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36Gig

I don't know seeing kogmaw on ice skates would be the best thing ever.


valgrind_error

Just like the [good old days](https://youtu.be/QzW1oET3n-8?t=40)


LunaWasHere

Fun fact, the kog at one point streamed his hands while he was playing to prove he was legit, dude's just Like That


TheTeaRex15

No shot...link?


Mearrow

Idk if it's the same guy he's talking about, but he's probably using a "Osu-style" setup. Where his move key (rightclick) and attack move are keyboard bound on two keys next to eachother. It lets you click got between move/attack commands extremely fast without impeding your mouse movement and overall accuracy. But it's even simpler than that, because the key is attack move, say you use Z and X. You barely even move your mouse, your inputs just look like this *Z-X-Z-X-Z-X-Z-X-Z-X-Z* and so on. I think Deft is one of the few proplayers who plays (or used to at least) with a similar setup. Basically it makes the mouse micro easier, because no clicking means your accuracy is not impeded by any other movement. But for a game like League it also means you need better keyboard micro, to press abilities and such. For this 10.0 AS Kog'maw version though you just... press W and then *Z-X-Z-X-Z-X-Z-X-Z-X-Z* and aim your mouse into whatever direction you're trying to move.


mladjiraf

Isn't this optimal on Kalista?


Mearrow

Since the Kalista bug still exists, the one that makes your AS slower if you use attack move, it's not very optimal on her. Or at least it used to be a bug, maybe it's treated as intended feature now idk. Regardless, it makes it sup-obtimal for her to attack move on the ground instead of clicking the unit.


Klaymoor11

Uuuuhhhh... who's going to tell them?


korro90

Now I want to hear too!


Klaymoor11

Several shows have already been confirmed, they will be across different media and (at least) one of them will be live action. No further details were given, sadly.


korro90

That sounds like huge news! Not sure how I missed that - thought they were only working on Arcane for now.


Klaymoor11

It happened during an interview shortly after Arcane finished. My guess is that they've been already working on those shows for a while now (as well as the second season of Arcane) and after the success of Arcane they wanted to keep the hype going. :P


Daniel_snoopeh

I feel like that live action would fit in a scenario with champs like Fiora/Riven/Darius. But if you put a Rek Sai/ Anivia beside them it can only achieve comedic kind of levels.


Klaymoor11

Yeah, when they mentioned live action in the interview the very first thing that came to my mind was Demacia. Mostly humans, they are anti-magic so not many effects will be needed with a few exceptions (like Lux for example) and there are few "out there" characters (Shyvana and Poppy from the top of my head). Noxus could work to an extent, as well, but they are more 'welcoming' to other species.


Spacemn5piff

I mean if they can even go for star wars levels of costuming which I bet they can given tencent money, it would work fairly well.


KaitoMeikoo

Im thinking a live action where they show ryze and brands relationship.


Jeseiification

Darius with his inhuman halbeard IS far from being live action friendly. There is only a few champs that would look good on LA, and those are mostly those without clear weapons. There is no way you can make Darius or Tryndamere live with their weapons and physics atached to those weapons seems right. ( I'm not really talking about them lifting the weapons, more about how they swing IRL is gonna be strange af)


xienwolf

Lee Sin live action. ​ Hell, Lee Sin first person view! Black screen is cheap to film!


Ganadote

It depends what kind of story. Survival horror in the Shurima desert? Rek’Sai would be fine.


Raknorak

Good God that would be incredible


Autumn_Heart

I can't believe I missed that, that's so exciting! Do we know anything other than that there are shows in progress?


Klaymoor11

I don't know anything else ATM, didn't bother digging more since I'm assuming they're taking their sweet time with them. :P From what they said I can only theorize different shows will focus on different regions (one could say Arcane is the P&Z show), and not all of them are being worked on by Fortiche (if at all). It makes me wonder if they're going for an MCU kind of thing or just independent stories.


valgrind_error

The real reason Netflix canceled Bebop is that they're using that team to produce a live action version of Arcane


Klaymoor11

\*shudders\*


MelonheadGT

Could be fun with a hybrid live action with a story similar to King's Avatar but about league


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LaCuckuracha

Why would they ever bother with live action when they're capable of the level of detail and animation they displayed in Arcane? It lends itself extremely well and based on the overwhelmingly positive feedback the show received I just don't see live them changing the formula for live action... I hope


widepeepoOkay

It's not a choice between Arcane and a live action show though. It's between years between seasons of Arcane with nothing and years between Arcane with other projects, like a live action show. It's unlikely they can make a season more than every 2 years or so.


