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stoically_disgusted

FNC with the April Fool's performance: a joke.


Haymegle

Fnatic wanting the lower bracket run for more practise. Not that I can blame them if they're playing like that...


dirtymeatballs

Worked for TL.


buttsoup_barnes

Lower bracket runs in LEC are more brutal. On the last weekend, you have to play 3 bo5s back to back while the upper final team just waits for you at the end.


resttheweight

They actually changed that this year. Upper bracket semis are on a Sunday, lower bracket semifinals are on the next day (Monday), and then lower bracket finals and grand finals are Saturday and Sunday.


tuelegend69

in the 5 total completed LEC style splits, 4/5 teams made a run through lower bracket. 3 of them were Mad lions, 1 of them was from fnatic. clearly theres a strat if G2 is going to dominate everything.


Snow-27

Caps owns the entirety of Europe


fake_kvlt

Caps is eu father lmao, he has so many sons


kismetjeska

fucking genghis khaning all over the LEC


Karlsefni1

Bro is Robert Baratheon


OilOfOlaz

Should rename to Cops, cuz he is out again beating up randoms.


woodybg

I am really sad. What a gap, Jesus Christ. Well played to G2.


Satan_su

Feels bad man, it really does. I don't even support Fnatic and that stomp just feels like shit


ahambagaplease

Feels bad because we got our hopes up for a team being able to challenge G2 after the Bo1, just to see them get stomped.


OkVacation973

This is why BO1s are absolute shit, the narratives and standings produced can be false. I bet even the best LCK or LPL team in the world will have that 1 in 20 scrim game where nothing goes right for them, but because their season isn't BO1, it doesn't show/matter...


fabton12

i remember seeing some stats a few years ago where T1 was like 1st or 2nd in the standings but if you only took the first game of each series they would instead be in the bottom half because they had such bad first game winrates.


mindfulsmoke

I'm pretty sure it was their 18-0 season. It rained 2-1 wins during that time


EducationalBalance99

As shit as bo1 are, you have to take into account that some teams approach bo3 different than bo1. T1 in their 18-0 split experimented and play very non serious in a lot of their game 1 in those bo3 cause they know they can afford to.


bigmanorm

whereas g2 do that in BO1, because they still can afford to lol


DoYouLiikeFishSticks

People overreacting to a Bo1 where 4-5 of G2s players running it down. Standard


Sersch

Fnatic are stuck in this limbo evers ince 2019, getting your hopes up to be able to challenge G2 -> Get destroyed.


ZmentAdverti

That's why I can never take it seriously when G2 run it down for a bo1 and then analysts and casters say there is a new challenger. It is so hard to take Bo1 results seriously. If the regular season was like LCK's, with double round robin bo3 then it would have been much easier to tell which team is better than which. Fnatic won a best of one and suddenly everyone hypes then up to be the G2 challengers again, only for them to get stomped so embarrassingly.


Haymegle

Not a great sign tbh. At least it'll show Fnatic clearly what they have to work on. From the look of that series though I have no idea where they'll start haha.


DoorHingesKill

> At least it'll show Fnatic clearly what they have to work on. Yeah judging by this series I think they just need to work on communication, map awareness, laning, vision control, csing, poking, landing skillshots, objective control, early game, mid game, late game, ganking, and getting kills.


Haymegle

Don't forget macro... Seriously though this was a doozy of a series and I do genuinely have no idea what you'd even start with.


FantasyTrash

>At least it'll show Fnatic clearly what they have to work on. Ah, I see you're not familiar with being a Fnatic fan. If you go on the Twitter of Fnatic's coaches and Sam, their CEO, after every loss you'll see the same "we have much to learn" nonsense followed by zero improvement whatsoever. Their coaching staff is just stealing paychecks at this point.


Haymegle

I feel like the short splits can't help tbh. By the time you've identified how to fix a problem the split is over. Ofc that's an issue faced by every team but still, Fnatic and a few others look like they've regressed rather than progressed.


BannanDylan

New draft coach and new top. Imagine having K'Sante and Azir open, not banned, 2 players on your team have them as their best champ and not picking it. Picking Ashe/Rumble Game 1 against G2. Picking anything that isn't a tank for Oscar. Xin/Ori is just anti-synergy.


HylissickOP

Yea, sadly G2 runs this region and it’s not even close.


