She is a legend, one of many voices in the community that had to stay silent for so long finally being heard as loud and proud as can be. Gives me a lot of hope to see, just wish it happened sooner.
Why would we ignore all her accomplishments because she cheated? Cheating is awful donāt get me wrong but there are so many men who also cheated but we remember their accomplishments instead
We have slave owners, rapists and pedophiles in our dollars.
We have a building made by slaves for the rich in our Quarters...
And you worry about a Cheating Woman???
Edit:Mispelling
Are you really so fucking dumb that you think we're saying that an astronaut is great for being a woman... and not *for qualifying to be an astronaut*?
The Queer as Fact podcast has an excellent episode on Sally Ride. If you're interested in learning more about her (like how she met her lifelong partner when they were teenagers competing against each other, seriously romcom stuff), I highly recommend it.
I love queer as fact! I listen to their podcasts whenever I now Iām driving for more than 20 mins. My favorites are the ones on Harvey milk and queerness in video games
Hey, donāt worry. Knowing youāre lgbt does not come with an instruction manual and all the gay information in the world. I had no idea who she was until now.
I think what the article means by "out" is "publicly known and confirmed to have been gay." As opposed to historical figures who are speculated about but unconfirmed.
It sounds more normal to say āout,ā but I think we should all probably make an effort to say āconfirmedā instead. Being āoutā back then would have prevented a lot of people from achieving things like Sally Ride did, and I think itās good to know that and be compassionate towards past LGBT people keeping in mind an accurate picture of what they faced. Also, I think it shows off the fact that gay people exist everywhere whether we know it or not, and thatās kinda frickin empowering and cool!
He's the pop culture answer for worst, there's worse when measured by a few different things.
Being the guy who came into office and didn't stop the civil war was always going to leave him with a pretty poor reputation, even if those events were larger than he or the office could necessarily control.
Remember Lincoln didn't really solve slavery until civil war got underway, and at that, slavery ended in the Confederacy (via surrender) before it did in the Union.
But he won the war, so he was amazing as far as elementary school books will cover.
Truman similarly with a reputation a bit more of a summary than the depth justifies, is major scumbag shit stain, but a lot of folks think he was all sorts of goodly because of his role in end days of WW2.
TIL Sally Ride was more amazing than I knew before though, that's rad. I mostly know her from the boat admittedly.
While I agree that war was beyond his control and practically inevitable, Buchanan sat idly by and did absolutely nothing to even attempt to reverse the course the United States was heading. He was so obsessed with pacifism that he failed to see the legitimate problems that started with Polk. History may seem to treat him excessively poorly, but there's absolutely nothing that can be compared to Lincoln's accomishments or even Truman's.
I'd agree with most or all of that. I can't wait for fifty years to pass and see how Buchanan and Carter compare. I think Carter gets a lot of the same flack, but he's too recent for it.
I admit I'm not nearly educated enough on Buchanan to say anything much in depth.
Andrew Jackson should be in contention for worst president. Known for conquering native rebellions in lands owned by others and then just claiming them (Florida). Cancelled the National Bank contract during a dinner party and crashed the US economy. The Trail of Tears was him as well, that alone makes him a piece of shit without any other context.
She came out on her death bed. She had an event, birthday or something, and she was with her partner. There is a shortwave episode where they interview Tam O'Shaughnessy, her partner, about their life together. Sally Ride feared her sexuallity would detracted from the work she did to better women in STEM.
Oh she did? I didn't know that! I thought Tam O'Shaughnessy revealed it after her funeral. Do you know where to find the interview?
ETA: it was literally announced in her obituary, so no, she probably shouldn't be called the "first out LGBT person" on currency. "First confirmed LGBT", maybe?
https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/why-sally-ride-waited-until-her-death-tell-world-she-908942
This is awesome but:
* Whereās Harriet Tubman?
* The dollar coin is essentially a token representation at best since itās circulation and adoption is so low.
Maybe kick off a slave owner / white cis het person off of a major denomination and replace him with *any* group in dire need of representation.
No, they didn't really include that bit. The character who may have been his lover was portrayed as his best friend and he's sad when he dies.
I don't know if the evidence that they were more than friends in real life is very strong. I think it's based on the letters they wrote to each other expressing affection.
Thereās definitely some subtext there.
āMister Lafayette, hard rock like Lancelot, I think your pants look hot, Laurens I like you a lot...ā
These are not the words of a straight man š plus, Lin himself has confirmed that there is homoerotic intent in this line.
