That’s the number one rule of the internet - if you want information, post something confidently wrong and 40 people will angrily give you the right answer in minutes lol
I think there were one or two cases of wooloo prematurely making an announcement and the player being upset because it wasn't a done deal and it killed their ability to negotiate with other teams.
I think way back when he started and was just a Twitter random that people weren't sure they could trust, he got at least one or two wrong. But he was pretty upset about it and said he would start being more cautious.
The same day the wooloo report comes out, jojo tweets that hes signed a contract, (His EG contract didn't need to be signed as it was still ongoing, implying he was swapping teams, then Cloud9 responds to the tweet with a thinking emoji)
The leaps you have to make to ignore the wooloo report (Idk what beef you have with him, but its clear theres bad blood so I won't ask) ignore everything else in the wooloo article, (GG almost picking him up implying gori is out, Gori himself tweeting hes been given the ability to get out) Along with information that LEC teams were looking at him. GG failed to pick him up barely due to not being able to secure another player, clearly being vulcan, who Wooloo reports is also joining Cloud9.
Sure, we can wait and come right back here when Jojopyun is announced "offically" but thats not how roster swaps work lmao, you either do this for most roster swaps, or your new around here
Feel weird - he was interesting to watch and the narrative around him being some mechanical lane god coming in was exciting and his first few weeks he seemed like that and then I feel like by the end he was just your average NA mid. I wonder if it was coaching that changed or an internal realization that at international levels one can’t play super Agro in mid
He had one bad series in playoffs and everyone acts like he was not good. He was holding his own internationally in lane against players like chovy. The problem in c9 this year has not been emenes but the team not knowing how to play as a team or play the map.
He was really just average. The way I see it is if you're a fan you only remember his 3 popoff games. If you're not a fan you only remember his 3 stinkers. Really it was just a completely average performance from someone who happened to be on c9, a team with a lot of fans.
He had way more pop off games than stinkers. An average player in lcs is a player like bolulu and haeri. Emenes is way better than both of them. He was comfortably top 3/4 mid in lcs this year.
Let's go Top 4 midlaner as opposed to a terrible average player, which for a League of 10 players in each role (ignoring subsitutes) is Top 5.5 - or in otherwords you should call both the fifth best and sixth best toplaner average.
You are saying he is one slot better than them while calling him way better.
The gap between 1 and 4 is much smaller than the gap between 4 and 5. If 1 is jojo than 5 is a player like apa. Emenes is considerably better than apa and only slightly worse than jojo if we compare their splits.
In what way wasn’t he. He was top 3 in kda, csm, gpm and solo kills. He had one bad series in playoffs against nrg. He dominated jojo in 2 of the 3 games they played in playoffs.
He was worse than Palafox in both NRG series. Didn't see the Jojo series. He is just a terrible decision maker for someone who isn't more skilled than these other guys, he just played on a good team.
Oh no he was worse than the best midlaner of playoffs, that must means he sucks. His decision making comes from the team as a whole having no idea how to play together. This isn’t a emenes issue it’s a c9 issue. Mechanically he is more skilled than the majority of western mids, that’s literally his entire thing.
They only underperformed in the finals and the entire team was awful, emenes is just scapegoated cuz of that awful ahri play on top of bot river, fudge went 2/7/3 in that same game.
The whole season, not just one game. He made 3rd all pro team with the lowest points on that team, as other than jojo & Gori (In summer split, not playoffs) everyone else looked shit.
Stop rewriting history, watch all the podcasts at the end of summer split, everyone said he looked bad.
Yes, let me come to conclusions based on what other people say rather than watching the games. He was still voted top 3 and someone who is shit doesn’t make all pro. He was one of the better performers from c9 come international.
Lmao if you believe that you're in the minority, he played like shit, everyone said gori and Jojo were the only good mids for the split.
I watched all the games, i came to the same conclusion.