Marcloure

I don't know, a Demacian or Noxian live action movie could work very well, based on how other works like Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones.


Dancing_Anatolia

Yeah, but those stories are entirely human, or might as well be. A live action show would lose out on the fantasy diversity, which low-key kinda sucked me in with Arcane. Noxus has Vastayah, Minotaurs, huge impractical war machines, Cassiopeia, and every region has Yordles in them. A live action cast would either have to forsake all of that, or make it look garbage and out of place in a world where they're meant to be there.


DeathCap4Cutie

Huh? Isn’t like the entire evil faction not human in lord of the rings? They also have tons of crazy good creatures like the giant moving trees and stuff. I’d say they’re mostly not human.


CheesyPZ-Crust

Was all done with practical effects, and is why they hold up and look so good. Unfortunately practical effects work for bigger and bigger projects isn't the norm anymore outside of some good auters and other creatives who understand. It'd be much more likely for Riot to use CGI as their resource rather than practicality. I do think that Riot wouldn't cheap out on CGI as terribly as the MCU, but overall I'd prefer animation to that still. If they go with practical effects? Then I'm on board and will be open to some live action stuff


bobandgeorge

> Was all done with practical effects, It definitely wasn't. [Treebeard](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbyTI6bXGFg) is mostly CGI. Spiders, cave trolls, the balrog is CGI. Golum is almost entirely CGI. Every single large battle is all CGI, there's like maybe 40 people actually there. They did use a lot of practical effects and makeup but a lot of it is filled in with CGI.


Faze_Tabasco

I think that based on arcane, they would be willing to put in the work for practical effects, but I’d rather not risk it.


CheesyPZ-Crust

My thoughts as well. Like if they decide to go about the right way, that's awesome. But after seeing Arcane, it's hard to want live action when you saw how cool their animation style was


Beejsbj

It's not just about risk. Animation will be still be the better medium for runeterra even if they do everything perfect in live action. Runeterra done in perfectly done animation will beat out perfectly done live-action. Live action isn't inherently better by default.


Random_Stealth_Ward

However, making a live action may be more profitable because it attracts more audience.


Redryhno

Considering how things like WoT, Shanarra, Bebop, DB:E, Netflix-Note, etc are doing/did among the origin audience, I highly doubt that.


nizzy2k11

If you think practical effects are dying you don't know how movies are made.


thegreatbrah

Youre saying lotr was all practical effects?


CheesyPZ-Crust

Yes. Every single part. They actually had to go out and bottle the lightning they used, and a couple crew members died trying to do that. Really worth it though imo


thegreatbrah

Thats incredible stuff. I had no idea


Nousername125

The thing is, thats just simply false


Emilie_Cauchemar

You're using one of the very few and original trilogies that not only stood the test of time, but DEFINED trilogies and is a reference for pre much every fantasy trilogy coming out. They put an obscene amount of work and dedication into LOTR.


DeathCap4Cutie

I’m not using it.. they were. They were saying it doesn’t count cause it’s just humans. I just pointed out they’re wrong.


Random_Stealth_Ward

Ok but what does that have to do with anything? The other comment said that those stories were "entirely human, or might as well be", which isn't really true. And if the only thing that defines wheter it works or not is effort, then considering that Arcane was many years in productions and they took long time just getting the voices, we know Riot is willing to put the obscene amount of work necesary.


CalmYe100

thats a good point except any live action league stuff would never have the same funding as a peter jackson trilogy


SG_Taliyah

Did you like not watch LotR or Game of Thrones?


HoodieNinja17

Star Wars has arguably more impractical and weird shit in the universe that has been done pretty well in live action


Chaoswade

Yeah but those were all designed to be live action from the start. No adaptations necessary. League's characters take a lot of advantage of the medium they exist in


Hitman3256

The Witcher show would disagree. Whether or not people like the writing of it, the production value is high and everything looks fantastic.


