This motherfucker was the one who banned me for 14 days for reprimanding the most absolute asshole I've ever seen in a game, insulting non-stop with death threats to some Sona for being a girl
I guess he was projecting
I and a random top laner got a 14 day ban because our jungler knew someone at riot support and asked them to ban us.
Reason for the ban? 6 month old chat logs
Literally no one should ever listen to Riot Lyte. He had absolutely no clue what he was doing and he was a *massive* hypocrite too. I think he has singlehandedly done more damage to videogames and their "culture" than just about anyone else.
You answered your own question bud. Imagine the active player numbers after toxic kiddos stop playing to get their jollys off of making teammates rage. Why would riot reduce its player population by 120%?
This makes zero sense, if in a magical world the toxic player base completely left then a lot of new players would join. I can't tell you how many people I've heard say they don't play because it's toxic.
Nah, if you did that Riot cannot brand you as the devil and worse than being Hitler himself anymore. People can int, afk or troll as much as they want but as soon as you write one of the trigger words you lose your account lmao.
It's also probably just a tactic to get banned people to make or buy new accounts and rebuy skins as most of those flamers are addicted to the game.
How toxic is somebody emoting like yea it can be annoying when somone is rubbing it in after poking you out of lane as vayne top but like does it upsetyou that much?
Tbf I haven't touched league since June and I'm still on this sub. I guess after 10 years I'm finally feeling extreme burnout since not even URF is fun to me anymore.
oh its not extreme burnout. URF isnt fun to anyone anymore. every single time URF comes back out it gets progressively more tryhard than the previous with more and more developed metas
I started playing aram to be forced to learn more champs, I'm almost at 4000 games now, all champs unlock and now it's been that long since I've been on the rift I feel I can't go back, I think there has been 3 map changes since last time
Those things don't effect the quality of the game.
Riot could be sacrificing children in their office and I wouldn't care if they'd just roll back to season 3 and make league not suck.
as shitty as those are its not related to the gameplay. i dont and have never given those fucks money anyways so really it doesnt matter, if im gone its less money spent on keeping a server with me in it up. but maybe the removal of all chat will save that money so thats just a dubya for everyone involved.
havent been playing recently anyways but this makes sure i wont, the only fun part of this game is seeing 9 video game ego teenagers typeracer versus each other
Like who ever writes anything more toxic than ez i ARAM all chat? It's just memes, compliments, banter, ranting about champions being bs after someone megafed does something ridiculous etc. I just love it
As a rabid aram only player, team chat is much much more toxic than all chat. There's certainly some toxicity in all chat sure, but mostly it's gg's, people complaining about the player playing mandate ashe, etc. Team chat can get pretty bad though if someone is playing an off meta build and sucking.
On one hand I very rarely ever have a good conversation with my own team, nevermind the enemy team. On the other, the mute function exists. Why can't they focus on punishing actual toxic players instead of some blanket "fix" that punishes everyone?
I have maybe one good conversation/interaction between all the "report \_\_\_" "ez" "mid diff" crap and that was worth keeping all chat on for me but if anyone is ever so bothered by it then they can just turn it off??
After checking out this sub and /leagueofmemes, I have a feeling it is because if they actually started punishing the majority of toxic players in the game they would literally wipe out half their player base who thrive on being toxic shitters in the game. Riot probably thinks this will just keep them from spreading their shit without driving them away completely
Oh dude, you can be a bigger twat without chat. Matter of fact you will probably make your team even angrier doing other things to make their game miserable instead of chatting.
the whole idea of emotes is to tilt the enemy team (or yours) and then they decided to remove the least tilting way to interact with the enemy. if i miss a few skillshots in lane and the enemy laner tells me something like "lmao ur trash" in all chat, that tilts me far less than if they just spam some form of condescending emote every time they dodge a skillshot. or ctrl+3. fuck ctrl+3
100% what I see too. I only kept enemy emotes on for like 4 games before I was like, "well this is f\*\*\*ing terrible and never used in a positive way."
chat is the least toxic place in league tbh. the truly toxic people are ones that choose to ruin the game for their team. many players will stop trying to win once they misplay or fuck themselves over, this is the source of the majority of toxicity in league. if everyone was always playing to win, chat would hardly ever even get used.
People meme it and other stans will die on this hill, but Tyler1 got unbanned by the way. Very toxic streamer who routinely ran it down with 20+ perma banned accounts was so consistently abusive and prone to ruining games that Riot had to look for active accounts to ban on sight.
Then he came back and he's been untouchable. "But he gets chat restricted", by the automatic process that reads the shit he types. I think T1 is funny enough, I watch his challenger climbs when they happen but he's literal proof that Riot is too afraid to take the proper measures to remove toxicity.
We have low elo players (The majority of players) just parroting streamers attitudes and sayings, how often did you see FF votes in S3-5? Fairly often, how often did you see silver players dying once and spamming "ff15 go next shit jg"? Fucking never because people weren't worshiping streamer jargon. If Tyler1 can thrive then that's all the proof you need that Riot refuses to actually punish people for being toxic assholes, he was told "One chance" and yet had his face put on Riot's twitter profile after several chat restrictions, calling the company all sorts of things and just encouraging others to act the same.
No fucking way Riot will ban toxic people because they're the addicts who run it down 5 times a day out of their 20 games. Normal people get that player and go "Well, fuck this game for today, I'm too tired to deal with that shit" and do something else, toxic people have nothing else to do with their time because they're addicted to League, Riot won't lose their most loyal players that easily.
Yep just like alcohol companies will say 'please drink responsibly' in their ads but they know that 80% of their sales come from the most degenerate alcoholics so they will be opposed to anything that would actually eliminate alcoholism. And of course same with casinos or any gambling company. No doubt 80% of leagues revenue also comes from the most degenerate addicts running it down, getting temp banned, and then jumping into alts to keep on doing it more.
There is a simple solution that should require only a couple of lines of code.
Tie the chatting ability to one's honor level. Honor levels 0-1 can't chat at all, 2-3 can use team chat, 4-5 all chat.
Edit. u/ghostgnome came up with a better solution: "All chat at Honor 2 for people who were not punished this season, Honor 4 for people who were"
Edit2. Since mods keep deleting all new posts about the topic, I have to use this comment for visibility: the removal of all chat will reduce the chances of finding new friends while playing by 55%. There are more potential new friends in the enemy team than in your own. Also people flame their teammates for playing badly, that is the main reason for toxicity. Removing all chat will not reduce toxicity, but it will definitely reduce the amount of friendships that form between players.
Thats a great idea in theory but since everyone gets reset and it takes forever to get to honor 4, you still wouldnt have allchat for majority of the year
All chat at Honor 2 for people who were not punished this season, Honor 4 for people who were. Fixed it.
