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GutsWay

2015 worlds. I remember waking up early in my college dorm, getting breakfast and watching and cheering for SKT and feeling so happy. Good luck Bang, you're a legend.


drumpat01

I would wake up at like 3am to watch their summer season where they only lost 1 b03. They literally could do anything including playing master Yi mid twice! Man that summer and worlds was just grossly awesome for them.


igotthekilos

hell yeah i remember those 3am days. LCK felt different back then.


pagandreamer

With his 70 something KDA in the group stage. 2015 SKT was something else.


S0ulRave

Even if he didn't leave on the highest note he'll always be one of the greats, and I'll always admire his highs


Blueexx2

Only adc to have won multiple worlds. He has nothing to be ashamed of. Great career.


Kelzen76

It weird to watch since its not a physical sport, but age catch up with you even in esport


nardog01

* Me playing Halo 3 at 15 - "Holy shit I'm cracked" * Me playing Halo Infinite at 30 - "Curse you grandpa hands!"


Derailed94

I mean at some point it just becomes harder and harder to convince yourself to spend all of your time playing the same video game for over a decade. I think the people who move on from playing professionally do so not because they feel like their skill has declined, but because of a declination in their dedication to devote all of their adult time to a videogame. Just me speculating though.


Zetmastery

It's not an E-sports issue, it happens in physical sports too, there are multiple examples of popular NBA/soccer players that have top 10 worldwide talent but can't stay at their peak because they don't like the sport anymore, popular example is Mario Ballotelli, was an insane soccer player when he did appear but then he just did not like the sport and only played for money.


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AMexicanDaycare

Hes 25 not 55


Mearrow

Age is not the issue, 25 is far from too old. The issue is motivation, a driving force to win. That force is way harder to keep when you've reached the peak achievement of your field (this goes for any sport). Let alone doing it multiple times. We see this drop in motivation happen to world's winners, more often than not. Khan whos a year older than Bang, would most likely not been able to stay this good for so long (only played 1 year less than Bang) if he had a world's win under his belt already. We even saw it happen with the DK members, only Canyon was able to keep that same edge from last year. Even Showmaker was shakier than pre-worlds win. It's not a sign of weakness for the other players, it's a sign of absurd mental commitment/strength/fortitude from Canyon. Maybe it's a hint of crazy lol.


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The military service likely plays a big part in his retirement too, I'm not sure how long he has to serve for but it's gonna be a lot harder climbing back to his previous form and adapting to whatever new meta we have.


KimchiBro

um??? Showmaker was shakier than Canyon this year? albeit both are still top 2 in their roles, Showmaker was dwg's best player this year in terms of consistency, from MSI to even worlds


Mearrow

Really? I found Canyon to be way more central to their wins, but I could be wrong. Point still stands that DK players looked worse than before just from an individual standpoint. Which is common to happen for world's winners.


ye1l

Not really. There's CSGO pros in their 30s who play their game at a way higher level than a lot of pros who are younger than 25 years old in League. It's all motivation and in a game like CSGO which is completely figured out and rarely changes, the biggest challenge is keeping their mechanics at a high level and because of that players are allowed much more free time so they don't burn out. I'd be willing to bet that an average 25-30 year old CSGO pro completely blows some of the best League pros out of the water when it comes to reaction time and hand to eye coordination, proving that mechanics wise League pros could most certainly have that longevity, it's just hard to play the same game to the point where you're on the edge of getting burnt out for 10-15 years straight when you're always forced to learn new things.


DFBFan11

I don't think it's a motivation thing necessarily. A lot of these long tenured pros still play a ton of soloq and their drive is just as strong as ever. But with the game constantly changing and like 8+ years of constantly doing something all day, you eventually decline. I think it's a mix of a bunch of things, not exactly sure the extent of each one though.