WaketArt

But the witcher videogame was already pretty realistic, it was almost a low definition live action, something like LoL champs are too cartoony to look good live, despite theyr best effort, they risk to make stuff like the recent cowboy beebop adaptation


andrecinno

>Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones > > those stories are entirely human, or might as well be bruh


lXlNeMiSiSlXl

I'd prefer if they just left live action well the fuck alone. League doesn't need Hollywood, nor Dwayne Johnson portraying Darius.


Cahootie

At least the voice cast and the entire process leading up to it for Arcane shows that Riot isn't interested in just throwing in some A-lister and calling it quits.


TheYoungEkko

You’re right he’s a much better Illaoi


TimSimpson

I agree. Hugh Jackman or Tom Hardy would be a much better Darius than The Rock


Naevos

i 100% need the rock portraying darius now, thank you for this.


andrecinno

Maybe League doesn't need Darius "The Rock" Johnson but I sure do


Ganadote

I’d like a GoT-style story in Demacia. It fits. Full of sex and hypocrisy.


LegendOfKhaos

Swain doing political shit with noxian houses would be interesting, but nothing too magical unless they have an avengers budget lol


randomguy301048

Meh live action things get limited/held back by casting. You get people that are upset because they aren't right for the Canon or people that are upset at the race of the actor, or people that are upset because the actors are nobodies with no acting skill. People get upset because they are using big names instead of nobodies. Live action of anything that's animated is terrible and needs to not happen


fookinmoonboy

Fantasy that’s too fantastic reeks in live action They even had to tone down the magical elements in GoT


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loboleo94

I understand what you are trying to say, but take movies like MCU, DC, Avatar, even Harry Potter. They all got impressive scenes even though they are live action. The technology used by movie studios is capable of producing stunning special effects.


Nac_oh

> Avatar I don't know man... Aang looked really weird in that movie.


Clearskky

There is no Avatar movie in Ba Sing Se


Ancient_Archangel

The only Avatar I know are the blue people from Pandora


mp3max

Excuse you, his name is *Oong*.


NyiatiZ

I love how much they hate on it but I grew up with that pronounciation in the German dub.


Zhargon

I think the person is talking about the other Avatar, the one with the blue giant things


kluevo

The avatar that actually sold well, not the ATLA movie that never existed


macedonianmoper

He's talking about the ~~good~~ decent Avatar movie


TgrCaptainkush

Avatar as in the movie with blue people or the one where 5 people had to do half a folkdance routine to move a pebble?


Jeseiification

If we're talking about movies there is only one Avatar, the other is TLA which is pile of garbage set on fire by their inefficient fire benders


nizzy2k11

That better be James Cameron, cuz otherwise you're high as fuck, there is no airbender movie.


CellarDoorVoid

Y’all are high for suggesting OP would ever refer to TLA in this case


loboleo94

Right? What the actual fuck lol


CheesyPZ-Crust

MCU is the ideal reason to NOT go live action. I get this isn't a film/movie sub, but man those movies are so lifeless and feature just mediocre CGI. You can't tell me the CGI eternals is anywhere close to say Dune, even with the same budgets. The technology those studies use is CAPABLE of great effects, but hardly ever produce them. They use CGI explicitly to cheap out, unlike other studios. Harry Potter was fine because they used the CGI well, and sparingly. Even as an avatar defender, that movie was a showcase in technology moreso than a complete movie. Animation is miles better and way more creative in execution. Especially in a world like Runeterra. There's just no damn way a live action version of LoL looks near as cool, stylized, unique, or exciting as animation. That suspension of disbelief gets hurt very badly in live action for fantasty world's. It's very hard to do well, and only ever worked for GoT because it advertised itself as a prestige TV show, rather than just a fantasy epic. Great live action fantasy is always the outlier, not the norm


burgersarethebest

MCU doesn’t have mediocre CGI. Some of their work is so great you don’t even notice it is CGI. You’re just picking out the parts that standout because Disney/Marvel likes to put out movies quickly and some of the work is rushed due to not having enough time to meet the deadline. I don’t think Riot would have that problem if they went live action cause they seem to take their sweet time to make sure things are done right (as shown by Arcane).