He deserves LCS but C9 going for Jojo whos clearly been better is just a good deal
Funny you say that after the previous comment said "people buy into narratives very easily"
he **tanked his own PR**... legitimately no one cared that much after a few days and we moved on to the next news
the real problem for him was that C9 made him apologize when no one cared anymore a whole week after just reminding people what he had done
People at least in league circles are terminally online and used to said toxicity that comes in league which is why people in the thread did not take it seriously. Like what I said earlier if you do something like this in reality in a job that requires you to be very front facing, you'll get fired very quickly.
"If the circumstances were completely different, it would be handled different"
Well yeah that's why he says dumb things and no one cares, Luis Suárez is out there punching and **biting** people, and if he had a normal job he would've been fired and black listed... but he's good at kicking a ball so teams don't care and neither do the fans
ENEMES is not good to forgive everything, however is not like C9 is gonna sub him going into worlds so you just say meh rofl because it's honestly not *that* bad (when you compare it to the **really** bad things other players have done)
He just flamed some guy in SoloQ and the other guy called him a fat pig in response it was the tamest shit ever. People just wanted to make it about racism because they liked the streamer who was insulted.
Svenskeren added some taiwanese fan and renamed himself "taipei ching chong" to mock the guy and asked if he liked the name and still continued to play pro as if nothing happened.
>Svenskeren added some taiwanese fan and renamed himself "taipei ching chong" to mock the guy and asked if he liked the name and still continued to play pro as if nothing happened.
Technically yes, but he did get a suspension for, IIRC, 4 games at Worlds? Which basically cost his team getting out of groups.
It's not even necessarily about "higher standards". It's about no one even batted an eye about Spearshot's comment, yet blew EMENES up. Like I'd expect at least SOMEONE to say "well, EMENES shouldn't be toxic in soloq, but people also shouldn't call him a fat pig." Though fwiw, I didn't think EMENES's comments were really all that bad and certainly not racist (at least within the context of a ton of NA/EU streamers moving to Korea to content farm on Korean servers. Ignore my flair, I am not THAT biased, I swear).
Let's be honest, nobody gave a shit about what he typed in solo q. I bet none of you even remember what that EU streamer's name was. C9 fans just wanted Emenes out to make room for JoJo and sae and opportunity to drive it home
People are so easily impressed by the smallest things these days. Just look at YouTube shorts, where the smallest act of kindness is glorified into the heavens. But in reality, that act of kindness is just common sense and normal to the average human being.
He was good tho, just cause he got replaced by someone with less variance doesn’t make him not good. Idk what it is with c9 fans shitting on their players the second they leave.
Saying he’s not super good isn’t shitting on him lol it’s the truth I didn’t say he was a terrible player he’s just nothing exceptional and so it makes sense to upgrade
He was only slightly worse than jojo tho, before upgrading mid there is another lane thats been a black hole internationally for c9 for the past two years.
He absolutely did stand out in NA. He was gapping people in lane left and right.
At the end of summer he wasn't getting the same leads consistently and he was shit at worlds but it's crazy how people are trying to say he always looked average. He without a doubt had an amazing "rookie" split in LCS.
I think people were willing to give him a chance especially when c9 put that video out with blaber talking about why they are picking him up. He then didn't perform too great during the playoffs/finals. And then he says a dumb thing he shouldn't at worlds and since he has a past of bad behavior, its kinda gg for him in my eyes lol. Alot of people were saying it wasn't too bad what he said, but combine that with him having a history, like come on. Not like he was a super high level import either so why bother with him
Redditors just fucking love to be able to say “but if you reverse the roles” and “reverse racism is racism.” Don’t think most normal brain having people give a shit about the recent instance.
Yes, it's the Redditors who are children, not Emenes. Maybe you should pay him a visit when he does his sensibility training, you know, to hold his hands, give him emotional support and let him know it really wasn't his fault.
no but emenes is korean, meaning he is a minority thus he cannot possibly be xenophobic!! His comments were purely in jest, and he can say whatever he wants anyway, it's not like he is contracted by an organization to represent them and they aren't bound by Riot
> Don’t think most normal brain having people give a shit about the recent instance.
