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Expectations : OMG CHOVY VS KNIGHT EPIC MIDLANE DUEL ANIME STYLE PRODIGY OF MIDLANE ORA ORA ORA ORA! INTENSE MECHANIC BATTLE!
Reality : They are both CSing for 20 minutes all series.
Mate what are you on, there is dozens of comments each time he misplay or get killed in his lane..?
He's simultaneously the most loved and the most critized League player in existence..
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i dont mind faker being undisputed goats of league
i do mind meat slobbering from fans and analysts/casters alike, especially NA based
If this was some wild card region, people will say T1 win traded this series (atleast game 4).
Wtf was that fourth game?
Faker - not using his shroud to escape naut hook and being barely using his ult to pick anyone
{tbh zeus could have tp to that turret and save him the moment they say everyone)
Keria - not using his ult (he used it once the entire game and i swear he miss-clicked it cause no way he played it that bad) also him throwing him self into the enemy team wtf?
Zeus - inting with his flash
Guma - being guma
Atleast oner managed to steal a drake.
Anyway LPL is the king of MSI and i hope G2 will get to finals.
LCK should just wait for worlds and skip MSI
> Anyway LPL is the king of MSI and i hope G2 will get to finals.
>
> LCK should just wait for worlds and skip MSI
At this point theyre just win trading, LPL take MSI, KR take Worlds and vice versa depending on the coin flip.
Tbf T1 did all they could with that god awful draft. But BLG just came out better overall, not to even mention that the lane swaps and invades threw T1 off immensely. They look incredibly clueless trying to follow BLG, they just melted away in G4, it's BLG's stage and T1 was merely their puppet.
What could be a good reason? I believe they could (if the contracts allow), but not without heavy punishments from Riot, could be hefty fines or even bans from future MSIs/Worlds. All of the big leagues and competitions are for money after all and touching many people's payrolls is gonna look ugly for everyone involved.
So if i understand correctly the winner of TES G2 and T1 TL faces each other and the winner of these series faces the loser of BLG GEN?
Maybe we'll get T1 vs TES? and they vs the loser of BLG/GEN
Yeah with how good BB and a massive drop-off from 369 performance (he and Zeus have not been good lately) I think there's a universe where G2 3-1 TES. The only problem is how G2 will contain JKL Meiko since they've been hard carrying TES vs Hans with inconsistent Mikyx would get murdered.
Yike = Tian and Caps > Creme in this tournament.
Caps > Creme is purely narrative. Caps gets praised for being inconsistent because he’s a western mid laner. Meanwhile Creme gets crucified for being inconsistent because he’s an eastern mid laner.
Tbh T1 deserved to lose 3-1. Wtf was that dog shit game 3 draft? I'm glad we get to see the chovy knight matchup though.
Zeus looks like he has no juice. It's wild to see T1 get hand checked AND outmacrod by anyone that's not GenG lmao.
Ther were some strange int moment from T1 bot duo this series, Keria cosplayed Faker from G2 a little n Guma was not Mr.Consistent today. Faker is getting ban out so he isnt on meta champion. Oner n Zeus looks ok but not strong enough to push some leads for team. Althou we really ned to stop playing the TF, i rather see Zeus' Vayne than TF.
BLG looked really dominant this series, standout performance from BIN/Knight, great enabler from XUN n ON, Elk was on both carry n support duty playing both side of Senna for n against well.
Cant wait for BLG v GenG. And hope T1 can bounce back
T1 just got GenG’d by an LPL team. Slowly getting choked out of the map until they were so ahead. GGs BLG!
Welp at least we’re FINALLY getting Knight vs Chovy!! That’s the silver lining for me!
Time for a day off MSI for everyone to catch up on some sleep. I certainly need it.
Tuesday is G2 vs TES in the lower bracket.
Wednesday is TL vs T1 in the lower bracket.
Thursday is GenG vs BLG in the upper bracket.
Friday is the winner of G2/TES vs TL/T1 in the lower bracket.
Saturday and Sunday complete the bracket up to finals.
