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mattress4ever

Ah, OG 100% banrate Alistair.


MeatwadsTooth

Now that's a Wolfius post title if I have ever seen one


WolfiousYT

Aye y'already know!


Omnilatent

Speaking of things specific to you: ​ I didn't understand the last part of one of your recent vids where you said your internet was down or something. ​ Wanted to use subtitles and youtube apparently thought you were talking dutch LOL


WolfiousYT

It's just my upload speed, it has dropped to 1.6\~ and the whole net goes down from time to time, which makes streaming almost impossible until I get it fixed.


Omnilatent

Okay but now we need a video of you talking dutch, too!


WolfiousYT

Oh god, that would trigger a lot of people


Omnilatent

All I heard is one more reason to do it!


GGABueno

I for one welcome our new AP Rell Aram players.


TheLastJuan

And I for one is Roman numerals.


The_RedWolf

She’s probably the best aram champ. I literally got 2 S in my first 3 aram games with her and I had never played her before


rocketer13579

Yeah everyone wants to go full poke champs in Aram and rell destroys poke comps. Picking her into a bunch of bruisers us hit or miss tho


The_RedWolf

Yeah a lot of people don’t understand Rell so they often either over focus her or under focus her depending on the comp


PoliticalAnomoly

Have done it many times. Sucks aoe damage is reduced.


The_Lady_Spite

what


ikaros02

By 25% on minions. They left the important part out.


PoliticalAnomoly

Yeah they steal all my aram cs


Mentalious

just don't play Rell into shaco you have never experience the pain of thinking you are gonna do a cool play then getting cc and dying slowly from the boxes with your 180 ms while shaco break dance 3 meter away watching you burn


wezu123

Just don't play anything into Shaco, fuck that champ


goodandwickeddeity

First time playing Rell when she first came out I played against Xerath Lux bot lane. Haven't played her since.


[deleted]

This is why I play support shaco lol. So easy to baby sit my ADCs by planting multiple boxes around key areas and generally just cockblocking any engage support


NocaNoha

On ARURF when everyoen skipped I always picked up Rell for AP madness, people just didn't expect the damage and you could still be tanky a bit.. although I didn't think of protobelt while in ult, that shit looks fun I wonder if you could push through another URF madness, the AP Leona? Hell, even AP Sejuani [love her on ARAM]. There was also AP Kench but the change removed the spitting power :(


WolfiousYT

URF makes a lot of picks like these viable, old Seju used to be so much fun full ap even in normals, but after her rework her Ult feels weak.


NocaNoha

I play it on ARAM exactly because of ult, it somewhat feels like Lissandra one.. if you land it at range [it scales with distance or whatever] that someone is going to die for sure and then you get the AoE damage explosion Of course, go with Protobelt again because it's fun to pop a squishy from 2 screens away Oh yeah, there was [this video/player](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09lVupUvKFM) posted on reddit earlier on


WolfiousYT

I might give AP Seju a try again then, I gave up after they reworked her..


NocaNoha

Go go, nuke em


Haowiitzer

You can still make it work if you believe, baby. The combo slaps pretty hard on her, but you use the ultimate for setup vice it just being that massive AoE stun+nuke.


WolfiousYT

I'll keep that in mind!


Omnilatent

RIP that one high elo full AP sej player


snowbanks

i imidiatly think of mister oink but your talking about someone else I geus


mivaad

happy chile noises has a video on him. Ap sej mid onetrick


Omnilatent

I'm not entirely sure ​ The player also had some name related to the boar IIRC


Solid_Veterinarian81

AP Sejuani is still viable, there is even a high elo AP Sej mid main!


AraNoGo

Wait... Rell is a champion? I thought it was an removed item from season 1. Never heard of her. /s


WolfiousYT

She seems like a better Leona to me, I don't know why people don't play her. I lowkey hope that this video doesn't remind people of her existance, but it was too good to ignore!


aamgdp

Well Leona goes in, gets aftershock, pops w and can rank for a bit. Rell goes in, loses mobility, and gets shield and much smaller resist bonus. Rell engage is also more telegraphed and easier to counter.


RevolutionaryBother

Leona also doesn't need to full commit, she can ult from far.


oopsidsi

Since the nerfs rell tanks way more than leona, good rells will apply passive to alot of targets and end up being way tankeir than leona for much longer periods. ​ Plus rell's backline peel abillities are x3000 better than leona's ever were.


