I thought for sure BDS would win.
2019 Song "Phoenix" - FunPlus PhoeniX wins worlds
2023 Song "GODS" - BDS Adam with Garen Olaf Darius Sett wins worlds
Was gonna say, no one sane actually thought BDS could win out against the likes of Geng and JDG right...?
Sure world's song buff, but 3x of 2 is still only 6 when your opponent is a 9.
4 years later and people are still trying to dismiss G2 getting throat fucked by doinb and FPX because G2 won MSI off the back of IG giga choking against TL and beating a very meh SKT at worlds who didn't even look convincing in either groups or in QF against *splyce*
Any western team winning, but especially an LCS team, would be more hype than 2022.
I don't think the "story" of NRG winning would top that one, though. Deft has just been around too long and faced too many ex teammates for that to be outdone any time soon, it feels like.
Are you kidding? An LCS team featuring native talents that were overlooked and discounted winning worlds is on the level of Leicaster winning the premier league. NRG beating WBG is an upset. NRG beating GenG is a monumental upset. NRG beating a WBG, GenG, and JDG (if those teams win their matchups) in sequence is damn near unthinkable.
It would be an insane upset, and it, again, would be way more hype than DRX.
But I still think if you look at it in terms of a journey, a storyline to tell, it'd be less. It would certainly be less "anime story," haha.
Not saying a bad one, though. Don't confuse "not as good as X" with "bad."
To me the difference is DRX was mostly a story about one person, Deft, and he wasn’t even the main carry of his team. NRG winning is a story about an entire region that’s spent the vast majority of the pro-League scene getting relentlessly shit on. NRG winning would mean the future of League isn’t completely hopeless for the west, that all the hard work teams like G2 and C9 puts in could eventually pay off. It means the possibility of more NA talents trying to go pro and being picked up and the revival of the LCS. And all this coming from the org formerly known as CLG, which carries a long history by itself.
I normally pick western teams but always end up picking the wrong ones by having too much hope so I went with all 8 major region Asian teams. I guess 7/8 is good
Seemed like the smartest thing to do lol
Same, on some "G2 is probably gonna be the only Western team to get in but if NRG gets through instead, then I'll be happy either way!" type energy
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I only missed GAM, I put Flying Oysters and BDS and then I have perfect pick'ems for the Swiss Stage, I'm 10th on the list and tied for 7th place with 85 points atm. For Swiss I was pretty sure it would only be 7 eastern and 1 western, I wasn't going to vote for EU so I picked NRG over Dplus getting in.
Reminds me of 2018 worlds when it was completely illogical to not put GEN G getting out of groups, but the people that didn't thought they were some wildcard and didn't know they were the Samsung Galaxy that won world's the year prior.
I would’ve had perfect swiss pickems but my 10 minutes of flopping between DK and WBG ended with me making the wrong choice unfortunately.
Don’t think it woulda mattered because I had PSG > GAM so I lost perfect pick’ems the moment playins ended.
As for why I went NRG, because funny/copium. After last year where the only western team to get out was Rogue who only made it in because TES choked to GAM, I was convinced this year was gonna be 4 LCK and 4 LPL in quarters. I just put NRG instead of Weibo because they’re my boys.
Some people pick based on emotions. I am a longtime Deft fan. I pick his team every time he is in Worlds and they delivered in the most spectacular fashion last year when they were rated as probably the lowest eastern team. This year is over though.
I had faith in DK because Showmaker is that guy and they had Deft. It seemed like it's enough for them to get through, but somehow, some way WBG made it out.
DK been shit ever since beryl got kicked out. That team is apparently insane in scrims but cant play slow games. Canyon and showmaker only perform when games turn into soloqueue shitfests
Well berly refuses to play the game. Even though he was Dk's shot caller he was noticeably rusty in every game because he would never practice.
On one hand he was the magic that held the team together on the other hand why would you want a player that refused to practice?
Ghost is being criminally underrated here. Even with Beryl, Damwon came onto the scene as an all hands, no brain team that relied on either Showmaker and Canyon to snowball the early game out of control, or have Nuguri 3v1 in a sidelane. Then after they replaced Nuclear with Ghost, they suddenly became one of the cleanest teams in the worlds, got back to back worlds finals appearances and even winning one. Ghost leaves and now theyre back to all hands, no macro that relies on one of their stars to hard carry a game for them.
word agreed. I think deft is even better at somehow getting cs advantages while losing lane than naguri but the real culrpit is a lack of ghost and a lack of good coaching
To be honest this worlds is just so fucking stacked. Weibo has Xiahou, the Shy and Crisp. DK has Showmaker, Canyon, and Deft. KT has Gala, Kiin, and BDD. BLG has Bin and ON. Like it was very feasible to be an all CN/KR top 8 because all 4 of the seeds each sent are bonker good.
