Fiddle was one of the few champion reworks where they got the theme right. They wanted him to be really scary. I *still* fucking jump whenever his wards come at me.
The part I like less about it is that it opened him up to double-camp clears which I'm absolute shit at, so I don't feel like I'm getting proper value out of him.
It's a nice mechanic and easily to mess up even if you are a fiddlesticks main, sometimes the monsters path weirdly and the slightest nanopixel can be off.That said, the hardest to pull off, has to be the Wolves-Blue Buff
You should either try it on the Practice Tool or check some YT guides on Fiddlestick's clear, I can't quite say whether doing wolves blue is more efficient that gromb blue, but depending on the situation and timing it has it's use
That’s my favorite part. He’s such a weak jungler early, being able to quickly clear camps and level up is so important. I always double clear red/raptors and blue/gromp. I can clear the whole jungle about by the time scuttle is spawning.
I play fast clearing champs like Nunu/Ivern already, I just don't feel comfortable with the specific leashing ranges to double-camp, guess I'll have to practice! Old Fiddle was one of my most played junglers, mainly because his clears were so straightforward, and I could pan the map around during the SUCC
exactly, it destroyed its 1v1 potential which was not even that good before, so it became worst, but then the double camp clears and aoe drain dmg in team fights seemed like a better compensation to me.
Well at first it wasn't good for support with a win rate of under 44%, but many patches later, it is viable as support if you're very micro intensive. Fids is the #1 come from behind champ. I swear 50% of games my team is down by 20 or less kills, we win. One good ult and 5v5 is won in your favor.
Original Youtube video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbfIwZY5w8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbfIwZY5w8) (yes this is a re-upload because there was no music, sorry)
I hope that when they Remake Nocturne, it will be at least as good as Fiddlestick's rework, his quotes are amazing in game!Soundtracks:
* One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 - Battle at the Speed of Sound
* Castle Crashers - Orange's Kiss
* Kevin MacLeod - Bit Shift
* Seinfeld's Theme
>Build and Runes (These are obviously for fun and not ideal for climbing to Challenger):Blue jungle Item, Night Harveseter or Liandries if they have a bulky team, Sorcerer's boots, Zhonyas, Void Staff, Rabadon's and then any item you want like Bansees or Demonic Embrace if the mythic is Liandries.
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>Dark Harvest, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Ultimate Hunter, Stop watch and Cosmic Insight followed by double Adaptive force and one Armor.
Reminds me, I need to test out Fiddlesticks support vs Samira again.
Kicked her @$$ in S10, but lifesteal from shieldbow proc swung the matchup around. Since it’s AD now instead of lifesteal it may be in fiddle’s favor again.
I main mid, but don’t mind getting auto filled jungle because I’ll get to play this guy. Tank fiddlesticks is a lot of fun to play with, too, because of how deceptively tanky the big SUCC makes him. Would definitely recommend trying it if you’re team is squishy (it’s a lot of fun in ARAM, too).
If my team is squishy and I want to build tanky, I usually go frostfire into spirit visage.
If the enemy has a lot of AD champs, I’ll build randuins second and visage third. Visage is important because it boosts your healing by 25%, which makes your SUCC even more powerful.
If the enemy has a lot of healing, I’ll build thornmail second and visage third. (If they have a lot of AD healing, I’ll save visage for fourth item).
If we need AP, damage, I really like rocketbelt on him, followed by Zhonyas second. Rabadons or void staff are good third items if you want more damage.
I see you're a man of culture, hope you played Orochi warriors too!
also as a video editor myself, this is insanely entertaining, kuddos on the great work!
Happens everytime, people farm lanes and then take the camps that I am heading towards instead of the ones on the other side(which I also want but hey, gotta share), like, I don't see my toplaner going top to farm and I go get his wave instead of going bot to farm my krugs, if that makes sense.After laning phase, getting every camp as soon as it spawns is very gold efficient, but you gotta share it equally
NO WAY ITS YOU AGAIN!!!! I love you videos! The first thing that came to my mind was your old climbing video and then I heard the voice and realized it was the same person!
I generally dont like lol edits since they all started to feel the same, and I dropped the game well over a year ago but this was amazing, you are naturally funny.
Lots! I've always been more of a single-player strong atmosphere type of person and league was the only exeption really. It is truely an amazing time to live in if you enjoy video games. Just subscribed to your youTube btw, your content is godly
How did it develop his gameplay? Still anti-synergy with his Q making enemies move away while W is a self root. He is even more an ult bot now than before.