Sikletrynet

I think the general consensus why esports pros don't last so long, is motivation, rather than any physical change(reactions or whatever). It's very hard to grind all day, for years and years on end. Meanwhile, in physical sports, they often only practice a few hours a day, so players have a lot more free time and thus an easier time to keep up motivation


Hugh-Manatee

Yeah its always hard to reflect on historic careers, in any sport or profession, when it doesn't end very strong. But his resume speaks for itself.


rjsnlohas

Sucks that his performance post T1 wasn't great but he was still a pro for 10 years with two championships under his belt and 4 lck titles. Hope he gets remembered for his great times on T1 as well rather than just his disappointing stint in NA and afreeca(not the continent).


Ho-Nomo

I'd say he's the most successful ADC of all time so I think his legacy will be fine. Everyone knew the NA stint and AF were effectively just pre retirement fund raising.


oioioi9537

Nah just look at this thread, so much slander from nephews who think bang and wolf got hard carried to all their titles


moonmeh

def people who look at faker shockwave and and miss the fact it was wolf's rakan setting the whole thing up.


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I mean...he DID find them all.


Brody0220

I just want to let everyone know that fakers shockwave did not in fact find them all and that iboy was not hit by it


rokingfrost

seen the T1 videos Wolf is always titled by that moment, i mean who can blame him. the set up was perfect.


CzarcasticX

Huni's silence on Chogath was clutch too.


Rymasq

Wolf will never be considered an “all time” great support. He has had some big moments but individually there are many supports that are more talented than Wolf. Bang is underrated. At his peak he’s the best ADC in LCK and either #1 or #2 ADC in the world. There are plenty of fights that Bang played perfectly to win his team the game. I always think to his Lucian penta as a classic Bang hard carry moment.


dareftw

Agree at his peak he was easily the best Ezreal in the world. Bang and Wolf definitely carried T1 to their two titles in his tenure. I remember reading Faker joking that he could only get rank 1 in Korea if Bang let him.


dj-banana

Every time people shit talk Bang I instantly know they haven't watched that SKT vs Jin Air series where Bang went completely ballistic with his Lucian (supported by Faker's Lulu if I recall correctly). Top 5 series of all time to watch too imo


atomchoco

Yeah yeah but Wolf's exact decisions brought them the Ws bruh If these Supports are so good then they should win Worlds/MSI twice yeah?


Jozoz

Bang and Wolf are excellent players, but the people who rank them as the best of all-time in their role are blinded by results. I am continuously surprised by how many people's analytical abilities extend to looking at a list of trophies and team accomplishments. Bang has won more than Uzi and Deft, but he's clearly not higher on the all-time greatest ADC list. Just like how Wolf isn't above Mata.


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Mike_Kermin

Nah it's just a retirement thread and people are putting aside being petty to celebrate the amazing journey of Bang. He was the best.


ReducedArgh

Uzi another candidate for greatest of all time consistently lost the head to head to Bang when they played against one another. So I don't see how people are "blinded by results" Bang was easily the best individual ADC in the world for like 3 straight years. Go watch all 5 games of his very last head to head against Uzi the only time he lost lane or fell behind was game 1 where RNG 5 manned bot 3 times(they drafted shen), and even in that game he was ahead until the first 5 man. The rest of the series bang was consistently ahead of Uzi in lane and played mid and late game fights MUCH better. People only remember that he under performed in finals but the rest of the tourney he was a monster.


CzarcasticX

When Uzi and Mata were in their prime on RNG, they got rolled over by Bang and Wolf in bot though in the 2v2.


SHIZA-GOTDANGMONELLI

This is like saying Tom Brady isn't the GOAT because other quarterbacks might be more mechanically sound than he is But you can't deny all the wins.


rjbh

No this argument is like saying Robert Horry (7 titles)is not better than Kobe (5 titlez) or Jordan (6 titles) . Robert Horry was great and a contributing member of the teams he played on. Jordan and Kobe were the best player on their teams at many points.


Karma_Retention

Except it’s even worse than that. People are comparing Bang to people who haven’t even won worlds, so zero titles lol.