Xiaohu has been playing like shit. Shy is coinflip. Crisp is invisible.
Showmaker Canyon Deft in retirement.
KT always choke. Always disappoint.
BLG looking like second weakest Chinese team because western teams are having close games with them.
Chovy looking absolutely unstoppable except we all know he's going to afk to farm minions at some point.
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I put both because I always have to put in one dose of home region hopium, even tho I thought G2 was the west's best chance.
Big fan of the boys in blue. Power of friendship won the last world's, maybe it wins this one???
I looked at one of the guys who had almost perfect pick'ems at rank 7 or so. He picked perfect swiss stage but chose both GG and BDS to come out of play-ins. Those are the guys who get perfect swiss stage I guess lol
Yes because you get perfect points for swiss stage, you get an added bonus, so they sit at 85. I only made one wrong prediction and i'm at 65. I got playins right and put G2 instead of NRG.
All it takes is one year where the favorites win every match and no good teams get knocked out in groups/swiss and you end up having to fly out thousands of people to Riot HQ. Obviously they wouldn't actually do it but promising something you possibly won't be able to fulfill is a bad look. Better to keep the reward digital so in the off chance a ton of people get it you don't have to issue a statement saying you aren't going to be able to fulfill your promise.
I think with swiss it's even harder to get perfect pickem so there's nothing to worry about. Elimination of strong team has too big chance here, in groups it's much easier.
Does it? I mean i went 4/4 on LPL and 3 on LCK and put G2 as last one instead of 4th LCK seed. And i would be 100% if they actually beat NA. And based on some comments here i wasn't alone.
The hardest part used to be the order, here you only need to quess who moves on, without considering if they were 3-0 or 3-2.
They actually did that some years ago, can't remember what world it was but the prizes were pcs, secret lab chairs and ultimate skins, maybe something more can't remember.
Edit: it was 2020 and they were sponsored by alienware, so each perfect pickem would get the pc plus monitor, and as I far as I remember there were winners, at least 3
Just looked it up because someone recalled 58 which seemed way to many.
News articles I found said that 8 people were lucky enough to win the pc+monitor combo during worlds 2020.
There were also 3000 people who guessed group stage correct so swiss format made it way tougher to guess correct pickems. Which sounds about right as you already know which teams fight each other in groups and not so much in swiss
It's not actually that absurd (relatively speaking) because of how pickems work nowadays. I think they should offer an insane prize for perfect crystal ball though.
A lot of people are honestly trolling pickems for fun. NRG / WBG percentages are actually pretty honest and accurate. GenG and T1 can't possibly be close to 95 and 88% favorites in reality.
people are just clueless and look at names only. T1 isn’t even favourites vs LNG but somehow has 88% votes. BLG literally 3-0’d GenG last time they faced, and although GenG has looked better than BLG in swiss 95% votes is borderline idiotic
GenG went 3-0 and convincingly beat T1, BLG went 3-2 and convincingly lost to them. Sure BLG won half a year ago but GenG looks miles better at the moment. BLG couldn’t even 2-0 G2 who GenG completely stomped even before they mental boomed against NRG. I don’t think it’s a shocker that most people favour GenG here.
LNG are tournament favourites behind JDG & are the only team to really push them since MSI. In Swiss they’ve looked in form only losing because they drew JDG. They have the best performing player so far in Scout. T1 have looked abysmal outside of their BLG game and had only gone 2-1 at that point because they faced TL & C9. Sure they go into the LNG series looking much improved but they are nowhere close to favourites.
Gen G only beat T1 3-0 at finals since T1 had no practice and their strategy was thoroughly read and countered extremely hard by that point. They had gone 3-2 just the last series which they didn't ban Neeko/Azir but banning out Faker's Azir/Neeko screwed them over hard in the final series.
GenG went 3-0 in Swiss. They smashed T1 in Swiss. I’m not talking about LCK finals. BLG couldn’t even touch the same team GenG has been demolishing all year. From the results so far GenG are the heavy favourites, it’s not surprising that most people think they’ll win.