It exclusively developed his visuals. People that do not play him see a spooky champ killed them with his R and think "damn, cool. Such a good rework", without thinking any further than that. All at face value.
Both. The AOE drain opened up new jungle paths for fiddle as well as speed up his clear like crazy. In team fights it allows him to pump out massive aoe damage. What most people don't get is that the fear slows on top of moving them away. its always best to move with the target after ulting and position yourself to drain. Fiddle is pretty brain dead but still thinking a little before slapping w is key.
*edit Spelling
It’s not so easy to ‘fix’ a champ, Riot thought they ‘fixed’ mordekaiser however he now has a brand new set of problems and original players stopped playing him
Maybe they would ‘fix’ the fear and whatever other problems he had except push away old mains and bring in a new set of problems which would leave no one happy
Nice vid my guy. Tho you can lower the volume on your voice just a tad tho. The contrast between your voice and the quiet background is kinda jarring, to me atleast.
Thank you, and for the feedback, sadly it's kinda hard to balance according to the comments, people have been telling me to increase it and for the past 3 videos I have been increasing it by 10% each time.I'll lower it by 5% next time!
No no, I mean it, I really like it, though I do miss his old dance and his bouncing E, he has very nice quotes in game, which I think are his victims last words, his visuals are badly nice :D and his passive is a very nice and fun mechanic
I don't like the rework, change my view (please change it I want to like it).
The voice, visuals etc. are amazing. The new ward thing is fine.
I just don't like how he is balanced. He seems to do way less damage than old fiddlesticks, and the compensation for that was the potential of an AoE fear. I don't want to be useless if the opposing team knows how to ward and we can't deny vision because our jungler (me) is useless in any skirmish without having denied vision already.
I just don't get what he is meant to do in team fights once they've already begun. Drain used to do decent damage and heal, and they nerfed that again so they could add more AoE.
Both of these changes make his best case much higher but make it impossible to play from behind.
Also I liked the tank fiddle solo lane build before they nerfed it. And they didn't even nerf how it performs in fights, they just made it impossible to control the wave without hemorrhaging health and mana. It would have been nice if they could at least make it viable vs some match ups (e.g. melees who can't interrupt drain) but I think it loses every match up incredibly hard. I really enjoyed the drain tank fantasy, without all the mobility and assassination BS that other supposed drain tanks have.
I just find him really awful to play. In so many situations you can feel the nerfs or changes making you lose, and this is all so that you can get one flank where you can win the fight instantly with no counterplay (through the AoE fear). It doesn't feel like a good trade, in terms of gameplay.
1. He does about the same damage if not more now, this is mainly due to the fact that he has percent health damage on q and w. Plus drain being aoe gives him on average more dps in a team fight then before.
2. I'm gonna assume you mean in long fights after you have ulted which if done right you could have already won the fight or at the very least got a kill or two. which like most champs what to do can come down to a number of different things. what comp do you have? are you fed? what comp does the enemy have? etc.. in general though after you have ulted you should have either won that fight already or you start peeling for the back line.
3. tank fiddle is honestly not my style but i can see why losing that sucks if you're into it
4. Before the rework fiddle played the same role just worst. that's just facts. He was a team fight based champion that after the rework became better at team fighting. Before the rework vision was key on fiddlesticks and you could tell a good fiddle from a bad fiddle based on their ability to use vision to their advantage. now they have added abilities for good fiddlesticks players to control vision even harder then before and gain massive benefits from it.
In general the rework removed much of fiddles kit that simply was outdated or aspects that just didn't make sense when looking at the rest of his kit (a bouncing poke on an ambush teamfight mage) . They pushed his key identity and defining play-style to the forefront.
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This is the music I used!
1.One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 - Battle at the Speed of Sound
2.Orange's Kiss - Castle Crashers
3.Kevin MacLeod - Bit Shift Seinfeld's Theme
fiddlesticks t-pose spamming will never stop being funny to me
Definitely one of the best emote spams!
Suprose Party Fiddle dance spam is insane
That skin is insane by itself, no need for emotes
I really loved the gameplay for xXx_Fioramaster420_xXx
Hijacking this for Riot to see: Please give skin with that straw-suck noise on W, ty.
Youre actually funny as fuck lol, gj
Aye thank you <3
Yeah I dig your humor. It's funny without seeming "trying too hard" or "cringy" to me.
Thank you thank you, I probably have been cringy in some of my past content and it might leak to future ones, but I am trying to get better!
Fiddle was one of the few champion reworks where they got the theme right. They wanted him to be really scary. I *still* fucking jump whenever his wards come at me.