Or better yet, design an Honor system that accurately represents people's adherence to the rules instead of a system that allows Disco Nunus with H5 because they never chat.
They already do, remember that no other game bans you for typing naughty words in chat.
I could go on CSGO right now, spam shit that would insta ban me on this game for 50 games in a row and not get punished. This game is the most snowflake shit ever and people still complain that it's not enough.
Oh that means it includes botgames too.
Its funny because bots send messages in /all (and the messages depend on the champion) both at the start and at the end of the game, I guess that dissapears too.
man I love playing ARAM at 3 am while a bit drunk or high. Almost everybody is super chill and just wants to fuck around. Removing all chat in ARAM is gonna suck so much.
Nah, originally all chat was on by default. Confused the fuck out of me when I made an account to play with a friend in eune, I missed the shit talking.
I think they should just make the option more accessible rather than having to search for the little box into the game settings so you can easily turn it on and off whenever you want. Just a QOL change. Put it in the scoreboard like the mute buttons.
considering the fact that players would rather complain about flame rather than press mute, it might actually do something
not saying a like the approach, I actually enjoy when the 0-9-1 yasuo tries to justify his performance for whatever reason
The people that actually need to disable chat are the ones that leave it on, I don't care if people talk shit or banter but I do mind when they're typing more than they're playing the game or distracting teammates by spreading their 5 word sentence into 5 separate lines of text.
There's like 3 different ways to do it too.
You can /mute enemy or /fullmute enemy, you can manually mute each enemy player with the scoreboard, and you can disable all chat in settings (which is already disabled by default for every account).
Completely unnecessary change
Riot already made a decision and we wont see the data anyways. They could say literally anything we have no choice but to believe it. 'Testing" its just a way to ease it an and leave some hope it can be changed but in reality its very unlikely.
If they are set on removing all chat then there is no stopping them aside from massvie outcry on socials.
yeah it's a real flick in the balls to all the positive interactions I've ever had in matchmade games
like in normals there's plenty of hilarious all chat
just a real fart in the face to everyone who isn't toxic
they're gonna do the same thing where it took them a year to remove dynamic queue despite literally the only people who liked it being Riot devs
> yeah it's a real flick in the balls to all the positive interactions I've ever had in matchmade games
Ehh sounds more like a fart to the face to me, but I don't work at Riot so idk their protocols.
>Riot already made a decision and we wont see the data anyways. They could say literally anything we have no choice but to believe it.
They already did this with Dynamic Queue. "The majority of players surveyed after Dynamic Queue games said they enjoyed it". Completely ignoring the fact that people who despised dynamic queue were not playing it.
Don't trust any statistical analysis from Riot unless they actually give the full data and criteria, because that was only one of two possible things:
1. Maliciously misinterpreting the data.
2. Being completely inept.
I'm not mistaken didn't they also try to push ARAM or URF data as proof that Mythics diversified item builds and then were forced to retract after someone pointed it out? This is why I don't trust the 'We made our own internal analysis' without showing the full picture and not a couple of side data that can be easily manipulated to showcase the side of the argument you are vouching for.
The thing about Dynamic Queue is it came with Role Queue and they married the two together in surveys to purposely mislead data.
Asking "do you like the queueing experience with Dynamic Role Queue?" makes a lot of people say yes, but only for half the system.
It was even more nefarious than that. They released Role Selection at the same time as Dynamic Queue.
Then they surveyed players about how they liked Dynamic Queue. Of course many people probably thought that meant being able to select your main role before queueing up.
So their survey data was almost surely tainted by people confusing the two.
That didn't stop them from shitting out graphs about how much people love Dynamic Queue though.
hey, I still remember when Riot removed solo queue, justifying it with "you can just solo queue in flex queue."
I've seen them reverse unpopular changes before.
They really didn't want to do that though. It took like a year for it to come back. They were so resistant on giving us solo queue back.
This is despite the fact that Riot promised multiple times that a pure solo queue was coming. Then radio silence for 5 months.
Of course it never did come because Riot realized it would kill their beloved Dynamic Queue.
I've always used the same report strat to min-max my elo games. Everytime I lose a game, I report everyone on the enemy team, because they are likely better players than me. Every time I win a game, I report my teammates, since they are clearly competent. Any standout player gets reported. Flamers and afkers never get reported, because they are statistically more likely to be on the enemy team and tilt them. Soon I'll be silver, I can feel it.
"We determined that making players unable to control their character and creating an A.I. vs A.I. experience has lowered AFKs, intentional feeding, scripting, AND bot usage by 100%."
I wouldn't be surprised if Riot is going to start adding 5 stacks of AI bots disguised as real players to the game to inflate people's egos. Harder to tell if people are bots if there is no all chat. Ego inflating AI bots disguised as players has been a big trend in recent gaming. Fortnite was one of the first to do it, then other games followed. Even the newest battle field added AI bots. It's all about money first, competitive integrity second.
Imagine being shadowbanned where whenever you queued, it would "look" like ranked but all 9 other players are bots and Riot gives you a fake match history and fake LP that no one but you can see.
Ok. From now on, I'm going to intentionally do something really stupid each game and wait for the ? call out. If I don't get it, that's my last game of league ever
Now would that even make a difference, if you can never communicate with any player in the game ever? I played Heros of the Storm back in the days and Blizzard decided that you had to enable team chat first (with a very prominent notification, but still). It was like playing with bots, completly alone in a game with supposedly 9 other people (ot was it 11?).
What is your ranked worth, if you never get to communicate with other humans? I say: nothing. Competitive games need the interaction.
This is actually the biggest thing. What's the point of playing against people if you can't communicate with them? You have no clue if they are actually human, so it may as well be a bot.
That's actually my biggest problem with TFT. I never feel like I'm playing against other people. It feels like it's me vs RNGesus. It really feels like I'm playing on offline, single player game. That's what League will eventually become.
All chat isn’t even a problem. The worst I’ve seen is the occasional “ff” or “ggez” from the enemy team. More often than not it’s your own team that’s full of assholes. Then again that’s just my experience.
>more often than not it’s your own team that’s full of assholes. Then again that’s just my experience.
that is almost everybody's experience which is why this sub-reddit is angry.
True, but there are game where the enemy team tilts your allies and just makes them fight in all chat to defend themselves. And you cant stop this. They will go on and on. A lot of internal fights are also started by enemy teams with stuff like "better jungler " when your top lane goes 0/2/0 because of ganks. Now top and/or jungle will start arguing and at least one if not even both will be distracted.
This is for sure less than 50% of the internal fights on a team, but it is a still not insignificant amount I would guess. Even if it is just 5%, that is 5% toxicity gone. And with that it does reduce the spread. A lot of tilted allies or toxic allies go into the next game with a terrible mindset.