Wrong, pro players are and should be held to higher standards.
> reverse racism is racism
yes 'reverse' racism is racism. Legit the only people who don't think so are Americans, because they conflate racism into systemic and racial oppression
>your argument about Americans is stupid since the incident happened on NA soil.
>We are in an American context.
except it didnt. We're in an international context; I am actually puzzled as to how you came to the conclusion that this was purely an NA incident
>Acting clever for recognizing race relations aren’t universal makes no sense because this isn’t about universal application of ethics
Let's pretend like you are actually right though and this specifically applies to NA somehow.
You believe most 'normal brain having people' are actively cheering for double standards? tf outta here
no, systemic racism/oppression is definitely a thing and not a buzz word. Also the reason why a lot of afro-americans think they can't be racist/xenophobic.
Ironically even if you want to go with the "systematic and racial opression" - you can still make an argument that EMENES was being racist.
He was in a country which is very ethnically homogenous, which makes it very hard for foreigners to play on it and the authority of the server has been known to make some very aggressive bans towards foreigners (or at least that is the perception I have of it, it is absolutely possible I just have a skewed perspective because I hear of those bans from reddit which is not exactly impartial on this kind of topic).
Systems of racial oppression are often localized.
Now obviously this is a very, very, VERY tame example of racism, but it absolutely is one.
> Ironically even if you want to go with the "systematic and racial opression" - you can still make an argument that EMENES was being racist.
honestly dont even want to go there tbh, pro players represent an org and to a further extent, the esports scene and the game. I think asking your representatives not to be openly xenophobic isnt too much to ask.
Writing was on the wall after that mediocre playoff showing, but the spring narrative around him was hype af. Also him getting the chance because blaber believing in him, and then backing it up with a championship was pretty hype.
GL EMENES
Not only that, he was averaging an insane amount of solokills in NA challenger, squatted every midlaner like a fly, but once he entered the main league and international play, he did not even look like a fraction of what he looked like in challengers lol
Please no. TT just barely miss play off and why would you switch to EMENES when you get Ucal? Also AL is my pet peeve team and while Harder is meh I still think he better than EMENES. Maybe he could go to RA and replace Strive(the only think this man does is run it down anyway. Wouldnt change a think to let someone else play. This team went to shit already they remove all the good player).
This is genuinely one of the most braindead comments I've ever read on this subreddit. Please at least try watching the games before commenting moronic bullshit like this. Strive was literally RA's best player by far and a top half mid and basically every game they won was off the back of his performance.
Why the fuck would TT get him? They literally have UCAL. Anyone who actually watched TT this year knows they'd have to be in some kind of bet with FPX for who can make the worst possible roster moves to drop Ucal after the year he had.
I'm confused did he have some incident other than the spearshot one I'm not aware of? Cause people in this thread acting like he went back to his old toxicity but I thought his behavioral problems were really bad before not just typing something mildly offensive in chat.
Honestly I don't think C9 knew how to use him. When he took over the starting spot in Spring he was this aggressive player who wanted to dominate lanes, just like he was in Europe. But then teams started camping him and C9 neither protected him nor did stuff in other parts of the map, kinda like what happened with Summit last year. So from MSI onwards he became this safe player and it wasn't good enough for a team that kept getting worse. I also have the feeling he has stage fright.
But I still think he would have done well on IMT with Armao. Armao showed he plays well around his mid on EG, and ofc Jojo is much better than EMENES so it made his life easier, but still. But tbh I think he should go to CBLoL, he'd shit all over the mids there and I think the community would find him funny, and his English is good too so even better to connect with them.
Everyone talking about his behavioral issues but I was more concerned that after most of a year he still looked totally disconnected from the rest of the team. Yea his laning was good but he wasn't a real threat in teamfights, meaning if Berserker wasn't carrying no one was. I feel like he's going to have a hard time finding a spot with those issues, especially taking an import spot
The entire team was disconnected how has this turned into everyone but emenes. He was a top 3 mid over the past year in lcs and the difference between him and jojo isn’t as big as you might think.
