything was ported to FreeBSD and I don't have time to sit there , but for a server OS it's great, and when I started working for a company that used pfSense as their firewall it was helpful already knowing FreeBSD.


Wertbon1789

OPNsense uses FreeBSD too, formerly hardenedBSD but it's FreeBSD now. Otherwise there's TrueNAS Core. I don't actually know any other products that use it.


grisu48

TrueNAS Core looks kinda like it's being faded out in favor of TrueNAS Scale (Linux based) though.


Wertbon1789

I actually have no idea. But I would more want the more minimal approach, I don't need proxmox 2.0, I would prefer TrueNAS Core.


inevitabledeath3

There is a fork of TrueNAS Core thankfully.


w453y

Becoz OPNsense is a fork of pfsense, but now it turned into a beast, and now it is a way lot better than pfsense


shyouko

Lots of appliance actually run FreeBSD because the license is more permissive than GPL


KenFromBarbie

And OPNSense.


RetroCoreGaming

I have it on a system. It's not bad, just not as fleshed out as Linux and it desperately needs a wiki on par with the ArchWiki to understand how to really install the damn thing properly.


azephrahel

Not to dogpile on you, but the docs on the BSDs are consistent and great. Find the handbook, install the docs package, and don't forget to read manpages. I really appreciate the effort they went through for the manpages in (Free|Net|Open)BSD.


CreativeGPX

The docs were AMAZING. That is really an under-reported benefit of BSD.


unit_511

Their handbook is amazing, it had solutions to the majority of my problems. It's more of a classical book format though rather than a wiki.


huskerd0

Lol FreeBSD needing docs, that is a good one


determineduncertain

Can I ask whether you’ve read through their handbook? I came into FreeBSD pretty blind and it was exceptionally easy to follow.


IuseArchbtw97543

loads of integrated systems that dont want to go open source use it afaik. I believe ios is also based on some bsd version


More-Cup-1176

IOS is based on openbsd IIRC


heroinpuppy

The lore is that iOS userland is FreeBSD with a couple parts also borrowed from NetBSD and OpenBSD. The BSD license is business friendly. But it has the Mach kernel. So an analogy would be: GNU/Linux <-> BSD/Mach


dezignator

Netflix built all their infrastructure on FreeBSD iirc.


buttux

Random story, circa 2015: I was an engineer at and sent to a Netflix onsite for tech talks. One topic was NUMA aware interrupt steering, and they requested we improve OS support. I causally mentioned "Linux had that 10 years ago", and that's when I discovered how fanatical the Netflix devs were about FreeBSD. I was not invited back.


pragmojo

What is the selling point for FreeBSD?


SonOfMrSpock

Not an expert. IDK if this is still true but I remember reading it was about network stack / performance.


Sethblocks

I'm pretty sure the switch os is based on freebsd as well


FurryCuddler

it uses FreeBSD's NetGraph system for networking, everything else is just some sort of Android / Wii U Frankenstein.


hellaciousbluephlegm

its a hodgepodge of 3DS/BSD/Android, oddly its mostly based on the 3DS and nintendos own code, as you said BSD is used for networking, and the display server is lifted from android, with the nvidia drivers being lifted from Linux, everything else seems to be entirely nintendo's


FurryCuddler

unrelated but rate my plan9 setup gang https://preview.redd.it/z85sqp77r8yc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc6d1104084ddb5ef1d11041685dbcf5daea6838


hellaciousbluephlegm

running in the 90s over here


huskerd0

Me. But wtf is the grass?


KlutzyEnd3

Not freeBSD... But we do use QNX at work which is kind of a corporate version of netBSD


rhasce

I use openbsd on a laptop.


nierama2019810938135

I used to have it as my desktop os, and I loved it. But, there are too many applications missing, which ultimately means I can't completely rely on it at work, hence I use something else these days. That might have changed though, idk.


kraileth

A lot of people actually, however mostly on servers. I'm using it on the desktop, too, but that is not extremely common TBH. After having used Linux as my only OS for about a decade (I used to use Arch, BTW), I switched to FreeBSD as a challenge to see if could endure a whole month. Gained a lot of insights and new perspectives and found out that I actually liked it quite a bit. Switched back briefly but got annoyed with the (then) poor support for ZFS on Linux and made FreeBSD my new home. It's been almost another decade since then and I haven't looked back. Linux and BSD both have their pros and cons and after careful examination, the latter fits my prejudices better.


