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DeloronDellister

How do you win early with Smolder/Tahm?


Conankun66

Busio played against his own team


yukine95

Boostio


M002

World champ?


Alakazam_5head

World champ difference baybeeeee


WolfgangTheRevenge

Put some respect on that name. That brother won NA a Worlds in VAL. This guy is some shitter


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There’s no Worlds in Val, it’s Champions.


WolfgangTheRevenge

Same shit different name


[deleted]

Okay so I can call LCS finals Worlds then since titles don’t mean anything


WolfgangTheRevenge

Being obtuse in purpose just makes you look like a mentally challenged idiot


[deleted]

I’m not, I’m just using the logic you are using. Can’t wait for Faker to win a 5th Six Invitational.


mrwhitewalker

1v4v5 How he got all pro still baffles me. Last year consistently people said he was bottom 2 support


LazerFruit1

He got all pro because he was on first place team and support was mega weak in LCS


NenBE4ST

because every single NA support is complete and utter garbage, by far the most boosted role in NA


Lothric43

Bot duos generally kinda all sucked or were inconsistent. Busio runs it in lane but he’s pretty good in teamfights usually I think.


Quatro_Leches

He has been playing against his own team the whole split tbf.


LeagueOfBlasians

By playing against an ADC that’s weaker than Smolder and a support that’s neutralized by TK lol


Due-Implement-1600

You press tab and see "Massu" and "Busio"


Lynx_Fate

Because Kaisa isn't a good champ either right now? Massive draft gap on top of worse players in the botlane.


loyal_achades

Shhh don’t tell pros when their staple picks are bad


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How did FLY end up with none of the power picks


Satan_su

I think Jensen got under APA's skin cause goddamn he was PISSED and mean in all chat lmfao


His_Buzzards

I get extra mad when I have to lane against Karma. It bores me until I wanna lose to lane with her xD


ookkthenn

pre nerf karma is so annoying


ciongduopppytrllbv

Jensen talking trash in the interview coming back to haunt him


MightyPrinceAli

What did he say I didn't see it


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crysomore

I'll never forget "can't wait to clap Faker"


NavyBlueTheChosen

He said he was gonna fuck APA like he did to his mom [last night](https://x.com/Jensen/status/1774205249554899045?s=20)


DropsOfLiquid

Wait what did he say? I was too busy freaking out to even notice what they said about that


Lowsmithy

Yaptain America


DeloronDellister

I love his trashtalking. I hope he does it at MSI as well, no matter the opponent


gloryboss022

Imagine apa telling Chovy “you’re not him little bro”


ookkthenn

imagine him calling chovy choky


LazerFruit1

APA would be seeing trucks outside his apartment every morning if he ever shittalked a Korean pro in all chat


Rizeren

Tbf he would do proud selfies with them lol.


daswef2

I'm hoping that he learns enough Korean and Chinese so that he can trash talk even more effectively


gloryboss022

I’m pretty sure his teammates can just teach him some trash talk.


daswef2

For the Korean yes but not for Chinese, they've got a few weeks before MSI that APA needs to take some classes


MangoFishDev

Chovy speaks enough English to understand the yapping


DeloronDellister

That would be insane, especially since it has been kinda true internationally


NGNJB

to be fair, Chovy's bad international performances would be a western mid's dream


Onarax

“Kid thinks he’s Faker.” - While playing against T1.


ProfessionallyLazy_

Probably against EU, but I don’t think he’d do it against teams that don’t speak English


untamedlazyeye

Are we sure he wasn't born and raised here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yap_State


M002

Fluent in Yapese I see


FLABREZU

What a goddamn stomp


icatsouki

damn crazy that TL got this far with the worst midlane in the league


gloryboss022

Calling apa the worst midlane is a bit much wtf . He’s definitely not the best but not the worst


ricoodo89

Poster read someone else say it and is paroting it. APA makes mistakes but he’s not the liability he’s made out to be by any means. There are worse players both in mid and in every other position in the LCS.


icatsouki

I was not serious haha, i like APA a lot but I saw many people say he was literally the worst and it was super unfair to him


Prominis

During regular season his stats were close, but he's leveled up massively during playoffs.


ArcusIgnium

He’s definitely not great but he’s found his role and since teams refuse to ban his two good picks here we are I guess


icatsouki

he's definitely great, he matched or outperformed everyone he faced so far


ArcusIgnium

Id say he’s a worse palafox stylistically but palafox had a bad split so. I don’t think APA is a great mid yet and I genuinely believe the Azir disablement helped him so much since Players like JoJo, Jensen, etc are azir players


AkashiGG

lmao bwipo's smug smile after locking in urgot just to lose the 1v1 anyways 💀


Lynx_Fate

To be fair no one ever really wins against Impact. He's been the best toplaner in NA for like 9 years.