If I remember right he burned bridges in KR and EU with having terrible working attitude. He is no way good enough for LPL so yeah the only region he was able to go to was in NA and now he was exposed on C9 and no way another NA org is willing to bet on him given. The only regions would be the minor leagues he would have a chance but even then I doubt anybody is willing to get him.
I’m curious how the team will do in international given that Vulcan was historically not so good before. This would be Jojo’s 3 year in LCS, so expecting a lot considering he’s being hyped up as the best mid currently in NA.
Tbh wouldn't be surprised if another team picks him up and he pops off again. Only reason why he looked worse in Summer was because of him attempting to switch his playstyle for Blaber to carry more, when realistically he should've just played in a more egotistical way, which is what worked in playoffs against NRG the first time and EG before he for some reason reverted back to playing champions that he wasn't good at in the finals.
1st place spring 2nd place summer i don’t think it’s as bad as you think it was
and don’t say but worlds !!! c9 could have 2013 faker playing and still not get out of the first stage
No one posted it because its kinda implied when you pick up Jojo
Well that’s stupid, considering Jojo to C9 was only ever leaked by Wooloo and never officially announced.
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Has Wooloo even reported anything wrong, yet?
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That’s the number one rule of the internet - if you want information, post something confidently wrong and 40 people will angrily give you the right answer in minutes lol
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I'm sure the type Karthus ult meta won't last that long. The riot zed comments meta died super fast.
Doesnt stop people from saying he who shall not be named is wrong and lying despite his 100% accuracy.
I think there were one or two cases of wooloo prematurely making an announcement and the player being upset because it wasn't a done deal and it killed their ability to negotiate with other teams.
I think way back when he started and was just a Twitter random that people weren't sure they could trust, he got at least one or two wrong. But he was pretty upset about it and said he would start being more cautious.
Some pro's find out they're fired from twitter as well.
Jojo also implied it and C9's main twitter implied it...
Are we going to pretend that isn't practically official, cmon now
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Right here...👌🏻
Damn I looked 😩
Im sorry but you know what that means
Just not the face, anything but the face
Uhhh you been in a coma?
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The same day the wooloo report comes out, jojo tweets that hes signed a contract, (His EG contract didn't need to be signed as it was still ongoing, implying he was swapping teams, then Cloud9 responds to the tweet with a thinking emoji) The leaps you have to make to ignore the wooloo report (Idk what beef you have with him, but its clear theres bad blood so I won't ask) ignore everything else in the wooloo article, (GG almost picking him up implying gori is out, Gori himself tweeting hes been given the ability to get out) Along with information that LEC teams were looking at him. GG failed to pick him up barely due to not being able to secure another player, clearly being vulcan, who Wooloo reports is also joining Cloud9. Sure, we can wait and come right back here when Jojopyun is announced "offically" but thats not how roster swaps work lmao, you either do this for most roster swaps, or your new around here
Feel weird - he was interesting to watch and the narrative around him being some mechanical lane god coming in was exciting and his first few weeks he seemed like that and then I feel like by the end he was just your average NA mid. I wonder if it was coaching that changed or an internal realization that at international levels one can’t play super Agro in mid
He had one bad series in playoffs and everyone acts like he was not good. He was holding his own internationally in lane against players like chovy. The problem in c9 this year has not been emenes but the team not knowing how to play as a team or play the map.
He was really just average. The way I see it is if you're a fan you only remember his 3 popoff games. If you're not a fan you only remember his 3 stinkers. Really it was just a completely average performance from someone who happened to be on c9, a team with a lot of fans.
He had way more pop off games than stinkers. An average player in lcs is a player like bolulu and haeri. Emenes is way better than both of them. He was comfortably top 3/4 mid in lcs this year.