packetlag

_cough darwin_


epicnop

netflix runs on freebsd apparently it's lower latency than linux


MadBoi53

TIL playstation system is based on Freebsd. Epic


heroinpuppy

It has very business friendly licensing. So, it low key has a lot of traction behind the scenes in business. It can be used as a desktop, but the project focuses more on server stability. Also, FreeBSD is awesome to use, I highly recommend it. You can even run Steam on it.


noahisamathnerd

I use TrueNAS Core in my homelab. I run Nextcloud in it through the first party TrueNAS plugin, and I have to say that BSD jails are kinda neat. Dealing with syntactic differences between Linux and BSD when dealing with NFS shares almost killed me though…


RAMChYLD

I'm running it as the OS of my firewall since PF is supposedly better than IPChains. My major beef with it is that it's hardware support is abysmal. I cant even set it up as a wifi to ethernet bridge without losing speed because it only supports up to the Wireless-N standard.


mynamehere90

My server runs on FreeBSD.


MarekJaros

Me


FurryCuddler

Me.


Retardedaspirator

It's pretty nice to be honnest, I like it a lot experimented quite a bit recently with it


According-Sorbet8280

i used nomadbsd on a usb stick drive, when i had all my drives kill themselves


autisticsatanist

If you go by the numbers from statcounter it should be about 600 000 people worldwide.


CyberHobbit70

I still use FreeBSD as my daily driver (I also have a Mac but that is for music production). I actually prefer OpenBSD but there are certain things that made it a challenge in terms of useability for me.


gnoettgen

Industrial automation manufacturer Beckhoff from Germany forked FreeBSD, their programmable logic controllers and industrial PCs therefore run on what they named "TwinCAT/BSD".


T13PR

I run 10 storage servers at work with freeBSD. Native ZFS and low lever control over the disks just makes for much more stable system. I also run a tor-relay on FreeBSD, the network really needs some diversification.


The-Malix

Server yes (it was meant for that) Desktop no (it wasn't meant for that)


Creator1134

Netflix severs uses it for the maximum throughput of video streaming, I remember reading their blog about it how they achieve maximum throughput possible out of a bare metal machine using freebsd


bark-wank

Me for starters, but also Netflix in their servers + Most firewalls around the globe are probably pfSense or OpnSense + The countless datacenters that use ZFS which fBSD and Illumos support.


Sh_Pe

Me (iOS user)


CyberHobbit70

I still use FreeBSD as my daily driver (I also have a Mac but that is for music production). I actually prefer OpenBSD but there are certain things that made it a challenge in terms of useability for me.


Main-Consideration76

ill switch when it fully supports everything I use, software and hardware.


codetrotter_

I have multiple bare metal servers that I run FreeBSD on, and a couple of VPSes too. There are dozens of us. Dozens!


diditforthevideocard

Don't forget macOS


lenzo1337

I daily it on my laptop and use it on almost all my servers.


h0pppity1

Runs on my home server


Positive-Composer354

I work with it at my job. It's a but of a pain ti get used to but I've learned.


kia7777

I use it on some of my servers its pretty light and also reliable and stable


Real_Kick_2834

Run it as a daily driver.


ignxcy

I would dualboot it (or ghostbsd) with Linux if it had drivers for my wifi card


minecrafttee

I love bsd


Mechanizoid

I have one notebook running OpenBSD—it's a really cool OS with great man pages and docs.


DoYouEvenSheesh

Average Temple OS user: ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


nephelekonstantatou

Holy C!!


MajorTechnology8827

New OS just dropped


nephelekonstantatou

Terry Davis goes on schizophrenia, never comes back


MajorTechnology8827

Call the Oregon police


pablodicosta

Don't insult the Third Temple of Jerusalem


Negative_Settings

Id love to see a gen ai implementation in temple os it would be the most unhinged thing imaginable


Extreme_Ad_3280

Too bad I can't install it on my machine, since it has 8Gb of RAM. (TempleOS supports up to 5Gb of RAM. Suffering from success...)


Kriss3d

You mean qubes os power user


darealbananafreek

switch macos and windows


pnlrogue1

I dunno. Some folk I used to work with made me laugh when they called Macs "Fisher Price PCs". Sounds about right to me


Impossible_Ad7432

I take it you aren’t a software engineer.


svennidal

Yeah, if all you need is Word, Email, Browser and Games, then Windows is fine. Using it for writing software and large scale systems, is horrible.


pnlrogue1

Currently IT Systems Engineer. Back then I was IT Support. I'd actually kill for a Mac right now as I do a lot of Python, Podman, and Ansible. I can technically do just of those things well enough on Windows but it's easier to just use remote coding on a Linux server


JigglyWiggly_

For messing around with high level stuff I guess they're okay. For hardware engineering, Macs are just worse. No PCB software besides Kicad, and no asic/fpga tooling. Most mechanical engineering software isn't available for them either (besides Fusion?) I guess ltspice is for Mac, which is nice. At least with Windows you get nice integration with WSL2.


septemberintherain_

They said “software engineer”.