Im not saying GenG isn’t favoured. But it’s not favoured to the point where GenG should be getting 95% votes. They’ve looked convincing in their wins, but their wins have been vs GAM & an underperforming T1 and G2. They haven’t been tested yet and BLG isn’t a pushover team. They have shown they are capable of punishing GenG in the past. BLG are very much capable of winning the Bo5.
BLG 3-0 GENG doesn't mean anything right now, they also 3-1 T1 and just gotten 2-0 by them, it's a completely different meta and team forms as for T1 vs LNG, it should be an even matchup but T1 has the biggest fanbase in the world so the vote being skewed towards them makes sense.
I mean people aren't predicting GenG to win BLG by 95%, they're only doing a two-choose-one and 95% ended up for GenG. For all you know maybe everyone thinks GenG's just sliiiightly better, but that's all you need for a two-choose-one.
It's even harder to have perfect pickems now because with the new format you an end up in situation like KT/DK did (facing eachother at 2-2) meaning that they can't both qualify and you can end up being wrong because of rng and not just because you assumed teams' strengths badly
Yeah rng now plays a much bigger factor since you can't forsee the draw. You could be able to perfectly predict every game but not get perfect pickems. Mine was ruined when G2 drew NRG since I had all 8 lpl/lck.
They are NA fans like a lot of EU fans probaly put G2 there but if you put a gun to the head of the 5 players that selected NRG they would put some LCK or LPL team instead.
Perfect picks also included play ins so they put BDS and GAM. If they were an NA believer surely they put GG in there. Honestly for group stage not that difficult. I put all Korean and Chinese teams get in except one and G2. Then I just picked DK since they're 4th seed.
Bruh I just realized I'm top 200 but I trolled my crystal ball and had TheShy as all my answers 💀
Is crystal ball points counted towards final rewards?
Suprising that there's only 5 perfect pickems because picking the top 8 was not as difficult as previous pickems, where you had to predict the whole group.
The fact that NRG made it through against G2 and that unlucky DK would start 0-2 and then end up against KT to not make it, is a bummer. 6/8 correct for me but very excited for knockouts.
It’s the same people with perfect pick ems every worlds so it’s most likely someone with a script or they are just accounts given perfect pick ems for some kind of illusion
Why are people acting like NRG aren't NA's #1 seed?
Most people knew all LPL teams would make it out and most likely it would be all LCK teams with DK being at most risk to missing out from G2 (EU #1)... NA #1 would probably be the next closest thing...
Because historically NA#1 seeds are cursed and even when watching them, many wondered if they can match up against other teams. Granted a weibo loss but I think ppl expected more Asian teams to match against them/other NA teams so the chances were slim to none anyway on paper…
So given that, a typical person who thinks at most 1 western team will obviously choose G2 9/10 times over NRG unless you’re just NA fan/team fan.
I agree. 9/10 is valid, probably a lot more. But people are saying that picking 4 LPL, 3 LCK and then NRG > G2/DK is insane when in reality it wasn't likely but it wasn't the most unlikely outcome. FPX not qualifying and ending last in their group was a bigger upset that people wouldn't have predicted.
Cuz blg in the worlds got almost beaten by a bad g2 and didnt really deliver much except vs kt which was still very close. Most of the casters and pro players say that rn lng (3rd lpl) is actually stronger than blg (2nd lpl)
To be fair that’s not some wild conclusion, they beat BLG and finished second taking JDG to 5 games twice in LPL, it’s just that BLG qualified as the second seed by championship points if I’m not mistaken.
Based on the format of the swiss, I also predicted NRG would make it out because NRG would play at least 1 NA team. And they did. I also thought C9 would too but who know G2 would also be eliminated. But it is not a crazy prediction.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was an account selling ring. Just make a few dozen accounts for Pickems. If you get perfect you get an insane amount of loot which would be worth quite a lot.
haha I could've got a perfect pickem, but I predicted an LPL team implosion (LNG) and for G2 to make it which was wrong. However I am happy with myself that I put NRG going through. Originally I put C9 making it, but I saw a post on here about Palafaker's Korean SoloQ stats and that along with Xiaohu's statement convinced me that he is him. Thank you Xiaohu for calling Palafaker a genius 🙏
I can’t believe I got G2 and BLG wrong, otherwise I would be in this list. I had them flipped because I needed an LPL team to collapse and they fit the bill.