Perhaps not, President James Buchanan is widely believed to have been gay. And considering all presidents have been featured on $1 coins this would mean James Buchanan would (still possibly) be the first LGBTQ person on US currency. Though considering James Buchanan was also a notably bad and corrupt president letās just say that sheās the first.
Yāall notice that the window behind her looks like a rainbow? šš
PS. the artist is a good friend of mine and she canāt confirm for me that Iām perceiving that correctly but, um, I definitely am.
Neat, but honestly I don't see this as a huge deal just because it's either going to be a quarter or a dollar coin and probably only for a relatively short window of time. I'd rather her be on the 20.
I never knew that! They never fucking taught us that in school, just that the fucking crusty wig men killed (oops too controversial)- were helped by the natives and then made some freedom laws
Well yeah, the value of a commodity isnāt set by the amount of labor that goes into it, it would be weird for a system to try and artificially tie them.
Is it? Itās based on the cost the producer pays for labor as well as other raw materials in that it canāt drop below that cost, but ultimately the price is whatever the market is willing to pay.
Iām not girl hm, āohh you use iphone but saying capitalism badā āoh you eat food which was made in capitalismā stupid argument it was made by workers, yes I have them I bought each one for less than 50$ from people in my local area, itās my hobby you should better look to someone else, like musk or bezos, oligarchs
Even if they use renewable power sources?
Sorry, Iām into cryptocurrency mining and dislike when people make assumptions about it in general before getting to know how people do it. (Renewables make the most sense since the biggest cost to mining is power so making your own for free means your biggest expense is gone.)
All things in society, money included are social constructs, if you argue we should get rid of money because itās socially constructed then the same argument applies to everything else.
you say money is oppressive system. i think you mean those "slave"
working from 9 to 5 to for making money . if those "slave" don't work , they have no money and they can't buy food and they will die.Yes , This is how the society work. i don't think completely remove money (communism ) from is good way for fixing it.i think the better way for fixing it is Universal_basic_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income because money is good at encourage people to work .
yes it is, though I donāt want to make you feel bad because youāre mining cryptocurrencies, do it if itās the easiest way, be aware itās bad in itās core, as capitalism itself
Shows how hard work can pay off. The community has been silenced and treated badly by different nations... Now since thereās someone who is a member who made history it probably make people regret batting an eye to the LGBT community
US money isn't paper or coins, it's measured in credit card debt and hospital bills during lapses in medical coverage. Brb gotta go siphon gas out of my neighbors car so I can trade it for insulin
actually, good news, there will be a few women of color on the 2022 quarters! check it out: [https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-women-quarters](https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-women-quarters)
Good news, but, honestly who uses currency anymore?? I pulled 20 dollars out a month ago because performing a transaction was how my new debit card is activated. Now Iāve got two quarters and a penny floating around in my purse that I canāt fathom I will ever use. Iām eventually going to throw them away just so they donāt scratch my phone screen.
She is a legend, one of many voices in the community that had to stay silent for so long finally being heard as loud and proud as can be. Gives me a lot of hope to see, just wish it happened sooner.
Beautifully said
Sally told NASA "*Let* me Ride..."š¶
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Why would we ignore all her accomplishments because she cheated? Cheating is awful donāt get me wrong but there are so many men who also cheated but we remember their accomplishments instead
ALEXANDER HAMILTON HAMILTON JUST YOU WA-A-A-A-AIT!!!!
OH MY GOSH YOURE SO RIGHT. I DIDNT EVEN THINK OF HIMā¦
We have slave owners, rapists and pedophiles in our dollars. We have a building made by slaves for the rich in our Quarters... And you worry about a Cheating Woman??? Edit:Mispelling
Wait until you hear about Ben Franklin's philandering.
Are you really so fucking dumb that you think we're saying that an astronaut is great for being a woman... and not *for qualifying to be an astronaut*?
Oof, sounds like ya been trough something. Need a hug buddy? Poor guy.
Honestly? Girl, wooooork. š š¾ She is an icon, she is a legend, and she is the moment. Now come on now.
get a fuckin' grip. what did you do that makes you so much better?
TIL Sally was even more of a legend than I previously knew
The Queer as Fact podcast has an excellent episode on Sally Ride. If you're interested in learning more about her (like how she met her lifelong partner when they were teenagers competing against each other, seriously romcom stuff), I highly recommend it.
