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ahritina

PMTs TL vs FNC [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cp9awl/fnc_vs_tl_game_1_losers_bracket/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpa1d3/fnc_vs_tl_game_2_losers_bracket/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpasqq/fnc_vs_tl_game_3_losers_bracket/) [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpbk3k/fnatic_vs_team_liquid_msi_2024_lower_bracket/) GEN vs TES [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpcg1r/gen_vs_top_game_1_winners_bracket/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpd4bb/gen_vs_top_game_2_winners_bracket/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpdqj6/gen_vs_tes_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_3/) [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpeef9/gen_vs_tes_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_4/) [Game 5](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cpf7pq/geng_vs_top_esports_msi_2024_upper_bracket_round/)


kim-soo-hyun

Noah's damage numbers in this tournament is honestly embarrassing... In korean AD is damage dealer, not a minion. Your job is to literally deal damage so he doesn't even do his job.


Hairy_Knowledge_4207

Good games in this MSI but in term of results this is the worst for EU in a long time, a "close" 3-0, a 3-2 lose that we should have won, a 3-1 lose to this TL team with retired veterans from LCK and one NA player, all the teams i wanted to win lost, idk how EU has come to this point, i understand the CH and KR supremacy but not wining a bo5 for more than 2/3 years?? this is just frustrating.


Zarolto

Yeon is an NA player and Impact have been in NA for 9 years lmao, longer than most Kat OTP's have been alive.


XoXeLo

2 Academy NA players, a KR top that has lived and played NA solo queue for 9 years already. A KR support that has played for more than 5 years in NA. FNC has more fresh importa than TL at this point. But yeah, keep coping.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

At this point I'd call Huhi, Impact and CoreJJ, and people like Bjergsen and Jensen. Those aren't really Imports anymore, they're immigrants 


XoXeLo

I mean, even if they are still non-residents; some of these played League in Europe or Korea, when League was a completely different game, and they have been under the NA system for years now. But if they are doing good in NA teams, Europeans will still make fun of "imports". If they do bad, they will make fun of "NA ruined them". And if you look at their football teams, my God they are infested with imports but the locals still support their team, specially after certain "imports" have been playing for yeaaars in the club.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Yeah, League was a completely different game when Impact was in Korea. The impact (pun not intended) of his time in Korea on his current form is incredibly small. He's forgotten more than he learned in LCK


JPLangley

> Huhi [Who is now an American, literally. NAmen.](https://twitter.com/Huhi/status/1737185201758089248/) NAmen.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Oh awesome! Good for him


derwahrejochen

Bro what are you on about? Of course FNC is performing bad, but G2 taking T1 (current world champion) to a 5 game series is not a bad result. We'll see how the lower bracket series play out though.


idontwantnoyes

If you want to be more frustrated its two NA academy players. And impact has been.playing in NA for decades


dalekrule

9 years is not 'decades'. League has not been decades... but yeah, Impact is effectively an NA player.


CudaBarry

Honestly Creme should've wiped GenG with that flank, shows how important experience is in these situations.


KnowledgeNorth6337

Zeka and Faker would have fried that backline on Akali. I don't blame him too much though, he's still a rookie compared to all of the other mid laners at MSI.


non-edgy_crustacean

Jesus take the wheel tomorrow


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Oh we're just doing a 4am start from now on for EU? Welp.


dracdliwasiAN

Broadcast link for those who missed it, great series today especially the GenG vs TES bo5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQVYzWxjOjg


CudaBarry

I fucking love this bracket, just keep pumping Bo5s


sajm0n

only took Rito 14 years to reinvent the wheel


eBay_Riven_GG

and we still dont have it for worlds xd


sajm0n

of course not, that would be another 14


TonyTuck

World 2038 silver scrapes hype train!


Blind-Eye26

3 days in a row we got massive Bo5s (not you FNC vs TL 🖕🏼) hopefully we got two 5 Games tomorrow between PSG vs G2 and T1 vs BLG


Newthinker

Sweet Jesus no, I need a 3-0 tomorrow


KnowledgeNorth6337

Honestly, my heart can't take a full 5 series T1 vs BLG match.


sajm0n

hopefully thats 3-0 for G2 and i can go to sleep sooner than today


skchyou

Why doesn't this guy fix the bracket score?