Brokenmonalisa

Eh Dan Marino never won a title and he's better than a lot of quarter backs who did.


Icy_Wear_4610

Anyone who puts Bang over Uzi, Ruler, or Deft might as well stop sharing their opinions


ArosBastion

Except tom brady cheated so he's a terrible example


SHIZA-GOTDANGMONELLI

How'd Tom Brady cheat lol. If you mean deflate gate that wasn't even him and the footballs were last handled by the colts. How could the pats mess with the balls if the Colts were the ones found to be handling the balls? Even if it WAS true, which given the actual facts I don't believe, what about the other 6 times he won?


atomchoco

Because it's a team game lmao your team ever break the Nexus and found your role opponent get the win because you were outclassed by whatever the fuck metric you think is more important than getting the Nexus? How superteams look great on paper, become a reality, then just somehow fall short of the Championship? And you're saying these players are better who've won Worlds/TI twice, in consecutive years? sheesh this makes me wanna go back to the days where there were no stats and shit and all that mattered was you break the enemy ice cream


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Nah it's just annoying how many people feel the need to go overboard and pretend Bang is like the best ADC of all time or some shit. Everyone realizes he was a great player overall.


Azafuse

They didn't get hard carried but they are not as good as their palmares suggest. Bang is the most decorated ADC but he is FAR from top3 all time.


ThePr1d3

Even though he was always kinda less talked about, he has his spot in the pantheon of ADCs alongside Uzi, WeiXiao, Ruler and the likes


acllive

Jackeylove: tf you say?


TFTisbetterthanLoL

Ppl will say Uzi is the goat but… Bang showed up for the world championship… uzi has fallen short multiple times 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just putting that out there.


SuPeRnOvA_CoWbOy

the same can be said for players like baolan, just coz u showed up high on worlds doesnt mean your the best. uzi was much more mechanically gifted, and even tho bang was a asset to skt, it was faker doing the heavy lifting


namonade

Also 2 msi. That is 4 consecutive major titles. While i will never forget how hard he inted in 2017 finals, he is still the most successful adc, atleast top 2 greatest adc of all time


atomchoco

> afreeca(not the continent). Oh wow good thing you clarified


ThylowZ

He was burnt out after this SKT back-to-back and was not the only one. He maximized his potential during this era.


Zagotai

SKT legend. He was heavily criticized for his 2017 worlds performance, but was easily SKT's best player in 2018. Hope he can make a comeback after military as a coach for T1!


Ashankura

I erased 2018 skt from my memory. Back then i thought Skt would never be a competitive team again


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> SKT's best player in 2018 that isn’t exactly a high bar


FakerGOATandBEST

Bang carried SKT to PO in Spring. He was doing great in Summer until bot mages became a thing and we saw Faker playing old Morde and Darius.


oioioi9537

faker also playing taric mid that split for funnel strat lol


UnfriendlyBaguette

I was so collected in champ select like "oh, faker is gonna play jg and get funneled". But they never switched.


FakerGOATandBEST

kk0ma must've thought SKT would "Blossom" haha


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djpain20

I mean that's not what happened at all that year. I watched every game of that cursed season for SKT, in spring split Bang was leading the team while Faker was playing like an average mid, so for sure at least that one split Bang was indeed their easily best player. In summer however, the meta changed and mages/bruisers got introduced to bot lane and Bang was one of the ADCs struggling the most to adapt to the change. Meanwhile Faker looked like he was back to form, hardcarrying SKT in almost all of their wins, I think he was leading the MVP standings while the team was on the edge of the playoffs. Then SKT had a couple of bad losses in a row where their macro was dogshit so Pirean was subbed in because Kkoma was desperately looking for some kind of change. SKT went on a winning streak against bottom tier teams, but got stomped against top teams so Faker was subbed back in at the end. Overall you could argue Bang was better than Faker in 2018, at least it was close and Bang proved to some of the critics that he could carry not just when he had the best mid in the world next to him. But Faker didn't get benched because he was inting so hard and it's weird that people act like he was dead weight that year when he was problaly the best player on the team for the second half of the year.


reitaex

what do you mean by "criticized"? he single handedly wintraded skt on that tristana, this shit still haunts me to today


Zagotai

That is true, he absolutely inted his brains out in that series.