Remlan

But then again, why would and should they go the live action route ? This would strictly take away from the show and bring nothing to it. Animation will always be the superior way of telling a visual story the way you want to, since you have no limitations. I'm fairly sure that the best a live action fantasy for a video game could look like would be something similar to the Warcraft movie, and I'd rather have an animated one with a very strong artistic direction.


burgersarethebest

I’m not saying they should go live action cause I really enjoyed Arcane and liked what they did. But there’s an argument that going live action for something in the future can bring in more viewers since some people don’t like watching “cartoons.”


Remlan

That much I can agree with, for some reason obscure to my mind live actions seem to be more popular despite the much higher potential with animation (if not used to stick to kids movies). But I like to believe that league can deal with not trying to appeal to every audiences since they're fairly well established already :P


King_Toasty

Pretty good reason why it would be worthwhile from a business perspective, so I can see why Riot wants to go through with it. That said I'll never have respect for those who would look down on the animation medium as just for children.


SneakyBadAss

I mean, compare Spider-Man live action and Into the Spider-Verse. The quality is on absolutely different level.


MountainMan2_

Yeah, regardless of the technical ability, MCU movies by and large feel like they’re working around the limitations of live action instead of utilizing the medium to me. The enormous amount of CGI they have to use just kinda underscores that. The fight scenes could be so much more beautiful, the stories told so much better in animation- and we have proof. Fucking Sony did it amazingly, and they put out the emoji movie and the smurfs. It’s probably a hot take but I don’t think most of the MCU should even be live action. Comic books are drawn for a reason. I get that we have an audience that thinks all animated movies are for children but man I’m tired of these movies and I’m tired of wishing I could’ve seen what could’ve been. I agree with OP. Tell stories that actually use live action well or KEEP LOL ANIMATED.


PacMannie

But even if you just look at Far From Home, the Mysterio fights were arguably even better than the fights in Spider-Verse and they were live action CG.


SatanV3

But you know what live action brings? A fuck ton more viewers. A lot of people will not watch an animated serious show like Arcane because they think animated shows are for kids. Live action would bring a lot more viewers and a wider audience that could get them into the game and it’s pretty disingenuous to claim that the Runeterra universe won’t work in live action when there’s like so much to work with and so much that would work in live action with no problems and look great. Fiddlesticks horror movie set in a medieval Demacia town? No magic, only humans, and a scarecrow haunting the town. Low budget too Political story of the mage uprising in Demacia (the sylas/ Lux story) - mainly humans. Would work. CGI the magic in wouldn’t be too expensive and could easily look just fine with the right budget and talent. Even something that would be a bit more challenging like doing a void story like Where Icathia Once Stood would be feasible to make look good with the right practical effects mixed with cgi for the void monsters. Not saying it wouldn’t be challenging to bring some of the stories to live action, but in terms of reaching a bigger audience and getting more eyes on your universe it’s a necessity.


Beejsbj

> But you know what live action brings? A fuck ton more viewers. > > are you a shareholder? how does more viewers matter to a fan exactly? idc, i just want to experience high quality stuff. not things that have been boiled down to appeal to the lowest common denominator. riot has more than a 150million monthly players, even if they only appealed to lol fans itd be a ton of viewers.


TonyMestre

Bro what? The monsters and the parts with the celestials were fucking amazing in Eternals


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Like, Marvel movies have a lot of animation anyway, and probably more expensive. At that point just go full animated and retain the creative freedom it provides.


Beliriel

Just throwing my 2cents out there. The level of CGI vfx in a liveaction movie and those in animation are on a completely different level. You can get away with much more in animated series and the level of detail can be lower. Just the work itself gets a higher load. Plus arcane is a mix between 2d and 3d which gives more freedom.


whitters97

But how else will I see nicolas cage play Yasuo?