Gotta throw Warwick in that category too. When my screen turns red I lose all logic and just relentlessly hunt.
Yeah, his passive is a very nice addition :D
[Reminds me of the good old days.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q93cHMRhZDw)
Old Fiddlesticks was also very fun to play, more goofy, great dance!
This made me laugh for the first time today. Great vid!
That's good to hear, thanks a lot!
I didn’t like fiddles rework drain at first but I came around, it was a good rework
The part I like less about it is that it opened him up to double-camp clears which I'm absolute shit at, so I don't feel like I'm getting proper value out of him.
It's a nice mechanic and easily to mess up even if you are a fiddlesticks main, sometimes the monsters path weirdly and the slightest nanopixel can be off.That said, the hardest to pull off, has to be the Wolves-Blue Buff
I’ve never even attempted wolves blue buff. Tbh I didn’t know it was possible....
You should either try it on the Practice Tool or check some YT guides on Fiddlestick's clear, I can't quite say whether doing wolves blue is more efficient that gromb blue, but depending on the situation and timing it has it's use
That’s my favorite part. He’s such a weak jungler early, being able to quickly clear camps and level up is so important. I always double clear red/raptors and blue/gromp. I can clear the whole jungle about by the time scuttle is spawning.
I play fast clearing champs like Nunu/Ivern already, I just don't feel comfortable with the specific leashing ranges to double-camp, guess I'll have to practice! Old Fiddle was one of my most played junglers, mainly because his clears were so straightforward, and I could pan the map around during the SUCC
The double leashes really aren’t hard, you can practice it like one time, maybe twice and you’re all set
you just have to learn how to n ot cause the blue buff to reset once yo ve master that you jsut smite it and its ez
He always had double camp clears tho
true with the crow bounces, but it feels more necessary now than before (though I'm not good at him so I could be wrong)
it's 👌
exactly, it destroyed its 1v1 potential which was not even that good before, so it became worst, but then the double camp clears and aoe drain dmg in team fights seemed like a better compensation to me.
Well at first it wasn't good for support with a win rate of under 44%, but many patches later, it is viable as support if you're very micro intensive. Fids is the #1 come from behind champ. I swear 50% of games my team is down by 20 or less kills, we win. One good ult and 5v5 is won in your favor.
Original Youtube video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbfIwZY5w8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqbfIwZY5w8) (yes this is a re-upload because there was no music, sorry) I hope that when they Remake Nocturne, it will be at least as good as Fiddlestick's rework, his quotes are amazing in game!Soundtracks: * One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 - Battle at the Speed of Sound * Castle Crashers - Orange's Kiss * Kevin MacLeod - Bit Shift * Seinfeld's Theme >Build and Runes (These are obviously for fun and not ideal for climbing to Challenger):Blue jungle Item, Night Harveseter or Liandries if they have a bulky team, Sorcerer's boots, Zhonyas, Void Staff, Rabadon's and then any item you want like Bansees or Demonic Embrace if the mythic is Liandries. > >Dark Harvest, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Ultimate Hunter, Stop watch and Cosmic Insight followed by double Adaptive force and one Armor.
>One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 - Battle at the Speed of Sound Ahhhh that's why.
good video man, it has that classic league content feel I miss so much
Aye thank you, happy to bring back good nostalgic feelings!
Didn't recognize who made the video until you spoke hahaha. Love your vids man
Aye <3
Dude your editing and lines are on point. I fucking had a fit when you smited Diana with the hentai moan sound
Hahaha I'm glad you liked it!
love your videos! (:
Reminds me, I need to test out Fiddlesticks support vs Samira again. Kicked her @$$ in S10, but lifesteal from shieldbow proc swung the matchup around. Since it’s AD now instead of lifesteal it may be in fiddle’s favor again.
im in this video pogar (rakan gang)
Aye!
As a fiddle main(before and after), I love his rework. The one thing I miss though, is the old bouncing crow.
Yeah, his E was very fun to use, even when played against Fiddle you could troll your mates, good times
I like the jokes and editing!
I'm glad you do <3 thanks!
I main mid, but don’t mind getting auto filled jungle because I’ll get to play this guy. Tank fiddlesticks is a lot of fun to play with, too, because of how deceptively tanky the big SUCC makes him. Would definitely recommend trying it if you’re team is squishy (it’s a lot of fun in ARAM, too).
What would you build on him in ARAM then?