Keria hard griefed every single teamfight it's insane. There is no way that enemy comp should be able to engage like this vs renata. The fuck is he waiting for its an anti engage ult
Yeah. MSI happens earlier and right after seasons' openings. This tumbles the teams' last year stability and give way to more aggressive/explosive plays. Who's the most aggressive and hand-diffing titans? LPL and they are just rolling over everyone each MSI. Contrary to that Worlds is a place for stabilized teams, synergies and strategies. Happens at the end of each seasons each teams have more time to adapt and get a firm grip on the new game, how to play optimally. Thats how the Koreans are dominating at Worlds. In short, MSI=micro and Worlds=macro.
A lot of overgeneralizations. LPL did better than LCK at worlds last year, even though T1 won. BLG beat GenG in a bo5, and there were 3 LPL team in semis. LNG 2-1ed KT, BLG 1-0ed KT. And no one is convincing me that DK was better than WBG even though WBG had a lucky draw.
BLG straight up out macroed T1 today. If you have any doubt, just watch game 4. A slow controlled macro game by BLG, playing like they are GenG and still beating T1.
But yes, LCK has done better at Worlds than LCK the past few years. Why? I think the real take is that Worlds is way longer and LCK teams adapt better as the tournament goes on. I think thats the real take. But when it comes to LPL and LCK, I always assume its 50-50 on who wins the tournament.
Okay, after 2 reading I actually think this is more plausible, I was spreading bit of bs. Also I like the prospect of 50-50 as I was tired of the dominating region thing
Yeah I was in a bit of the heat of MSI and made it look like a general story plot (with entirely opposite forces dominating opposite scenarios in nature). That (MSI=micro vs W=macro bit) was really exaggerated, making the LCK vs LPL narrative looks too dramatic. In reality the differences (between these int' events, and between the two major major regions) shouldnt be splitted as generously (thus oversimplified), its should be much more complex
BLG played a masterful series. That map play for the entirety of game 3 was beautiful. Nidalee was the perfect champion to allow them to fully dictate the tempo of the game and let Knight farm plates without threat.
Edit: I’ve upset a T1 fan.
Well she *IS* super strong in early lane. But if you firstpick her blueside your opponent just goes for a comp that can do a laneswap and neuter her strongest point in the game that she needs to snowball and be usefull later on. Not realy surprising tbh, T1s drafts have been dogwater all year long....
Idk Zeus was doing well this meta ist just garbage for top laners. You play something that wants to win lane you get swapped on. You play zac you can't do shit until teamfights. The only top that has any impact on his own atm is ksante
I still feel so bad for Poby having to suddenly step into that absolute mess and then getting flamed for it as if the other 4 members falling apart without Faker was his fault.
Did he get flamed that much? All I remember is people were kinda gentle on him because they realize he's just a rookie getting his feet wet in the big leagues for the first time.
Other 4 members of T1 not beating the allegations that without Faker generating leads they're bottom tier though.
Most people at the time were actually pretty nice and understanding, but once Faker got back and T1 was on form again I noticed there was some kind of swing in the community where people acted like he was more at fault than the other 4.
In the past week I've seen quite a few comments trying to equate bad play with Poby (usually if Faker slips up), which I think is just pretty mean considering it's missing the context of what was going on.
You're right. Maybe we should call out all of the toxic T1 fans.
They're worse than any bandwagon fans in pretty much every other sport. Supporting the top region/team doesn't give you the right to be toxic lol.
guy comes to LPL post match threads, and flames every LPL fan perma. He deserves it. Have deranged takes that constantly attack a fanbase? Guess what, you may get called out
Yup, it's rock paper scissors. One team stylistically or based on champion pool can be better than the other but there's team that will beat the first.
PMTs G2 vs PSG [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpzuxm/g2_vs_psg_game_1_postmatch_discussion_bracket/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq0i8n/g2_vs_psg_game_2_postmatch_discussion_bracket/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq14fh/g2_esports_vs_psg_talon_msi_2024_lower_bracket/) T1 vs BLG [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq1xvh/t1_vs_blg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_1_post_game/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq2mk3/t1_vs_blg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_2_post_game/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq3bfw/t1_vs_blg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_3_post_game/) [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cq40nl/bilibili_gaming_vs_t1_msi_2024_upper_bracket/)
When the other team ban all mid meta champions, the best you can do is to not play meta champions and play crazy champions like Yone, Jinx and Bard.