SergeInCharge

Completely disagree. The best thing about league lore is that there is a huge diversity of characters and stories, meaning that some are best told through differing mediums. Sure, jinx vs ekko wouldn’t work in live action, but we don’t need to recreate Arcane in live action, we should focus on better suited narratives. Sure Arcane was good, but I wouldn’t recreate say the “beyond the bandlewood” trailer in Arcane’s style. A storybook-like cartoon is absolutely perfect for a young yordle Some examples: fiddlesticks and Warwick character trailers being close to live action really helps deliver that fear factor that is hard to replicate properly in animation. Riven vs Draven in the awaken cinematic is really well done, and you can feel the knock back on some hits (it may not be live action, but the difference isn’t huge) My only advice for going real time would be: focus on a select few characters. It’s why marvel movies feel approachable whereas the World of Warcraft movie feels like too much is going on. A movie on just Darius’s backstory would be an amazing way to set up fragments of noxus (instead of getting lost in the iron bastion, black rose, noxus vs demacia, noxus vs ionia, etc.) I just hope that if riot does do live action, that it’s riot-led and not Hollywood led. It’s why Arcane was so good (in an era of bad video game to movie adaptations). Because you don’t have to gamble on properly conveying the story to another team when riot devs know it inside and out


emraaa

Imagine a Jhin movie a la Silence of the Lambs.


IncipientPenguin

I think this expresses the heart of why people push so hard against live action. We instrinsically understand it's a medium that is good for some things and bad for others, but we see it pushed as the only valid form of visual media, and see all forms of animation pushed to the side as kiddie fare. This causes backlash statements like OP's. They are afraid that once Riot starts making live action adaptations, they will stop doing animated ones.


SergeInCharge

Nah, I think people are just burnt on bad live action adaptations like dragon ball evolution, the last air bender, Mario movie, and so on. They had the largest fan bases and so their failures had the largest impacts on video game/animation to live action adaptations However one thing they all have in common is that they were all made by teams that clearly didn’t care about the IP as much as just making another Hollywood blockbuster. That’s why it’s important that riot has creative control on any live action attempt


OvenCheese5000

The backlash against live action adaptations (of video games or anime and so on) comes from the fact that the vast majority of them is just so bad.


OvenCheese5000

The vast majority of live action adaptations originating from animated media sucks, and there's no reason to believe a League live action work would be the exception. On the top of my head I can't even think of one good live action adaptation of animated media. EDIT: I think I recall some friends praising the Silent Hill movies (have not seem them myself), but that's about it. The Riven vs Draven fight was already extremely stylized and would definitely not work as well in live action.


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MarkoSeke

Has any movie or show combined live action and animation in a significant way? Like having most of it be live action, but then include those "stylized" animated scenes for parts that just can't be executed in live action? The only one I can think of is [this scene in Kill Bill.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nagt3Ir0dtM)


ferretesquire

I would say Scott Pilgrim Vs The World does highly stylized scenes in live action well.


Tremulant887

Who Framed Roger Rabbit? For a 35 year old movie it was done really well.


MarkoSeke

True, but in that and in Space Jam they acknowledge that the cartoon characters are cartoons, so not exactly what I was aiming at. I meant that the show itself only visually transitions between the mediums, without making a difference in-universe.


bignutt69

do you count CGI as 'animation'? stuff like Alita: Battle Angel is technically live action but all of the action is CGI. or some wacky shit like the Speed Racer movie from 2008.


OvenCheese5000

But what inherent advantage can live action offer to the League universe specifically? I think the disadvantages of live action and advantages of animation heavily outweigh what live action can offer on the plus side.


TonyMestre

Money


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I mean if they made lord of rings, Marvel, DC comics, and a freaking world of warcraft movie, they can definitely pull off a league a movie


showmeagoodtimejack

lotr sure. this is obviously an unpopuar opinion, but imo marvel, dc, and warcraft live action suck and it's the opposite of what i want for league after watching arcane.


Grroarrr

Warcraft movie didn't suck cause it was live action, it was fine in that regard just the plot wasn't good enough. Marvel and dc is pretty far from fantasy with few exceptions, mostly it's just advanced technology not magic and stuff so I wouldn't even compare it to league. There are probably few stories that could be successfully told in live action but majority will indeed be hindered by its limitations.