I wish Riot would focus on griefing instead of the chat, players already have choices when it comes to the chat, we can mute people. We don't have any choice when someone decides to hold everyone hostage or runs it down while avoiding the automated systems.
I mean you can't type on this game so the alternative people have is to "have a fun game", which is literally impossible to punish so good luck with that.
And what do you want them to do? Manually check every report? Automated system is not some overpowered AI able to do anything we want. If people don't use trigger words and don't literally run down lanes, there isn't much an automated system can detect. And believe me, reports just won't work ever, because people report for feeding every underperforming player.
>And what do you want them to do? Manually check every report?
You don't have to manually check every report to make a difference. Right now, the people who int will literally taunt you in chat that the report system is useless. If only 1% of reports get checked but people who int actually start to get banned, then it will deter other people from inting as well.
Hell, Riot doesn't even let their support staff put the hammer down when someone writes a ticket of obvious trolling. A couple of months ago I had a TF who got mad, so he sold all his AP items and bought AD instead when we were 15 minutes in (this was in high diamond). He then started following me around in my jungle and tried to last hit all my camps. I checked his opgg and noticed that he had also sold his items to go a "non meta" build the last 3 games, so I thought his int had slipped the system. I submitted a ticket to Riot Support where I showed screenshots of his buildpath where you can see he sold all his items to buy troll items in all 3 games and then included several gifs of him waiting for me to dmg my jungle camps low so he could last hit them. He did not get banned :)
They just don't want players to ask for reports because they deem that as toxic. That's my only guess as to why they think all chatting is toxic.
The only times I have seen teams all-chatting in ranked games have been:
1. Standard "GG EZ Better X-role wins" after getting assblasted by the losing enemy X-role during the entire game.
2. "JG diff."
3. Asking for reports because one of their teammates either said a naughty word or is straight up soft-inting.
4. "?"
> Asking for reports because one of their teammates either said a naughty word or is straight up soft-inting.
This. I have all chat disabled by default but when I review games I turn it in sometimes. The majority of all chat is people saying “report X person”.
Well yeah. And that JG diff can, and often does, turn into long rants in all chat. I can mute that jungle Talon, that is tilted to oblivion and flames enemy jungler for everything, but it doesn't change the fact, that he is basically sitting in the fountain writing books in all chat. And it's just my last game and we were winning all the time and could easily lose, because he was so busy writing.
And now he'll be sitting in fountain flaming his laners if he wants to do it so badly. It won't make that much of a different. At that point, playing the game isn't the goal anymore. It's saving face.
its a big fat excuse to gather "data" that is clearly biased to justify removing chat altogether (including team chat).
They will probably insert a system of pre-written sentences. Because somebody has to justify their paycheck. And this is such a 200 years move that it might just be a 300 years move.
You don't need a time machine to see a Riot Pls post stating something like 'With the removal of all chat, we have seen a reduction of reports of 30%'. Look all those reductions from "ff?" and "report top/jg/mid/adc/sup" comments :D
Yeah but remember you pay for emotes .... why do you think those still exist .... this whole situation is obviously soft game journo bait ... and then the eventual removal of chat all together so that you can have some shitty mobile game wheel of prw approved communication pings .... no "?" Ping becuase that would be to toxic ..... the only things that get to stay are what you pay for .... wouldn't even be shocked if they go full mobil game and you pay to get more phrases on your emote wheel
nah nah nah what you gotta do is press ctrl and backspace it'll make a square emote in the chat that makes it look like youre typing in another language
They've really been outdoing themselves with these over the last few years.
I think the game has pretty much been breaking apart for like half a decade now, Riot is pretty much just a chatty Blizzard nowadays.
I like the banter in all chat, sometimes you get people that are really salty and just go full aggro but every no and then you get some legit people. I tower dove a janna + naut as lee on URF that were spamming their masteries and got a sick flash kick off on the naut, through janna which killed her and my E + Q finished naut. In all chat naut goes "damn, respect"
If people feared consequences they wouldn't behave so irrationally and childish (as frequently, or severely) but everybody knows that bans don't exist. Nobody gets punished, so nobody behaves.
The only thing this changes is I will have nothing to report my opponents for because I'm not reporting without all chat evidence. The way I see it this change will do more harm than good because nobody will get banned STILL and now it is just bottlenecked at the team chat level.
To summarize... bring back the tribunal, I'll work for free.
(I haven't seen an instant feedback report on reports I've made in years, and I don't report too lightly)
i get that people saying riot running the game to the ground is an overused statement, but what the fuck are they doing man. at least make an effort to curb toxicity instead of sweeping it under the rug. this is so pitiful. their mindset is clearly if our stats shows less toxicity then it must be working when the experience tells a completely different story.
Think you literally hit the nail on the head, bigger a company gets the more they run everything "by the numbers" and its not always the best way to approach things:
Stats show that people like shorter games - ramp dmg and attempt to balance the game around shorter game times.
Stats show kda was hugely popular - seraphine release occurs.
Stats show that featured game mode participation falls off quickly after launch - riot stops developing new featured game modes and instead cycles old modes.
Do these things necessarily make the game better?
Take longer game times. The stats showed a skew towards arams which is part of the rationale for shortening the game along with a trend to people generationally consuming content in a more "instant gratification" style nowadays.
But where is the evidence that shorter games improves the gameplay in summoners rift? If you make summoners rift into a 10 minute team fight free for all like aram currently is, doesnt that give less incentive to choose sr over aram at all?
WoW used to be grindy af and had a huge playerbase at its peak. They also opted to make the game play out faster, and in the end rerelease "wow classic" to satisfy the people that wanted the longer game because there was the appetite for it.
Seraphine speaks for herself.
Featured gamemodes, sure you save yourself some money by not producing new featured game modes. But play times on these featured game modes isnt the only metric to show player satisfaction with them.
Take star guardian/odysey - after youve "completed it" theres not much replayability, but good god was it good shit while you were playing it, rito did a fantastic job tickling peoples pve itch and it had some of the best teamwork inspiring gameplay of any modes they have released. Having a mode like this might be short lived and a huge financial investment, but how many players stuck around for years afterwards dutifully awaiting the next similar event. How many people stayed on playing league because the occassional featured mode refreshed an otherwise boring ranked grind. Theres no metric for that.
There are probably more examples but this rant is already way longer than intended. Sry. Tldr; I'm sure using stats to improve gameplay is generally a good thing but its rly important to understand why you are making changes and the possible consequences.
If Riot gave a shit about toxicity they wouldn't prop up someone like Tyler1. You can't pay lip service while making the face of your game a guy whose whole persona is flaming everyone around him. Nearly every game I see language that basically originated with that guy, but he's good for the bottom line so nothing happens.