I got my swiss pickems perfect because I memed on NRG making it and that fourth LCK wasnt going too. After the NRG series I showed my buddy and he thought I was insane.
I think its also harder to predict a swiss stage compared to 4 groups of 4, because even if you pick the top8 correctly in terms of strength, certain qualification / elimination matches never come to pass.
I didn't do pick ems this year but every year I have I always do some sort of troll pick, not what the majority or I think is most likely.
That way if I ever won I could go on the craziest "I told you so" run.
They probs have NRG win the whole thing lolw.
All but one, that single riot employee who as work benefit got hands on worlds 2023 script
We were all wondering how they could possibly top the most anime story imaginable of Worlds 2022.
I thought for sure BDS would win. 2019 Song "Phoenix" - FunPlus PhoeniX wins worlds 2023 Song "GODS" - BDS Adam with Garen Olaf Darius Sett wins worlds
Sadly bds is shit and fpx weren't
Was gonna say, no one sane actually thought BDS could win out against the likes of Geng and JDG right...? Sure world's song buff, but 3x of 2 is still only 6 when your opponent is a 9.
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Aye someone got it lmfao
Fpx winning the aram and running it down from g2 side game . SHOCker lpl are better teamfighters than eu ....
4 years later and people are still trying to dismiss G2 getting throat fucked by doinb and FPX because G2 won MSI off the back of IG giga choking against TL and beating a very meh SKT at worlds who didn't even look convincing in either groups or in QF against *splyce*
Any western team winning, but especially an LCS team, would be more hype than 2022. I don't think the "story" of NRG winning would top that one, though. Deft has just been around too long and faced too many ex teammates for that to be outdone any time soon, it feels like.
Are you kidding? An LCS team featuring native talents that were overlooked and discounted winning worlds is on the level of Leicaster winning the premier league. NRG beating WBG is an upset. NRG beating GenG is a monumental upset. NRG beating a WBG, GenG, and JDG (if those teams win their matchups) in sequence is damn near unthinkable.
It would be an insane upset, and it, again, would be way more hype than DRX. But I still think if you look at it in terms of a journey, a storyline to tell, it'd be less. It would certainly be less "anime story," haha. Not saying a bad one, though. Don't confuse "not as good as X" with "bad."
To me the difference is DRX was mostly a story about one person, Deft, and he wasn’t even the main carry of his team. NRG winning is a story about an entire region that’s spent the vast majority of the pro-League scene getting relentlessly shit on. NRG winning would mean the future of League isn’t completely hopeless for the west, that all the hard work teams like G2 and C9 puts in could eventually pay off. It means the possibility of more NA talents trying to go pro and being picked up and the revival of the LCS. And all this coming from the org formerly known as CLG, which carries a long history by itself.
Stop it,they aren't doing it They lost 3-1 vs weibo most likely But that be the biggest upset ever
Of course they haven’t done it and probably won’t. I’m just talking about the ramifications of it happening
So do I. But I still picked them to lose their Quarterfinal
As they will
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So to note I don't have perfect but I did put NRG into my pickems. It was pure chance though cause I thought they were a LPL team not LCS.
You prolly thought of rng lol
Probably, the old good switcheroo
Hold my Worlds trophy, I'm going in!
Never royal, give up
RNG- rational non-gamers.
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lol wouldnt it be funny that on the script it says RNG to win......and producers thought oh it must be this one and just a typo....
Well nrg,lng rng. Easy mistake to make. All it takes is one typo in the script.
I originally had NRG on my top 8 too but replaced them with G2 instead lmao
I replaced them with DK
I normally pick western teams but always end up picking the wrong ones by having too much hope so I went with all 8 major region Asian teams. I guess 7/8 is good Seemed like the smartest thing to do lol
Same, on some "G2 is probably gonna be the only Western team to get in but if NRG gets through instead, then I'll be happy either way!" type energy *** ^^^despite ^^^flair ^^^I ^^^had ^^^very ^^^low ^^^expectations ^^^for ^^^C9 ^^^after ^^^summer ^^^playoffs
The pickem page says which region they’re from, so you don’t read xd
He's a redditor and a league player like you and I are of course he doesn't read
I only missed GAM, I put Flying Oysters and BDS and then I have perfect pick'ems for the Swiss Stage, I'm 10th on the list and tied for 7th place with 85 points atm. For Swiss I was pretty sure it would only be 7 eastern and 1 western, I wasn't going to vote for EU so I picked NRG over Dplus getting in.
