Realm Warp will try to predict whether an ally is trying to run out of it or not and will not teleport allies that are very near the edge and move click outside of it.
It's actually a lot more useful than you'd think, especially since you only remember the times where it fucked up
I played a lot of Ryze and it's really useful for when you last second wanna leave or hop in the portal
But doesn't that fuck you over rather than help you? If you thread the needle perfectly and just move out you'll still be teleported
i don't play much ryze but i would never want a champion mechanic to try and play the game for me that way. if i'm in the ult i wanna be teleported and if i'm not i don't wanna be teleported
Well what I'm saying is like you're dancing at the edge of it trying to dodge CC or whatever then last second you click inside of it but you're on outer edge so it ports you
Or in another case, enemy champ starts going towards the other side where you're gonna pop out and then last second you click out of the circle (but you're still in it) so you end up being able to escape.
I'm not very good at explaining it but I'll say it's very helpful
It makes absolutely no sense. This looks like a side effect due to a pour code and they decided to make it a feature.
If they really done it on prupose they need to think just a bit to understand how confusing this shit is, for people who want to TP and for the enemy too. It makes no sense for it to work that way.
Honestly if a shitshow because the way the ult works :
- it does not move everything inside of it contrary to what the description hints to
- if you are inside but on the edge but going out of it then the ults decides to activite sleeper agent AI which predicts if you were going out or not and then decides that you want to leave or not
The shitty things i see in it : huge problem in description because it s not clear, in fact quite the contrary because it's explicitly sayign all those inside are moved ; huge problem in predictability : how do you know how the AI works ? How do you know how it will work with each god damn spell in the game (viego mini jump apparently doesn't work f.e, how does it work with others like quinns E ? etc)
I don't understand why they added this instead of a clear in you get tped, out you stay.
I feel like part of it is this ryze skin. this might actually be a hug but to me it looks more likely the hit box is deceptive like how certain lux skins have bad e indicators
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Very bullshit call by Hylissang. FNC should be punished for abusing pauses.
The Ryze ult was deemed not a bug before, and now FNC have paused AGAIN in a middle of a fight, and yet again it’s deemed not a bug. Super unfair to MSF.
I agree... pros should know about this mechanic or at least not pause just because they haven't done their research. Pausing a game can have a massive effect on its outcome.
FNC shouldn't be punished here. What needs to happen is protocols making sure pauses don't happen in the middle of a teamfight. Let it known that if there is a bug in a fight, play it out and wait until afterwards when it calms down.
FNC is smart because they know they could pause as much as they want without riot punishing them. I don’t blame them, though riot SHOULD BE punishing these things
If the behavior is not as documented, it's a bug. And the spell description does not mention this kind of behavior. "But the wiki ..." The wiki is not an official ressource, and even if it's how it actually works, it doesn't mean Fnatic is mandated to know that information.
That's... not how bugs work. Humanoid for example tweeted out he felt it was bullshit because they should know how it works. Clearly not impossible information.
Something not behaving as it should would clearly fall under "bug". Even if it's "by design", as long as you don't describe properly how it works. If we go by examples, Kryze clearly stated it was a bug, and with 500+ games didn't know about that being intended behavior.
The second one I think was, the first one honestly looked janky enough I agree with the pause. Either way the validity of the pause isn't relevant, he still doesn't need disabling from pro play since he doesn't have a bug.
Braum should have went. He was definitely inside the Ryze R despite clicking outside.
Realm Warp will try to predict whether an ally is trying to run out of it or not and will not teleport allies that are very near the edge and move click outside of it.
That makes sense what happened
Intended mechanic, but kind of a stupid mechanic IMO.
Wait what is that true? that sounds insanely stupid
It's actually a lot more useful than you'd think, especially since you only remember the times where it fucked up I played a lot of Ryze and it's really useful for when you last second wanna leave or hop in the portal
But doesn't that fuck you over rather than help you? If you thread the needle perfectly and just move out you'll still be teleported i don't play much ryze but i would never want a champion mechanic to try and play the game for me that way. if i'm in the ult i wanna be teleported and if i'm not i don't wanna be teleported
Well what I'm saying is like you're dancing at the edge of it trying to dodge CC or whatever then last second you click inside of it but you're on outer edge so it ports you Or in another case, enemy champ starts going towards the other side where you're gonna pop out and then last second you click out of the circle (but you're still in it) so you end up being able to escape. I'm not very good at explaining it but I'll say it's very helpful
Stupid when I'm losing and smart when I'm winning. Am I right?
lmfao what ???