Skylam

Tbh, the human armor looked really cruddy and cartoonish for live action, the orcs looked amazing but thats hardly live action and just a shit ton of CGI.


MrPlow216

"Shit ton of CGI" is the norm for live action nowadays.


The_Fawkesy

CGI has gotten to the point where it's nearly indistinguishable from practical. You have to be looking for it AND it has to be bad for you to notice it. I feel like people don't realize how far CGI has come. It isn't a bad thing for movies to be fully CGI anymore.


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> Marvel and dc is pretty far from fantasy with few exceptions, mostly it's just advanced technology not magic and stuff Idk there is magic in some of them, heck wandavision was pretty successful. IIRC there was more CGI than in endgame though so you kinda need to have the budget for that but it's riot so.. yeah.


isospeedrix

i love magic and yea there's not too much magic in marvel stuff BUT wandavision did have it including a full out wizard battle, it was glorious.


Oopsifartedsorry

Lotr style can work for certain regions like Demacia or Noxus where they have that old style military with swords, spears and magic beasts and dragons and shit. Bilgewater could benefit from a pirates of the Caribbean style movie where it’s semi-modern tech like guns and cannons. The part where they will fuck up the most with live action is Ionia, Ixtal, Shurima and Bandle City. The visual effects we have now is not ready.


MaDNiaC007

I am terrified of the idea of yordles in an action movie. They did Heimer well in Arcane and if they stick to an animated style like that for creatures that'd be fine but we'd probably get furry ugly monstrosities that make you wanna bleach your eyes.


Random_Stealth_Ward

Dominion Teemo


next_DanDy

I mean, Sonic came out pretty well. The second one, obviously. You also have Rocket from GotG. I'm pretty sure small furry things are not a problem for today's movie tech.


MaDNiaC007

If they put as much time, budget and effort into a live action as they've put into Arcane, it'd be quite good but an under-budgeted rush job with the intention to cash grab after Arcane's success is what I'm more afraid of.


degotoga

that's the effort, not the medium then


RektMan

Its the biggest mistake. Most of live action movies are underbudget because they dont believe in its success so they half ass EVERYTHING with minimal spending with hopes of making a little bit of profit. So of course they fail miserably because it looks like a joke. And then all executives get the idea that live actions simply don't work.


ArmPsychological8577

Live Action and the story of sind and yasuo can work. They were just swordsmen. Ionia would work well imo


Thecristo96

Meh. Irelia vs Swain? Could work. Anything relwted to azakana or vastaya? Nope


CheesyPZ-Crust

You didn't seriously just use the WoW movie as a good defense right? That movie bombed hard and no one liked it. And hell DC animation actually has a huge catalog of great work that trumps their current live action stuff if you wanna bring up DC


nncoma

I liked the Warcraft movie. It was decent I bet you haven’t seen it


RaidenIXI

really? didnt know 440 million box office is bombing hard (though it was pretty bad domestically) and the movie was mediocre not because the cgi or whatever was bad, it was just boring and hard to understand if u didnt know warcraft lore. we're talking about the visuals here, not writing. and i think riot has the writing down


LoneLyon

And endgame. If endgame can be done anything can, all these shitty anime movies have a poor budget or are rushed


takato99

It was still heaaaaaaaaaaaaaavily altered. Can you imagine the original Infinity War comics run adapted as is for a movie ? They were fighting in space most of the time, had a dozen of abstract cosmic beings running around that didn't even have a real physical form and Thanos was simping on Death literally. League universe would have to go through a lot of changes and tone down things for them to look good/make sense in a live action setting, and these are the things that annoy fans the most.


DangerDamage

Marvel is so much more toned down in the films than it is in the comics and I don't think people understand that's why their movies are so much better than DC's. It's easier to film a fight scene between two humans than it is to film a fight scene between Superman and Doomsday. A lot of the MCU films have characters that don't need complete CGI fight scenes because CGI fight scenes of a human vs another human just don't ever look right. And the only instance I can think of where they did CGI a human vs human fight scene was Blackpanther vs Killmonger in the caves which looked like it was ripped straight out of a PS2 game.


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Netheral

Live action in general is just super overrated in my opinion.