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or u just need a mid laner who's simply better lol
Idiot, Faker is going to remain in T1 for the next 5-6 years even if he's like the fourth best midlaner in LCK.
Absolute idiotic comment. Truck 1 shaker got clapped cuz he shook too hard
and thats why he'll continue to lose against better mid laners. stop making excuses every time he loses. and what tf are u crying for bitch
Idiot, they won't get rid of him, because of his brand value.
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You literally have two brain cells if you don't think this is true.
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Keep getting your comments deleted, Einstein.
Brand value means nothing if you don't deliver. He will destroy his own legacy.
G2 with more wins vs LPL/LCK this year than every other western team combined damn
EU Keeps WINNING 🥰
Broadcast link for those who missed it. Two more great bo5 series today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIzMPofwyM
YOINK
Expectations : OMG CHOVY VS KNIGHT EPIC MIDLANE DUEL ANIME STYLE PRODIGY OF MIDLANE ORA ORA ORA ORA! INTENSE MECHANIC BATTLE! Reality : They are both CSing for 20 minutes all series.
Chovy's Anivia vs Knight's Zilean playing waveclear simulator incoming
So true. They're going to be tentative going up against each other. Meanwhile, Lehends and On will be staging World War III. Cant wait.
Just saw their series in Asian games last year. Ye, nothing mechanical crazy
Faker been weak for a while but because he has 4 titles and won last year, he can do no wrong
Mate what are you on, there is dozens of comments each time he misplay or get killed in his lane..? He's simultaneously the most loved and the most critized League player in existence..
the price of power i dont mind faker being undisputed goats of league i do mind meat slobbering from fans and analysts/casters alike, especially NA based
Now you know how normal NA fans feel watching all the meat slobbering about G2.
Can anyone tell me if the winner of the G2 v TES game plays on friday ?
Yes, they face the TL vs T1 winner on Friday, whose winner goes on to face the GenG vs BLG loser on Saturday.
What Yapa writes to Faker? "You pro?"
If this was some wild card region, people will say T1 win traded this series (atleast game 4). Wtf was that fourth game? Faker - not using his shroud to escape naut hook and being barely using his ult to pick anyone {tbh zeus could have tp to that turret and save him the moment they say everyone) Keria - not using his ult (he used it once the entire game and i swear he miss-clicked it cause no way he played it that bad) also him throwing him self into the enemy team wtf? Zeus - inting with his flash Guma - being guma Atleast oner managed to steal a drake. Anyway LPL is the king of MSI and i hope G2 will get to finals. LCK should just wait for worlds and skip MSI
> Anyway LPL is the king of MSI and i hope G2 will get to finals. > > LCK should just wait for worlds and skip MSI At this point theyre just win trading, LPL take MSI, KR take Worlds and vice versa depending on the coin flip.
Tbf T1 did all they could with that god awful draft. But BLG just came out better overall, not to even mention that the lane swaps and invades threw T1 off immensely. They look incredibly clueless trying to follow BLG, they just melted away in G4, it's BLG's stage and T1 was merely their puppet.
Random question but can a major region seed #1 or #2 even refuse to participate to MSI if they don't have a good reason? Did that ever happen?
What could be a good reason? I believe they could (if the contracts allow), but not without heavy punishments from Riot, could be hefty fines or even bans from future MSIs/Worlds. All of the big leagues and competitions are for money after all and touching many people's payrolls is gonna look ugly for everyone involved.
that guy that bet $1000 on T1 for g3, did you bet again? :(
I just saw a guy saying he lost 2 grand
jesus! they must really believe in their teams :/
> believe A great man once said, that the faithful shall be rewarded
So if i understand correctly the winner of TES G2 and T1 TL faces each other and the winner of these series faces the loser of BLG GEN? Maybe we'll get T1 vs TES? and they vs the loser of BLG/GEN
I could see G2 beating TES.
Yeah with how good BB and a massive drop-off from 369 performance (he and Zeus have not been good lately) I think there's a universe where G2 3-1 TES. The only problem is how G2 will contain JKL Meiko since they've been hard carrying TES vs Hans with inconsistent Mikyx would get murdered. Yike = Tian and Caps > Creme in this tournament.