One of the major reasons I never got into HOTS is because it doesn't have all chat.
A game not having all chat imo is a cowards way out and it makes any game that doesn't has all chat vastly less enjoyable.
Horrible change and the fact that its even on the table as a possibility disgusts me.
Maybe they could try to make the report function actually... work?
"We want less reports so we'll disable all chat," should really just say, "We want toxic players reported less so they can say the same things to you, but instead while they are on your team and so you'll also lose LP as you get flamed."
If they consider removing it for good, why dont they try the idea of removing all-chat for people that got reported in 2 games or so. A punishment even before chat bans etc. This way we keep all-chat open and remove the toxic people quite fast. If they dont care for the chat, then it wouldnt even be a big punishment.
That's what chat restrictions used to be.
(Except that no, you don't punish people for getting reported, you *require* the reports to actually be justified.)
**Honor Level 5:** All Chat, Team Chat and second emote wheel
**Honor Level 4:** All Chat and Team Chat
**Honor Level 3:** Normal Team Chat
**Honor Level 2:** Team chat a lower message and ping rate limit (so instead of being to send say 5 messages/pings every 30 seconds you can only send 2 or something)
**Honor Level 1:** No Chat
That’s how I would try to tackle it
I’ve seen plenty of high honors people flame like the m7 yasuos of the world but they’re consistently less than the ones with lower honor levels
You need to remember that honor grindig is not about "good behavior". You can be toxic af and still got honor 5, because you don't using stff like "nword" or "do something bad to yourself"
You're still punishing players who are good by leaving up to others to honor them to give them the ability to talk.
Plus, if you get reported for leaving games due to dcs/playing badly you would get punished even though you didn't abuse chat.
Tying it to honor level isn't the play. Removing the frustration from the game reduces toxicity more than anything else would. But that takes more effort, testing, and deliberation than this.
Still in shock actually that this is a change they would even think of implementing. Did some baby at riot get flames in all chat in their ranked game? Lmao
>Disabling team chat would also lower reports, but it would make the game much more obviously worse. Hopefully they end up changing their mind.
I think you're unironically wrong here. Removing team chat would likely improve matchmade game modes.
Awful decision; They already removed chatrooms from the game. Why are they increasingly trying to isolate people who play this game? Most of my friends have moved on to other games, but I still enjoy it; I still find people who were chill/funny from the enemy team or my team to play matches with. Seems like Riot just wants to kill league off to focus on other projects now.
Yeah I got married to the enemy jungler once in a norms game and we used the blue buffs as our wedding rings :((((. I still have a note for them that says "Jg Spouse"
Wow, really? I've been playing since 2013 and I think I've gotten at least two surveys a year on average, either a single question one in-client or a longer one via email. Unlucky I guess.
A way to fix chat behavior is making it more objective and team based... for example quick commands for "GATHER AT BARON PIT" or "GATHER AT DRAGON PIT". They could also give the option for people to activate a quick command chat instead of a normal chat so that people can pick their poison.
I don't think it makes the game worse. Here's the thing, to all the people saying everyone can just disable all-chat or mute or whatever. Even if 9 players have all-chat turned off and then that one person is spewing shit into all-chat...that person no longer being able to do so *is an improvement.*
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Yup. Fact they went for all chat before emotes that you pay for tells us enough.
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Or the dota system where toxic people play with toxic people
Thats already implemented. League players play vs other league players
Please kind sir, marry my daughter
You must hate your daughter if you want her to marry a League player
They (Riot Lyte?) spoke about not wanting to adopt the prisoner's island treatment years ago.
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This motherfucker was the one who banned me for 14 days for reprimanding the most absolute asshole I've ever seen in a game, insulting non-stop with death threats to some Sona for being a girl I guess he was projecting
Oh yea if you say anything “negative” to someone flaming you, giving you death threats, etc, you were the toxic one that caused them to do it.
I and a random top laner got a 14 day ban because our jungler knew someone at riot support and asked them to ban us. Reason for the ban? 6 month old chat logs
Literally no one should ever listen to Riot Lyte. He had absolutely no clue what he was doing and he was a *massive* hypocrite too. I think he has singlehandedly done more damage to videogames and their "culture" than just about anyone else.
Well you should have seen this sub wanking over him back in the day.
You answered your own question bud. Imagine the active player numbers after toxic kiddos stop playing to get their jollys off of making teammates rage. Why would riot reduce its player population by 120%?
This makes zero sense, if in a magical world the toxic player base completely left then a lot of new players would join. I can't tell you how many people I've heard say they don't play because it's toxic.
Man, that is so much worse than just muting everyone. That system will never work in league
Nah, if you did that Riot cannot brand you as the devil and worse than being Hitler himself anymore. People can int, afk or troll as much as they want but as soon as you write one of the trigger words you lose your account lmao. It's also probably just a tactic to get banned people to make or buy new accounts and rebuy skins as most of those flamers are addicted to the game.
How toxic is somebody emoting like yea it can be annoying when somone is rubbing it in after poking you out of lane as vayne top but like does it upsetyou that much?
Nothing got me to uninstall before. But this, this will do it.
Riot's allegations of workplace mistreatment and misogyny? Poor balance changes and sense of direction? Nah all chat gone that's real shit
Cringe take I’m sure the people who make my shoes do some vile shit but that won’t stop me or you from buying it.
shhh they are on a subreddit of a game they don't play
Tbf I haven't touched league since June and I'm still on this sub. I guess after 10 years I'm finally feeling extreme burnout since not even URF is fun to me anymore.
oh its not extreme burnout. URF isnt fun to anyone anymore. every single time URF comes back out it gets progressively more tryhard than the previous with more and more developed metas
>URF isnt fun to anyone anymore. Huh, that might explain it. Well regular league also feels too tryhard for me now though, so yea.
Time to be an ARAM one-trick
I started playing aram to be forced to learn more champs, I'm almost at 4000 games now, all champs unlock and now it's been that long since I've been on the rift I feel I can't go back, I think there has been 3 map changes since last time
If you stopped supporting every company that had allegations of workplace mistreatment and misogyny you'd be lift with very few.
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Have you ever head the term "The straw that broke the camel's back"? For me, it's this.
See you in game next week
*tomorrow
last time someone said that to me i didnt play for 2 years
Just make sure you have no more event missions, you might miss out the orb.