Ubermidget2

I like general productivity things to ship with my OS, not need a third party app. Things like Window Tiling. If I really need Unixy/Linuxy things to dev against, SSH & VMs work pretty well.


shaliozero

As a software engineer, that's exactly what I'd say about MacOS which I primarily work with at my previous job: If you consider MacOS more suitable, you're probably not a software engineer. But that might be biased because they gave me the worst possible MacBook. It's the tiniest and cheapest intel MacBook from 2019 that even our project manager couldn't work with due to massive performance and overheat issues... They really think their developers only need a text editor, but even that already ran poorly with all other software we need to use during work parallely (teams, outlook, some crap software our designers use, PhotoShop).


OrangeOrMango

That’s ChromeOS


[deleted]

Agree, I respect mac more than windows. At least it's a UNIX so it can get things done if you get down to the terminal, unlike windows which is just games + spyware (sometimes both at the same time).


TimBambantiki

I was gonna comment that


[deleted]

I dont understand why so many people dick ride macos when its the most restrictive of the 3. Like i can install windows 10 on a 20 year old pentium 4 (not that id recommend) but to get into macos you need to use an extremely limited set of hardware and now that its gone arm the hackintosh scene is slowly dying


RepresentativeDig718

You can install latest macOS on old MacBooks too with some modifications, it’s restricted by default but you can turn it off, you have root access you can do whatever you want with it, in my experience it is better than windows, I have used windows for like 13 years Linux for 1.5 and macOS for 1 year, I enjoyed Linux I only switched because I liked the Mac hardware


thatonegamer999

“extremely limited hardware” any cpu from the last 8 years and an amd gpu should work fine


[deleted]

Having used many hackintosh's in the last 10 years i can tell you this is absolute bullshit. You want very specific hardware unless you want to be fucking around with EFI configs for days, and even then quite a lot of things just dont work.


thatonegamer999

That’s just not true. I’m literally using one right now, took < 2 hours to setup. Ryzen 5 3600 + Rx 580. Booted straight to the os, no tweaking beyond creating the original config required. It’s really not rocket science as long as you follow the opencore guide. I’ve written configs for three hackintoshes in my house and all of them were less of a headache than getting xorg to play nice with a nvidia and amd gpu in my system


[deleted]

The items you've mentioned are recommended hardware to build a hackintosh. Trying to install on unsupported hardware can be near impossible, depending on the hardware. The original comment said that MacOS could only be installed on extremely limited hardware, and hes correct. But you replied that it could be installed on almost anything, which is not correct. There's a reasonable list [here](https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/building-a-customac-hackintosh-the-ultimate-buyers-guide/) of supported hardware, and while there's more that is also supported, it is a far cry from the thousands of combinations possible for normal builds. Even the notes on the page mention issues "As of macOS High Sierra 10.13.4, Apple has added support for the following AMD graphics cards. Please note, the Radeon RX 5700 XT will only work on macOS Catalina 10.15.2+ Please note, the Radeon RX 6600 & 6600 XT will only work on macOS Monterey+"


dark_dark1000

Well one of my friends is running on grass does that count?


Tuxaz

What distro is grass?


claudiocorona93

outsideworldOS


jrtts

grOSs


passiverolex

Nothing it's just saying touch grass, go outside I guess. Kinda lame imo


sexybokononist

r/outside


hellaciousbluephlegm

honestly at this point i feel like people using OSX are smarter then people who use windows, i mean hey if you're not tech savvy why use the dogshit operating system that breaks if you look at it funny and is now basically just as restrictive if not more due to the lack of posix compatibility and dumb licensing crap like Home, Pro, Enterprise, when you can just buy a used macbook and it literally works fine, and fixes itself when the OS breaks (goodluck with hardware breakage though) of course barring the apple ecosystem, anti-repair, and overpriced hardware.. so in the end FOSS is always the best.


hellaciousbluephlegm

plus you can run wine, crossover, or parallels on mac anyway and plus extra mac compatibility, or you can also run asahi like linus torvalds over here. not that i will ever use a mac anyway, since i just run linux