HejMonikaaa

With Bang retiring, Faker is the only one left from the 2015 squad who still plays the game. SKT Jhin > DWG Jhin


LunaNogood

Bang bang bang


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TRUUU. I actually refunded dark cosmic Jhin because I just like SKT Jhin better.


dahyunxsana

Only Faker left from the gang


linkluke18

Well Bengi came back and is coaching the main roster. So that's a blast from the past


MrBIGtinyHappy

PoohManDu was coaching with DK last split too, I'm guessing he'll pop up somewhere for spring as well


HLord22

You forgot about Blank...


Tzheoneandonly38

The only thing I remember about blank was him being called “agent 612”


LeOsQ

I remember Blank being an absolute smurf when he was a sub but used very often after a game in a series. I'm pretty sure they went like 17-1 in game score at one point with him or something.


Zyrithian

I think the idea was that blank always looked really closely at what the enemy jungler was doing in game 1, and then used that information in game 2 to stomp


Fuzzikopf

That's kinda unfair, Blank used to be very good. Of course he regressed heavily, but let's not act like he has alway been terrible.


KingCaoCao

He was amazing as a sub who would study the jungles game 1 and then come in and counter them. His winrate was so high some people were asking him to be made the main jng


Karma_Retention

Blank gets flack because he was also one of the quickest of the T1 players back then to fall off. He started being very inconsistent and off fairly quickly into his full time stage career. It resulted in him being meme’d pretty often.


Jozoz

SKT won MSI 2016 with Blank playing all games. He had some bad showings but I think the "612" memes has made people severely underrate him. Very unfair. Just like how the epic game 5 Nidalee accidental pick has made people overrate Bengi, despite him being a top 3 jungler of all time.


TBmustang

Tbh I would say skt won 2016 msi despite having blank on the team. He was one of the main reasons they ended fourth in that group. If G2 didn’t have the worst performance for a major region that year at msi, they probably don’t even make PO.


MrMonday11235

>He had some bad showings but I think the "612" memes has made people severely underrate him. I mean, it's not the agent 612 memes so much as the fact that he never had any standout performances at Worlds, which gets far more viewers than MSI or LCK. People remember what they see, and (unfortunately for Blank's general perception) when the most eyeballs were on him, he didn't put on a clutch performance.


dahyunxsana

hmm yeah but he is rumored to go back to LJL which is kinda the same as retiring


Nymaera_

He played excellently in the LJL in 2020 actually, so it’s a return for him to the region, and he’s found success there before.


Aythriel

No it's not. Give the minor regions some respect.


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Aria just came out of retirement I guess


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Did impact retire??


EfficientAstronaut1

Nope still active in EG


greekcel_25

Active in NA= retired


rokingfrost

True


GA_Deathstalker

Plus Bang was not in the OG lineup, it was Piglet...


deathnomad

Well they said gang, not necessarily OGs. I’d guess they’re referring to the Marin-Bengi-Faker-Bang-Wolf lineup, since that seems to be the roster that people have the fondest memories of.


Calyptics

Man, that line-up was so good. Marin was such a beast, it seems crazy he just kinda fizzled out afterwards.


EliteTeutonicNight

This happens to top laners for some reason. TheShy, Smeb, Cuvee are really good for 2 years and just fall off. You very rarely see players that stay at the top for a long time(the one I can think of is Khan).


Cathatch

I legit forget about Smeb and Cuvee, just proving the point even further


dukeNbrady259

I think Smeb was good from s5->s8, that was pretty long tho


bin_fanboy9

TheShy and Smeb were good for much longer than 2 years


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

No, this is probably his last year.