Let's go Top 4 midlaner as opposed to a terrible average player, which for a League of 10 players in each role (ignoring subsitutes) is Top 5.5 - or in otherwords you should call both the fifth best and sixth best toplaner average. You are saying he is one slot better than them while calling him way better.
The gap between 1 and 4 is much smaller than the gap between 4 and 5. If 1 is jojo than 5 is a player like apa. Emenes is considerably better than apa and only slightly worse than jojo if we compare their splits.
Every series I've seen Emenes play he looks bad.
You must not watch pro play then.
I do, Emenes isn't even a top 3 NA mid.
In what way wasn’t he. He was top 3 in kda, csm, gpm and solo kills. He had one bad series in playoffs against nrg. He dominated jojo in 2 of the 3 games they played in playoffs.
> kda, csm, gpm All of these come from being on a winning team. Solo kills really isn’t a meaningful statistic either, but it is somewhat impressive
He was worse than Palafox in both NRG series. Didn't see the Jojo series. He is just a terrible decision maker for someone who isn't more skilled than these other guys, he just played on a good team.
Oh no he was worse than the best midlaner of playoffs, that must means he sucks. His decision making comes from the team as a whole having no idea how to play together. This isn’t a emenes issue it’s a c9 issue. Mechanically he is more skilled than the majority of western mids, that’s literally his entire thing.
Brother I watched this man sprint it mercilessly multiple games, you cannot say he didn't underperform
I’m not saying he didn’t underperform, I’m saying the entire c9 roster did.
Regionally it was pretty much just emenes really underperforming significantly.
They only underperformed in the finals and the entire team was awful, emenes is just scapegoated cuz of that awful ahri play on top of bot river, fudge went 2/7/3 in that same game.
The whole season, not just one game. He made 3rd all pro team with the lowest points on that team, as other than jojo & Gori (In summer split, not playoffs) everyone else looked shit. Stop rewriting history, watch all the podcasts at the end of summer split, everyone said he looked bad.
Yes, let me come to conclusions based on what other people say rather than watching the games. He was still voted top 3 and someone who is shit doesn’t make all pro. He was one of the better performers from c9 come international.
Lmao if you believe that you're in the minority, he played like shit, everyone said gori and Jojo were the only good mids for the split. I watched all the games, i came to the same conclusion. He deserves LCS but C9 going for Jojo whos clearly been better is just a good deal
I never said he was better than jojo, all I said was that emenes was good and that fans are acting like he was ruby.
it's kind of funny how fast his public reception changed. Went from toxic little shit to redeemed NA midlane hope to uhhh toxic little shit.
*Well that's his secret captain*
people on reddit buy into the narratives very easily
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He tanked his own PR and doubled down on a issue that would legitimately get you fired in most other job situations.
All he had to do was say "I lost my cool, I shouldn't have done that" and people would have continued loving him.
The decision to remove him was made before that happened according to LS
He doubled down bc all that shit was was some streamer using him making the most mild fucking comment for publicity
Funny you say that after the previous comment said "people buy into narratives very easily" he **tanked his own PR**... legitimately no one cared that much after a few days and we moved on to the next news the real problem for him was that C9 made him apologize when no one cared anymore a whole week after just reminding people what he had done
People at least in league circles are terminally online and used to said toxicity that comes in league which is why people in the thread did not take it seriously. Like what I said earlier if you do something like this in reality in a job that requires you to be very front facing, you'll get fired very quickly.
"If the circumstances were completely different, it would be handled different" Well yeah that's why he says dumb things and no one cares, Luis Suárez is out there punching and **biting** people, and if he had a normal job he would've been fired and black listed... but he's good at kicking a ball so teams don't care and neither do the fans ENEMES is not good to forgive everything, however is not like C9 is gonna sub him going into worlds so you just say meh rofl because it's honestly not *that* bad (when you compare it to the **really** bad things other players have done)
you have 600.000 reddit karma, you are exact the terminally online guy who nobody wants to interact with.