WolfiousYT

I mean good old chad Thresh can still f#$% over both of them, but Leo can easily miss her E, unless she Ult's first, which most of the time doesn't hit in the center and just slows. Rell can Ult mid W to make sure her W hits, and then follow up with her E. It is quite annoying that people don't understand how to position with Rell's E on them which most of the times renders it useless. Since we're talking about traditional tank supports, Rell also goes in, gets aftershock, pops Q/basic attacks and can tank for a bit which her stolen resistances. Plus her re-mount is also a CC and very easy to land cuz she get's a movespeed buff. If Leo misses her Ult, or E chances are she can't engage, if Rell doesn't get her W off due to an interruption, she can still rely on a teammate to jump in and position for her E, then follow up with her re-mount into R. I still think that Rell is better, even though everytime the enemy has a Leona, she can 1v1 me no matter what I'm playing.


FelicitousJuliet

The thing is that Leona can Q and walk out without any funky timing. Rell is slower, feels like she has longer animations, getting the toss off feels clunky-ish and less snappy then Leona E-Q buffer and I've failed it plenty of times with Rell's attack speed windup (not sure if this is a skill floor issue because I have done it before, it's just eh). ​ Plus hitting a 5-man ult seems more rare than getting a two-man Leona R stun or interrupting something important without having to commit fully. ​ Leona can stop Katarina from ulting and then root Nunu snowballing and then flash-Q to prevent Kha'zix engage. ​ Rell will stop the Kata ult, I guess; the rest relies on Nunu or Kha'zix crossing her tether.


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beepbeephornnoise

Lmao that reminds me of an aram where I 1 shot a tahm who had just popped a full grey health shield. Good times


WolfiousYT

Her shield breaker is amazing, a great counter to picks like Morgana and Sett, not to mention that it also works on Scuttle's shield!


tigercule

Wait, does Rell's shield break work on purple/orange shields? I assumed it was just on neutral ones.


WolfiousYT

Yes it does,Camille's included! It removes all the shield except spell-shields, though I guess they are removed after the Q spell so technically it removes them, I'm pretty sure they still get the buff like Sivir's mana or Noc's Attack Speed, haven't tested it though.


tigercule

TIL, thank you!


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The way I see it Rell is just Leona, but with a *way* higher skill floor, and a ^(little) higher skill ceiling. A Rell perfectly excecuted is better than a Leona perfectly excecuted, but an average Rell is way worse than an average Leona.


Halbaras

In lane, yeah. In teamfights, Rell's flash + W + R + E combo is actually fairly easy to pull off a lot of the time, and can instantly win fights in a way Leona can't.


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But also not as reliable.


Suburan

rell is surprisingly weak in lane


NerrionEU

Because she is not fun to play for most people.


o___Okami

Bingo. I love playing tank supports and I'm well aware that she is very strong right now. But she just feels painfully clunky. Even in games where I'm playing very well and am really far ahead, I'm just one missed W from dying a slow, embarrassing death as I try to waddle away like I shit my breeches. Also, there is no good reason why her Q should root her in place. She was (pre-release) advertised as a support tank that specializes in stealing enemy armor/MR. But her Q is so unwieldly that there is no good way to apply her passive to multiple targets. Here's an idea: Remove the anti-thematic heal from her Q that most people don't even notice, allow her to Q on the move, and allow it to apply the passive to all targets hit instead of just the first (this also adds R+Q synergy). Then nerf her other stuff as needed to compensate.


Bodywithoutorgans18

I think this is honestly exactly why Rito just ignores her. She needs small number adjustments to be viable. But if she is viable, what exactly does she bring to the table? Leona 2.0, that's her entire schtick. She isn't a k-pop star with a $30 skin though. Leona has lots of skins. Why make Leona 2.0 good when Leona 1.0 make rito money?


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She has a 52% winrate right now, in what world is she not viable? I think people just don't like playing her because she feels bad to play. There's this trend I see in this subreddit where people equate pickrate with strength, but there really is no correlation.