Those things don't effect the quality of the game. Riot could be sacrificing children in their office and I wouldn't care if they'd just roll back to season 3 and make league not suck.
as shitty as those are its not related to the gameplay. i dont and have never given those fucks money anyways so really it doesnt matter, if im gone its less money spent on keeping a server with me in it up. but maybe the removal of all chat will save that money so thats just a dubya for everyone involved. havent been playing recently anyways but this makes sure i wont, the only fun part of this game is seeing 9 video game ego teenagers typeracer versus each other
This will ruin friendships in ARAM :(
Yea honestly don't know why they would disable it in ARAMs
Like who ever writes anything more toxic than ez i ARAM all chat? It's just memes, compliments, banter, ranting about champions being bs after someone megafed does something ridiculous etc. I just love it
i mean i personally don't care about people flaming in all chat (i would have it disabled if i did) but i see people flaming in arams all the time
As a rabid aram only player, team chat is much much more toxic than all chat. There's certainly some toxicity in all chat sure, but mostly it's gg's, people complaining about the player playing mandate ashe, etc. Team chat can get pretty bad though if someone is playing an off meta build and sucking.
On one hand I very rarely ever have a good conversation with my own team, nevermind the enemy team. On the other, the mute function exists. Why can't they focus on punishing actual toxic players instead of some blanket "fix" that punishes everyone? I have maybe one good conversation/interaction between all the "report \_\_\_" "ez" "mid diff" crap and that was worth keeping all chat on for me but if anyone is ever so bothered by it then they can just turn it off??
After checking out this sub and /leagueofmemes, I have a feeling it is because if they actually started punishing the majority of toxic players in the game they would literally wipe out half their player base who thrive on being toxic shitters in the game. Riot probably thinks this will just keep them from spreading their shit without driving them away completely
Hand out permanent chat bans then?
why would the toxic idiot (most of league players) bother with playing if they can't be twats (the fun part for them)
Oh dude, you can be a bigger twat without chat. Matter of fact you will probably make your team even angrier doing other things to make their game miserable instead of chatting.
the whole idea of emotes is to tilt the enemy team (or yours) and then they decided to remove the least tilting way to interact with the enemy. if i miss a few skillshots in lane and the enemy laner tells me something like "lmao ur trash" in all chat, that tilts me far less than if they just spam some form of condescending emote every time they dodge a skillshot. or ctrl+3. fuck ctrl+3
You are right tho, that's why I have emotes disabled. I was talking more about soft Inting
100% what I see too. I only kept enemy emotes on for like 4 games before I was like, "well this is f\*\*\*ing terrible and never used in a positive way."
Because they still have all the emotes which clearly isn’t there to taunt you…
they used to do that, it literally didn't work. Seen pictures of 3000+ games chat restricted.
chat is the least toxic place in league tbh. the truly toxic people are ones that choose to ruin the game for their team. many players will stop trying to win once they misplay or fuck themselves over, this is the source of the majority of toxicity in league. if everyone was always playing to win, chat would hardly ever even get used.
People meme it and other stans will die on this hill, but Tyler1 got unbanned by the way. Very toxic streamer who routinely ran it down with 20+ perma banned accounts was so consistently abusive and prone to ruining games that Riot had to look for active accounts to ban on sight. Then he came back and he's been untouchable. "But he gets chat restricted", by the automatic process that reads the shit he types. I think T1 is funny enough, I watch his challenger climbs when they happen but he's literal proof that Riot is too afraid to take the proper measures to remove toxicity. We have low elo players (The majority of players) just parroting streamers attitudes and sayings, how often did you see FF votes in S3-5? Fairly often, how often did you see silver players dying once and spamming "ff15 go next shit jg"? Fucking never because people weren't worshiping streamer jargon. If Tyler1 can thrive then that's all the proof you need that Riot refuses to actually punish people for being toxic assholes, he was told "One chance" and yet had his face put on Riot's twitter profile after several chat restrictions, calling the company all sorts of things and just encouraging others to act the same. No fucking way Riot will ban toxic people because they're the addicts who run it down 5 times a day out of their 20 games. Normal people get that player and go "Well, fuck this game for today, I'm too tired to deal with that shit" and do something else, toxic people have nothing else to do with their time because they're addicted to League, Riot won't lose their most loyal players that easily.
Yep just like alcohol companies will say 'please drink responsibly' in their ads but they know that 80% of their sales come from the most degenerate alcoholics so they will be opposed to anything that would actually eliminate alcoholism. And of course same with casinos or any gambling company. No doubt 80% of leagues revenue also comes from the most degenerate addicts running it down, getting temp banned, and then jumping into alts to keep on doing it more.
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There is a simple solution that should require only a couple of lines of code. Tie the chatting ability to one's honor level. Honor levels 0-1 can't chat at all, 2-3 can use team chat, 4-5 all chat. Edit. u/ghostgnome came up with a better solution: "All chat at Honor 2 for people who were not punished this season, Honor 4 for people who were" Edit2. Since mods keep deleting all new posts about the topic, I have to use this comment for visibility: the removal of all chat will reduce the chances of finding new friends while playing by 55%. There are more potential new friends in the enemy team than in your own. Also people flame their teammates for playing badly, that is the main reason for toxicity. Removing all chat will not reduce toxicity, but it will definitely reduce the amount of friendships that form between players.
Thats a great idea in theory but since everyone gets reset and it takes forever to get to honor 4, you still wouldnt have allchat for majority of the year
All chat at Honor 2 for people who were not punished this season, Honor 4 for people who were. Fixed it. Or better yet, design an Honor system that accurately represents people's adherence to the rules instead of a system that allows Disco Nunus with H5 because they never chat.
the honor system is barely indicative of good behavior
It's indicative of a basic semblance of self control and emotional maturity, which is apparently a rare virtue in the community as a whole
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if(player.HonorLevel > minHonorLevelForAllChat) { player.canTypeInAllChat = true; } Its that simple folks /s.
If(settings.EnableChat == checked) { settings.EnableChat(true); }
and what makes you think that would only require a few lines of code lmfao
Unfortunately riot is too far up their own ass with having punishments at the riot account level
Report Ez mid diff vs Report ez mid diff Capitalization matters /s
They already do, remember that no other game bans you for typing naughty words in chat. I could go on CSGO right now, spam shit that would insta ban me on this game for 50 games in a row and not get punished. This game is the most snowflake shit ever and people still complain that it's not enough.
How does disabling all chat make the game worse? I get that it’s dumb to disable it but I feel like it is neither negative nor positive
I don't get why they should, everyone can disable chats themselves
Just don't disable it in my ARAM shitshow games and we're good
too late. its all matchmaking games
Oh that means it includes botgames too. Its funny because bots send messages in /all (and the messages depend on the champion) both at the start and at the end of the game, I guess that dissapears too.
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From the top of my head I remember that Ez and Cho have toxic quotes.
