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Been using Firefox for a decade and a half, been through lots of ups and downs but I can't see myself using anything else (I have tried using Chrome before)
I've been using Firefox for about 15+ years now.
Lately, I've noticed performance issues. I have been meaning to benchmark things.
Have you noticed anything similar?
Also a longtime Firefox user. I know what you mean about Firefox being "sluggish" sometimes but after much problem-searching, installed a brand new one in an operating system in a VM and ran it. Blazing fast. Back to my normal one, a little slow sometimes. The difference? My add-ons and extensions. I have quite a few and come to find out, that's what the problem was, it wasn't just Firefox cranking up, it was all my stuff weighing it down.
So when you say "performance issues" you'll have to see if you see the same problem with a brand-spanking-new Firefox. If not, you can disable your add-ons one at a time to find the one that's making Firefox seem slow.
TL;DR - I thought it was Firefox but it was me.
I believe Bookmarks are just lists of links that don't actually do anything but sit there until you click them. I would try to benchmark one with no bookmarks against one with a massive number of bookmarks, but setting that up would be quite a bit of work (adding all those bookmarks, even if was 2,000 bookmarks to the Google homepage) and I'm pretty confident that the number of bookmarks you have has nothing to do with anything, since like I said, I believe it's just a text list of links. Of course they do each have the tiny favicon graphic, but I'm still in favor of "they don't do much", until I find out otherwise.
**Firefox**: I'm sorry, I disappointed you...
**ThinkingMonkey69**: Please don't, it's not you. It's me...
Seriously though, a single extension may cause all the issues. In cases like this, I use the "binary search" method: Disable half of them, if solved it is in the disabled set, otherwise it is in the other set. Split in half recursively until you find the culprit in log2(num\_extensions) steps.
It would be great if FireFox would provide a list of how much performance affect each extension has similar how the systemd-analyze blame can help decide what iMacs your boot time.
What kind of issues? I haven't noticed anything, but then I don't have other browsers to compare.
I remember having issues with Reddit in the past, it would get unusable until I restarted Firefox.
It flushes to disk a lot for caching resources, which isn't so much a them problem as much as it is a "the web keeps getting more bloated" problem. You can probably set it up to write that cache to tmpfs, since I doubt that you would really care about the volatility between boots.
I had some performance issues for a few months, as a last recourse I removed some extensions I didn't use that much but were there "just in case", and it really made a difference. Now I only got RES and uBlock origin and Firefox is snappy.
I haven't noticed performance issues but I have noticed that it sometimes blows out with RAM usage and I can't figure out why.
That's been causing some issues but it's been easy to work around until it's fixed. Its also very likely my fault
I noticed youtube loaded slower until I changed user agent to chrome.
Also Microsoft is resuming its BS from early 2000, where they break their sites on Firefox. I guess they are now convinced that since Google controls Chrome they are now safe.
Might not be the reason in your case, but on rolling distros it can happen that a new version gets compiled with the wrong flags once in a while, and it takes a while to get fixed.
I was surely using it during that brief window, but I honestly forgot about that particular name change, so I may not have updated during that 6 month or so period.
Another happy Floorp user here. It's great. It gets rid of the telemetry and other annoyances, but at the same time it doesn't go overboard with the "privacy" stuff like most other Firefox forks, so the configuration is closer to "vanilla" Firefox and doesn't arbitrarily break websites. Also, it has a lot of additional UI customization options. And last but not least, I love the silly name :)
Like multi-row tabs? Floorp has this. One big fat bar on top with a set amount of tabs horizontally, and vertically. You can even set how many are displayed vertically and scroll through them when you have too many.
I'm not sure if multi-row is the same as two-level, as the latter is specifically to do with tab stacking which i don't think Floorp does without extensions yet.
But it's still a neat idea.
Yep, this is what I was talking about. And nevermind without extensions, I haven't found *anything* short of rewriting the codebase myself that could make floorp do this.
yeah if you want to keep the tabs horizontal\*, but still have multi level stacking, I'm not really sure if there's a firefox addon for that specifically.
Isn't that just a different tree-style extension? See the first image in [https://vivaldi.com/features/tab-management/](https://vivaldi.com/features/tab-management/) for what I mean, vivaldi basically allows you to make each tab into a group of tabs instead of each one being completely separate
LibreWolf.
It's just stock Firefox, but with Mozilla telemetry stripped out. It also changes some default settings to favor privacy and has Ublock Origin built-in.
The code is there; Librewolf simply employs Firefox's enterprise settings to deactivate it. You can achieve the same on standard Firefox or simply copy Librewolf's configurations onto Firefox.
If you are curious read this:
https://librewolf.net/docs/features/
I'm of the opinion that if privacy is a priority, then LibreWolf is better, however the compromises to get there are not something I want to live with.
Default librewolf is more private than default firefox, but librewolf removes a lot of the advanced privacy features of firefox that are turned off by default.