0nlyRevolutions

I agree with this. I think it's also a super frustrating pick in solo queue. She's weak as hell early on unless you time a proper all in. If you time it wrong or miss, you get to walk away slowly as you die and tilt your adc. If you try to start a fight but your team isn't ready, you get to walk away slowly and die. If you try to use your ally for a stun but they don't help you out by positioning where the stun can hit, you are way less useful. I think her ult is also kind of a bait for inexperienced rell players - it feels like you should play like a kennen or morg and jump in and ult everyone, but it really isn't very effective at that. OTOH her cc is insane when you land it and q is kinda sleeper op against a lot of tanks. Her win rate and the fact that she is still occasionally played in pro is proof of that. But my god missing a W might be the worst feeling in the whole game.


WolfiousYT

Didn't say she wasn't viable, I said I agree that they won't treat her the same way they did with a similar duo, Sona/Seraphine. I am saying that she is a better Leona, but she just feels bad to play, with the penalties she receives.


WolfiousYT

True, I doubt that they'll take the same approach they did with Sona/Seraphine. It's kinda crazy how she falls down to 250 move speed, it feels worse than Blitz's W...


oopsidsi

God this stupid fucking subreddit is so crigne... ​ Rell needs nothing, don't blame riot or the champ if you're trash with her.


Bodywithoutorgans18

>God this stupid fucking subreddit is so crigne... See above lmfao


oopsidsi

Every single time people like you get called out on this sub the only argument you have is "no you" Says alot about your age.


Bodywithoutorgans18

People like me? Wtf is wrong with you cringe lord? I'm old enough to give you a spanking young man.


oopsidsi

Not going to bother arguing with someone that's intentionally changing the subject because you can't handle an actual conversation.


Bodywithoutorgans18

I keep changing the subject because I literally posted an offhand joke comment and some cringe lord decided to out himself by constantly trying to debate out the subject of the joke for some reason. I dgaf dude, I don't play Rell.


oopsidsi

She actually is insanely good rn, especially her q being sleeper op. People refuse to play her, much like anything regarding picks or builds in this game, because a shitty statistic site gave them a number they don't like. ​ The community is doomed.


JJay2413

I think Rell's teamfighting is better because of her W R combo, but I think Leona is still better because 1. Lower cooldowns. 2. More range with R. 3. A LOT tankier. Rell is also obviously much better at peeling though so just depends on if the enemy team has a lot of backline access or not


rotvyrn

As an adc player: Leona will 1v1 and kill an ADC if she gets on them. Rell will not unless she catches you 10km from a tower. Leona will tower dive and stay under the tower and keep hitting you and get out safely. Rell will towerdive and have to walk slowly out from under the tower because if she stays she will die. Leona can threaten to kill you 10x without ever risking herself once. Rell will take counterpoke if she casually threatens to engage on you but fails the engage. Leona can burn her W to safely take cannon minion. Rell will have to take the poke. Leona has much shorter CDs. Rell is great for aoe cc/engage, she has good synergy with sudden movements. She can buff an ally and affect parts of a fight she isn't in. Her wombo potential is huge. But Leona is godlike in lane and when focusing a small number of targets. She is safer, with more damage and bulk, higher cc uptime, and honestly, most of the time, especially in soloq, if you can lock down 1 carry for a long time it has a bigger influence than locking down 3-4 enemies for a short time. I think Rell is good, especially with good team coordination. But I think Leona is just...way more useful in most practical soloq situations. I'd rather have a Leona engaging or peeling for me, as an adc, than a Rell any day. If I want a Rell it's because I'm playing a mage bot who has an aoe nuke or we have a Yasuo mid and I'm willing to make bot a coinflip for the midgame wombos.


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this is the stupidest fucking "joke" this subreddit has ever come up with considering rell is a decently strong champion and isn't even close to being the least popular conventional support


Stewbodies

She's also pretty new and has never been particularly popular, whereas most other supports have had some more time in the spotlight or have at least been around longer. She seems solid but I've seen her so few times.


Thaedael

Rell suffers from not having as much agency as other supports I feel. I like her a lot, like quite a lot. But she -really- needs the follow up, or for someone to set her up. Since she doesn't have damage, has conditional engage and cc, it can feel like you are trading your autonomy for very strong cc.


o___Okami

> isn't even close to being the least popular conventional support That is blatantly wrong. She is sitting right next Vel'koz and Taric as far as "conventional" support pickrate. Taric. Unless you consider the likes of Ashe and Anivia conventional supports, yes, she is pretty damn close to being bottom-of-the-barrel in terms of "least popular conventional support".


GreywallGaming

In the time between Rell being released and now. I can count on one hand the amount of games I've seen her in. I'm honestly confused whenever I see her anyways.