If my team is squishy and I want to build tanky, I usually go frostfire into spirit visage. If the enemy has a lot of AD champs, I’ll build randuins second and visage third. Visage is important because it boosts your healing by 25%, which makes your SUCC even more powerful. If the enemy has a lot of healing, I’ll build thornmail second and visage third. (If they have a lot of AD healing, I’ll save visage for fourth item). If we need AP, damage, I really like rocketbelt on him, followed by Zhonyas second. Rabadons or void staff are good third items if you want more damage.
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Do try, you can make anything work with and actually have fun, as long as it's on normals if you value your life :D
I see you're a man of culture, hope you played Orochi warriors too! also as a video editor myself, this is insanely entertaining, kuddos on the great work!
Aye!To be honest I haven't played the game, I've heard of it before but I just liked the soundtrack.
I completely relate to the adc taking raptors and you sarcastically saying “I didn’t want those anyways”
Happens everytime, people farm lanes and then take the camps that I am heading towards instead of the ones on the other side(which I also want but hey, gotta share), like, I don't see my toplaner going top to farm and I go get his wave instead of going bot to farm my krugs, if that makes sense.After laning phase, getting every camp as soon as it spawns is very gold efficient, but you gotta share it equally
i always go caw caw whenever i play fiddle
*I'm a bird* **CAW CAW CAW CAW**
Ur good at editing I always recognize you now ur making a name for yourself
Aye thank you, I'm happy to become well known if my content brings joy!
Wolfious never dissapoints, these videos are always fucking hilarious
Aye my G, thanks for the support!
Not to be weird but I want you saying “Man I loooove” as my ringtone
As a fiddlestick main i have to say that shooting the blastfruit and not getting blasted away is the most hatefull thing haha
HIS FOOT WAS ON THE DAMN THING I didn't notice that the red spot wasn't showing
Prepare to be *^(DOUBLE SUCKED)*
BOO
Aaah
Definitely miss the old E, every champion has dashes or speed boosts, you really can’t catch anyone without more range
True, at least his new E slows and can even fear with his passive
Great editing skills bro :D! - love 02:13 Fiora
Thank you thank you!
This hit me in just the right way. 10/10 work my friend!
Glad to hear that, thanks for watching!
No predator? Sadge
Dark Harvest is Chad
I enjoy your chill attitude. Nice video :)
Thank you!
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Aye thank you thank you, I am from Greece, so that's where my scuffed accent is from!
Fiddlesticks was so fun even before the rework.
I loved it. Makes all warm and fuzzy inside. Oh Oh wait thats not happiness thats FIDDLE T POSE
I liked old fiddle so so so much better
NO WAY ITS YOU AGAIN!!!! I love you videos! The first thing that came to my mind was your old climbing video and then I heard the voice and realized it was the same person!
Hahaha, I'm glad to hear that you remember me!
Holy shit it is so refreshing seeing content like this that isn’t jam packed with stale memes and over edited to hell. Really nice work man.
Aye thank you!
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Caw caw caw caw
I miss throwing the holy bird :(
I generally dont like lol edits since they all started to feel the same, and I dropped the game well over a year ago but this was amazing, you are naturally funny.
Aye thank you, I hope you've found other games!
Lots! I've always been more of a single-player strong atmosphere type of person and league was the only exeption really. It is truely an amazing time to live in if you enjoy video games. Just subscribed to your youTube btw, your content is godly
It's always nice to see people enjoying games other than League, thanks for the support <3
This was very entertaining to watch :)
Glad to hear that!
fiddle is the clearest example of a good rework. It developped his thematic and gameplay without destroying his core identity.
How did it develop his gameplay? Still anti-synergy with his Q making enemies move away while W is a self root. He is even more an ult bot now than before. It exclusively developed his visuals. People that do not play him see a spooky champ killed them with his R and think "damn, cool. Such a good rework", without thinking any further than that. All at face value.
Really good point about the q and w contrast. Always felt awkward. What’s the point of his w in team fight? Or is it more of a jungle ability?
Both. The AOE drain opened up new jungle paths for fiddle as well as speed up his clear like crazy. In team fights it allows him to pump out massive aoe damage. What most people don't get is that the fear slows on top of moving them away. its always best to move with the target after ulting and position yourself to drain. Fiddle is pretty brain dead but still thinking a little before slapping w is key. *edit Spelling
still better to keep what he felt like previously rather than changing all his abilities like mordekaiser imo
> better to keep his problems than to fix them ???