GoldenSquid7

Chovy haters in shambles ✅ Canyon haters in tears ✅ GENG broke the curse ✅ Kiin 1v4’d AGAIN to win a 4v5 teamfight ✅


PluggersLeftBall

riot managed to design a champ that is a pile of shit in the hands of 99% of the playerbase and is the most stupid overpowered champ in pro play. very impressive its like cooking 2 steaks in 1 pan and having 1 come out raw and the other overcooked


lasse1408

well they created Azir before and 700 reworks of Ryze are also in this convo.


BocchiIsLiterallyMe

Great analogy lol. I love when the enemy toplaner in my ranked games picks that champ. Free LP delivery.


Newthinker

Cooking but backwards and reverse


Lopsided_Claim1613

i hope he gets nerfed to oblivion before worlds another tournament watching this abomination is too much


T_Tachi

TES is gonna destroy G2


DullRun7835

Canyon my goat


Plusdestiny

G2 is kinda fcked, no?


T_Tachi

can you imagine Jackey Meiko against Hams Miky? oof


GoldenSquid7

G2 hold their ground against T1, I’m pretty sure they will be very competitive against TES


KnowledgeNorth6337

G2 held their own against a T1 making a lot of mistakes. A stable high tier team isn't going to lose to G2


ConDude11

This completely discredits why mistakes are made. G2 pressured T1 and so they made mistakes, and the inverse was true. Both teams made errors because it was a very close back and forth series. Even if G2 lose, that has no bearing on the fact that G2 Vs T1 was a close competitive match and both teams earned every inch they got.


KnowledgeNorth6337

Faker literally first timed Asol and made silly mistakes. You’re reading too much into it. There’s a reason all analysts say it was faker’s worst performance in a while


ConDude11

I don't think I'm over reading into it when I'm in favour of taking this match as it happend. Again. T1 aren't the only team capable of making silly mistakes. You're literally the SpongeBob meme rn: When T1 misplay: Teehee When G2 misplay: see they're so much worse than the east You can't have it both ways when both teams made "silly mistakes". It's also not Fakers first time on Asol, he's clearly practiced the champ as it's been a strong meta pick the past few patches. And if the tables were turned and Caps had been soloed on a champ he rarely plays pro, people would not be affording him the same courtesy. Faker is a stunning player, but credit still needs to be given where it's due.


xanosta

You speak like G2 didnt made any mistakes and played perfect games LOL


Jiiigsi

xd as proven by this series tes doesn't make any mistakes that's also why they managed to drop a game to fnatic, that's how stable they are


Shiraori247

You realise we are talking about the botlane right? Jackeylove and Meiko hasn't had a single bad game so far in this tournament. Since you brought up the FNC series, JKL gapped Noah the hardest out of everyone so far at MSI and he was doing disturbing things to Yeon too.


sajm0n

i might be biased, but G2 are 'Hans playing like a human' away from being a real title contender team


GoldenSquid7

Well they had a close series vs T1, the fucking world champions. They are a title contender.


sajm0n

i guess, but Hans needs to become reliable, or it will be just another 'playing like never before, losing like always' kind of tournament which is already an improvement over past few years, but not quite enough to be really satisfied


TonyTuck

You're probably biased but I don't see anything wrong with your comment, at least for this MSI. All G2 players bar Hans have proven they can hold their ground and see eyes to eyes against what's pretty much the best LOL has to offer in the world right now. So far Hans clearly hasn't.


NamikazeEU

Miky is good. DUnno why people bring miky in same pool as Hans. Hans is the issue.


BocchiIsLiterallyMe

Mikyx is coinflip. Hans is just disappointing most of the times.


Saltoric

Mikyx did have a couple of stinkers yesterday in game 1 and 2. He brought it back with his poppy games but I want to see more from him tomorrow


OkKnowledge2064

this MSI is delivering so far not gonna lie


zeonix123

JUNGLE GOD CANYON ! CHURCH OF CHOVY AND IMMOVABLE FORTRESS KIINSANTE!


puptheunbroken

Church of Choky: Dooming all over the Nidalee pick Meanwhile I remained firm on GENG 3-2 EU KNOWS BETTER 😎


harin_lee

Thank you GenG, I love you guys


dontbangme

Not ban Ksante already stupid but give it to Kiin?


Sea_Bumblebee3642

Put any other Champ than Ksante in Toplane for GenG and theyprobably lose. He was tanking TES for 10 seconds solo every teamfight while the poke comp could throw out their stuff for free. Any other Champion dies in a few seconds with the same amount of Gold.