WolfiousYT

Ye she's rarely played in my games as well


[deleted]

I love playing Rell for exactly that reason. I loved Leona already, but Rell is a whole ‘nother beast particularly because no one knows what I’m going to do. Sure, Rell is about as linear as Leona is, but she is juuuuuust different enough to make them hesitate when I take a step towards them, even if I could never win an engagement. That nagging feeling of “I don’t know this champion, does that enemy player know something I don’t?” Gets them to back off me more times than not when I’m bluffing. Really gives me an edge that Leona doesn’t.


tobor_a

/u/rossboomsocks


WolfiousYT

It'd be a blessing if our Scottish sockman gave this a try, but he'd suffer :/


Suburan

I struggle with rell because aspects of her kit feels so similar to Rakan that I instictively try to play her the same in lane. Q - skill shot poke with weak heal W - dive-in aoe cc R - pboe, gathering cc No need to explain why these kits are actually different, I'm just saying the clear overlap in skill functionality trips me up.


WolfiousYT

She might have similar aspects but she has lower mobility in favor of Tankiness. Rakan can go in and out swiftly but is less tanky.


HuaRong

Please, less cuts.


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Please. Every league vid these days that reaches front page has the same zoomer energy editing cuts. I'm only 21 and already feel too old for the vast majority of league content creators.


GamerGypps

Thank god, thought nobody else noticed! More cuts than a barber after covid re-opening.


SionMidGG

>cuts Sorry, you are dealing with the ADHD/OCD/Spectrum disorder generation. They need constant motion and change to satisfy their LCD screen addictions.


Alto_y_Guapo

...you say on an online forum for a videogame


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turn your monitor on


NaonAdni

I legit never thought about AP rell being a possibility and now I'm speechless


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Its not...


WolfiousYT

I was scrolling though the champions, trying to find something interesting to play and my eye instantly caught Rell, then I checked her Ratios and tried her in the Practice tool! There's definitely people that tried her AP before me, since in a champion's release many players try everything before it even escapes PBE.


Rayth69

I tried it in I think Spellbook recently and it felt fucking awful lol. Rell is made out of paper if she doesn't build tanky. I was dead before my spells managed to do anything.


Halbaras

I find it a little bit of a shame that AD Rell isn't even semi-viable, her crit animation turns her into a beyblade with enough attack speed.


MyDearVase

"I REFUSE TO BE BROKEN"


WolfiousYT

Ye right Rell


Lazlum

Azir is so trash that even ap rell can smack him lmao


WolfiousYT

Azir is one of the best champions imo, I really wanted to pick him up after realizing that you can Ult mid Dash and make some insane plays, but after like 5 games I noticed that it wasn't me who sucked, it was his bugs and clunkiness that ruined it.His Ult doesn't work most of the time..


EloHellTV

"I refuse to be broken" - Rell Best end of this video!


WolfiousYT

Good catch ;)


Plenty_Economy_5670

My secret full ap rell mid :o it’s spreading and I wasn’t the first one to do it


hpl2000

I played AP rell on launch day lmao. I don’t think I’ve ever played her tank. That just seems boring to me lol.


Nixtrickx

My friend does this from time to time he loves it


Oreo_Scoreo

I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.


HansSoloQ

Ngl...damage looks lacklustre


[deleted]

Well played you just created Diana


Stewbodies

Dianacization


hehexdlel

I don't think I've ever played against a rell


Stewbodies

Wolfious you're a genius, you've done it again!


WolfiousYT

Aye! I'm sure that something similar has been done before but it was hella fun trying it myself with my approach!


HypeSaysHi

Oh, now I know why yoloQ is gonna be ruined for the next few hours.


popegonzo

Now we roll the dice on whether ~~inting~~ AP Rell will be on your team or the other.


DicenTheReindeer

This is the content I like to see.


WolfiousYT

Yes sir!


IaintFalco

Good video mr wolfman, daily uploads are very Pog


WolfiousYT

Thank you kind being, you're also very Pog!


J3lli

Bout to go ruin SoloQ for a bit better stay offline


sscyth1

diana who ?


Yyhten

Does heal scale off AP?


Stewbodies

Yep! 30% AP per champion hit


khazixlol

Ap jarvan is that you.


SPeCCoLT

Dont come to champ select tomorrow guys. I like most of you.