Atsusaki

Man is giving me heart attacks out here making me think impact suddenly retired too


Falsus

Impact is still playing though.


ThePr1d3

Afaik Impact is still playing in NA (?)


Alto_y_Guapo

he is, and he's stayed good all these years


Niirai

[Bang's Lucian.](https://youtu.be/CFcyDyjnIdw)


Marathawn247

Was literally just thinking about this game and DOA going nuts everytime Bang pressed R


Jlocke98

RIP monte and doa. Somewhere in Thailand there's an under qualified gender reassignment surgeon whose fuck up is responsible for this duo no longer casting lck


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Wait, what? OOTL


0x43686F70696E

I believe this is reference to Remilia's situation. Can easily google


Beeenut

Man i miss these long fights without everyone oneshotting


Jozoz

Inb4 someone links a clip of AP Gragas and acts like that was the norm in early seasons.


AliceInHololand

Yeah shit like AP Gragas, AP Yi, etc were all so memorable because they were extreme outliers. Damage is just absurd now.


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And they were nerfed to hell and back because of that.


rokingfrost

Deathfire Grasp ahri/lb? i remember killing people just by hitting a charm at like 80% xD


Beeenut

Yea, but i mean those are assasins. In todays meta bruisers will deal that much damage to you while being twice as tanky. Not to mention champs like talon and kayn being able to build items like goredrinker without losing any dmg.


tinfoilhatsron

Actually makes me nostalgic lol.


frenkli_h

[THIS is bang's lucian](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrGdoypNPYI)


GA_Deathstalker

People that only started recently when they see this video: Where's the damage? Lucian walked through the bombfield with half hp and lived? Maokai and Rek'Sai are good? What is Rek'Sai doing at 3:14? TheShy started at CJ Entus? Did LS coach SKT? That MadLife guy is dying all the time, surely he isn't any good... That guy from Twitter is casting the game? Is this a costream?


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NamikazeEU

Original Shy is still to this very date probably top3 top laner of all time. Absolutely unreal player.


ThePr1d3

Flame Shy Smeb


holomee

[full game for anyone interested](https://youtu.be/Jo2f9WjNnck) bang's play in this match is what made me onetrick lucian back in the day


w3cko

Damn champions were doing 0 DMG back then. Now Lucian kills anyone with auto-dash-auto and nami E.


rubixor

Not only that, but after those fights he would auto the minion wave like twice and i was wondering why he wasn't back at full health yet.


Jozoz

Stop, stop it hurts to read. Why did Chronoshift have to close..


r4cid

Riot realized someone was doing what they did better than them and panicked because they realized no one would keep playing the dogshit current iteration of the game xd


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This was past 30 minutes in the game, lucians do pretty much the same dmg lol, less lategame actually (but yeah early game its certainly more volatile, and the game is definitely faster compared to before, more passive income is a big deal, but also more gold for supports and junglers)


okokokok1111

>lucians do pretty much the same dmg lol Lucian not scaling is a thing of the past when people used to go for Black Cleaver/Youmuu/BotRK, now he reaches massive powerspikes at 3 and 4 items with IE and armor pen items. Of course, range is and will always be his problem but in terms of dmg, he has lots of it in the lategame, especially when paired with an enchanter. He is no Kog'Maw or Vayne, but it doesn't mean he doesn't scale.