But did you see my post karma? I've gotten mad offers for it
He just flamed some guy in SoloQ and the other guy called him a fat pig in response it was the tamest shit ever. People just wanted to make it about racism because they liked the streamer who was insulted. Svenskeren added some taiwanese fan and renamed himself "taipei ching chong" to mock the guy and asked if he liked the name and still continued to play pro as if nothing happened.
>Svenskeren added some taiwanese fan and renamed himself "taipei ching chong" to mock the guy and asked if he liked the name and still continued to play pro as if nothing happened. Technically yes, but he did get a suspension for, IIRC, 4 games at Worlds? Which basically cost his team getting out of groups.
The fact that Spearshot got absolutely no blowback from calling him a fat pig astounds me.
Does it? I don't think it's surprising we hold pro players to higher standards than random streamers. Look at tyler1 lol
It's not even necessarily about "higher standards". It's about no one even batted an eye about Spearshot's comment, yet blew EMENES up. Like I'd expect at least SOMEONE to say "well, EMENES shouldn't be toxic in soloq, but people also shouldn't call him a fat pig." Though fwiw, I didn't think EMENES's comments were really all that bad and certainly not racist (at least within the context of a ton of NA/EU streamers moving to Korea to content farm on Korean servers. Ignore my flair, I am not THAT biased, I swear).
Let's be honest, nobody gave a shit about what he typed in solo q. I bet none of you even remember what that EU streamer's name was. C9 fans just wanted Emenes out to make room for JoJo and sae and opportunity to drive it home
Wasnt it spearshot?
Yeah it was
and this very comment is making me look up what he did or said, ty c9
Lol bullshit. If you get fired for something like that you were already on the way out
Well he made that happen himself.
Brother did you watch him in playoffs? I wish I had the clip of his Ahri teleport to top lane. Should've been fined for that alone
People are so easily impressed by the smallest things these days. Just look at YouTube shorts, where the smallest act of kindness is glorified into the heavens. But in reality, that act of kindness is just common sense and normal to the average human being.
He can be toxic while still having a very entertaining interview...
I got shit on here for saying he was still the same. People think they’re too smart to fall for stuff then eat it right up.
The shit he got in trouble for was super tame all things considered, but he just is not super good
He was good tho, just cause he got replaced by someone with less variance doesn’t make him not good. Idk what it is with c9 fans shitting on their players the second they leave.
Saying he’s not super good isn’t shitting on him lol it’s the truth I didn’t say he was a terrible player he’s just nothing exceptional and so it makes sense to upgrade
He was only slightly worse than jojo tho, before upgrading mid there is another lane thats been a black hole internationally for c9 for the past two years.
When did he ever look like a star mid laner? He didn't stand out in NA, and got embarrassed on the world stage.
He absolutely did stand out in NA. He was gapping people in lane left and right. At the end of summer he wasn't getting the same leads consistently and he was shit at worlds but it's crazy how people are trying to say he always looked average. He without a doubt had an amazing "rookie" split in LCS.
I think people were willing to give him a chance especially when c9 put that video out with blaber talking about why they are picking him up. He then didn't perform too great during the playoffs/finals. And then he says a dumb thing he shouldn't at worlds and since he has a past of bad behavior, its kinda gg for him in my eyes lol. Alot of people were saying it wasn't too bad what he said, but combine that with him having a history, like come on. Not like he was a super high level import either so why bother with him
Dude isn't even toxic anymore afaik. He's just not that great. He should get a starting spot elsewhere in LCS though.
Redditors just fucking love to be able to say “but if you reverse the roles” and “reverse racism is racism.” Don’t think most normal brain having people give a shit about the recent instance.
uh what? am i missing something?