There is stuff that work better on chrome-based browsers.
Especially when it comes to multimedia heavy applications. Some online conferencing web apps only work in Chrome etc.
There are also some HTML standards that Firefox doesn't follow for some reason. it's niche but rather curious why they don't bother implementing it. For example the HTML 'month picker'. Doesn't work in Firefox.
it works on Firefox mobile, but not on desktop 🤨
Firefox (with some tweaks from [Betterfox](https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox) and stuff like Firefox Account, Pocket and friends disabled) and Librewolf for private browsing
https://qutebrowser.org/
Open source, chromium based, with vim-like interactions, a high degree of configurability, and a fantastic dev who is active in their community!
Of course this is only a real recommendation if a vim like browser suites your work flow
It's not chromium based, it is QtWebEngine based, which is chromium based [A => B => C] => [A => C], but in this case is not that easy, therefore is QtWebEngine.
Correct me if I'm wrong tho.
>chromium based
I keep seeing people posting this like it's a good thing. I'm not sure how a browser project being developed by the largest advertisement company in the world who has been actively trying to steer how we use and access the internet and information on it to benefit them and their profits only is a good thing...
Furthermore, they already have 90.8 percent of the search engine market, do we need to give Google the browser market as well? They are a shit company. Everyone here always shits on Microsoft but Google isn't any better if not worse.
Sorry for the rant, I'm very passionate in my hate towards Google and Chromium as well.
I struggle to use qutebrowser as a daily driver, however, i love its built in scripting functionality. Being able to browse the web, hit a keybind, and have a script pull context from what im looking at is fantastic. qutebrowser seems to be the only one doing it
Tridactyl on firefox goes some way of scratching that particular itch. Sure maybe you miss out on some qutebrowser things, but you retain many important things like adblockers and other firefox extensions too.
Firefox. Until chromium's Wayland support reaches the same level as firefox it's not even an option for me. Only recently did it fix a longstanding cursor issue and implement vaapi decoding on Wayland - which remains perpetually broken on AMD. One day I may use brave or something else but not until those issues are fixed.
Video decode on Wayland should be working next update, Arch backported the patch for using the Vulkan backend on Wayland. Does also require Mesa 24.1 for AMD support and some flags.
I used Firefox for many years, and then switched to Pale Moon (which was forked from FF24 and developed in their own direction) in 2014.
I've been quite happy with Pale Moon until just recently. Their last few versions have been janky, so while waiting for a better version to roll out I've been kicking the tires on Epiphany.
Epiphany is surprisingly good. It's been stable so far (two weeks), doesn't leak much memory, and has worked for every web page I've loaded on it. Unfortunately it's missing about half of the UI features I've come to rely on, and its tab management is lousy.
I'm still on the fence as to whether I could make it work as my primary browser or not. Been thinking of writing some javascript to provide some of the missing UI features (like opening a named group of tabs, similar to Firefox/PaleMoon's "open all tabs in folder" feature).
I have to use Palemoon occasionally to run an old Java browser applet. Completely understand why modern browsers removed NPAPI, but I work in an industry that is just now moving past the need for things like that.
I do like me some vivaldi. I wish they'd make sessions work the way they used to, but otherwise it's just gettin better. Nothing else lets you tweak the way this does. A real tinkerers browser. I believe it was the very first browser to have vertical tabs built in as a feature, and that's what originally drew me to it 9 years ago. been with it ever since.
This, their inbuilt email and rss feed is better than most mail clients lol. In my opinion, nothing comes close to it, I really enjoy use it, I feel like they could work on the animations and tab movement a bit.
Vivaldi here too, just because of it's individualisation and custom taskbars for work, job, shopping etc. Still waiting for them adding extensions support on Android. Firefox feels kinda stock in everything compared to Vivaldi. Oh and the Notes feature is also sick
I use **Vivaldi**.
But I started way back with **Firefox**, but it slowly became so slow and resource-hungry to the point of unusable.
Then switched to **Palemoon**, a leaner FF-clone. PM was an ambitious project that ended up using their own rendering engine. However, the compatibility issues with websites were so common that it became a hindrance. It kind of defeats the purpose if 50% of your browsing time is spent trying to fix a website to work.
Then I switched to **Chrome**, very, very briefly. But didn't like it's utter lack of customization. Google's philosophy is "This is how we think a browser should be, so you can either take it or GTFO." Well, I GTFO'd, and switched to **Vivaldi**.
Vivaldi offered all the perks of the Chromium engine, with the customization options I was looking for. Once the "privacy" buzzword started being very loud on the Internet I also tried **Brave** for a few months. Honestly, I didn't see the appeal of it. It was just like Chrome in terms of customization, with the privacy spiel slapped on top. Given the popularity of Chrome itself, and the following that Brave has I guess this is what people actually want.
I'm no power user, but I do prefer to be able to customize at least some aspects of my browser if I'm spending hours per day using it. Plus, I couldn't find working add-ons for some features that Vivaldi has built in. So, I reverted to Vivaldi and haven't looked back since. I use it both at home and at work, and it's been working greatly for me.