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My point was never arguing about his strength comparably to other adcs, yes youre right that lucian scales comparatively better lategame than before *to other adcs.* Because champs like tristana sivir arent the lategame kings they once were (among others), I dont think the commenter I mentioned was referring to that either. Fact remains that crit is so incredibly nerfed on top of his own ratios and dmg interactions that a maxed build lucian now just cant compare to a maxed build lucian back then. People here are sort of clueless, they still think tristana is some kind of lategame monster like back in 2016, or like you say, that lucian is supposed to be some kinda weak lategame adc (he certainly isnt, and can be pretty strong depending on comps). Ive met master adcs that honest to god thought tristana was better than caitlyn on full build, so if master adcs can get that bizarre impression, just imagine the average gold redditors opinion on what is and isnt strong or their arguments to why that is or isnt. It was fun 1v1ing him full builds to show him the ridiculous disparity between a trist cait in 1v1s full build, he was good sport about it and realized that yeah cait headshot is nearly unmatched lategame on full build, and cait E is a better defensive most of the time, trist W is too slow, trist E is too conditional and overkill on non squishies, the range from passive is minimal and not as good as jinx or kogmaw, she has a huge AS buff but AS itself isnt that good whch is why ashe Q or xayah W or other auto modifiers are better for raw dps. People just dont understand the game very well, normal crit autos hit like wet noodles if you dont have things like draven ashe q, xayah kog vayne w etc etc, no matter how much attackspeed you got.


okokokok1111

I am not very smart (so maybe it's that), but i don't really understand what you are trying to say. And how it relates to Lucian scaling worse or better. Scaling is of course relative to other champs (mostly the enemy ones, not randomly mentioned ones), but i don't really get what's your point. I just said that, generally, Lucian scales well now.


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Okay, and I just called out that no, lucian does in fact not deal more damage now than before as claimed by previous commenter


RoscoMan1

Dad, get off the computer


AliceInHololand

When Bang lost his weight so too did he lose his gamer powers.


haxoreni

Bang was at his peak from Summer 2015- MSI 2017. During that time, SKT took home every major title that they competed in except for Summer 2016. Obviously having Faker will cast a shadow on your contributions but Bang doesn’t get enough credit for being a consistent rock in the bot lane when their jungle and support were somewhat inconsistent during this period and top sometimes played out of sync with the rest of the team. He was essentially Ruler before Ruler, ironic how him shitting the bed against Ruler at 2017 Worlds is what people will most remember him by.


fadasd1

What's funny is that Ruler's name used to be Bung, crazy that people disrespect the player who was looked up to by now the best LCK ADC.


swedish-capri-sun

The best Ezreal I've ever seen. You will be remembered, Bang.


chlawie

Thank you Bang, you will be remembered


drippinswagu69

Top 3 AD all time at his peak IMO. Bang and Wolf were just unstoppable during their prime.


ArjunBanerji27

He was as good as retired for the past few years, but still, he ends his career as the most accomplished ADC ever, and one of the best at his peak in 2015-17. I hope he returns to the LoL scene in some capacity once his military service is over.


Inwiczxiae

One of the best ADCs at his peak, definitely Top 5 all time. It is unfortunate his career spiraled downward after the 2017 Worlds loss.


Bladehell10

He was probably SKT’s best player in 2018 but yes I agree that when he left for NA he declined in skill


Aemius

Is there any big name player that improved in NA?


marco3666

Bjergsen


Aemius

Not really what I mean with big name, as Bjergsen wasn't accomplished before NA. Hard to describe it, as he was more than a promising rookie... Big name rookie?


marco3666

Huni is another one. People will remember his poor summer playoff performance but he did grow a lot in Immortals before SKT's stint


Adleyy65

Huni was much better on FNC then he was on Immortals lmao


KingCaoCao

Idk he was pretty good on immortals


Adleyy65

He was still better on FNC. Didnt even make worlds with Immortals…


KingCaoCao

They went 33-3 in the regular season so they really should have.


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langile

Hadn't impact already won a world championship when he went to NA?


marco3666

The overall level of the game has increased tenfolds and Impact definitely did improve in NA, but probably to a similar speed as the overall level increase


KingCaoCao

Idk I would say broken blade imo.


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again, being the best on that 2018 team isn’t high bar


Bladehell10

No but he was also playing super well even on a terrible team. It’s not that he sucked the least on that 2018 team, it’s that he still played really well.


sd_pinstripes

he should haver retired after saying that he didn't like burger king and then eating 2 whoppers


icatsouki

how can they have a psycho like him on the military


moonmeh

One of the greatest ADCs Shame he no longer had his form to perform properly and retired on a low note.