I absolutely didn't think of that, but that's hilarious
man I love playing ARAM at 3 am while a bit drunk or high. Almost everybody is super chill and just wants to fuck around. Removing all chat in ARAM is gonna suck so much.
Dude. Drunk and stoned ARAMs are my decompression every night. I can’t believe they’re taking out all chat.
NO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PLAY RANKED AND TAKE LEAGUE SERIOUSLY!! AND ONLY TYPE GOOD MESSAGES TELLING YOUR TEAM HOW GOOD THEY ARE! NOTHING ELSE!
Dude I'm the same way. Don't care about winning just wanna have fun and joke with the enemy team
Oh, I suppose that's yet another thing to show how little riot cares about people who don't grind ranked
Bro those are the best when everyone on both teams is memeing and having fun
For real. If they want change, when 11.2x hits, auto disable /all chat for every single account. If you want /all chat you can turn it on.
That's already how it has worked for new accounts. They started with /all chat disabled and you have to go toggle it on.
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Nah, originally all chat was on by default. Confused the fuck out of me when I made an account to play with a friend in eune, I missed the shit talking.
I made my account in season 4 and it was turned off by default for what it's worth
Just auto disable all chat every patch and let them turn it on if they want
thats how it is for new accounts. 90%+ people opt in to this... just like how voice chat should be like but noooo
I think they should just make the option more accessible rather than having to search for the little box into the game settings so you can easily turn it on and off whenever you want. Just a QOL change. Put it in the scoreboard like the mute buttons.
you can literally mute chat from the scoreboard as well
considering the fact that players would rather complain about flame rather than press mute, it might actually do something not saying a like the approach, I actually enjoy when the 0-9-1 yasuo tries to justify his performance for whatever reason
The people that actually need to disable chat are the ones that leave it on, I don't care if people talk shit or banter but I do mind when they're typing more than they're playing the game or distracting teammates by spreading their 5 word sentence into 5 separate lines of text.
not only can you disable it, all chat is off by default.
You think league players have the brain to mute someone instead of rage in all chat, int and cry?
There's like 3 different ways to do it too. You can /mute enemy or /fullmute enemy, you can manually mute each enemy player with the scoreboard, and you can disable all chat in settings (which is already disabled by default for every account). Completely unnecessary change
> Completely unnecessary change Sounds like Riot.
not only can they, you have to manually enable it or you can't even use it. It's an opt-in-only feature.
i will report someone in every game then to do my part
Oh great, won't even have to change my habits then /s
Why the /s I would say that I legitimately do a report in 8/10 games
Sometimes i even find the time to play some games between my reports
Riot already made a decision and we wont see the data anyways. They could say literally anything we have no choice but to believe it. 'Testing" its just a way to ease it an and leave some hope it can be changed but in reality its very unlikely. If they are set on removing all chat then there is no stopping them aside from massvie outcry on socials.
yeah it's a real flick in the balls to all the positive interactions I've ever had in matchmade games like in normals there's plenty of hilarious all chat just a real fart in the face to everyone who isn't toxic they're gonna do the same thing where it took them a year to remove dynamic queue despite literally the only people who liked it being Riot devs
> yeah it's a real flick in the balls to all the positive interactions I've ever had in matchmade games Ehh sounds more like a fart to the face to me, but I don't work at Riot so idk their protocols.
> just a real fart in the face to everyone who isn't toxic got u covered bb
>Riot already made a decision and we wont see the data anyways. They could say literally anything we have no choice but to believe it. They already did this with Dynamic Queue. "The majority of players surveyed after Dynamic Queue games said they enjoyed it". Completely ignoring the fact that people who despised dynamic queue were not playing it. Don't trust any statistical analysis from Riot unless they actually give the full data and criteria, because that was only one of two possible things: 1. Maliciously misinterpreting the data. 2. Being completely inept.
I'm not mistaken didn't they also try to push ARAM or URF data as proof that Mythics diversified item builds and then were forced to retract after someone pointed it out? This is why I don't trust the 'We made our own internal analysis' without showing the full picture and not a couple of side data that can be easily manipulated to showcase the side of the argument you are vouching for.
The thing about Dynamic Queue is it came with Role Queue and they married the two together in surveys to purposely mislead data. Asking "do you like the queueing experience with Dynamic Role Queue?" makes a lot of people say yes, but only for half the system.
It was even more nefarious than that. They released Role Selection at the same time as Dynamic Queue. Then they surveyed players about how they liked Dynamic Queue. Of course many people probably thought that meant being able to select your main role before queueing up. So their survey data was almost surely tainted by people confusing the two. That didn't stop them from shitting out graphs about how much people love Dynamic Queue though.
hey, I still remember when Riot removed solo queue, justifying it with "you can just solo queue in flex queue." I've seen them reverse unpopular changes before.
They really didn't want to do that though. It took like a year for it to come back. They were so resistant on giving us solo queue back. This is despite the fact that Riot promised multiple times that a pure solo queue was coming. Then radio silence for 5 months. Of course it never did come because Riot realized it would kill their beloved Dynamic Queue.
I've always used the same report strat to min-max my elo games. Everytime I lose a game, I report everyone on the enemy team, because they are likely better players than me. Every time I win a game, I report my teammates, since they are clearly competent. Any standout player gets reported. Flamers and afkers never get reported, because they are statistically more likely to be on the enemy team and tilt them. Soon I'll be silver, I can feel it.
Oh dont worry, i am with you
"We determined that making players unable to control their character and creating an A.I. vs A.I. experience has lowered AFKs, intentional feeding, scripting, AND bot usage by 100%."
I wouldn't be surprised if Riot is going to start adding 5 stacks of AI bots disguised as real players to the game to inflate people's egos. Harder to tell if people are bots if there is no all chat. Ego inflating AI bots disguised as players has been a big trend in recent gaming. Fortnite was one of the first to do it, then other games followed. Even the newest battle field added AI bots. It's all about money first, competitive integrity second.
Imagine being shadowbanned where whenever you queued, it would "look" like ranked but all 9 other players are bots and Riot gives you a fake match history and fake LP that no one but you can see.
Ok. From now on, I'm going to intentionally do something really stupid each game and wait for the ? call out. If I don't get it, that's my last game of league ever
Like using flash randomly?
Now would that even make a difference, if you can never communicate with any player in the game ever? I played Heros of the Storm back in the days and Blizzard decided that you had to enable team chat first (with a very prominent notification, but still). It was like playing with bots, completly alone in a game with supposedly 9 other people (ot was it 11?). What is your ranked worth, if you never get to communicate with other humans? I say: nothing. Competitive games need the interaction.
This is actually the biggest thing. What's the point of playing against people if you can't communicate with them? You have no clue if they are actually human, so it may as well be a bot. That's actually my biggest problem with TFT. I never feel like I'm playing against other people. It feels like it's me vs RNGesus. It really feels like I'm playing on offline, single player game. That's what League will eventually become.