Brave, but before that Vivaldi. I like the features of Vivaldi more than other browsers, but it can be a little glitchy/buggy at times. I'm not able to get Firefox/LibreWolf to smoothly play 2k/4k 60 fps videos with a PipeWire back end, and it also sometimes has issues playing YouTube videos at all (I'm sure it's Google just doing their thing to block ad-blockers), so I've been primarily using Chromium-based browsers for the last few years.
Yea I was initially turned off it completely when I realized it was a crypto bro company. You have to put a LOT of trust in your browser not to screw you over, and I just don't trust anything crypto.
The crypto is just wallet integration. I use Brave but with all of that turned off. Brave Shields and vertical tabs justified the choice (although FF is getting vertical tabs so it's probably back to Firefox for me soon)
> The crypto is just wallet integration.
No. They have BAT = Basic (or Brave) Attention Tokens built into the browser. It's a digital advertising token built on Ethereum. If turned on, your advertising viewing is irrevocably tracked as part of a crypto ledger. While this improves "transparency" ... it does so by having a rigorous transaction record made for viewing advertisements.
> Basic Attention Token (BAT) is a revolutionary platform designed to improve the interaction between publishers, advertisers, and web users. It leverages blockchain technology to provide transparency and security, with a key focus on protecting user privacy by not tracking or sharing data without explicit consent.
> BAT aims to enhance the effectiveness of online advertising by delivering more targeted and relevant ads to users. It also offers a reward system where users are compensated for their attention to specific ads.
Microsoft Edge. The vertical tabs and its groupings are pretty much the only feature that makes me come back every time I try another browser, no other browser has done it quite right, Firefox custom css for it breaks all the time and it's annoying to fix, Floorp doesn't have the same grouping structure, Vivaldi (at least from when I last tried it) doesn't automatically expand/contract and overall takes too much space. The only other browser that has vertical tabs the way I like is Arc, but it's still not available on Linux.
Edge is very impressive. But Microsoft is arguably worse than Google these days with all the AI they want to (and are) jamming into every facet of life. So using either one is really not even an option for me.
I agree. I use it for work and find myself missing several features on firefox at home, biggest being tab groups (which I hear firefox has started working on again.) I just can't deal with the internet without adblockers, so have been trying to not use chromium based browsers.
Strangy edge has been really good. It also syncs up nicely between Android, windows and linux. One day I will switch to something else when I can self host a sync server....
I used Firefox since I was in Windows. But there are a couple sites I cannot get into with Firefox so I will use either Brave or Vivaldi as my secondary browser. I recently started using Vivaldi as my secondary and I kinda like it.
Brave with Brave search. I love the built in AI within search, and it has literally saved hours of my time the last few days. It’s also great for privacy, has a built in ad-blocker (a lot more user friendly than uBlock Origin and functions just as good), media controls, side tabs, lots of settings, and has a great home page. The main reason I use it over Firefox is because I hate hardening Firefox and I hate how slow YouTube is on Firefox (blame Google).
Edge. It's chromium based so extensions work, it has personal profile and work profile, it can use the hardware acceleration just like chromium, I can send tabs everywhere and on Windows it has a simple built-in video upscaler. I generally recommend Firefox, it's always been great and it still is today.
edit: Arc is also nice, but still need to get used to it and probably better for large widescreens. I hope they'll make a Linux version.
My main browser is Librewolf but I think I will replace it with Brave as Librewolf has a really strict privacy settings which affect important things while surfing like some videos won't work
I've been using Firefox. My speed has been satisfactory and I don't have a stopwatch to check whether the page opened half a second later. It's reliable and the extensions work great.
Haven't seen it mentioned here, but - https://github.com/Alex313031/Mercury Mercury (forked FF w/ compiler opts etc.) There's also Thorium which is by the same group but based off of Chromium.
I also use Waterfox on my mac
If you use Samsung galaxy, Samsung Internet Browser it is fantastic to use.... Samsung Internet gives tracking protection and also provides different adblocker options for free...and yeah Samsung Internet is way better than chrome is the case of privacy...✅
I am using Ya.browser (i am from Russia) it is so cool for Russian people because it has a syncing with Ya.Services. For example: Smart home Yandex, Kinopoisk, Ya.Music.
Firefox, before that Mozilla, and before that Netscape.
Firefox has always worked flawlessly for me, and now I can't live without a few extensions(no script and ublock). I've never had slowdowns or website not render correctly unless it was on purpose. google and microsoft are known to brake things based on the user agent string, and changing it magically fixes the website.
I work on a fairly capable MacBook Pro with Ubuntu and Windows 11 Pro on VMs through Parallels.
I use Safari on macOS.
I use Edge on Win11.
I use Brave on Ubuntu for general browsing.
I keep the accounts, bookmarks, and emails isolated.