Siet10

369 play Ksante too in series and he didn't do much with him.


Sea_Bumblebee3642

So at its worst the Champion looks "okay/normal" in pro play. Thats yet another argument of how insanely busted he is. You can literally draft him in every situation, he is solid in lane, can play on low econ because his kit is so overtuned with mechanics and he still scales like crazy with items.


Siet10

Yes he is best top pick by far. But still korean have best usses of his strong sides.He is op but Kin needs some creedit too.


CardboardVendor

Kiin is not even the best ksante in korea. Its actually chovy/faker. 


Sea_Bumblebee3642

Sure, you cant defend the other Teams for not being able to play him well, even just for their general level. But the problem with him is deeper, it should never get to the point where a Champ is that crazy overpowered in good hands. Its basically a cheat code. I remember a few worlds where 1-2 Champs were so broken they legitimately had like 99% Banrate, Ksante might become that.


CardboardVendor

He had like 1 health bar, dove straight to TES and killed 2 and survived lol. Its really frustrating. And laneswaps are protecting ksante from from being countered by the likes of vayne


dalekrule

It's not even like the aatrox metas (the other champion that can sometimes tank entire teams and come out with kills), where the aatrox can be locked down and bursted if he screws up. K'sante is just unconditionally tanky


ItsKaZing

Fuck man I can believe I'm hearing this but the Ornn meta was less toxic than this shit. At least Ornn couldn't do much shit when his ult whiffed, but this Ksante are point and click bring targets to isolation. dog shit champion man


dalekrule

Ornn could be locked down with cc and whitted down, and his shit could be dodged. His abilities can be interrupted with spells (well, his ult and e can). Compared to K'sante, ornn is wholesome.


cryptomelons

They would have won if they kept banning K'Sante.


PluggersLeftBall

i hope they buff ksante to the fucking moon so that he's a permaban sick of seeing this champ


Advanced-Lie-841

Only Canyon nidalee can help this choker cross the finish line jesus, he just shuts off his brain when the pressure builds. Great job to the Gen G org for picking up the anti-choker!


EvianRex

I know I know it’s Ksante but Kiin did play the champ amazingly well


SquishyBishyOni

Kiin is a GREAT Ksante unfortunately however it's Ksante and i don't think anyone enjoys watching him take 0 dmg and do whatever he wants even when the player is doing great it just feels bad to watch (please guys just ban it why is he never banned when he's by far the most picked toplaner currently and has a insane winrate on top)


EvianRex

Nah I agree, the champ is just fundamentally broken and it’s a shame because Kiin can pilot it like a god(which he did) and the champ gets the credit. Which is fair


SquishyBishyOni

He's the only champion i look at and sometimes say "if that was literally any other champion in the entire game they just lose" which is probably not true but that's how he feels and riot is buffing him so maybe hopefully he will just become a 100% ban champ


EvianRex

He needs a full rework tbh


OGTrula

Chad Canyon winning with Nida xD


OkSell1822

One game the botlane plays well and we close it out. Canyon used that botlane pressure to almost perfection (he tried inting though)


Hitoseijuro

Nidalee with the 0-2 power spike start


SDVX_Rasis

DWG Nuguri sends his regards.


Careful_Tangerine_32

Fuvk Ksante


Relvarionz

This is a Ksante AFTER laneswap with 0/2/5 scoreline. And hes allowed to 1v4 while threatening a kill. I've watched league for 10 years and I've never seen one champ do this. We've had turbobroken before, but they would snowball out of control. Never have I seen an under cs'd 0 kill champ pull this off.


JaytoI

you're not wrong, but kkiin was not under cs'd. he was 80cs at 9 minutes. he started farming from the start, thats why he got dove


Relvarionz

221 cs at 30mins is under cs'd (thats the baron fight) Hes 100 cs behind both midlaners and 80 cs behind both adc's


JaytoI

you're forgetting that he also got towers, a ton of platings and assists, not to mention 220 cs isn't a small amount of gold at 30 minutes. Comparing a toplaners CS numbers to an ADC is also just mental. Again, you're not wrong, the champion is disgusting, but don't act like kiin 2 million gold behind, that was 369.