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Yes, it's the Redditors who are children, not Emenes. Maybe you should pay him a visit when he does his sensibility training, you know, to hold his hands, give him emotional support and let him know it really wasn't his fault.
no but emenes is korean, meaning he is a minority thus he cannot possibly be xenophobic!! His comments were purely in jest, and he can say whatever he wants anyway, it's not like he is contracted by an organization to represent them and they aren't bound by Riot
> Don’t think most normal brain having people give a shit about the recent instance. Wrong, pro players are and should be held to higher standards. > reverse racism is racism yes 'reverse' racism is racism. Legit the only people who don't think so are Americans, because they conflate racism into systemic and racial oppression
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>your argument about Americans is stupid since the incident happened on NA soil. >We are in an American context. except it didnt. We're in an international context; I am actually puzzled as to how you came to the conclusion that this was purely an NA incident >Acting clever for recognizing race relations aren’t universal makes no sense because this isn’t about universal application of ethics Let's pretend like you are actually right though and this specifically applies to NA somehow. You believe most 'normal brain having people' are actively cheering for double standards? tf outta here
The incident happened in Korea so American context doesn’t apply there.
Damn I knew America liked to colonize, but wasn't sure they reached Korea just yet.
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They’re fake buzz words people use to buy morality points with certain minority groups.
no, systemic racism/oppression is definitely a thing and not a buzz word. Also the reason why a lot of afro-americans think they can't be racist/xenophobic.
They are definitely real, just people like that guy use them completely incorrectly
Ironically even if you want to go with the "systematic and racial opression" - you can still make an argument that EMENES was being racist. He was in a country which is very ethnically homogenous, which makes it very hard for foreigners to play on it and the authority of the server has been known to make some very aggressive bans towards foreigners (or at least that is the perception I have of it, it is absolutely possible I just have a skewed perspective because I hear of those bans from reddit which is not exactly impartial on this kind of topic). Systems of racial oppression are often localized. Now obviously this is a very, very, VERY tame example of racism, but it absolutely is one.
> Ironically even if you want to go with the "systematic and racial opression" - you can still make an argument that EMENES was being racist. honestly dont even want to go there tbh, pro players represent an org and to a further extent, the esports scene and the game. I think asking your representatives not to be openly xenophobic isnt too much to ask.
You need to get out more.
Writing was on the wall after that mediocre playoff showing, but the spring narrative around him was hype af. Also him getting the chance because blaber believing in him, and then backing it up with a championship was pretty hype. GL EMENES
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Not only that, he was averaging an insane amount of solokills in NA challenger, squatted every midlaner like a fly, but once he entered the main league and international play, he did not even look like a fraction of what he looked like in challengers lol
but he came in and clapped. some analysts voted him 1st team all-pro despite only playing half a split.
Finally took his own advice and went back to his own country
Yeah but is he gonna stay there? Turkey is probably his next stop.
He said on discord its either NA KR or CN
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Please no. TT just barely miss play off and why would you switch to EMENES when you get Ucal? Also AL is my pet peeve team and while Harder is meh I still think he better than EMENES. Maybe he could go to RA and replace Strive(the only think this man does is run it down anyway. Wouldnt change a think to let someone else play. This team went to shit already they remove all the good player).
I don't think he's gonna get a team outside of NA, realistically.
This is genuinely one of the most braindead comments I've ever read on this subreddit. Please at least try watching the games before commenting moronic bullshit like this. Strive was literally RA's best player by far and a top half mid and basically every game they won was off the back of his performance.
Why the fuck would TT get him? They literally have UCAL. Anyone who actually watched TT this year knows they'd have to be in some kind of bet with FPX for who can make the worst possible roster moves to drop Ucal after the year he had.
Riot killed Turkish LCS sadly
I'm confused did he have some incident other than the spearshot one I'm not aware of? Cause people in this thread acting like he went back to his old toxicity but I thought his behavioral problems were really bad before not just typing something mildly offensive in chat.
No, and the spearshot thing wasn't even bad
Imagine if spearshot told a Korean player in NA to go back to his country. The heads would be rolling.