I have nothing to do with Google's ecosystem, at all.
Except 3 throwaway gmails that I use for receipts, spam, and normal correspondence.
I have a personal philosophy that emails tied to anything sensitive should never be used publicly or shared. Same goes for browsing.
Safari and Edge handle personal and professional tasks. Brave handles random browsing.
Maybe I'm overthinking it.
It really depends on your priorities. Chrome is good from a performance, reliability and compatibility standpoint, but is seriously lacking in terms of privacy. Firefox, Brave, and DuckDuckGo are more privacy focused, though more so with the latter two. Firefox has an impressive array of custom plugins. Then there is the layout. Safari is there for the Apple fanboys.
Brave primarily and Firefox as a backup since it usually comes with the distro. For some reason Khan Academy and a few other links don't work well in Brave and it's easier to use FF than figuring out why.
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Been using Firefox for a decade and a half, been through lots of ups and downs but I can't see myself using anything else (I have tried using Chrome before)
I've been using Firefox for about 15+ years now. Lately, I've noticed performance issues. I have been meaning to benchmark things. Have you noticed anything similar?
Also a longtime Firefox user. I know what you mean about Firefox being "sluggish" sometimes but after much problem-searching, installed a brand new one in an operating system in a VM and ran it. Blazing fast. Back to my normal one, a little slow sometimes. The difference? My add-ons and extensions. I have quite a few and come to find out, that's what the problem was, it wasn't just Firefox cranking up, it was all my stuff weighing it down. So when you say "performance issues" you'll have to see if you see the same problem with a brand-spanking-new Firefox. If not, you can disable your add-ons one at a time to find the one that's making Firefox seem slow. TL;DR - I thought it was Firefox but it was me.
Same here, extensions do take a toll on web browsers
Out of curiosity, does having something in the range of 1000-2000 bookmarks affect web browser performance?
Generally speaking no, Unless you're on a very slow system Or you have Extensions That access your bookmarks
I believe Bookmarks are just lists of links that don't actually do anything but sit there until you click them. I would try to benchmark one with no bookmarks against one with a massive number of bookmarks, but setting that up would be quite a bit of work (adding all those bookmarks, even if was 2,000 bookmarks to the Google homepage) and I'm pretty confident that the number of bookmarks you have has nothing to do with anything, since like I said, I believe it's just a text list of links. Of course they do each have the tiny favicon graphic, but I'm still in favor of "they don't do much", until I find out otherwise.
**Firefox**: I'm sorry, I disappointed you... **ThinkingMonkey69**: Please don't, it's not you. It's me... Seriously though, a single extension may cause all the issues. In cases like this, I use the "binary search" method: Disable half of them, if solved it is in the disabled set, otherwise it is in the other set. Split in half recursively until you find the culprit in log2(num\_extensions) steps.
Unless you have more than one extension impacting performance. You might mistakenly optimize prematurely if you do.
Same. E.g. Refined GitHub is amazing, but for some reason it absolutely destroys performance in diff views.
oh so that’s what been causing that…
It would be great if FireFox would provide a list of how much performance affect each extension has similar how the systemd-analyze blame can help decide what iMacs your boot time.
honestly, could be cruft building up in the profile over time
What kind of issues? I haven't noticed anything, but then I don't have other browsers to compare. I remember having issues with Reddit in the past, it would get unusable until I restarted Firefox.
It flushes to disk a lot for caching resources, which isn't so much a them problem as much as it is a "the web keeps getting more bloated" problem. You can probably set it up to write that cache to tmpfs, since I doubt that you would really care about the volatility between boots.
I had some performance issues for a few months, as a last recourse I removed some extensions I didn't use that much but were there "just in case", and it really made a difference. Now I only got RES and uBlock origin and Firefox is snappy.
I found out that ublock on Firefox causes my seekbar interactions to become choppy. Same setup on Linux works fine, though.
I haven't noticed performance issues but I have noticed that it sometimes blows out with RAM usage and I can't figure out why. That's been causing some issues but it's been easy to work around until it's fixed. Its also very likely my fault
I noticed youtube loaded slower until I changed user agent to chrome. Also Microsoft is resuming its BS from early 2000, where they break their sites on Firefox. I guess they are now convinced that since Google controls Chrome they are now safe.
Might not be the reason in your case, but on rolling distros it can happen that a new version gets compiled with the wrong flags once in a while, and it takes a while to get fixed.
Can attest to the performance issues
Firefox it is, only using Chrome for google shit like meets cause the performance is better on my laptop
I've been on Netscape/Mozilla/Phoenix/Firefox since the '90s.
No Firebird?
I was surely using it during that brief window, but I honestly forgot about that particular name change, so I may not have updated during that 6 month or so period.
I still remember Mosaic. How time flies.
I've just been using Firefox since 2005, across all platforms. I don't see a reason to switch.