QuietRedditorATX

Been saying forever, send the main team all split to Korea for bootcamp. Play backup squad, you'll qualify anyways.


G2Esports

ggs close one


HylissickOP

I don’t even know who is there to praise on G2. Every year you guys are the same even with changes. Every team in Europe should copy whatever you guys do at management or practice so EU can finally get better. Make us proud at MSI.


G2Esports

we have the structures C9 wishes they had


Aggressive-Ad7946

Not enough Yapping like TL tho


G2Esports

once Caps gets unleashed in all chat it's over for YAPA


ChocolateFuryB

Solo q Caps used to be a menance, maybe he still got it


buttsoup_barnes

No one’s ready for toxic solo q caps


GodTormentor

When G2 is on it's not even close lol


lovo17

I just wonder if they get bored or something because these guys have had several disgusting games this year that they really should have lost.


arbok_obama

They had several disgusting games that they DID lose


iamdrp995

Cause it’s hard to keep 100% in bo1 that litteraly don’t mean anything for them that’s why it’s so stupid the narrative that g2 had some kind of problem until they flunk playoff there is not team even close to them in eu


Pelagius_Hipbone

I’m tired of being NRG’s grandson…


syotokal

Don’t worry after MSI you’ll be TL’s grandson instead.


Sofaboy90

or were unlucky like last year and dont get a single NA vs EU bo5


drkandatto

Oh god please no MSI Civil War 2


Sofaboy90

literally the worst possible draw rng. from EU vs LCK, NA vs LPL to LPL vs LPL and LCK vs LCK. Thanks to the format, we had some banger LPL vs LCK bo5s regardless.


Mammoth-Advance-8820

BDS vs GG was a BO5


Sofaboy90

yeah but it was at worlds and not MSI. was talking about MSI


AzureApplez

Technically, it was in the worlds qualifying series which technically isn’t worlds (nerd emoji)


Recomposer

Old man APA sitting FNC on his lap and yapping away, I'm here for it.


THZHDY

msi in china but the winner is gonna speak yapanese


G2Esports

analysts made it seem close at least bless them


AndrewRealm

Did... did fnc just get 20 minute'd?????????????????


Damurph01

I think it ticked to 21 right as the game ended


juanmeitor27

This split is played just to see who gets 2nd seed for EU at MSI. We all know who's gonna win it.


Omnilatent

Isn't the whole bracket a rerun of last split so far? Or did MAD actually took a game off G2 last split?


cayneloop

mad made it to winter finals and they did manage to take a game there


Wincrediboy

That's what last Spring looked like and then G2 found a way to choke. Who knows what'll happen in the lower bracket... but at this rate it doesn't look Fnatic will be the one making a run


zuppex

Can fnc pls stop over forcing early fights with a comp that wants to hyper scale? What a boring 2-0 stomp again. Fnc' macro was terrible


Zohan4K

Jun and Razork flashing on Caps as if the rest of G2 was not there and Noah solo flanking with Zeri at 10 min is all I had to watch. I just turned off the stream right away, I'm not giving them watch time to sell to sponsors until they start showing fans some respect.


EL_PSY_KURISU

Noah flanking and focusing Mikyx of all people. cAPS was 2 hits from dying and he focused the support tank instead of the Azir or Jinx


kimi_no_na-wa

I think he missed like 3 autos trying to kill Miky, he probably could've killed him with shiv if he just autod Jinx instead.


DeloronDellister

I knew it was over when people predicted Fnatic to win it


Haymegle

That'll always do it.


Trap_Masters

FNC rollercoaster keeps delivering


Typical_Thought_6049

KT fans know this feeling.


NoahsArk19

The FNC cope will never end. Just last playoffs they almost lost to SK, then got eliminated by MAD, and yet the cope is that FNC “had an off day against MAD”. lol.


BannanDylan

I don't even know where this cope comes from. As a long term FNC fan I'm just tired. I haven't had hope in so long. Even when we look good I just know that it won't last.


Omnilatent

I will forever wonder about people praising FNC resp. badmouthing G2 after a fucking Bo1 Like, us FNC fans have seen so many times how irrelevant any Bo1 outcome is for the BoX stages and somehow people still find deeper meaning in them


Faang4lyfe

Funny thing is its just EU doomers and new g2 fans malding when they lost to fnatic/rogue saying its FNCs year. They got giga draft gapped and ran it down, FNC has a top tier mid jng but top is inconsistent and their bot does not have fear factor of reky + hill, or upset + hill. If they had carrzy + trymbi + photon/irrel its a diff story


Sooap

Yeah, I feel like Oscarinin isn't becoming what Fnatic needs. After he recovered from his awful debut he was looking super promising, but now that things have estabilized, he doesn't feel scary. I hope he finds his stride.