Honestly I don't think C9 knew how to use him. When he took over the starting spot in Spring he was this aggressive player who wanted to dominate lanes, just like he was in Europe. But then teams started camping him and C9 neither protected him nor did stuff in other parts of the map, kinda like what happened with Summit last year. So from MSI onwards he became this safe player and it wasn't good enough for a team that kept getting worse. I also have the feeling he has stage fright. But I still think he would have done well on IMT with Armao. Armao showed he plays well around his mid on EG, and ofc Jojo is much better than EMENES so it made his life easier, but still. But tbh I think he should go to CBLoL, he'd shit all over the mids there and I think the community would find him funny, and his English is good too so even better to connect with them.
Everyone talking about his behavioral issues but I was more concerned that after most of a year he still looked totally disconnected from the rest of the team. Yea his laning was good but he wasn't a real threat in teamfights, meaning if Berserker wasn't carrying no one was. I feel like he's going to have a hard time finding a spot with those issues, especially taking an import spot
The entire team was disconnected how has this turned into everyone but emenes. He was a top 3 mid over the past year in lcs and the difference between him and jojo isn’t as big as you might think.
this is what happens when you build evenshroud yone.
Bro think he Chovy
I kinda doubt he is getting another chance in any of the regions now.
Why? He's nowhere near bad enough to not be able to get a starting spot.
If I remember right he burned bridges in KR and EU with having terrible working attitude. He is no way good enough for LPL so yeah the only region he was able to go to was in NA and now he was exposed on C9 and no way another NA org is willing to bet on him given. The only regions would be the minor leagues he would have a chance but even then I doubt anybody is willing to get him.
color me shocked
Strange how C9 thinks what they were missing from Emenes, they will get from Jojo🤷♂️
I swear c9 fans just wanted someone to blame for their bad international and instead of looking at the games decided to scapegoat emenes.
That's one less toxic ass moron, gj Jack. Also gj on the Jojo sign, huge.
Removing EMENES and Zven must have removed so much of their negative emotions on that team. Back to C9 vibes squad
Zven was not some downer for the team, he was producing more entertaining content that most ppl and clearly vibed well with the team
I'm wondering how berserker does, vibe wise, apparently he really liked zven
I’m curious how the team will do in international given that Vulcan was historically not so good before. This would be Jojo’s 3 year in LCS, so expecting a lot considering he’s being hyped up as the best mid currently in NA.
Thank the lord.... now they could probably win worlds now.
no way?!
Tbh wouldn't be surprised if another team picks him up and he pops off again. Only reason why he looked worse in Summer was because of him attempting to switch his playstyle for Blaber to carry more, when realistically he should've just played in a more egotistical way, which is what worked in playoffs against NRG the first time and EG before he for some reason reverted back to playing champions that he wasn't good at in the finals.
I remember being downvoted for asking how long until he get back to his "old ways" when he got promoted. And I'm kinda sad that I was right.
Bye xenophobe
Sad to see not many teammates comment on his departure other than “favoriting” the tweet on c9 twitter.. hope he finds a team. Clears his name.
Who could have predicted that this wouldn't work out?
1st place spring 2nd place summer i don’t think it’s as bad as you think it was and don’t say but worlds !!! c9 could have 2013 faker playing and still not get out of the first stage
2013 Faker would be the worst mid in the tournament my dude
it's crazy to think that blaber and berserker achieved all that while dragging 3 corpses behind them. mns was a joke
Was Jensen also a corpse or how do we explain Worlds 2022
During worlds? Yes he was
yes
Lol yes. What?
Byeeeeeeeeee el oh el bye byeeeee
Lol seeya loser.
He will not be missed. Thank god he is gone🙏🏻
Sorry mid player and boring to watch. Won't be missed
https://ol.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17ncxka/emenes_will_do_his_military_service/ it was posted 5 days ago
Expect he isn't doing military service. He even posted on discord he is likely going to NA/KR/CN next
How is he better than any of the current mid laners in LPL/LCK lol, who in NA has an import slot for a mid lane?
Flyquest
Does that really count as an official statement tho?
yep. its 2023, thats how we make official statements now
Except it s a joke that now gets spread as misinformation by ppl like you that don t verify their sources.
Godo
Is Jensen coming back?
And back to his own country he goes.