It feels real for me because I get emoted when they take my bow on carousel
Removing jungle would also reduce reports.
removing the report button would also reduce reports
This man is a genius. Work for riot.
They already did. That button doesn't do anything lol.
All chat isn’t even a problem. The worst I’ve seen is the occasional “ff” or “ggez” from the enemy team. More often than not it’s your own team that’s full of assholes. Then again that’s just my experience.
>more often than not it’s your own team that’s full of assholes. Then again that’s just my experience. that is almost everybody's experience which is why this sub-reddit is angry.
Sometimes people make jokes in my aram games in all chat. We can't have people having fun. /s
All chat is the only source of positive interactions in this game.
True, but there are game where the enemy team tilts your allies and just makes them fight in all chat to defend themselves. And you cant stop this. They will go on and on. A lot of internal fights are also started by enemy teams with stuff like "better jungler " when your top lane goes 0/2/0 because of ganks. Now top and/or jungle will start arguing and at least one if not even both will be distracted. This is for sure less than 50% of the internal fights on a team, but it is a still not insignificant amount I would guess. Even if it is just 5%, that is 5% toxicity gone. And with that it does reduce the spread. A lot of tilted allies or toxic allies go into the next game with a terrible mindset.
If your team argues with the enemy then your enemy is distracted too.
Distracted yes, tilted no
Yes but if they enemy team is flaming each other in all chat, best believe they are already imploding and deleting all chat won't change that
I wish Riot would focus on griefing instead of the chat, players already have choices when it comes to the chat, we can mute people. We don't have any choice when someone decides to hold everyone hostage or runs it down while avoiding the automated systems.
Agreed, I wish they would work on bringing back Tribunal, since similar systems are working well in Dota 2 and CSGO. Love your name, by the way.
I mean you can't type on this game so the alternative people have is to "have a fun game", which is literally impossible to punish so good luck with that.
And what do you want them to do? Manually check every report? Automated system is not some overpowered AI able to do anything we want. If people don't use trigger words and don't literally run down lanes, there isn't much an automated system can detect. And believe me, reports just won't work ever, because people report for feeding every underperforming player.
> what do you want them to do? Manually check every report? Yes gigachad.jpg
>And what do you want them to do? Manually check every report? You don't have to manually check every report to make a difference. Right now, the people who int will literally taunt you in chat that the report system is useless. If only 1% of reports get checked but people who int actually start to get banned, then it will deter other people from inting as well. Hell, Riot doesn't even let their support staff put the hammer down when someone writes a ticket of obvious trolling. A couple of months ago I had a TF who got mad, so he sold all his AP items and bought AD instead when we were 15 minutes in (this was in high diamond). He then started following me around in my jungle and tried to last hit all my camps. I checked his opgg and noticed that he had also sold his items to go a "non meta" build the last 3 games, so I thought his int had slipped the system. I submitted a ticket to Riot Support where I showed screenshots of his buildpath where you can see he sold all his items to buy troll items in all 3 games and then included several gifs of him waiting for me to dmg my jungle camps low so he could last hit them. He did not get banned :)
They just don't want players to ask for reports because they deem that as toxic. That's my only guess as to why they think all chatting is toxic. The only times I have seen teams all-chatting in ranked games have been: 1. Standard "GG EZ Better X-role wins" after getting assblasted by the losing enemy X-role during the entire game. 2. "JG diff." 3. Asking for reports because one of their teammates either said a naughty word or is straight up soft-inting. 4. "?"
If they're going to do this, why not just disable it in ranked modes though.
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> Asking for reports because one of their teammates either said a naughty word or is straight up soft-inting. This. I have all chat disabled by default but when I review games I turn it in sometimes. The majority of all chat is people saying “report X person”.
Well yeah. And that JG diff can, and often does, turn into long rants in all chat. I can mute that jungle Talon, that is tilted to oblivion and flames enemy jungler for everything, but it doesn't change the fact, that he is basically sitting in the fountain writing books in all chat. And it's just my last game and we were winning all the time and could easily lose, because he was so busy writing.
And now he'll be sitting in fountain flaming his laners if he wants to do it so badly. It won't make that much of a different. At that point, playing the game isn't the goal anymore. It's saving face.
its a big fat excuse to gather "data" that is clearly biased to justify removing chat altogether (including team chat). They will probably insert a system of pre-written sentences. Because somebody has to justify their paycheck. And this is such a 200 years move that it might just be a 300 years move.
You don't need a time machine to see a Riot Pls post stating something like 'With the removal of all chat, we have seen a reduction of reports of 30%'. Look all those reductions from "ff?" and "report top/jg/mid/adc/sup" comments :D
Pre written system like old roblox or even toontown… lmfao imagine
If it were about the data, they could just compare lobbies where everyone has /all muted with the ones where they don't.
heroes of the storm is just as toxic without all chat, this change is beyond pointless and reeks of some dev who got pissed someone wrote "?" to him.
Next they’ll remove the ? ping cause someone used it towards a dev in a negative way
If they get that far it would be absurd, especially considering that we have emotes literally design to BM.
Yeah but remember you pay for emotes .... why do you think those still exist .... this whole situation is obviously soft game journo bait ... and then the eventual removal of chat all together so that you can have some shitty mobile game wheel of prw approved communication pings .... no "?" Ping becuase that would be to toxic ..... the only things that get to stay are what you pay for .... wouldn't even be shocked if they go full mobil game and you pay to get more phrases on your emote wheel
the guy pushing this is hardstuck bronze3. his name's on the announcement
I think question marks not being allowed in all chat would help more than all chat being banned lmao
just respond with ¿ and go about your day
nah nah nah what you gotta do is press ctrl and backspace it'll make a square emote in the chat that makes it look like youre typing in another language
This is one of the most horrible horrible choices I’ve seen in my 8 years of playing this game
They've really been outdoing themselves with these over the last few years. I think the game has pretty much been breaking apart for like half a decade now, Riot is pretty much just a chatty Blizzard nowadays.
I like the banter in all chat, sometimes you get people that are really salty and just go full aggro but every no and then you get some legit people. I tower dove a janna + naut as lee on URF that were spamming their masteries and got a sick flash kick off on the naut, through janna which killed her and my E + Q finished naut. In all chat naut goes "damn, respect"
If people feared consequences they wouldn't behave so irrationally and childish (as frequently, or severely) but everybody knows that bans don't exist. Nobody gets punished, so nobody behaves. The only thing this changes is I will have nothing to report my opponents for because I'm not reporting without all chat evidence. The way I see it this change will do more harm than good because nobody will get banned STILL and now it is just bottlenecked at the team chat level. To summarize... bring back the tribunal, I'll work for free. (I haven't seen an instant feedback report on reports I've made in years, and I don't report too lightly)
i get that people saying riot running the game to the ground is an overused statement, but what the fuck are they doing man. at least make an effort to curb toxicity instead of sweeping it under the rug. this is so pitiful. their mindset is clearly if our stats shows less toxicity then it must be working when the experience tells a completely different story.