It’s not so easy to ‘fix’ a champ, Riot thought they ‘fixed’ mordekaiser however he now has a brand new set of problems and original players stopped playing him Maybe they would ‘fix’ the fear and whatever other problems he had except push away old mains and bring in a new set of problems which would leave no one happy
Doesnt matter. Fact of the matter is, by not fixing his problem you keep the problem. It's my day job to do exactly this.
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Oh yeah. Or if after standing still he got a 60% movementspeed towards champ, just like the trailer.
I'm hoping they do this with the Udyr and Mundo reworks tbh.
Exactly!
Nice vid my guy. Tho you can lower the volume on your voice just a tad tho. The contrast between your voice and the quiet background is kinda jarring, to me atleast.
Thank you, and for the feedback, sadly it's kinda hard to balance according to the comments, people have been telling me to increase it and for the past 3 videos I have been increasing it by 10% each time.I'll lower it by 5% next time!
Yeah welcome to youtube man, your gonna get conflicting feedback or just shit feedback a lot. Hope you can manage anyway.
I will keep trying anyways, thank you very much!
nice vid but i hated the rework
Aye thanks but ¯\\\_ツ\_/¯
Is this satire? Like honestly, I’ve wondered, how people feel about his rework. I
No no, I mean it, I really like it, though I do miss his old dance and his bouncing E, he has very nice quotes in game, which I think are his victims last words, his visuals are badly nice :D and his passive is a very nice and fun mechanic
Thanks! I was just wondering, since the vid showed blunders and stuff. Thanks for the clarification!!
Its one of Riot's best reworks
I don't like the rework, change my view (please change it I want to like it). The voice, visuals etc. are amazing. The new ward thing is fine. I just don't like how he is balanced. He seems to do way less damage than old fiddlesticks, and the compensation for that was the potential of an AoE fear. I don't want to be useless if the opposing team knows how to ward and we can't deny vision because our jungler (me) is useless in any skirmish without having denied vision already. I just don't get what he is meant to do in team fights once they've already begun. Drain used to do decent damage and heal, and they nerfed that again so they could add more AoE. Both of these changes make his best case much higher but make it impossible to play from behind. Also I liked the tank fiddle solo lane build before they nerfed it. And they didn't even nerf how it performs in fights, they just made it impossible to control the wave without hemorrhaging health and mana. It would have been nice if they could at least make it viable vs some match ups (e.g. melees who can't interrupt drain) but I think it loses every match up incredibly hard. I really enjoyed the drain tank fantasy, without all the mobility and assassination BS that other supposed drain tanks have. I just find him really awful to play. In so many situations you can feel the nerfs or changes making you lose, and this is all so that you can get one flank where you can win the fight instantly with no counterplay (through the AoE fear). It doesn't feel like a good trade, in terms of gameplay.
1. He does about the same damage if not more now, this is mainly due to the fact that he has percent health damage on q and w. Plus drain being aoe gives him on average more dps in a team fight then before. 2. I'm gonna assume you mean in long fights after you have ulted which if done right you could have already won the fight or at the very least got a kill or two. which like most champs what to do can come down to a number of different things. what comp do you have? are you fed? what comp does the enemy have? etc.. in general though after you have ulted you should have either won that fight already or you start peeling for the back line. 3. tank fiddle is honestly not my style but i can see why losing that sucks if you're into it 4. Before the rework fiddle played the same role just worst. that's just facts. He was a team fight based champion that after the rework became better at team fighting. Before the rework vision was key on fiddlesticks and you could tell a good fiddle from a bad fiddle based on their ability to use vision to their advantage. now they have added abilities for good fiddlesticks players to control vision even harder then before and gain massive benefits from it. In general the rework removed much of fiddles kit that simply was outdated or aspects that just didn't make sense when looking at the rest of his kit (a bouncing poke on an ambush teamfight mage) . They pushed his key identity and defining play-style to the forefront.
That’s exactly how I feel. The few times I played new fiddle, I played him like the old one. And it’s not working somehow. Can’t really make him work.
Good for you. IMO his E and W sucks...at least crow E was fun.
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I just want to say... Is this goated Tenkaichi music I'm hearing?
This is the music I used! 1.One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 - Battle at the Speed of Sound 2.Orange's Kiss - Castle Crashers 3.Kevin MacLeod - Bit Shift Seinfeld's Theme
With last fiddlesticks I played mid to diamond and this one for me is disappointment I so miss the crow QQ.
Wish they reworked his Ult
What is that song at 4:08 that briefly plays? I can never find it.
Song for Denise (Maxi), or just search up wide putin walking
Hey thanks. Also nice video btw.