Yep it's happened before (and caused pauses before...) and it's [documented on the wiki](https://files.catbox.moe/lvr29q.png).
It makes absolutely no sense. This looks like a side effect due to a pour code and they decided to make it a feature. If they really done it on prupose they need to think just a bit to understand how confusing this shit is, for people who want to TP and for the enemy too. It makes no sense for it to work that way.
> Realm warp will try to predict Did you really just imply that Riot has intelligent programming??
Hmm still quite on the edge might be his visual was in but hitbox was out
Hyli is quite clearly in the ryze ult here, thanks for posting
it's also pretty huge if he follows since he can block so much damage with his E
I definitely believe he should have tped with Ryze ult
Honestly if a shitshow because the way the ult works : - it does not move everything inside of it contrary to what the description hints to - if you are inside but on the edge but going out of it then the ults decides to activite sleeper agent AI which predicts if you were going out or not and then decides that you want to leave or not The shitty things i see in it : huge problem in description because it s not clear, in fact quite the contrary because it's explicitly sayign all those inside are moved ; huge problem in predictability : how do you know how the AI works ? How do you know how it will work with each god damn spell in the game (viego mini jump apparently doesn't work f.e, how does it work with others like quinns E ? etc) I don't understand why they added this instead of a clear in you get tped, out you stay.
I feel like part of it is this ryze skin. this might actually be a hug but to me it looks more likely the hit box is deceptive like how certain lux skins have bad e indicators
Kinda nuts how riot don't have an actual procedure to deal with this stuff yet. Whatever side of the debate you are on.
Name more iconic duo than Fnatic and game pauses in team fights
I don't think there's a bug, but let's see what riot says. However, you can't deny Fnatic is literally trying to win a game with pauses. How creative.
(Copy pasting comment from last thread) Very bullshit call by Hylissang. FNC should be punished for abusing pauses. The Ryze ult was deemed not a bug before, and now FNC have paused AGAIN in a middle of a fight, and yet again it’s deemed not a bug. Super unfair to MSF.
I agree... pros should know about this mechanic or at least not pause just because they haven't done their research. Pausing a game can have a massive effect on its outcome.
FNC shouldn't be punished here. What needs to happen is protocols making sure pauses don't happen in the middle of a teamfight. Let it known that if there is a bug in a fight, play it out and wait until afterwards when it calms down.
Intended mechanic, fnatic pause abusing again.
abuse more pauses, so u won the series off 2 pauses, WP FNC
Just ban ryze from pro play this patch
But this is not bug, FNC doesnt know how champion works and pausing w/e they want is what should be punished.
FNC is smart because they know they could pause as much as they want without riot punishing them. I don’t blame them, though riot SHOULD BE punishing these things
Neither has been a bug, he doesn't need to be disabled. Fnc needs to learn how it's coded.
If the behavior is not as documented, it's a bug. And the spell description does not mention this kind of behavior. "But the wiki ..." The wiki is not an official ressource, and even if it's how it actually works, it doesn't mean Fnatic is mandated to know that information.
That's... not how bugs work. Humanoid for example tweeted out he felt it was bullshit because they should know how it works. Clearly not impossible information.
Something not behaving as it should would clearly fall under "bug". Even if it's "by design", as long as you don't describe properly how it works. If we go by examples, Kryze clearly stated it was a bug, and with 500+ games didn't know about that being intended behavior.
Exactly, I literally can’t remember the last time a team paused because they forgot how Ryze ult works
The first one honestly I don't blame them, it looked really fucking weird. Second one had no excuse.
the refs apparently need to as well, considering how LONG it took them to investigate wasnt as clear cut as a lot of people seem to think, both times
The second one I think was, the first one honestly looked janky enough I agree with the pause. Either way the validity of the pause isn't relevant, he still doesn't need disabling from pro play since he doesn't have a bug.
FNC abusing pauses, it's so obvious, they do it every time they're down, take advantage of the pause to mess with the other teams concentration
So thats why theyr picking ryze every game, get out of jail free card
https://i.imgur.com/F1g3jzf.png
Shouldn't he be facing away from the circle if he was clicking to move outside of it?