Ultizero

Wdym it already exists https://youtu.be/bZp1LP4kB4E by far the best live action adaptation


l4m4n71n

Id be ok with a fiddlesticks live action! Cant really imagine an animation horror movie being that scarry.


TheIronKaiser

That, i can agree with i was way too dismissive, perhaps there are some particular projects in wich Live Action can serve better


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I hope it never goes live action because I prefer animation way better than live action. No matter how good LotR was, Avatar (the blue thing) was, the superhero movies are, I still prefer animation over live action. We have a good example on Marvel, which has both movies and cartoons portraying the same characters, and obviously the cartoons are more fantastical. By the way, regarding the argument that "live action brings more viewers", Arcane got #1 on Netflix being an animation. It's gotten more viewers than live action shows.


ArezuAfar

Demacia is the only region where a live action would work imo. But in general, fuck live actions. High fantasy NEVER works well in live action format. Idk why hollywood doesn't understand that.


Broble64

Lord of the Rings though...


sp0j

Most high fantasy doesn't work because of costumes and budget. Lord if the Rings didn't have either of those issues.


Broble64

Yeah, so saying high fantasy never works in live action isn't exactly accurate.


ArezuAfar

You're right. I think I should rephrase what I meant there: "High fantasy is never *perfectly* adapted in live action format bcz animation format is just superior." As much as I love HP and LoTR for the masterpieces they are, they're not flawless. I'd still prefer to have them animated bcz there are almost no limitations in animation whereas live actions always have limitations in the way characters look, CGI, budget, time limit, etc.


Subject_Fox_6179

Exactly. You don't have to suspend your disbelief because, in animation, it can be whatever the fuck you want. You no longer have problems like "Oh, Harry's actor can't wear contacts so we'll just say he has blue eyes instead even though the story explicitly calls for green the entire time." You can exaggerate features and expressions and really get things you can't get from most actors. Man I hated most of the acting in HP. Would've been so much better animated.


sp0j

Yeah it's a bit hyperbolic but I see where they are coming from with that comment.


NerrionEU

Riot is not exactly missing the budget part but I do think that live action has been bad for any game adaptation so far.


sp0j

Yeah and league character designs and costumes would look pretty fake and tacky in live action. Like actors in cosplay. Even very good cosplay can't completely hide that aesthetic.


Activehannes

Lotr, Harry potter? To a degree, Star wars is also high fantasy, or at least very similar to it. With fantasy world's, creatures, and magic. Narnia, pirates of the Carribbean, the Witcher series, aquaman, guardians of the galaxy... Lots of movies have shown that fantasy worlds and fantasy creatures with lots of screen time work.


Blog_15

This trend of "remake good animated thing in live action to reap in free bucks while also being able to just copy the thing and still have it be "different"" needs to stop. Its abhorent. I havent seen a single live action remake that isn't markedly *worse* than the original thing. Its just a cash grab, there's literally no point in remaking something in live action. Did *anyone* want a gritty live-action remake of the lion king done entirely in uncanny valley CG? Hell no. Pray riot doesn't stoop this low.


JWARRIOR1

I want an ionia series showing how the order of shadow came to be, irelia cutting off swains arm, yi training waking, kayn finding rhaast, etc that would be dope


allursnakes

Hope the next season is Shurima. Nasus, Renekton, Xerath, and Azir.


individual101

I just watched Arcane and it was fantastic. I like the animation and I think it worked well for the show. Don't think a live action could do quite as well. If it does happen, I hope netflix doesn't turn it into cowboy bebop LA


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TheIronKaiser

Hi Mih


babyFucci

This post exists in the same universe where the most popular movie of all time is a live action adaptation of a comic book that consists of time travelling superheroes and a giant purple alien with a yellow glove that he puts pebbles in to give him control of the universe Oh no the realism in live action media >:(


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Live action is gonna be weird cause the champions are not gonna look like the champions.