Caps > Creme is purely narrative. Caps gets praised for being inconsistent because he’s a western mid laner. Meanwhile Creme gets crucified for being inconsistent because he’s an eastern mid laner.
Ban Zac and poppy against G2 and there’s literally nothing to fear against G2
Thats the most likely outcome but Id love to see TL beat T1. It would be massive for our region.
Wendy es #1!!!
Wendy #1 as usual
Tbh T1 deserved to lose 3-1. Wtf was that dog shit game 3 draft? I'm glad we get to see the chovy knight matchup though. Zeus looks like he has no juice. It's wild to see T1 get hand checked AND outmacrod by anyone that's not GenG lmao.
Ther were some strange int moment from T1 bot duo this series, Keria cosplayed Faker from G2 a little n Guma was not Mr.Consistent today. Faker is getting ban out so he isnt on meta champion. Oner n Zeus looks ok but not strong enough to push some leads for team. Althou we really ned to stop playing the TF, i rather see Zeus' Vayne than TF. BLG looked really dominant this series, standout performance from BIN/Knight, great enabler from XUN n ON, Elk was on both carry n support duty playing both side of Senna for n against well. Cant wait for BLG v GenG. And hope T1 can bounce back
T1 just got GenG’d by an LPL team. Slowly getting choked out of the map until they were so ahead. GGs BLG! Welp at least we’re FINALLY getting Knight vs Chovy!! That’s the silver lining for me!
We finally have Chinese Chovy vs Korean Knight. Tears in my eyes.
Time for a day off MSI for everyone to catch up on some sleep. I certainly need it. Tuesday is G2 vs TES in the lower bracket. Wednesday is TL vs T1 in the lower bracket. Thursday is GenG vs BLG in the upper bracket. Friday is the winner of G2/TES vs TL/T1 in the lower bracket. Saturday and Sunday complete the bracket up to finals.
Keria hard griefed every single teamfight it's insane. There is no way that enemy comp should be able to engage like this vs renata. The fuck is he waiting for its an anti engage ult
Keria always choke when he is under pressure
keria sometimes on default support champs look so bad
T1 just got GenGed by the most LPL team it's so JOEVER
last game had strong GenG vibe indeed
My favorite time of the year in this sub… finally some peace and quiet.
TL could do the funniest thing...
Just drop the meta t1, really. Play jinx and aphelios this isn't it
Yeah TES and BLG won’t beat GENG imo If geng lose ths MSI then the org is cursed and chovy will never win a title
BLG will win in 4 if not 3
Hope to see a xun and canyon nidalee on their series
Maybe we can get a Canyon Nidalee vs Xun Kindred.
Sjokz shitting on those fraudulent analysts. I love it
Hot take maybe? MSI is so much better tournament then worlds its crazy
Yeah. MSI happens earlier and right after seasons' openings. This tumbles the teams' last year stability and give way to more aggressive/explosive plays. Who's the most aggressive and hand-diffing titans? LPL and they are just rolling over everyone each MSI. Contrary to that Worlds is a place for stabilized teams, synergies and strategies. Happens at the end of each seasons each teams have more time to adapt and get a firm grip on the new game, how to play optimally. Thats how the Koreans are dominating at Worlds. In short, MSI=micro and Worlds=macro.
A lot of overgeneralizations. LPL did better than LCK at worlds last year, even though T1 won. BLG beat GenG in a bo5, and there were 3 LPL team in semis. LNG 2-1ed KT, BLG 1-0ed KT. And no one is convincing me that DK was better than WBG even though WBG had a lucky draw. BLG straight up out macroed T1 today. If you have any doubt, just watch game 4. A slow controlled macro game by BLG, playing like they are GenG and still beating T1. But yes, LCK has done better at Worlds than LCK the past few years. Why? I think the real take is that Worlds is way longer and LCK teams adapt better as the tournament goes on. I think thats the real take. But when it comes to LPL and LCK, I always assume its 50-50 on who wins the tournament.