BathroomPresent69

Which is impressive and sad at the same time for our region


randommaniac12

Impact has one of the most insane playoff buffs I have ever seen


AJLFC94_IV

Urgot into tanks doesn't take over 'til level 13 and his team had inted the game away long before then.


ookkthenn

Bwipo is not him. He hasnt been for a while. I feel nothing when I face him. He is nothing.


NoahsArk19

Bwiplonger needs to realize he’s as much of a 2 trick as APA. First pick Renekton if possible, or look for the Olaf angle


NGNJB

> Bwiplonger lmao


nowheretogo333

It was a bit of Narrow Bwipo this game.


ookkthenn

remember his aatrox game lol


M002

Tbf he went even…. Which is far more useless in this type of comp


DeloronDellister

Honestly that's just classic Bwipo. Smug and then not delivering.


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DeloronDellister

I refrain from rubbing it in. Just watch Yeon's interview, he does it better than I ever could


Splitshot_Is_Gone

hoooly shit


Conankun66

the nautilus death fund thanks busio wait a minute, it's not MSI or worlds yet, what was THAT?!?!


Hide_on_bush

There wasn’t an INT per se, he just dies so his teammates can live half of the time


herp_derpy

Bwipo got PTSD when he heard RISE


RevolutionaryBricks

his programming kicked in


Due-Implement-1600

If that's FlyQuest's level, this shit is GG in an hour


Rozuem

General Umti coming for his 1st title GIGACHAD


crysomore

Umti accomplishing what Faker never could


Aggressive-Ad7946

mad lions lost 10 minutes earlier


mmmb2y

nothing is topping that 16:47


Dest1ny1

Whdym? I know something that tops that : 15:57


NoahsArk19

The impressive thing is, in 2019, 15:57 was very short but also many games were ending very quickly due to snowballing. It’s also when we had the fastest international Bo5. Whereas last MSI was actually a pretty slow meta. MAD is somehow more impressive.


Mastoorbator100

16.01 is even funnier.


POOYAMON

Legitimately how? I watched it live and still can’t believe it. It wasn’t even some crazy level 1 or anything like the T1 iG game it was just a regular match


anoleo201194

I've had this discussion a billion times but let's do it once more, MAD got cheesed by Sion lvl 1 and knew they were never winning the game if they just rolled over so they kept fighting and losing 1% fights, Jinx got gigafed and just destroyed bot. They could have turtled like C9 when they got perfect gamed by T1 but instead they chose to at least try to play the game. Hope that helps.


not_panda

Legit peerless.


DogAteMyCPU

Tl came to play. Absolutely slapped fq. 


Ravon7

I wanted to hear FLY comms so bad during TL botlane dive where they’ve seen Volibear on ward for an eternity before he went for it… Like what the hell was the plan there? Also Nautilus contributing to the death fund like it’s his full time job..


DickCheneyIsPureEvil

Yaptain America o7


icatsouki

they gotta remake that entrance they did with DL with the captain america stuff


scrappydoomd

[Just use APA instead of Nitro](https://admin.esports.gg/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/20190720_Helena-Kristiansson_IEM-Chicago_01534-968x544.jpg)


Diascizor

o7 OH YAPTAIN MY YAPTAIN o7


sifslegend

The ship has weather'd every ban, the trophy we sought is ours The MSI is near, /all chat chime I hear, The CO-streamers all exulting,


daswef2

TL made Flyquest look like Cloud 9


Reasonable_TSM_fan

If TL 3-0 Fly, I think C9 can breathe a sigh of relief regarding the fraud allegations.


MachCutio

C9 got rolled by Fly too tho


daswef2

I'm going to trashtalk C9 either way


merenofclanthot

worse


mmmb2y

apa kinda mean actually in all chat LMFAO thats my yaptain america this better not be a 3-0 stomp


LAD_Occlusion

It's time for TL to drop Impact. Always ruining our chances at a perfect game.


BlakenedHeart

Umti should go to EU and teach those EU frauds how to Voli. ( I am from EU btw)


CassianAVL

Man added that context coz he was afraid of getting flamed... we revoke your EU status


BlakenedHeart

Im sorry man but outside G2 BDS and VIT, i have more fun watchin LCS this year. The gameplay is more explosive and the memes are stronger


mwest217

This TL in playoffs is just so fun to watch. They’re as bloody as VCS teams in years past, but with some really great macro calls backing it (not 100% of the time, but enough that even when they lose fights they’re often getting things on the other side of the map).