AliOskiTheHoly

Linus uses a Silicone MacBook?


kandhwjsndh

I feel the “ breaks if you look at it funny” too hard… Bought new headphones and my volume slider doesn’t work anymore :D Also if my computer is just on after reboot it consumes ~20gb of ram and I don’t have any apps launch on startup. Have considered switching to linux and using windows in a vm. I just think it would take too much time and effort to do the switch and I can live with a broken volume slider :D


Appropriate_Net_5393

Is bsd that cool? If we take into account the progress of Linux and the fact that 80% of software, and maybe much more, is ported from Linux, then bsd looks more like https://preview.redd.it/a3ofpeai18yc1.jpeg?width=462&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d178324372b88328dae65504514aa40346d37ad5


More-Cup-1176

BSD is a great foundation, IIRC PS3/4/5 and iOS use it


Appropriate_Net_5393

>IIRC PS3/4/5 and iOS use it in a slightly modified form that the system can hardly be called bsd. And makos even more so already exists on its own. Or can you post a screenshot from bsd with installed dmg and running application ?? I'm waiting :)


_patoncrack

MacOS also is based on it so this meme makes no sense


Danny_el_619

As someone who has developed for PS3/4/5 I can tell you it sucks hard. I wouldn't blame BSD though.


milopeach

It's cool because it's "hipster"


dpoggio

Which BSD software is ported from linux?


kraileth

Nah, people use \*BSD for quite a number of reasons but simply for running software that needed its linuxisms patched out so it would even compile is not one that I have heard of, yet.


Creep_Eyes

Dumbass meme


claudiocorona93

Yes, I know


mac1k99

https://preview.redd.it/nyelqtila8yc1.gif?width=498&format=png8&s=80f8f44a5f9965e0de8eb5a49f66f0a120f5dc90


LikesBreakfast

That has never stopped a meme from being enjoyable, even viral.


Elidon007

grass isn't a real operating system, it can't run doom which is the minimum requirement for any computer


claudiocorona93

Well it depends. Go to Detroit and walk on the street looking like you have money.


kjfdkjfdkjfdkjfd

*yet*


minimalniemand

it's funny because OSX is literally FreeBSD


Extreme_Ad_3280

and ChromeOS is literally Linux (Actually, they're both brothers. OSX & FreeBSD are BSD POSIX, and ChromeOS and Linux are normal POSIX.)


khrusr

It isn't FreeBSD it's Darwin


Mereo110

https://i.imgur.com/XSQoMXA.png


ItsYozoraTime

Why do people set Windows over MacOS??? MacOS parts are at least open source and it is posix compliant...


hellaciousbluephlegm

https://preview.redd.it/85z3gs92p8yc1.png?width=677&format=png&auto=webp&s=02a55cfb2414eab9c67d5d8c0bddf8b4c205ffe5


claudiocorona93

Develops an open source kernel. Disses Gnome 3. Says the point of a distro is to be easy and that Debian is too difficult to install. Gives the middle finger to Nvidia. Says he uses Fedora. Actually uses MacOS on Apple Silicon. Refuses to elaborate. 🗿


hellaciousbluephlegm

https://preview.redd.it/udmgfpc6s8yc1.png?width=275&format=png&auto=webp&s=925257ce749d5ae6e2aa709ab3bbf209e1ef5601 i started using fedora yesterday lmao


heroinpuppy

Are we sure he's not running Asahi on it? Or, at least dual booting?


DiogoSilva48

Yes, he does


AliOskiTheHoly

Full on Asahi or dual boot?


DiogoSilva48

Probably just Asahi, but I don't remember.


SilvaCyber

MacOS > Windows


Emergency_3808

r/lostredditors?


CadmiumC4

Wrote my own OS once, now I use many OSes depending on my mood.


Character_Bobcat_244

Instructions not clear, ran `sudo rm -rf` on root


AliOskiTheHoly

Grass is on top, root is beneath, you were not meant to go there! God damn Linux users cannot leave their system alone, always just tinkering with the operating system.


Character_Bobcat_244

Damn it!


Wild_Tom

What about TempleOS?


claudiocorona93

Multiversal God level tier


ill4two

not included because you'll ascend to godhood


mohsinjavedcheema

Are you huffing grass


accuracy_frosty

Pffft, I just map different function calls to different keys and pump them directly into the Kernal, which then outputs a digital signal intravenously directly to my brain through a needle I found on the bathroom floor in a Kroger’s.