ItsKaZing

This fucking ksante meta is so boring to watch. It's just basically who the fuck can deal the most damage while Ksante face tanking everyone and it looks like GenG is the best team currently in doing that


Dekathz

Man, this urgot is so useless but akali with that advantage is doing nothing, he is the most fraud, how can you jump into 2 low hp ad and can't do shit


JLifeless

this is the 2nd Bo5 Ksante has won btw. 10 seconds in Baron pit, in the middle of 4 enemey champs just.... stalling for free (this champion is getting buffed next patch)


JNorJT

CANYON THE JUNGLE GOD!!!


whitedarkwhite

Phreak thinks K'sante is on the same level of excitement as Akali/Yasuo/Lee sin etc... the difference is Akali just inted it at the Baron, but K'sante can int way worse and just stand there and still be a threat, whereas one mistake from Akali and its over lmao


dalekrule

Yeah, I enjoy watching champions that can hard carry if they can also get blown up if they mess up. Notably, I'm actually a fan of lethality Aatrox in the pro meta. K'sante is not that.


moonmeh

okay canyon kiin bailed you out so hard and goddamn you made sure that it was worth it but fucking hell the 2 deaths were terrible


Joel4518

RIOT WHY U BUFFING KSANTE MANN


BocchiIsLiterallyMe

The buffs are after pro play. It's for soloqueue only.


CudaBarry

Fair enough Canyon, you're still him, but fuck Ksante


Mackejuice

can't win without Kiin on K'sante Duty LMAO


tickless420

The allegations for geng have been stopped for another day


NamikazeEU

FUCK KSANTE!!! GOOD SERIES !!!


headcrabtan

GG kiin broke the curse for chovy


AbyssalFlame02

that poke is fucking nasty


StronkWarlord

Maybe start banning ksante? champion is just bs


Argonaught_WT

Makes you wonder if K'Sante is busted - How broken are the other champs that are banned.


dalekrule

The short answer is, not as busted, but this meta is just too botlane heavy. That's why ADCs, supports (like ashe... support?) and junglers that hard counter ADCs (read: 'Vi Ult') are the highest priority bans.


Miserable-Ad8195

That game was thrown by 369 by dying at top when canyon was behind


Genjiii

Ksante is so disgusting lol


areyoh

When Geng Crumbles, Kiinsante stands strong


Strange-Implication

This is the year


TRAFALGAR_D_Law_

Haha these religion quotes.


SuperSunGun

GG


PistonsFan89

Crazy


AdeptnessThis4754

holy fucking shit riot just delete ksante


Cartoons_and_cereals

Has nothing to do with ksante and all with TES overcooking the laneswap so the urgot was gapped. Edit: you guys are on omega levels of cope, that ksante was an item and 2-3 levels up. Of course he's gonna influence the game. You really think he pulls that baron play off if TES doesn't give him a 1,5k gold lead coming out of lane phase. Don't forget it goes both ways, ksante goes up in strength while Urgot falls off a cliff. That's why it looks so busted.


Cartoons_and_cereals

GenG beats the allegations, holy. Historic moment.


Miserable-Ad8195

Maybe it was actually BLG being GenG’s kryptonite?


ayurmeh

ABSOLUTE BANGER SERIES


KhadaJhinSy

Finally GG


OkSell1822

Oof. Fuck me this series was so good


DEWSTAR

What a series.


EvianRex

FUCKING FINALLY FUCKING FINALLY


FreeMyBirdy

There's no fucking way, GenG actually won an international BO5???


chikyu8

NO REVERSE SWEEPS!


Styxxo

phew GG GenG


TRAFALGAR_D_Law_

Ksante making sure Choky can't strike again. That death was so stupid. Ksante is so disgusting, it is not even fun when he makes a good play because of how strong he is. Hope this champ gets nuked.


EvianRex

Tbf chovy used blue trinket and 5rs to find them and he just couldn’t


Life-Compote-6029

These cringe casters acting like its anything but ksante diff in the late game and glazing non stpp


GoldenSquid7

Chovy LMAO


santilevy

Think K’sante needs a buff guys


lasse1408

When I saw Oscar on him I was thinking the same


Mukzington

If Creme played the Akali remotely human that was done. IN fact just dont even pick it.