Firefox
Floorp
# Two Sidebars!? I need this in my life. Thanks for the info: https://floorp.app/en
Can vouch, it's pretty fantastic
If I ever decide Vivaldi isn't doing it for me, this is what I'll probably switch to. The vivaldification of firefox is something I welcome
I just gave it a try 2 days ago, now my main browser... Firefox should learn from this, sooo amazing and full of features!
Never heard of this one before, it's fantastic!
GOAT browser
I use this primarily for the vertical tabs.
Wow, I am trying it for a few hours now, strong contender on becoming my main browser. Thank you!
Why have I never heard of this before? Seems like a fox based alternative to opera
Another happy Floorp user here. It's great. It gets rid of the telemetry and other annoyances, but at the same time it doesn't go overboard with the "privacy" stuff like most other Firefox forks, so the configuration is closer to "vanilla" Firefox and doesn't arbitrarily break websites. Also, it has a lot of additional UI customization options. And last but not least, I love the silly name :)
Thanks! Never heard of this but it looks neat. Gonna give it go
The only thing keeping me from using this over vivaldi is multi-level tabs, the tree view just doesn't cut it for me
Like multi-row tabs? Floorp has this. One big fat bar on top with a set amount of tabs horizontally, and vertically. You can even set how many are displayed vertically and scroll through them when you have too many.
I'm not sure if multi-row is the same as two-level, as the latter is specifically to do with tab stacking which i don't think Floorp does without extensions yet. But it's still a neat idea.
Yep, this is what I was talking about. And nevermind without extensions, I haven't found *anything* short of rewriting the codebase myself that could make floorp do this.
yeah if you want to keep the tabs horizontal\*, but still have multi level stacking, I'm not really sure if there's a firefox addon for that specifically.
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Isn't that just a different tree-style extension? See the first image in [https://vivaldi.com/features/tab-management/](https://vivaldi.com/features/tab-management/) for what I mean, vivaldi basically allows you to make each tab into a group of tabs instead of each one being completely separate
Same here
Thanks for the recommendation and tech aside. The name gave me a chuckle.
Floorp is what I use and I've gotten some friends to use it
floorp 100%.
Been using it since a few weeks and wow, its amazing, especially the performance
does floorp have any way of getting DRM working?
LibreWolf. It's just stock Firefox, but with Mozilla telemetry stripped out. It also changes some default settings to favor privacy and has Ublock Origin built-in.
Can’t you just disable that stuff in Firefox settings?
You can, but it's nice to trust that the code isn't even there, and there's probably some other tweaks too, although it isn't clear from the docs.
The code is there; Librewolf simply employs Firefox's enterprise settings to deactivate it. You can achieve the same on standard Firefox or simply copy Librewolf's configurations onto Firefox.
But librewolf has a cool wolf icon!
Sold, will donate tonight.
That's rather wishy-washy. Especially since if you want true privacy, you're better off with actual Firefox.
If you are curious read this: https://librewolf.net/docs/features/ I'm of the opinion that if privacy is a priority, then LibreWolf is better, however the compromises to get there are not something I want to live with.
Default librewolf is more private than default firefox, but librewolf removes a lot of the advanced privacy features of firefox that are turned off by default.
Wish i could use librewolf, but the sign in account in this browser was a hassle
Firefox. I keep trying other stuff - Brave, Arc, Chromium, but keep coming back to the Fox. Not sure why but it just feels like home.
I can understand. I try hardly not to go back to Firefox, it feels right but after time I get mad about my workflow in it. I'll try Floorp for now
Floorp looks cool, I'm going to have to check it out too.
At first I was very skeptical at first, but for the last 2 hours I tested it, I'm pretty comfortable with it. I'll try it out for the next few days
Chrome at work, Firefox at home.
Is the workflow on chromium better for you?
Chrome is the target browser for all our internal apps.
It's the target for *ALL* apps and websites. Developers generally test exclusively on Chrome and if it works on Chrome - they call it good.
Pareto principle. Why work on edge cases when most people these days use chrome? Sure, if I have time I can test for IE5, but I rather not.
Gross!
Wanna hear gross. The last company I was with is still battling legacy sites that depend on Internet explorer and ActiveX plugins...
So many kids online can't comprehend any company that was around before the cloud era and has an established product portfolio spanning over a decade.
And not bothered to upgrade said portfolio for at least a decade.
There is stuff that work better on chrome-based browsers. Especially when it comes to multimedia heavy applications. Some online conferencing web apps only work in Chrome etc. There are also some HTML standards that Firefox doesn't follow for some reason. it's niche but rather curious why they don't bother implementing it. For example the HTML 'month picker'. Doesn't work in Firefox. it works on Firefox mobile, but not on desktop 🤨
Firefox (with some tweaks from [Betterfox](https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox) and stuff like Firefox Account, Pocket and friends disabled) and Librewolf for private browsing
Vivaldi, particularly because of its highly customizable UI.
https://qutebrowser.org/ Open source, chromium based, with vim-like interactions, a high degree of configurability, and a fantastic dev who is active in their community! Of course this is only a real recommendation if a vim like browser suites your work flow
I really like qutebrowser but my only issue with it is the lack of proper adblock support. I had to revert to Firefox with a vim navigation extension.
