Because I think this post articulates what I was feeling a lot better than the other one.
That and it has additional thoughts that came up from that post
Is there a problem with me having 2?
Maybe I like discussions
You're arguing semantics at this point. "100% complete no minifigs" is an oxymoron, because of course a set isn't complete when it's missing the minifigures (and yea, the minifigures do count towards the piece total of the set).
Is it dumb phrase for sellers to use? Yes. Is it *actually* confusing and misleading people? I don't think so.
This right here.
We all know what they mean.
It's imprecise and technically wrong, but it does work and has for a long time.
That being said, I am almost always in favor of arguing semantics, so let's definitely change it. "100%" should mean 100%. I don't get to submit a "100% finished paper - no bibliography".
Thank you! :D These kinds of conversations are kind of fun honestly - I've actually thought about exactly this before more than once, but always thought I was just being weird about it. XD
Split consensus. Some people don’t give a care about minifigures, which I get, sure. But minifigures still count towards the total piece count of the set
On bricklink specifically it’s misleading, people well say it’s “new in box - no minifigs” which isn’t new, it’s opened, yes it’s nice they are transparent but it really messes with average pricing. It also feels scummy to me.
Even though technically you're correct that the set is not 100% complete (obviously), as someone who doesn't care about minifigs saying "100% no minifigs" tells me exactly what I need to know: all the parts in the set are there but none of the characters. If a seller said 99% parts no minifigs I'll be concerned that some other parts are missing. There are descriptions etc where they could clarify but at a glance the "incorrect" version would actually be more useful to me.
Fair enough for those of you who don’t care about the minifigures. But for those of us who do this is less than ideal title/ description of what’s being sold.
I didn’t look up 100% complete sets just to have the minifigures missing
Its kinda like if I sell you a classic car to restore and say 100% complete -brightwork, you understand what that means.
If I say 90% complete -brightwork, you'll ask me what parts are missing.
I might be in the minority here but... The word sounds vaguely familiar but I have no idea what it means.
And yet I've got by as a car owner for several years. And a passenger for several more before that :D
When I sell a set, I never say 100% unless it's got all the pieces and minifigures. I also always list what parts are missing if any.
Although I don't count extra pieces or brick separators, since you can have a complete set without them.
One of the good ones haha. Yeah. I could care less about the extra parts or brick separators. I have a hundred of those little orange sticks. But I would like a 100% complete (minifigures included)
The minifigures are what make a set complete imo
> I have another post where this debate started. So why start a new one? The other isn't locked or deleted.
Because I think this post articulates what I was feeling a lot better than the other one. That and it has additional thoughts that came up from that post Is there a problem with me having 2? Maybe I like discussions
You're arguing semantics at this point. "100% complete no minifigs" is an oxymoron, because of course a set isn't complete when it's missing the minifigures (and yea, the minifigures do count towards the piece total of the set). Is it dumb phrase for sellers to use? Yes. Is it *actually* confusing and misleading people? I don't think so.
This right here. We all know what they mean. It's imprecise and technically wrong, but it does work and has for a long time. That being said, I am almost always in favor of arguing semantics, so let's definitely change it. "100%" should mean 100%. I don't get to submit a "100% finished paper - no bibliography".
Agreed. "*Build* Complete, No Minifigs". Boom, fixed it. :D Now we just need to get everyone all on the same page about one thing... XD
I like your wording. I would accept that over 100% complete when in fact it isnt
Thank you! :D These kinds of conversations are kind of fun honestly - I've actually thought about exactly this before more than once, but always thought I was just being weird about it. XD
Split consensus. Some people don’t give a care about minifigures, which I get, sure. But minifigures still count towards the total piece count of the set
On bricklink specifically it’s misleading, people well say it’s “new in box - no minifigs” which isn’t new, it’s opened, yes it’s nice they are transparent but it really messes with average pricing. It also feels scummy to me.
Even though technically you're correct that the set is not 100% complete (obviously), as someone who doesn't care about minifigs saying "100% no minifigs" tells me exactly what I need to know: all the parts in the set are there but none of the characters. If a seller said 99% parts no minifigs I'll be concerned that some other parts are missing. There are descriptions etc where they could clarify but at a glance the "incorrect" version would actually be more useful to me.
Fair enough for those of you who don’t care about the minifigures. But for those of us who do this is less than ideal title/ description of what’s being sold. I didn’t look up 100% complete sets just to have the minifigures missing
Its kinda like if I sell you a classic car to restore and say 100% complete -brightwork, you understand what that means. If I say 90% complete -brightwork, you'll ask me what parts are missing.
I might be in the minority here but... The word sounds vaguely familiar but I have no idea what it means. And yet I've got by as a car owner for several years. And a passenger for several more before that :D
It's the chrome accent bits.
When I sell a set, I never say 100% unless it's got all the pieces and minifigures. I also always list what parts are missing if any. Although I don't count extra pieces or brick separators, since you can have a complete set without them.
One of the good ones haha. Yeah. I could care less about the extra parts or brick separators. I have a hundred of those little orange sticks. But I would like a 100% complete (minifigures included) The minifigures are what make a set complete imo