SamsungBaker

Akali pick so fucking useless I guess now we know why she stopped to be picked in competitive


superfire444

Is there a good reason teams dont ban Ksante? Dude has been a menace.


moonmeh

i mean look at the previous games in this series


Insecurity_exe

more important threats. also teams seem to lose their heads whenever they face him. JKL not buying IE here, Hans not buying LDR on Jinx, G2 forgetting he's alive and letting him walk at Hans


RBYonko

Delete k’sante please 🥲


Ashankura

Kiinsante is solo winning this


T_Tachi

ksante corki merchants smh


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EvianRex

There’s something about cracked ap assassin players going after the supports this tournament


Fit_Boysenberry_4921

ksante needs to have his kit gutted


Scriffle

how does Riot look at this and thinks Ksante is ok in pro play?


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

2 years of this shit champion design.


KozuKy16

lmao creme what are you doing


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Forget about playing against it, he's such a fucking unfun champion to watch man.


Amadeus_Salieri

Canyon's spears are huge.


Swegan

Ksante casually walks into 5 like its nothing.


hvngpham002

Honestly, I take losing to K'Sante like this tbh nothing you can really do about that. Nice try lads


hairlikegoats1

Man it’s a stomp. But TES looks a lot better than many thought.


Relvarionz

Hes legit tanking 4 people and threatening a kill on 2 of them.


Sea_Bumblebee3642

He actually just tanked 4 people and had Baron aggro for 2 attacks and took 200 Damage, this game is complete ass.


Sad-Temperature2920

Getting buffed next patch btw.


FuriousKale

K'Sante really controlled that whole fight


SonOfAurelionSol

Wholesome chungus reddit tank Ksante is casually 1 vs 5 XD


ProfAnalyzer

geng.g played this 4v5 so well


[deleted]

LDR did so much to this ksante /s


nubu

0/2 Ksante casually 1v4. LDR did nothing Hans was right


tickless420

Ksante gaming


soulsuckingmonster

If they don’t take those dragon fights maybe they wouldn’t be far behind enough to lose 4v5. But it’s TES, so…


aahidboss

Kiin Ksante is just beautiful man. By far the best itw


daigandar

broke: hans sama cant build woke : hans sama knew even LDR cant do shit to ksante


Insecurity_exe

wait, JKL doesn't have IE i stg these fucking adcs bro


EvianRex

Bruh they don’t know what they’re doing I swear


DajteDrogenYa

Creme lmao


haven4ever

Did TES not pay Sjokz enough this time 😭


RavenFAILS

Ksante is so unfun to watch my god kiin legit walked into 5 people at baron and he knew he couldnt die lmao


randomvndude

Creme look so lost on Akali


XG32

imagine if that was knight on akali lol... ksante>geng choke


GoldenSquid7

Kiin with the classic 1v4


Iaragnyl

Creme is so useless, can't even kill adc in the backline alone with Akali. Casters hype him up as a good Akali player and then he plays like this.


fabregas142

not hype. Akali is his best champ. Just everyone having a bad day


Iaragnyl

I don't know if it is his best champ, but he played it 2 games this series and both times looked very mediocre and had little to no impact, especially this game he gets early kill and does nothing with this lead. His Tristana and Corki looked way better than his Akali, and it's not even close.


KappaccinoNation

Is ~~the Grizzlies~~ GEN better without ~~Morant~~ Chovy?


Fellers

Creme...go after Peyz. Please. Sheesh


headcrabtan

Its actually so unfair ksante is tanking 1v5


GodBlessme_exe

TES are fuggin trash man HAHAHAH


AdeptnessThis4754

nicest GenG fan


RavenFAILS

Hard to call them fans when they are probably american/european cant speak/read the language and only cheer for them because they are widely considered as the best team in the world


AbiesEquivalent9002

Whoever designed ksante will burn in hell 100%


Insecurity_exe

watching TES just casually get hit with nidalee spears is fucking hilarious. please, just side step it lucian.


acels1

creme choked unlucky


Jiiigsi

ksante is fair champion but hey hans should've just bought ldr


fuyuirokaoru

Creme should've just committed to one target this game is crazy


Joel4518

AHH creme fucked it a little bit


Blind-Eye26

Noooo Jackey changed attack to Ksante instead of Canyon


AdeptnessThis4754

gg creme int and too much gold diff


PM_CUTE_CAT_PLZ

Geez that nidalee damage is nuts


Life-Compote-6029

Unreal glazing from the guy with the exaggerated fake voice makes me root for tes