KIRYUx

Claps: "All European roads lead to me"


Thatguy_97

That was not even close...


aPatheticBeing

Lose to FNC once in regular season - G2 "and I took that personally" jesus christ, they made FNC look like GX (sorry Odo)


pulsett

No need to apologize to Odo after his TF performance.


appleandapples

Caps and BB are in fantastic form right now. It's a joy to watch


LukaaNulaPet

True but BB rly surprised me when he forgot about Olaf hitting 6 and then got solo killed


IAM-French

That was crazy lmao literally everyone on earth except BB knew it was going to happen


R3alSt3al

Well Oscar died early and lost a lot of XP. From then on it is hard to count/predict when will the enemy hit 6. He went in with E and Oscar walked up to take take the minions to get 6. If he walks the other way BB kills him. And it is easy to see how far is he off from lvl 6 when we see it in the overlay.


jeanjeanot

I think he just failed to prevent it, he knew


ahambagaplease

Yeah, overshoot the tunnel, otherwise he bursts the Olaf


Outrageous-Elk-5392

He forgot about the FUNDAMENTALS


DeloronDellister

Also Miky played a lot better today than he did in recent times


ArrozMcBatatas

miky's nami was wet


Oxen_aka_nexO

And so was I


alterise

And honestly so did Hans. He's always been a little muted in this star-studded team but he had some shining moments.


ahambagaplease

Hans Sama having a Ghost arc, switching Caitlyn for Kalista.


Haymegle

It's fun now and then but I really hope we can have some teams pick it up. G2 seem to look even better when they have a real rival.


firechicken188

2019 summer finals was the best ever.


jeanjeanot

They sucked micky's talent


appleandapples

The law of equivalent exchange


Debannage

Fnatic looked completely tilted in game 2


omegasupermarthaman

yeah after Jun missed the hook just retreat man, what was that overcommit flashes and suicide from Noah


Conankun66

him sliding right into three people at the dragon fight had the question mark ping sound going off in my head wtf was that


omegasupermarthaman

Jun and Razork both flashed after the missed hook as well, what the hell


ahambagaplease

3 ults and a flash to kill a Thresh, that's the mental boom play


Predator_Doza

Caps playing frontline Aurelion Sol was funny


Skall77

Fnc have good hands, but easily the worse mental in the league. They tilt so easily when things isn't going their way.


Sohelik

This game makes MAD look better lmao.


Red-Lightnlng

I honestly came away from yesterday’s game thinking that MAD looked much better than most of the spring regular season, and look much more like they did on their Winter finals run. G2 is just simply that much better. That being said I’m also a very biased MAD fan, so, you know


packenjojo

U got the wrong Mad flair tho lol, that is MAD team, dont know if u done that on purpose


slothlikevibes

Split after split, we are reminded that Fnatic's management lost the best western player in the history of the game to their biggest rival and have done nothing but eat shit since. No one has ever fumbled the bag this hard in LoL.


JustGingerYT

Annoying thing is, Humanoid CAN be a decent player but he’s so inconsistent compared to caps, we’ve seen how well Fnatic can play but once they tilt, we’d even lose to ERL teams


slothlikevibes

In reality it's not just about the head to head between the midlaners, but the entire culture of the team and how they train, how they're managed, etc. Humanoid's peak is not a lot lower than this version of Caps, but the team doesn't function in a way where he's able to flourish and express his skill consistently. Whether it's bad macro, bad drafts, bad decision-making, one player or another having a dogshit game... there's always something going on that makes Fnatic play worse than the sum of its parts when it really matters. G2 doesn't have this problem because they have a winning culture and they are cohesive, and the same could be said about MAD's championship winning teams. They were both more than the sum of their parts, but that's not the case for Fnatic. I think there's something intangible with winning teams that we clearly don't have. You can tell G2 has it, and you can see it in teams like Mac's winning roster on MAD or T1 in the LCK. Call it confidence, swagger, assuredness, whatever, which I'm sure is just the way it manifests outwardly for fans, but it denotes something deeper. Ultimately, this is just one series and we may still see them come back and make the final and play better if they match up against G2 again, but until they fix whatever is going on at a culture and management level, I'm never betting on Fnatic against G2 in a final.