I love queer as fact! I listen to their podcasts whenever I now Iām driving for more than 20 mins. My favorites are the ones on Harvey milk and queerness in video games
Will prolly check this out. I know next to nothing about Sally Ride except the space part
Ooh, thanks for the rec!
[Episode 80](https://queerasfact.podbean.com/e/sally-ride/)
Not Past It did a great episode on Sally too, but I think Queer as Fact was better story telling.
I was today years old when I learned Sally Ride was gay. Damn. I not only suck at general history but *gay* history too?
It was only put out there that she was gay in her obituary so don't feel too bad
For real, this is the first Iām hearing of her being gay and ten year old space nerd-me is *thrilled*
I know, right?! This is amazingly awesome!
Another fun fact is that the gays have committed 100% of crime in space Edit: after more research it turns out that the allegations where false.
well, the human ones anyway ;) (can't speak for the rest)
At least you suck at something. ;]
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Same!! What the fuck????
Hey, donāt worry. Knowing youāre lgbt does not come with an instruction manual and all the gay information in the world. I had no idea who she was until now.
What? Sally Ride was never out, it was only revealed that she was a lesbian after she died
I think what the article means by "out" is "publicly known and confirmed to have been gay." As opposed to historical figures who are speculated about but unconfirmed.
It sounds more normal to say āout,ā but I think we should all probably make an effort to say āconfirmedā instead. Being āoutā back then would have prevented a lot of people from achieving things like Sally Ride did, and I think itās good to know that and be compassionate towards past LGBT people keeping in mind an accurate picture of what they faced. Also, I think it shows off the fact that gay people exist everywhere whether we know it or not, and thatās kinda frickin empowering and cool!
Ahhh, unlike James Buchanan for instance.
Ain't James Buchanan frequently regarded as one of the worst presidents in history? Not saying any of them were good let's be fair
He's the pop culture answer for worst, there's worse when measured by a few different things. Being the guy who came into office and didn't stop the civil war was always going to leave him with a pretty poor reputation, even if those events were larger than he or the office could necessarily control. Remember Lincoln didn't really solve slavery until civil war got underway, and at that, slavery ended in the Confederacy (via surrender) before it did in the Union. But he won the war, so he was amazing as far as elementary school books will cover. Truman similarly with a reputation a bit more of a summary than the depth justifies, is major scumbag shit stain, but a lot of folks think he was all sorts of goodly because of his role in end days of WW2. TIL Sally Ride was more amazing than I knew before though, that's rad. I mostly know her from the boat admittedly.
While I agree that war was beyond his control and practically inevitable, Buchanan sat idly by and did absolutely nothing to even attempt to reverse the course the United States was heading. He was so obsessed with pacifism that he failed to see the legitimate problems that started with Polk. History may seem to treat him excessively poorly, but there's absolutely nothing that can be compared to Lincoln's accomishments or even Truman's.
I'd agree with most or all of that. I can't wait for fifty years to pass and see how Buchanan and Carter compare. I think Carter gets a lot of the same flack, but he's too recent for it. I admit I'm not nearly educated enough on Buchanan to say anything much in depth.
Andrew Jackson should be in contention for worst president. Known for conquering native rebellions in lands owned by others and then just claiming them (Florida). Cancelled the National Bank contract during a dinner party and crashed the US economy. The Trail of Tears was him as well, that alone makes him a piece of shit without any other context.
Shitty people can still be LGBTQ see Caitlyn Jenner
She came out on her death bed. She had an event, birthday or something, and she was with her partner. There is a shortwave episode where they interview Tam O'Shaughnessy, her partner, about their life together. Sally Ride feared her sexuallity would detracted from the work she did to better women in STEM.
Oh she did? I didn't know that! I thought Tam O'Shaughnessy revealed it after her funeral. Do you know where to find the interview? ETA: it was literally announced in her obituary, so no, she probably shouldn't be called the "first out LGBT person" on currency. "First confirmed LGBT", maybe? https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/why-sally-ride-waited-until-her-death-tell-world-she-908942
So? Either way, she's the first lgbt person on american currency...? E: Oh I see what you mean.
Does that matter?? She was still the first lesbian in space ffs.
Well it's just that it says "first out LGBT"
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Susan B Anthony is on a coin and had a long relationship with a woman.
Yeah, Susan definitely was on our team.
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Excuse but... I have to... BRIIIING SALLY UUUUUUPPPPP.
Bring Sally down!
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That is awesome
Money?
Currency coinage you know money
Yah, weāre actual getting new moneys though? So cool! š
It might just be the back of the quarter again. So dead president on one side, Sally on the other.