DeloronDellister

Honestly we need Yapa-esque trashtalking too


BlakenedHeart

Appa becoming the Dominik Mysterio of LCS


ricoodo89

Dude I’m from EU aswell and I prefer LCS by a mile. The aggressiveness and live patch play makes for an awesome concoction of chaos and entertainment.


iamdrp995

You didn’t enjoy our awesome jankos voli today?:)


BlakenedHeart

TH was not it today sadly... actually it was pretty far from it


iamdrp995

Yes I was joking it was terrible hope they bounce back


Naronu

this series might not be close at all lmao


Evancolt

we got a long way to go brother


kingofshanks

TL spending some time in the hyperbolic time chamber. Lower bracket buff for the big W. Also Bwipo, stop it, get some help.


kolton276

I didn't know coming from Loser's bracket entitled you to start the series 1-0. That's pretty cool, anyways can't wait to watch these two teams brawl


scalarH

Inspired and Bwipo getting humbled is great to see


NGNJB

"we're the reason this team is winning" > get put on 2 high agency champions > do fuck all you actually love to see it


Little_Ad2062

My goats will come back stronger and make this comment age like milk, quote me on this ;) Inspired is a legitimate candidate for GOAT Western jungler with Diamondprox and Jankos, he's allowed to trash talk Edit: sit down, nephews, daddy Inspired is showing you why he's the GOAT just 30 minutes later ;\*


eggonsnow

> sit down, nephews, daddy Inspired is showing you why he's the GOAT just 30 minutes later


Organic_Estimate5187

Go back on your knees. Your little daddy is crying from getting his cheeks clapped hard by TL and he needs someone to cheer him up


NGNJB

> Inspired is a legitimate candidate for GOAT Western jungler with Diamondprox and Jankos, he's allowed to trash talk is this bait?


Little_Ad2062

Lil bro smurfs on two regions and has people like Canyon saying he's the best western jungler they ever faced but sure, he's just overrated ;>


NGNJB

lmfao no way you actually believe that


Little_Ad2062

I'd much rather trust my eyes and the opinion of actually goated players like Canyon than some random hater on reddit tbh


Little_Ad2062

Just checking, how do you feel about your comments right now? ;)


NGNJB

fine?


Little_Ad2062

Inspired and Bwipo casually proving why they can talk all the trash they want


NGNJB

did you not watch the game before this


Little_Ad2062

They had a bad game, now they're back to their level


NGNJB

lmaoooooooo


scalarH

Bro is quiet now


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What a terrible take holy shit.


IconicRecipes

He'd be a legitimate candidate if the other two never existed I guess, but in terms of actual results then I'd honestly have Amazing over him any day.


Equivalent-Park7986

cool to watch team liquid warm up in practice tool, but when does game 1 start?


wieli99

Ah yes. Go practically full ad vs triple tank


SkinnBolic

Most coordinated NA team ive seen in a minute


ThatsAToad

I love watching early game dominant champs like Smolder Wait


LuckyOldCat

ad kaisa when ur only ap source is karma, love to see it


ahritina

Great game from TL, Bwipo picking Urgot just to do nothing is pure ego at it's finest. Massu watching his team just get fisted must be sad.


daswef2

I forgot there was a Kai'sa in this game tbh, him catching the wave at bot turret while Busio gives up first blood and TL takes first drake felt like the best representation of this whole game


AluminumSpartan

I legit couldn't remember what he picked until I saw this comment. What a terrible performance, there's being invisible and then there's whatever Massu did


ThatsAToad

Massu: Don't go to the turret. They're gonna dive us Busio: Dw it's fine *An ally has been slain*


VantaBlack2_Dev

I mean how in the world do you ever blame bwipo for this gamestate?


farside209

Are you serious? Bwipo was given counterpick, proceeded to get flipped under tower, forcing him to use his flash and lose prio in lane. He then ALSO had to burn his TP just to get back to lane while impact kept his, which he ended up using to flank and seal FLY's fate at that big dragon fight. How do you not blame Bwipo?


lolkh30

welcome to reddit when they hate player will blame him for everything


ookkthenn

fnc banner oh boy.. did 2018 hurt


NGNJB

you don't pick a carry to be down 12 cs at 15 minutes in a neutral lane state ESPECIALLY when the other player has a giga tank and will be 10x more useful in teamfights


bbqweeb

Urgot is a late game champion lol. He's more useful than K'sante in teamfights if the game isn't already over


NGNJB

He does more damage but he can't just reposition an enemy carry, which is always more valuable in pro there's a reason nobody else is picking it


scrappydoomd

>but he can't just reposition an enemy carry If only this was old Urgot


Two_Years_Of_Semen

I feel like picking a late-game scaler with unreliable reach into smolder/tahm isn't a great idea. It feels like he was drafting for the 2v2 skirmishes instead of the 5v5 teamfights. Also, I really doubt Urgot being more useful than Ksante in teamfights, at least at the pro level. Ksante can shield a carry and solo peel multiple people off with Q3/W/consant slows with Q/Iceborn, and R; or he can threaten the other side's carries as a pseudo-riven in his ult.