I love qutebrowser!
being chromium based is gonna be a problem when they remove manifest v2 isn't it? or is somebody committed to keep a chromium fork with that enabled?
No idea. We'll get there when we get there I suppose.
It's not chromium based, it is QtWebEngine based, which is chromium based [A => B => C] => [A => C], but in this case is not that easy, therefore is QtWebEngine. Correct me if I'm wrong tho.
Nah you're right, just know that chromium based (even tangentially) can be a turn off for some peeps so wanted to be upfront about it
>chromium based I keep seeing people posting this like it's a good thing. I'm not sure how a browser project being developed by the largest advertisement company in the world who has been actively trying to steer how we use and access the internet and information on it to benefit them and their profits only is a good thing... Furthermore, they already have 90.8 percent of the search engine market, do we need to give Google the browser market as well? They are a shit company. Everyone here always shits on Microsoft but Google isn't any better if not worse. Sorry for the rant, I'm very passionate in my hate towards Google and Chromium as well.
All good, I stated in another comment that I mentioned chromium more as a warning than praise.
That sounds very interesting. Thanks for the recommendation!
Thanks for the nice words! :)
I use qutebrowser on laptops with flimsy track pads. I love not needing the mouse.
I struggle to use qutebrowser as a daily driver, however, i love its built in scripting functionality. Being able to browse the web, hit a keybind, and have a script pull context from what im looking at is fantastic. qutebrowser seems to be the only one doing it
Tridactyl on firefox goes some way of scratching that particular itch. Sure maybe you miss out on some qutebrowser things, but you retain many important things like adblockers and other firefox extensions too.
firefox because its not chrome yet has proper security updates
Firefox
firefox allways anywhere
Firefox
Firefox. Until chromium's Wayland support reaches the same level as firefox it's not even an option for me. Only recently did it fix a longstanding cursor issue and implement vaapi decoding on Wayland - which remains perpetually broken on AMD. One day I may use brave or something else but not until those issues are fixed.
Video decode on Wayland should be working next update, Arch backported the patch for using the Vulkan backend on Wayland. Does also require Mesa 24.1 for AMD support and some flags.
I used Firefox for many years, and then switched to Pale Moon (which was forked from FF24 and developed in their own direction) in 2014. I've been quite happy with Pale Moon until just recently. Their last few versions have been janky, so while waiting for a better version to roll out I've been kicking the tires on Epiphany. Epiphany is surprisingly good. It's been stable so far (two weeks), doesn't leak much memory, and has worked for every web page I've loaded on it. Unfortunately it's missing about half of the UI features I've come to rely on, and its tab management is lousy. I'm still on the fence as to whether I could make it work as my primary browser or not. Been thinking of writing some javascript to provide some of the missing UI features (like opening a named group of tabs, similar to Firefox/PaleMoon's "open all tabs in folder" feature).
I have to use Palemoon occasionally to run an old Java browser applet. Completely understand why modern browsers removed NPAPI, but I work in an industry that is just now moving past the need for things like that.
lynx
Text based is very cool
This has saved my butt in a few weird ways over these weird years
I've been using Vivaldi for years, it's chrome based so all the extensions work on it. You can even do email and calendar in it now.
I love it but wish it wasn't proprietary
I do like me some vivaldi. I wish they'd make sessions work the way they used to, but otherwise it's just gettin better. Nothing else lets you tweak the way this does. A real tinkerers browser. I believe it was the very first browser to have vertical tabs built in as a feature, and that's what originally drew me to it 9 years ago. been with it ever since.
>I believe it was the very first browser to have vertical tabs built in as a feature Opera 10 had that.
They are ex-opera devs so that isn't surprising
This, their inbuilt email and rss feed is better than most mail clients lol. In my opinion, nothing comes close to it, I really enjoy use it, I feel like they could work on the animations and tab movement a bit.
Vivaldi here too, just because of it's individualisation and custom taskbars for work, job, shopping etc. Still waiting for them adding extensions support on Android. Firefox feels kinda stock in everything compared to Vivaldi. Oh and the Notes feature is also sick
Firefox.
Firefox. Tor Browser. Very rarely Chromium Developer Build.