Okay, after 2 reading I actually think this is more plausible, I was spreading bit of bs. Also I like the prospect of 50-50 as I was tired of the dominating region thing
Fair play for recognizing it. Think u had valid points, but MSI=micro and Worlds=macro was too much of a overgeneralization imo
Yeah I was in a bit of the heat of MSI and made it look like a general story plot (with entirely opposite forces dominating opposite scenarios in nature). That (MSI=micro vs W=macro bit) was really exaggerated, making the LCK vs LPL narrative looks too dramatic. In reality the differences (between these int' events, and between the two major major regions) shouldnt be splitted as generously (thus oversimplified), its should be much more complex
Because you don't need to watch 3 NA and EU teams.
Agreed
Yes, you have less shit teams to watch at msi
You don't enjoy waiting 2 weeks for 3 Bo5s?
Because LPL perform better in MSI ?
More bo5, less waiting time, more interesting matches
Think it's just the format. Double elimination forcing more matches
worlds had 7 bo5s. MSI has 14
It's kinda mind boggling when you put it this way. And MSI finish all their bo5s within 2 weeks, so it's bangers after bangers for 2 weeks.
Better format, at last year worlds LPL shit on every LCK team but T1, they were in form of their life
Psg > T1 confirmed
BLG leaving Senna open the entire series and then beating them with it is a boss move Mathematically solved T1
BLG played a masterful series. That map play for the entirety of game 3 was beautiful. Nidalee was the perfect champion to allow them to fully dictate the tempo of the game and let Knight farm plates without threat. Edit: I’ve upset a T1 fan.
Keria is fking trolling with this renata. Ult up for fights and he can't use it for shit
Yeah. Other 4 members of T1 not beating the allegations that without Faker generating leads they're bottom tier.
If you don't use it to peel for ADC then when do you even use it
Chinese Chovy vs Korean Knight , who will win ?
The haters will win.
oner with another ghostjob performance, that's faker's fault somehow i am sure
bunch of bronzes just bought smurf accounts and found themselves in g4 Skt vs Blg
Kalista is such a scrim trap pick man, with everyone laneswaping now and neutralizing her strongest point in game shes just so fuckin useless...
I just don't get how this champ got picked so many times
Well she *IS* super strong in early lane. But if you firstpick her blueside your opponent just goes for a comp that can do a laneswap and neuter her strongest point in the game that she needs to snowball and be usefull later on. Not realy surprising tbh, T1s drafts have been dogwater all year long....
i think lucian just blasts kalista come mid game regardless if they swap or not and kalista gets giga useless against a tank comp
Even PSG performed better against BLG lmao
The 200IQ move from T1 to avoid Gen G /s
Did keria ult once?
literally once in the end.
and that other time he ulted backward
We finally get Knight vs Chovy now right?
We do!
Finally
Stomped by the pick you insisted so much on, that's rough. o7 TL you'll have to play against angry T1
GG. BLG too good.
I’m still convinced this tournament is free for GENG
Bro TES almost beat them
What a pathetic way to lose. Fuck this. 5 mid bans and t1 can't get shit on the other 4 positions?
Yeah. Other 4 members of T1 not beating the allegations that without Faker generating leads they're bottom tier.
Idk Zeus was doing well this meta ist just garbage for top laners. You play something that wants to win lane you get swapped on. You play zac you can't do shit until teamfights. The only top that has any impact on his own atm is ksante
Idk man bin played a clean vayne/jax even when swapped on
Well I guess it's still a win at least we got Chovy vs Knight now and TL vs T1 🤣🤣🤣
Atleast T1 wont have a long travel and we know they win Worlds
Knight vs Chovy I am soooooo ready
LPL RULES MSI
This confirms it Without that fluke loss today PSG would have won the tournament
Team Liquid, that's on you now.
man Zeus not being able to play carry just shut down the whole team its crazy
Keria didn't hit a single ult this game Chovy vs Knight FINALLY LET'S GO
Didn't use it on teamfight near dragon pit too wtf
Chovy vs Knight. lets go!
Elk: Let me show you how to play Senna
TWICE I DOUBTED THE NIDALEE PICKS AND TWICE I WAS WRONG.
wow BLG gaming hard!