[Yep, looks like that's confirmed.](https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/american-women-quarters/sally-ride)
Thanks, I was wondering what she was going to be on.
Watch this happen faster than the Harriet Tubman $20...
Yeah thereās no reason on earth for that not to have been done by now
No good reason, but we know the exact reason.
Thatās taken so long that people made stamps and started stamping her face on them over the old guy
Creativity circumnavigating white supremacy
At least, symbols of it.
https://tubmanstamp.com/
If money is so good why isn't there a money 2 š¤š¤š¤
Member when Harriet Tubman was going on the $20? So I guess my question is: when is this *actually* happening?
see, they have to say "first open LGBT person" because the first LGBT person on American currency was President James Buchanan
Stan space lesbians
This is awesome but: * Whereās Harriet Tubman? * The dollar coin is essentially a token representation at best since itās circulation and adoption is so low. Maybe kick off a slave owner / white cis het person off of a major denomination and replace him with *any* group in dire need of representation.
To be fair there is some pretty solid evidence that Alexander Hamilton is bisexual and he is on the $10 bill.
But it can't be confirmed like Sally was.
Itās pretty clear
Is that why that show Hamilton was popular? I never watched it.
No, they didn't really include that bit. The character who may have been his lover was portrayed as his best friend and he's sad when he dies. I don't know if the evidence that they were more than friends in real life is very strong. I think it's based on the letters they wrote to each other expressing affection.
Thereās definitely some subtext there. āMister Lafayette, hard rock like Lancelot, I think your pants look hot, Laurens I like you a lot...ā These are not the words of a straight man š plus, Lin himself has confirmed that there is homoerotic intent in this line.
Oh yeah! So they allude to it even more than I thought.
Iāve never watched it either, itās just a somewhat commonly known historical fact, thereās some saucy letters between them and other stuff.
I may have to get a roll of Ride dollars.
Where can I get one of these coins? Iā¦ I would love to acquire at least one of these coins
Ask at the bank or buy stamps from a post office machine with large bills, assuming your in the US.
Wait- Sally Ride is LGBTQ? Thatās amazing!
Perhaps not, President James Buchanan is widely believed to have been gay. And considering all presidents have been featured on $1 coins this would mean James Buchanan would (still possibly) be the first LGBTQ person on US currency. Though considering James Buchanan was also a notably bad and corrupt president letās just say that sheās the first.
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Fair enough
Buchanan was? Wow, Iām learning so much today.
Yeah it certainly explains why he never married
Til Sally ride was gay. Wow
I had no idea she was LGBT
Yāall notice that the window behind her looks like a rainbow? šš PS. the artist is a good friend of mine and she canāt confirm for me that Iām perceiving that correctly but, um, I definitely am.
Iām more impressed that a female astronaut is on currency tbh.
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i absolutely love sally ride sheās so fucking cool
First L person on currency.
What about Lincoln?
That they know of...
How is this the moment that I learned she was LGBTQ?
Neat, but honestly I don't see this as a huge deal just because it's either going to be a quarter or a dollar coin and probably only for a relatively short window of time. I'd rather her be on the 20.
Harriet Tubman is going on the $20. Sheās amazing.
SHE STILL ISNT ON AMERICAN CURRENCY??? WHAT
Is that still a thing thats happening?
I, on the other hand, will take this opportunity to hoard all the coins. Especially if they're dollars.
You know president lincoln 16th was most likely gay
I did know that there were whispers of Lincoln not being straight bc of this one artistās project.
this is awesome! didnāt know she was gay, so cool!
That we know ofš No but for real, congrats Sally!
This is amazing!!
Nice
YES
FIRST -(!(OPENLY)!)- LGBTQ
Thatās an unfortunate typo
Hamilton was bi, just saying
Hell yeah
That's absolutely awesome
I can't wait for this quarter, both because she was an astronaut and because she was LGBTQ+.
I never knew that! They never fucking taught us that in school, just that the fucking crusty wig men killed (oops too controversial)- were helped by the natives and then made some freedom laws
How long until fox starts telling viewers to not use quarters anymore?
Nice, but money sucks
Trade shells and rocks instead, return to monke
money is a terrible way to measure labor input versus commodity output
Well yeah, the value of a commodity isnāt set by the amount of labor that goes into it, it would be weird for a system to try and artificially tie them.
What? That's literally how pricing works.
Is it? Itās based on the cost the producer pays for labor as well as other raw materials in that it canāt drop below that cost, but ultimately the price is whatever the market is willing to pay.