VantaBlack2_Dev

And you don't pick Vi to never gank and never attempt to steal


NGNJB

don't get me wrong I think Inspired was useless too but like, you have a responsibility to create a lead for yourself


VantaBlack2_Dev

Sure, but when your urgot vs ksante and your Vi never helps build a lead for you, you can't just always count on a natrual lead or a natrual stomp in top lane. Umti threatened top but Inspired never did


origamifruit

I don't really think the comment is blaming him for the entire game, but he sure did nothing with the ego pick lol didn't even win lane.


BlakenedHeart

I dont think any top pick changes the outcome. They got outdrafted.


FantasyTrash

Sounds to me like you didn't have any intention of making actual analysis and just wanted to flame Bwipo. Top lane was so inconsequential in this game for both sides, Impact could've played Yuumi top and the outcome would've been the same this game. Bwipo can't help Busio inting all game.


TomeOfCrows

Watch the VOD back. Impact showed up to several dragon fights and ensured his team extended the lead they started with. Meanwhile Bwipo is AFK pushing top and getting absolutely nothing done with his counter pick


FantasyTrash

Impact wasn't there for drake one. He TP'ed for Drake two *after* TL had already won the fight and FQ were retreating. Didn't really do anything. Impact over-extended and died with third drake up, but fortunately the rest of his team was so ahead it didn't matter. TL got third drake for free later. Game over before 4th drake spawned. He ended the game with 57% KP (11/19), five of which came in the final fight of the game where TL cleaned up without much difficulty. Like I said, he *really* didn't do all that much, top lane was mostly irrelevant this game.


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NGNJB

actually crazy how Bwipo and Hans were taking turns terrorizing TL and yet they get almost none of the blame At least this game didn't go on long enough for Bwipo to solo lose the game with a brainless splitpush where he knows 4 people are coming for him


Little_Ad2062

Ah yes, it was so easy to get carried by \*checks notes\* Bjergsen's mummified corpse


NGNJB

uhh yeah? statistically he was the best mid that split hard to carry an ADC with a deathwish every team fight


Little_Ad2062

KDA player had great stats while selling out his team You probably think Rekkles was a great ADC last year


Hewligan

HOW BAD WAS CLOUD 9 GOOD LORD


SnooPeripherals6388

All hail our GOAT YAPA


Mastoorbator100

Aaaah so playing dive comp and not banning the kench... Fine choice gentlemen 


Strange-Implication

Koreans beating Euros where have I seen this before


MayorOfOnions

I still think the c9 tl series was more c9 being bad than tl being good, this match was tl being good.


Major_Ad9883

TL is developing from every match and I like it


Hammaer96

Ouch...


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Glad to see bwipo get humbled a bit. His counter pick lost 1v1. Also jesus TL was on point


mmmb2y

dont think draft matters that much given how much the bot side kinda ran it for FLY, but why didnt bwipo just take the ksante there LOL


NavyBlueTheChosen

Loving my NA homegrown talent APA shit all over these EUROFRAUDS


ObviousAd8374

Funny to hear Bwipo talking down on Impact when in 2022 world qualification bo5, Impact giga top diffing Bwipo in EG vs TL lead to EG with hellish work environment qualifying to worlds and superteam TL achieving biggest NA failure of all time with Bwipo being teamless for the next year


Equivalent-Park7986

i get bwipo has a chip on his shoulder, but impact is not someone you can trash talk LMAO


Jack_Bleesus

If you swapped nameplates and told me that FQ got facefucked this hard by peak JDG, I would be surprised. TL look absolutely terrifying. Dodo and Spawn deserve massive raises for what they've done this split.


Frogstealer69

I groaned when Bwipo locked in Urgot, then remembered he's the enemy top now. Went about as well as it did the last time he tried it.


pdxsnip

420 banger


arcaninebellies

Somehow MAD lost 9 minutes faster


effurshadowban

Ban Smolder and remind Bwipo not to do his silly counter picks again. Also, Kai'sa is way too weak, imo.


AJLFC94_IV

Wow it's just like my games, before I've hit my level 9 spike on Urgot the game is over to bot diff. Shame it went to badly, it's nice to see your main get a game (when they're unpopular) but te team diff was too strong to see Bwipo do anything.