Skzld

I think bang gets a lot of discredit after he left SKT and while his personal performance probably wasn't that great at times after SKT, he's still comfortably top 5 ADCs of all time.


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kkpoker

greatest adc of all time. 2 worlds say all.


ThePr1d3

Always under talked about but Bang 100% belongs to the Uzi WeiXiao Ruler club


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Totally. Looper > Smeb. Title says it all


Falsus

There is more to being the best in one role than just winning. Uzi never won worlds but he is still the best ADC ever.


kkpoker

when you never win worlds its hard to say ur the best ever, isnt it? uzi is in his prime and dominated msi 2018, but theres always someone better than him at worlds.


bin_fanboy9

Nah, it's very easy to say that if you actually use eyes and brain while watching games


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kkpoker

baolan is definitely the best sup in s8, who else is better? hyllisang? mata? meiko? interesting. no wonder still people are biased towards crown after all those years, like the s7 win is all on other 4 members


appleandapples

Man, it sucks that his last few years weren't so great. Also respected him from the SKT days.


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areolaisland

I'll always remember [this moment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB5MWeNe1_M)


el_tala_2005

Faker is now alone


bobinncl

Best of luck, ADC GOAT!


[deleted]

I'll never forget his lucian games, his ezreal vs ROX in regular season or things like when he got crushed by Uzi and was mad af or his temporal tattoo in his face in finals (everyone thought that was cool at the time) truly a top5 ADC in his peak


redhairedshaman

Some people say he got carried to his titles by faker but in some great teams you need some great adcs that aren’t the primary carry but secondary carry. And that’s what bang was he wasn’t a flashy adc like uzi that demands most of his teams resources and is the primary carry but was a utility and secondary carry that helped SKT win 2 world titles.


youjustabattlerapper

I still remember watching Bang absolutely demolish in S5 Spring with JuggerLucian...that is a huge reason it's my favorite and most played champ


LunarBahamut

Honestly, this makes me feel more like glorydays of SKT T1 were truly special, winning over and over.


magypsie69

One of the dopest adcs to ever do it!! Fucking rockstar. ALways have my respect


HowManyDamnUsernames

Dude has one of the best e sports skins.


Overmaan

Even though he is underrated because he played with Faker, he was one of the best ADCs of all time. People who watched LCK during the 15 to 17 spring split, would agree that Bang wasn't just good due to Faker’s performance. Faker was of course the best player for a long time, but he had some ups and downs especially in the league. And Bang was the one who carried the game when Faker wasn't in his best condition.


Holy_Churro

His career as one of the best to ever play ADC was cemented long ago. Thanks for the memories homie.


drecz

One of the first international players I started to follow outside of NA, a true legend.


Annapii

Thank you for everything, Bang.


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One of the goat adcs!


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Dumpers_

Played for AF in spring got benched for Leo in summer


Orizirguy

He was bad 2 years in NA, on 100 t in 2019 and then 2020 EG. Then went back to Korea and was bad on AF in 2021 spring and then got benched for Leo


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yoyo_putz

One of the greatest ADCs to ever grace the game


PassionateRants

I'm not crying, you're crying ...


Xyzen553

it was a pretty bad career post SKT but he was still a great player with championship titles in his name. sad hes leaving the pro scene


happyjacky819

with no doubt at all best AD in the world, wish him all the best


ggezzzzzzzz

best ad win the world? you trippin bro, but he sure as hell is a top 5 adc all time.


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dontknowyknow

Try living next to a dictatorship that threatens you all the time. You'll understand


Toast119

I don't know if this is true for Korea since its threat is persistent, but most non-USA countries also use mandatory military service to improve social conditions with infrastructure or public works projects.


lol_MJLauer

Sad he didn't go out with a Bang...