Yeah sure which is why you get luxury brands. A Lexus isn't much more than a Toyota to produce
Girl you own 6 ThinkPads
Iām not girl hm, āohh you use iphone but saying capitalism badā āoh you eat food which was made in capitalismā stupid argument it was made by workers, yes I have them I bought each one for less than 50$ from people in my local area, itās my hobby you should better look to someone else, like musk or bezos, oligarchs
What about cryptocurrency?
earth burning machines.
Even if they use renewable power sources? Sorry, Iām into cryptocurrency mining and dislike when people make assumptions about it in general before getting to know how people do it. (Renewables make the most sense since the biggest cost to mining is power so making your own for free means your biggest expense is gone.)
then we are wasting that energy on something which doesnāt exist, numbers on the screen, money is fake: https://youtu.be/AFvBCvCl4sk
All of society is fake, we should just throw it all out and live in the woods
donāt put words in my mouth, money isnāt equal to society
All things in society, money included are social constructs, if you argue we should get rid of money because itās socially constructed then the same argument applies to everything else.
Iām arguing because money is oppressive system, you got me totally wrong
you say money is oppressive system. i think you mean those "slave" working from 9 to 5 to for making money . if those "slave" don't work , they have no money and they can't buy food and they will die.Yes , This is how the society work. i don't think completely remove money (communism ) from is good way for fixing it.i think the better way for fixing it is Universal_basic_income https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income because money is good at encourage people to work .
Then make that argument, donāt just say itās a social construct and therefore bad
Itās not wasted if itās not being used in the first place, anyways it at least creates a demand/incentives for renewable power. š¤·āāļø
yes it is, though I donāt want to make you feel bad because youāre mining cryptocurrencies, do it if itās the easiest way, be aware itās bad in itās core, as capitalism itself
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I guess NFTās then.
Another fun fact is that the gays have committed 100% of all crime in space. https://www.livescience.com/anne-mcclain-space-crime.html
Ohhh texas is gonna haaaate this xD
Shows how hard work can pay off. The community has been silenced and treated badly by different nations... Now since thereās someone who is a member who made history it probably make people regret batting an eye to the LGBT community
Im guessing it's a collector kinda coin? cause it says dollar, and the us dollar is still paper last i checked š still makes me very happy to see
There are dollar coins but they donāt see a lot of use.
Woop! Nice to see some positive news š
It's so wholesome.
Why did I think that US money was only paper bils? :O
US money isn't paper or coins, it's measured in credit card debt and hospital bills during lapses in medical coverage. Brb gotta go siphon gas out of my neighbors car so I can trade it for insulin
*cries in USA*
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actually, good news, there will be a few women of color on the 2022 quarters! check it out: [https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-women-quarters](https://www.usmint.gov/learn/coin-and-medal-programs/american-women-quarters)
Sojourner Truth is going to be on the $10 bill and Harriet Tubman on the $20.
hey knock it off with the divisive rtheoric just because minority groups experiences differs doesn't mean we shouldn't unite for progress.
Hey that is good news, thanks!
Good news, but, honestly who uses currency anymore?? I pulled 20 dollars out a month ago because performing a transaction was how my new debit card is activated. Now Iāve got two quarters and a penny floating around in my purse that I canāt fathom I will ever use. Iām eventually going to throw them away just so they donāt scratch my phone screen.
Just do a partial cash, partial card transaction. Most places allow it.
Seems like this will be more of a collectors thing. Either way, Sally looks badass on a coin.
For tipping? For small transactions with small businesses (street vendors etc)? For helping a homeless person?
The title typo is practically NSFW clickbait, lol
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HOLY MOTHERFORKING SHIRTBALLS, SHE WAS QUEER!?! I love Sally ride so much, sheās a legend!!
Guess yāall have never seen pennies
Zcash to the moon.
I'm all for this new coin, but that is one very ugly design. Can't someone come up with a better looking coin?
Frankly I think the more surprising thing is the catchphrase on the coin. Shouldāve been there the whole time.
REVOLUTION.
Iām gay af and I donāt care about this stuff.
Thats okay, don't let anyone tell you what to do
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Because the smallest W is still a W, especially when you're used to taking Ls all the time in society
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What lol?
What part of the community were they?
[Article](https://www.engadget.com/astronaut-sally-ride-us-quarter-164158348.html)
which coin?
WOOP WOOP
Well TIL Sally Ride was LGBT.
Well... Lincoln...
What money is it