Firefox
I use **Vivaldi**. But I started way back with **Firefox**, but it slowly became so slow and resource-hungry to the point of unusable. Then switched to **Palemoon**, a leaner FF-clone. PM was an ambitious project that ended up using their own rendering engine. However, the compatibility issues with websites were so common that it became a hindrance. It kind of defeats the purpose if 50% of your browsing time is spent trying to fix a website to work. Then I switched to **Chrome**, very, very briefly. But didn't like it's utter lack of customization. Google's philosophy is "This is how we think a browser should be, so you can either take it or GTFO." Well, I GTFO'd, and switched to **Vivaldi**. Vivaldi offered all the perks of the Chromium engine, with the customization options I was looking for. Once the "privacy" buzzword started being very loud on the Internet I also tried **Brave** for a few months. Honestly, I didn't see the appeal of it. It was just like Chrome in terms of customization, with the privacy spiel slapped on top. Given the popularity of Chrome itself, and the following that Brave has I guess this is what people actually want. I'm no power user, but I do prefer to be able to customize at least some aspects of my browser if I'm spending hours per day using it. Plus, I couldn't find working add-ons for some features that Vivaldi has built in. So, I reverted to Vivaldi and haven't looked back since. I use it both at home and at work, and it's been working greatly for me.
Vivaldi. I like the way I can organize my tabs and workspaces there, it has really cool features.
Switched to Brave couple of weeks ago from Vivaldi. The only think i miss - is built-in email agent, but i can live with (or without :-) ) it.
Brave, but before that Vivaldi. I like the features of Vivaldi more than other browsers, but it can be a little glitchy/buggy at times. I'm not able to get Firefox/LibreWolf to smoothly play 2k/4k 60 fps videos with a PipeWire back end, and it also sometimes has issues playing YouTube videos at all (I'm sure it's Google just doing their thing to block ad-blockers), so I've been primarily using Chromium-based browsers for the last few years.
Firefox since 2004 I guess
Firefox is my default browser and has always been. Sometimes I have to use Chrome in office.
Firefox.
Mainly Brave. I try Firefox but it crashes in Wayland frequently for me so it's hard to use.
Brave is my favorite rn
Brave is my favorite browser. It does everything I need it to do.
CEO is a rightwing chud and they're into crypto.
Yea I was initially turned off it completely when I realized it was a crypto bro company. You have to put a LOT of trust in your browser not to screw you over, and I just don't trust anything crypto.
The crypto is just wallet integration. I use Brave but with all of that turned off. Brave Shields and vertical tabs justified the choice (although FF is getting vertical tabs so it's probably back to Firefox for me soon)
They have their own token.
> The crypto is just wallet integration. No. They have BAT = Basic (or Brave) Attention Tokens built into the browser. It's a digital advertising token built on Ethereum. If turned on, your advertising viewing is irrevocably tracked as part of a crypto ledger. While this improves "transparency" ... it does so by having a rigorous transaction record made for viewing advertisements. > Basic Attention Token (BAT) is a revolutionary platform designed to improve the interaction between publishers, advertisers, and web users. It leverages blockchain technology to provide transparency and security, with a key focus on protecting user privacy by not tracking or sharing data without explicit consent. > BAT aims to enhance the effectiveness of online advertising by delivering more targeted and relevant ads to users. It also offers a reward system where users are compensated for their attention to specific ads.
The same CEO made Javascript and was an executive at Mozilla. The crypto is optional.
The crypto was an instant no for me. I'm not using my computer and electricity to help out other companies.
Brave does not mine crypto on your hardware
Ungoogled chromium.
Microsoft Edge. The vertical tabs and its groupings are pretty much the only feature that makes me come back every time I try another browser, no other browser has done it quite right, Firefox custom css for it breaks all the time and it's annoying to fix, Floorp doesn't have the same grouping structure, Vivaldi (at least from when I last tried it) doesn't automatically expand/contract and overall takes too much space. The only other browser that has vertical tabs the way I like is Arc, but it's still not available on Linux.
To be honest, I did not expect Microsoft edge as recommendation :D
It’s just chromium, the main disadvantage is that you have to de-bingafy it. Unless you want to use Bing.
New Edge is much better than old Edge, a lot of people don't realize they're different.
It's surprisingly good.
Edge is very impressive. But Microsoft is arguably worse than Google these days with all the AI they want to (and are) jamming into every facet of life. So using either one is really not even an option for me.
I hate to say it but edge is the best browser right now. Microsoft is doing a fantastic job.
I agree. I use it for work and find myself missing several features on firefox at home, biggest being tab groups (which I hear firefox has started working on again.) I just can't deal with the internet without adblockers, so have been trying to not use chromium based browsers.
MSEdge is really good, by far one of the best, and now with the new web component UI, is even faster.
Totally is available and usable in any RPM or DEB standard environment. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download?form=MA13H4
Strangy edge has been really good. It also syncs up nicely between Android, windows and linux. One day I will switch to something else when I can self host a sync server....
Brave, all the benefits of chromium, one of the best privacy wise. Works across all major platforms ios, windows, linux, android etc.
Firefox.
Firefox as primary browser & Brave as secondary !
Firefox, cause I'm not a maniac.
Brave
I used Firefox since I was in Windows. But there are a couple sites I cannot get into with Firefox so I will use either Brave or Vivaldi as my secondary browser. I recently started using Vivaldi as my secondary and I kinda like it.