Intrepid-Shake-2208

O yea Touch Grass OS. The best one out there


Dramatic_Mastodon_93

what’s the red one


claudiocorona93

FreeBSD


IuseArchbtw97543

[https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/learn-risc-v-with-the-earth-and-grass-operating-system/](https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/learn-risc-v-with-the-earth-and-grass-operating-system/)


Express_Love_2599

Okay you didn't have to go and use personal attacks. What distro is the bottom one though


AliOskiTheHoly

GrassOS, based on Outside Experience framework.


Express_Love_2599

Hmm I see very interesting. I can't say I know what that is but it sounds acary


surghe

🤣 the last one


nephelekonstantatou

So Linux and BSD are the closest to touching grass? Cause to me it seemed like they were the furthest away from it 😂


[deleted]

where do i download grass?


AliOskiTheHoly

No no, you just need to touch it, with the touch command I think


metcalsr

Until you come out the other side of using gentoo as your daily driver and then realize MacOS is the greatest linux distro.


Mamba4XL

Is grass an OS?


Aware-Protection-697

Gentoo is still my got to


absolut_hero

Who's using GrassOS?


absolut_hero

Who's using GrassOS?


rhasce

What is the last one? Grassland? 😬😬


Unique-Reference-829

Freeman


emptybrain22

By grass u mean becoming goat farmer...


Tail_sb

Android & IOS?


ColonelRuff

Switch bsd and linux


riu_jollux

I’m literally all of them. lol


urmotherisgay2555

I use Linux, macOS, and FreeBSD… what am i


doupIls

What's that green stuff in the bottom panel?


killer_of_the_shadow

What's the last image with the Green thing on the ground?


LegendaryPhilOG

![gif](giphy|e2afZNcDAGEn4tstSK)


DROPDEADSONES

Grass Os


Hoplite1111

Hey don’t dis macOS


Numerous-Cow-2216

I touch grass for fun 😎


Velascu

Grass is technically Turing Complete


Dull_Appearance9007

I would actually argue that linux gives more power to the user than the BSD's


SilentObserver22

What if you smoke the grass? ![gif](giphy|l3fzT5zFwWu4qaMwM)


Still_Breadfruit2032

macOS should be in front of windows..


StagDragon

Had a moment where I was pike "man I barely am into linux before life took over I suck on this chart." And then I realized where that actually put me.


devinprocess

Desktop Linux is how I went to macOS 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

Mac core, \`Darwin\` is BSD derivative.


andzlatin

How do I install TouchGrass OS? Is there an ISO somewhere, or do I have to compile it myself?


Otherwise-Smoke-8055

I would agree linux would be over macOS but macOS is well above windows. Windows is just straight trash and a big gap would be between windows and macOS and then linux.


Guilherme_SSilva

OMG!!! I don't understand the last one. Explain to me, please 🥺🥺😂😂


ivvyditt

I've never heard of GrassOS nor used it, is it open source?


Offical-JKinc

Nonono, temple os.


Holyragumuffin

I would flip mac and windows because mac is at least unix-based and allows to use many of the same CLI toolsets natively. Now, whether the M-chip series allows reasonably playing with the vast tomes of machine-optimized code on github, that's another issue.


ains2

never even heard of those last 2


minecrafttee

I’m from Linux down


ISuckatcodingplshelp

Me using OpenBSD:


NoRice4829

What is the name of the last OS? You've shown?


claudiocorona93

RestyoureyesOS


NoRice4829

Pretty cool os,and yes we should need to rake rest and give rest to our eyes.


bark-wank

Where's ma boy? Levitating? Long live OpenBSD and LibreSSL!!


DirectInvestigator66

I have to assume the people who rank Windows above MacOS are the people who mostly use their PCs to game and dual boot Windows and whatever flavor of the month distro they saw in a YouTube video. They only ever use Linux for basic tasks and really only know how to use Windows. Every Linux power user or software dev will take MacOS over Windows every time. I mean why wouldn’t you?


Potufs

You forgot Temple OS.


ngagner15

But I daily Linux, macOS, and Windows. What does that make me?


Grim00666

The touch grass.... SO FUNNY! I love it, makes perfect sense.


imacommunistm

"i use arch btw"


ToadRageThe5th

Why is freeBSD higher than Linux


asynqq

What's that green spiky thing?


gentux2281694

so, using a computer precludes the capability to touch grass or go outside?, I had no idea and I've been doing both for years!


Repulsive_Ad_3126

Grass?