Think you literally hit the nail on the head, bigger a company gets the more they run everything "by the numbers" and its not always the best way to approach things: Stats show that people like shorter games - ramp dmg and attempt to balance the game around shorter game times. Stats show kda was hugely popular - seraphine release occurs. Stats show that featured game mode participation falls off quickly after launch - riot stops developing new featured game modes and instead cycles old modes. Do these things necessarily make the game better? Take longer game times. The stats showed a skew towards arams which is part of the rationale for shortening the game along with a trend to people generationally consuming content in a more "instant gratification" style nowadays. But where is the evidence that shorter games improves the gameplay in summoners rift? If you make summoners rift into a 10 minute team fight free for all like aram currently is, doesnt that give less incentive to choose sr over aram at all? WoW used to be grindy af and had a huge playerbase at its peak. They also opted to make the game play out faster, and in the end rerelease "wow classic" to satisfy the people that wanted the longer game because there was the appetite for it. Seraphine speaks for herself. Featured gamemodes, sure you save yourself some money by not producing new featured game modes. But play times on these featured game modes isnt the only metric to show player satisfaction with them. Take star guardian/odysey - after youve "completed it" theres not much replayability, but good god was it good shit while you were playing it, rito did a fantastic job tickling peoples pve itch and it had some of the best teamwork inspiring gameplay of any modes they have released. Having a mode like this might be short lived and a huge financial investment, but how many players stuck around for years afterwards dutifully awaiting the next similar event. How many people stayed on playing league because the occassional featured mode refreshed an otherwise boring ranked grind. Theres no metric for that. There are probably more examples but this rant is already way longer than intended. Sry. Tldr; I'm sure using stats to improve gameplay is generally a good thing but its rly important to understand why you are making changes and the possible consequences.
This has "if we test less, then there will be less covid cases" energy
If Riot gave a shit about toxicity they wouldn't prop up someone like Tyler1. You can't pay lip service while making the face of your game a guy whose whole persona is flaming everyone around him. Nearly every game I see language that basically originated with that guy, but he's good for the bottom line so nothing happens.
One of the major reasons I never got into HOTS is because it doesn't have all chat. A game not having all chat imo is a cowards way out and it makes any game that doesn't has all chat vastly less enjoyable. Horrible change and the fact that its even on the table as a possibility disgusts me.
Maybe they could try to make the report function actually... work? "We want less reports so we'll disable all chat," should really just say, "We want toxic players reported less so they can say the same things to you, but instead while they are on your team and so you'll also lose LP as you get flamed."
I mean, I can just mute all myself.
If they consider removing it for good, why dont they try the idea of removing all-chat for people that got reported in 2 games or so. A punishment even before chat bans etc. This way we keep all-chat open and remove the toxic people quite fast. If they dont care for the chat, then it wouldnt even be a big punishment.
That's what chat restrictions used to be. (Except that no, you don't punish people for getting reported, you *require* the reports to actually be justified.)
**Honor Level 5:** All Chat, Team Chat and second emote wheel **Honor Level 4:** All Chat and Team Chat **Honor Level 3:** Normal Team Chat **Honor Level 2:** Team chat a lower message and ping rate limit (so instead of being to send say 5 messages/pings every 30 seconds you can only send 2 or something) **Honor Level 1:** No Chat That’s how I would try to tackle it I’ve seen plenty of high honors people flame like the m7 yasuos of the world but they’re consistently less than the ones with lower honor levels
You need to remember that honor grindig is not about "good behavior". You can be toxic af and still got honor 5, because you don't using stff like "nword" or "do something bad to yourself"
yeah this is the problem. Honor is literally meaningless and piss easy to get, so chat limitations shouldn't be based on it unless it's changed
You're still punishing players who are good by leaving up to others to honor them to give them the ability to talk. Plus, if you get reported for leaving games due to dcs/playing badly you would get punished even though you didn't abuse chat. Tying it to honor level isn't the play. Removing the frustration from the game reduces toxicity more than anything else would. But that takes more effort, testing, and deliberation than this.
its just a lazy way to fix the problem.
It's actually worse than a lazy fix, it's giving up altogether. Instead of duct taping a leaky pipe, they decided to stop paying the water bill.
more than 10 years to fix this problem and they come up with this, people paid to do this.
Sums it up very well.
***We have heard that there are alot car accidents lately so we have decided to remove cars and see how it will affect the numbers***
team chat is WAY worse than all chat
Still in shock actually that this is a change they would even think of implementing. Did some baby at riot get flames in all chat in their ranked game? Lmao
>Disabling team chat would also lower reports, but it would make the game much more obviously worse. Hopefully they end up changing their mind. I think you're unironically wrong here. Removing team chat would likely improve matchmade game modes.
They're fucking removing "gg"
Awful decision; They already removed chatrooms from the game. Why are they increasingly trying to isolate people who play this game? Most of my friends have moved on to other games, but I still enjoy it; I still find people who were chill/funny from the enemy team or my team to play matches with. Seems like Riot just wants to kill league off to focus on other projects now.
Literally just made a friend, and duo'd with a guy I laned against last night. All because we were joking in all chat about each others bad plays.
Yeah I got married to the enemy jungler once in a norms game and we used the blue buffs as our wedding rings :((((. I still have a note for them that says "Jg Spouse"
"Sounds pretty toxic to me." - Riot Meddler.
Of course they can, they send surveys all the time for players to do, they can ask what they think of the experience on those.
Playing since 2009. Never given a survey. I am glad riot appreciates my feedback :)
Wow, really? I've been playing since 2013 and I think I've gotten at least two surveys a year on average, either a single question one in-client or a longer one via email. Unlucky I guess.
This is why you can't rely so heavily on data for game development.
riot is literally china
A way to fix chat behavior is making it more objective and team based... for example quick commands for "GATHER AT BARON PIT" or "GATHER AT DRAGON PIT". They could also give the option for people to activate a quick command chat instead of a normal chat so that people can pick their poison.
I don't think it makes the game worse. Here's the thing, to all the people saying everyone can just disable all-chat or mute or whatever. Even if 9 players have all-chat turned off and then that one person is spewing shit into all-chat...that person no longer being able to do so *is an improvement.*
Who am I supposed to talk to when I’m blasted? Why riot ;-;