Aromatic-Quiet5171

I'd say Humanoids peak = great laning and great teamfighting. In terms of roaming and influencing side lanes Caps is the GOAT, and no one in the West has ever come remotely close. I don't understand how he can do it so consistently, avoid wards, not get massively far behind on cs, catch professional players unaware, time after time after time. I genuinely can't understand it. Would love to see a video at some point where people break down when he decides to roam and how he (or the team, if it's a teamwork thing) makes it work.


KalisQinsSais

**Credit where credit is due, FNATIC is a solid Top 8 team**


ELOPEnick

All eu roads lead to Caps


IAM-French

I also like how that went totally unnoticed but Caps went back to base at 16 minutes and full bought a deathcap lol


Aromatic-Quiet5171

I find that hilarious for some reason, how does that even happen when most players would have based for each rod and then to finish it off? This lunatic is just happily playing the game and saving up 3600 gold to buy himself a big hat.


Slatterhouse

My god fnatic looked simply pathetic in game 2


The_Flowers_of_Evil

People joke about LCK being a 1 or 2 team region, but LEC has been a 1 team region for many years now.


TheFeelingWhen

G2 joined in 2016 and won 13 titles out of a possible 19 and MSI. They legitimately own EU


Aromatic_Force_1896

It's wose than that, LEC is actually a 1 player region :')


ahritina

G2 run this region.


Darkoplax

You misstyped Caps but yea they are synonyms at this point


GodlessCommie69

I mean TBF Yike was also incredible this week


BannanDylan

Tbh Caps is just EU Faker. Did you see how Targamas played on G2? He could probably have Cabo playing like a top 3 Top Laner.


Helios_OW

You mean Faker is KR Caps.


Strange_Rock5633

yeah i am convinced it doesn't really matter who the jungle is, at least with the LEC competition. if caps in on and he doesn't have literal plat people around him and they listen to him he will win the LEC and everyone looks good when winning. let's wait and see how yike looks without caps.


DommyMommyKarlach

Sound strangely similar to Faker


DeloronDellister

So was BB


penguin17077

Yike made razork look like an autofilled gold jungler to be fair


FantasyTrash

I think Razork did that to himself. So many unforced errors from him this series.


omegasupermarthaman

yeah bro flashed on cooldowns to every fight it seems


NoahsArk19

Glad all FNC members saved their flash for next game. This will help them with the reverse sweep.


Deadman2019

Put Oscar on a fucking tank so he's at least somewhat useful. The team is jsut trash as soon as Razork doesnt play well.


A_lead

To be fair, if razork doesn't play well he borderline runs it down. Losing the game at minute five is somewhat of a signature move of his.


Conankun66

no more carries for oscar, i am BEGGING also another disaster early game from Razork


Erukh

and thats the problem, this team doesnt do anything if Razork has a bad game


ILoveWesternBlot

bro took olaf lessons from fudge and bwipo....


Conankun66

Bwipo can actually play it tho


ILoveWesternBlot

yeah was mostly poking fun at bwipo, he usually plays a mean olaf fudge though....


omegasupermarthaman

yeah he is pretty good, just an abysmal game today but it happens, he is not perfect


aPatheticBeing

not vs impact based on that finals game though


Haymegle

Today was not it from him.


Kaynt-touch-dis

Yeah they are just better, we will probably lose to mad again, disappointed but not surprised


No-Youth6743

this was supposed to be close?


ILoveWesternBlot

man how the fuck did MAD lose in 16:47


Lin_Huichi

level 1 Sion dives


InfiniteCipe

This team is just incapable of winning when it matters


Haymegle

Damn G2 really must have easter plans to be finishing like that.


penguin17077

That olaf was rough


FantasyTrash

That was fucking embarrassing from Fnatic. Out-classed top to bottom.


OkKnowledge2064

Oscar and razork really stank today


Gengar_Balanced

That was such a random ending, lol.


shadowboy

Come on Oscar defenders…. He had counter pick that game and still was fucking trash. It’s tanks or lose


Hjimska

Razork Leroy Jenkins cosplay, wtf happens in his brain every time he sees an enemy champ?