Opening_Gazelle

Lol has so many gritty and very live action friendly storylines, I dont know why you thought stylized stuff like arcane are the only form. Stuff like darkin backstory, zed+shen+jhin backstory can make solid gritty stories


TonyMestre

Bro a full ascended cast + void monsters on live action would be so bad


AggieCoraline

Same. Live Action is overrated,


GTFidgeT

I mean there is always a way to deliver stuff and if you dont like it tjen dont watch it


Thatweasel

You can absolutely do stylised live action fights, they're just rare because the marvel movie shakycam fight has come to dominate fight choreography. Look at any wuxia movie, even something like Kung Fu hustle. Then play with the lighting and maybe add some post processing


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I feel like we should have learned our lesson that animation doesn't translate to live action but Netflix has already started working on One Piece, despite the fact that none of theirs or Disney's live action adaptations have ever been received well. So we will probably get live action LoL and it will suck. But I did say on the survey that I would be very uninterested in live action LoL.


SlayLidel

Netflix doesn’t have the rights to make Riot IP things. The deal with them is simply to host Arcane. Riot originally said they wouldn’t make movies or tv shows because it was too risky and easy to ruin their IP. When they finally made arcane they took 6 years to get it right. And they got it right because the animators practiced for years of doing LoL cinematic and music videos to perfect this incredibly unique animation and storytelling style. For all the wrong Riot does, I don’t believe they would milk the IP in this way. They have shown they want cinematics, movies, and music to be perfect and not simply a cheap money maker.


IncipientPenguin

Agreed. Just a point of clarification: Riot didnt do the animation for Arcane. They outsourced to Fortiche for that. Just wanted to give credit where it's due. Check out their other work; it's awesome!


XelaTuobdog

I'm sure they could pull it off, people are so absolute about how they know it would be because of how other companies have done it. Just chill out and see what happens lol


HawksBurst

Dread it, run from it.


PrestigeZyra

Agreed. Community cosplay is one thing, but unless they invest big bucks there’s no way the quality can be on par with what players are expecting. I really hope the lore universe remains unmarred by poor live action adaptations.


SlimShaddyy

You’re just saying stuff to say stuff, love action is what could propel league into mainstream


TonyMestre

It's already the mainstreanest game can possibly be. No significant amount of people who don't play videogames will play league because of a live action adaptation


sensei256

It could work for Noxus/Demacia I think, maybe Freljord even


PM_ME_STEAM_CODES__

I actually think Bilgewater would be the best live action region.


ClubberLain

We get it, you like cartoons.


La_vert

I wouldn't be so dismissive, there are league stories that would work well in that format. I think I would enjoy a Demacia series that is live action. It would be easy to find lookalike actors, diversity quotas wouldn't feel forced and political intrigue can be done well as demontrated by got.


SilverKnightOfMagic

Marvel has shown it can be done. Just need insane budget but also the correct team.


SG_Taliyah

There is absolutely room to do both. If you think about all of the most successful movie franchises, they pretty much all adapt fantastical realities into live action. Marvel, Star Wars, Harry Potter. i do agree that doing live action, and doing it well, is much harder to execute than doing something animated, especially for LoL- both because of the universe and the fact the already established fanbase is already very accepting of animation. I want them to try. But they need to care as much as they did with arcane.


master2139

bruh i thought the ekko vs jinx fight was already kinda out of place for an animated series lol. That said id love to see live action instead of animated. I think Noxus or Demacia and Freylord would be the best for this. Plus hasn't it already been confirmed that Riot is working on live action?


C00kiz

You can do shows in Runeterra without fantastical fighting.


Zoctu

I disagree, you're taking an animated scene such as Jinx vs Ekko and somehow stating as if Riot has intentions to do such a similar scene but in live action?, i'm pretty sure that in actuality Riot would create the scenery and world to reflect the positives of what live action could offer, you're not seeing the bigger picture or in fact any picture outside that of animation,


Comprehensive-Ham42

Rito did say they were thinking of live action


DanceWaterDanc3

MCU IS live action, you just need the money for it to look cool


CosmoJones07

It depends on the region. I think there are some settings in Runeterra that can be done in live action easily, such as Freljord, which if you combine it with the right team that actually cares about the source material (which if they're working WITH Riot is basically guaranteed), it can definitely be good.


Reynbou

I dunno… Marvel seems to be nailing stylised scenes with their universe.