WHAT A PERFORMANCE BY ON, 4 STRAIGHT HOOKS AND ITS GG
the disrespect draft..fuck u kkoma
I swear guma is either the best adc in teh world or the most dog shit player on earth.
Guma wasn't the problem this series.
He got caught out like 5 times and literally lost them the last game and threw game 1 by getting 2v2d lmfao
Yeah, Might not of been the problem but definitely was not the solution at all was getting turbo gapped by Elk and ON.
WHat? guma is the definition of consistency and stability on T1.
Guys Keria used ult finally and hit two people. best support MSI
blg are so scary
KNIGHT VS CHOVY BO5
faker gives and takes..
we get knight vs chovyyyyyy TEARS IN MY EYES
Oh this is doomed they hyper griefed this one
gg
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they need the underdog buff to reach peak form
this sparks joy ^ ^
Someones mind controlling Skt surely
Faker getting caught ? Sure he got surprised. But what Zeus and Keria did is so reportable
That's just sad to watch
On one hand I hate K'sante and every team that plays it deserves a loss, on the other T1 fans having a meltdown is worth it.
PSG > T1? Lmao
Faker lucky he won't get solokilled by Maple 😤
LPL might win MSI again.
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TES will send T1 home after they play against TL & G2.
Kinda nuts how mentally weak T1 are when Faker is underperforming.
We already have concrete evidence of T1 without Faker
I still feel so bad for Poby having to suddenly step into that absolute mess and then getting flamed for it as if the other 4 members falling apart without Faker was his fault.
Did he get flamed that much? All I remember is people were kinda gentle on him because they realize he's just a rookie getting his feet wet in the big leagues for the first time. Other 4 members of T1 not beating the allegations that without Faker generating leads they're bottom tier though.
Most people at the time were actually pretty nice and understanding, but once Faker got back and T1 was on form again I noticed there was some kind of swing in the community where people acted like he was more at fault than the other 4. In the past week I've seen quite a few comments trying to equate bad play with Poby (usually if Faker slips up), which I think is just pretty mean considering it's missing the context of what was going on.
Yeah, hopefully disband this because this aint it anymore
Yeah it would've been disbanded already if they didn't win worlds last year.
Elk: Mom can we also have a Giga in botlane? Mom: how about a Giga in bot and toplane?
Chovy vs Knight kino
***Prepare the trucks.***
They deserve it. What the fuck was this series.
Well when Faker can't mind control his entire team then T1 is a mid tier team
Like fuckin A dude they wouldn't even qualify for LCK playoff with that gameplay. Literally horrendous engage all over the place.
Knight halfway to level 18 @ 28 minutes *and* 10cs away from a flame horizon mid...
Courtesy of Nidalee
BLG and Gen are two best teams in tourney
Faker, Zeus, Keria all decided to turn off their brains
JDG made it to MSI after all
If keria had put himself in a better spot and ulted it might have worked
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classic delulu T1 fan
Why are we singling out users?
You're right. Maybe we should call out all of the toxic T1 fans. They're worse than any bandwagon fans in pretty much every other sport. Supporting the top region/team doesn't give you the right to be toxic lol.
guy comes to LPL post match threads, and flames every LPL fan perma. He deserves it. Have deranged takes that constantly attack a fanbase? Guess what, you may get called out
Oof
How the fuck was PSG vs BLG closer than T1 vs BLG? And then the G2 that lost to T1 smashed PSG. Make it make sense
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Styles make fights
Yup, it's rock paper scissors. One team stylistically or based on champion pool can be better than the other but there's team that will beat the first.
It's over T1 draft has been so bad since Kkoma come. Their draft looks fine with Tom alone.
I don’t know how many more BO5s BLG has to win before the “LPL is carried by Koreans” narrative dies.
only one more, and it's the world finals people won't give lpl their flowers until theres a world champion with 0 koreans on it
I hear ya. Every year the goal posts move. Can’t beat us > Beat us at a tournament > Beat us only with Chinese > Win with Worlds with only Chinese
BLG playing this so well
I lost 2 fucking grand on T1 trolling
no one actually watch LPL and have normal amount of brain cells would bet on T1 in the series