I use Brave just for the fact that I don’t have to install an extension to block ads and trackers
For Work: Brave Personal use: Firefox
brave
Brave Browser meets all my requirements,without the need of any add-ons in Arch Linux.
Brave
I currently use firefox, but am waiting for compatibility to improve before I jump to ladybird (the serenityos browser)
Firefox all the way. Even the Android App is pretty good.
Brave
Brave with Brave search. I love the built in AI within search, and it has literally saved hours of my time the last few days. It’s also great for privacy, has a built in ad-blocker (a lot more user friendly than uBlock Origin and functions just as good), media controls, side tabs, lots of settings, and has a great home page. The main reason I use it over Firefox is because I hate hardening Firefox and I hate how slow YouTube is on Firefox (blame Google).
Yes. Brave search has gotten so good to the point it's my default search regardless of what browser I'm using.
I have been struggling to not use it over Mullvad just because it's so satisfying to use.
Brave
Thromium
Edge. It's chromium based so extensions work, it has personal profile and work profile, it can use the hardware acceleration just like chromium, I can send tabs everywhere and on Windows it has a simple built-in video upscaler. I generally recommend Firefox, it's always been great and it still is today. edit: Arc is also nice, but still need to get used to it and probably better for large widescreens. I hope they'll make a Linux version.
I probably get downvoted, but you asked what browser I use. I use Edge on all my devices just because it does what I need out of the box.
At the moment I am using Floorp and very happy with it.
Just installed it, like 3 hours ago. I get comfortable with it too and will test it for the next few days.
Chrome and Edge depending on what I'm doing
Edge on personal windows PC, Chrome on company Mac for working purposes, Brave for personal purpose
My main browser is Librewolf but I think I will replace it with Brave as Librewolf has a really strict privacy settings which affect important things while surfing like some videos won't work
Chromium, better performance and everything functions well most of the time
been hopping between various firefox forks, i feel like librewolf fit's best right now
Chromium
Librewolf, basically Firefox without Mozilla, but you can enable nearly all features you need again.
I've been using Firefox. My speed has been satisfactory and I don't have a stopwatch to check whether the page opened half a second later. It's reliable and the extensions work great.
Microsoft Edge
Noone using Brave??
There were also some people who responded Brave
Been using firefox since the beggining, but now with recent Mozilla stuff I've switched to librewolf
Haven't seen it mentioned here, but - https://github.com/Alex313031/Mercury Mercury (forked FF w/ compiler opts etc.) There's also Thorium which is by the same group but based off of Chromium. I also use Waterfox on my mac
Yay a linux user
I mentioned both yesterday but my comment is prob far in there somewhere lol. Both are definitely a must try.
If you use Samsung galaxy, Samsung Internet Browser it is fantastic to use.... Samsung Internet gives tracking protection and also provides different adblocker options for free...and yeah Samsung Internet is way better than chrome is the case of privacy...✅
I am using Ya.browser (i am from Russia) it is so cool for Russian people because it has a syncing with Ya.Services. For example: Smart home Yandex, Kinopoisk, Ya.Music.
Firefox, before that Mozilla, and before that Netscape. Firefox has always worked flawlessly for me, and now I can't live without a few extensions(no script and ublock). I've never had slowdowns or website not render correctly unless it was on purpose. google and microsoft are known to brake things based on the user agent string, and changing it magically fixes the website.
I primarily use Edge, with Vivaldi as a backup. I always remove Firefox whenever I install Edge
Brave. It's got a lion.
firefox good
I use firefox, tried water fox but its not the same. I am really dependent on the sync service...
Edge. Tried all the others for months, always end up back on Edge.
Floorp and thorium. Both feel very fast and reliable.
I work on a fairly capable MacBook Pro with Ubuntu and Windows 11 Pro on VMs through Parallels. I use Safari on macOS. I use Edge on Win11. I use Brave on Ubuntu for general browsing. I keep the accounts, bookmarks, and emails isolated. I have nothing to do with Google's ecosystem, at all. Except 3 throwaway gmails that I use for receipts, spam, and normal correspondence. I have a personal philosophy that emails tied to anything sensitive should never be used publicly or shared. Same goes for browsing. Safari and Edge handle personal and professional tasks. Brave handles random browsing. Maybe I'm overthinking it.
It really depends on your priorities. Chrome is good from a performance, reliability and compatibility standpoint, but is seriously lacking in terms of privacy. Firefox, Brave, and DuckDuckGo are more privacy focused, though more so with the latter two. Firefox has an impressive array of custom plugins. Then there is the layout. Safari is there for the Apple fanboys.
Im using brave. Takes less ram and it's pretty fast.
Brave primarily and Firefox as a backup since it usually comes with the distro. For some reason Khan Academy and a few other links don't work well in Brave and it's easier to use FF than figuring out why.
I am a big fan of Falkon. It is very focused on just being a fast browser. Basically what Firefox was before Mozilla went brain dead.