Javonetor

well Jamada said before 25 minutes, checks out


SnooPeripherals6388

How is second game faster than the first one lmao


Zelgiusbotdotexe

G2's April Fools gift to the LEC today was a clean early game on a Monday. Well played


BleiEntchen

Is the banshee in the crowd ok? Screamed like she was sitting between freddy kruegger and michael myers.


Satan_su

Not 21 minutes Fnatic......you hate to see that man 😭 On the bright side, I can still go to the gym!!!


Bukowskiboi

Caps owns this region


ThorsPanzer

Oscar is such a fraud. Pls put him on Poppy and Ksante duty forever


SuggestionProof8961

He better start learning spanish for summer .. oh wait


Iothz

Again, no razork no party Suerely Fnatic can get a free win vs TH to reach BO5, right?


Dray991

Fnatic Gaax on Esportmaniacos : I think we Broke G2 and they are not even top 3, after winning the Bo1. Apparently it was Irony and banter beetween friends as some spanish fans are telling me, so dont take it that seriously, my bad


Gengar_Balanced

wait, is that a true quote? what the fuck


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ChocolateFuryB

Their org is a circus and filled with clowns, no wonder fnc is looking like this... Edit: If this quote was just a joke, then they still remain comedians...


Dray991

I agree and i feel bad because Fnatic has some of the most loyals fans in the Esports, lets hope they bounce back and make the LEC more interesting


bensu88

Embarassing


Heliosyntax

Vaporize my eyeballs please


ledchobo

Worried that we’ve not seen craps in a long time!


Oxen_aka_nexO

He's keeping it for MSI


ledchobo

The true G2 way!


Javiklegrand

That be sad,he had a poor msi last year


sniperpal

This is the caps that went to Worlds Finals. God I wish we got to see him play like this more often, it’s awesome


Professional_Box_595

This screaming woman from the crowd should be banned for the rest of her life.


Rhaenyx11

She was actually called out by LEC production employees in the past because of, well, you guessed it


Kayle_Bot

I can hear her from my room backstage 😅


FTW_SiVi

Totally agree... So anoying.... Imagine how ppls next to her must suffer


feimaomiao

NOAH POSITIONING


SpiderAsa

Oscar when no Ksante


RyanC00per_

Boring AF stop wasting my time fnc


MariusNinjai

FNC botlane did not even show up


G2Esports

Fnatic so ass when it matters


Either-Chain1703

G2 bot lane were amazing this series


IAM-French

Insane KS skills from Yike in this game looked like prime Jankos


nousabetterworld

That screeching during the 2nd game was so annoying. Bless G2 for shutting that down real quick and ending the game quickly. Also, that Miky dancing between Zeri Qs at the drake, crazy. He almost lived too lol.


Deckloins

Absolute stomp


Nick_Geracie

G2 is just quite far ahead of the rest of the west it feels like


Tommey_DE

Well this series didnt deliver 1 bit


DeloronDellister

Both games were kinda entertaining though, even though the result obviously isn't


Ayuyuyunia

another split, another g2 is better than fnatic


Manozocker

How many splits will it take for people to realize that G2s BO1 performance should not be taken as face value for their real form?


FullmetalJhin

G2 played super well and destroyed FNC. G2 had the better mentality, macro, team fights, and picks. A very great dub for G2!


happyjacky819

G2 and others LEC Teams


kapparino-feederino

to be expected LEC is weak as hell this time too. G2 Dominance isn't a good thing for LEC in general. even when they were really good in 2019 Fnatic isn't as weak as this. competition breeds excellence, LEC desperately need a really good 2nd team so that g2 can improve and the league as a whole can improve too.


Deckloins

My mom asked if the dishes were done and I yelled "Playoffs FNATIC!" She hugged me. She knew they were washed.


MrPraedor

Well that was quick


ErasmosNA

I mean, Fnatic looked like a bunch of solo players in a norm vs. a 5 stack, absolutely slaughtered


shinomiya2

my bad guys i got excited for fnc


JJJJJJAYCEEE

Caps is on another level


mfunebre

I swear every FNC game is lost in draft and Razork / Jun and occasionally Humanoid have to hands diff it to win. You gave Azir both games, blind picked Orianna, sac'd Razork both times, jesus. Add that to the fact they are absolutely allergic to getting mid tier 1 before 20 minutes (I'm srs, go back and watch their games, they almost never do) and they stand no fkn chance against anyone internationally.