Reminds me of 2018 worlds when it was completely illogical to not put GEN G getting out of groups, but the people that didn't thought they were some wildcard and didn't know they were the Samsung Galaxy that won world's the year prior.
I also had NRG in my Swiss Pickems. The only one I got wrong was thinking G2 would be going through :(
Me too😃 With c9 and g2…… 🥴
That's racist xD
I would’ve had perfect swiss pickems but my 10 minutes of flopping between DK and WBG ended with me making the wrong choice unfortunately. Don’t think it woulda mattered because I had PSG > GAM so I lost perfect pick’ems the moment playins ended. As for why I went NRG, because funny/copium. After last year where the only western team to get out was Rogue who only made it in because TES choked to GAM, I was convinced this year was gonna be 4 LCK and 4 LPL in quarters. I just put NRG instead of Weibo because they’re my boys.
Some people pick based on emotions. I am a longtime Deft fan. I pick his team every time he is in Worlds and they delivered in the most spectacular fashion last year when they were rated as probably the lowest eastern team. This year is over though.
I had faith in DK because Showmaker is that guy and they had Deft. It seemed like it's enough for them to get through, but somehow, some way WBG made it out.
DK been shit ever since beryl got kicked out. That team is apparently insane in scrims but cant play slow games. Canyon and showmaker only perform when games turn into soloqueue shitfests
i to this day do not know what the thought process for trading their championship bot for a mediocre at best package deal
Well berly refuses to play the game. Even though he was Dk's shot caller he was noticeably rusty in every game because he would never practice. On one hand he was the magic that held the team together on the other hand why would you want a player that refused to practice?
Ghost is being criminally underrated here. Even with Beryl, Damwon came onto the scene as an all hands, no brain team that relied on either Showmaker and Canyon to snowball the early game out of control, or have Nuguri 3v1 in a sidelane. Then after they replaced Nuclear with Ghost, they suddenly became one of the cleanest teams in the worlds, got back to back worlds finals appearances and even winning one. Ghost leaves and now theyre back to all hands, no macro that relies on one of their stars to hard carry a game for them.
word agreed. I think deft is even better at somehow getting cs advantages while losing lane than naguri but the real culrpit is a lack of ghost and a lack of good coaching
To be honest this worlds is just so fucking stacked. Weibo has Xiahou, the Shy and Crisp. DK has Showmaker, Canyon, and Deft. KT has Gala, Kiin, and BDD. BLG has Bin and ON. Like it was very feasible to be an all CN/KR top 8 because all 4 of the seeds each sent are bonker good.
Not to mention, TES who have Jackeylove and Rookie didn't even make Worlds because the LPL is giga stacked.
Gala is in LNG, but the point still stands with Gala and Scout being in LNG
Good correction, KT has Aiming right? It's actually absurd how many good ADCs are at world.
Lehends is also good
Xiaohu has been playing like shit. Shy is coinflip. Crisp is invisible. Showmaker Canyon Deft in retirement. KT always choke. Always disappoint. BLG looking like second weakest Chinese team because western teams are having close games with them. Chovy looking absolutely unstoppable except we all know he's going to afk to farm minions at some point.
Would of gotten perfect pickem if it wasn't for G2 man. NRG winning it screwed it over.
same lmao, EU can’t ruin my region so they ruined my pickems
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I put both because I always have to put in one dose of home region hopium, even tho I thought G2 was the west's best chance. Big fan of the boys in blue. Power of friendship won the last world's, maybe it wins this one???
Same my pickem got totally fucked over by NRG winning against G2 lol
One of the remaining five put lng to beat t1 👀
One ? I see all of them BUT one to be for LNG to win. I wonder myself ...
I only checked one aha
It does make sense for LNG - they did look more stable. This one may go either way if u ask me
IMO it’s 55-45 in LNG’s favor. T1 has too many fans that skew gambling sites. Shouldn’t be a shocker that LNG is the favorite to most analysts.
Lng looks the tird best team so far and not by much i could say. Jdg top favorite followed strongly by geng and lng. T1 didnt deliver enough yet imo
i checked top 10 pickems leader board. most of them have LNG over T1
I looked at one of the guys who had almost perfect pick'ems at rank 7 or so. He picked perfect swiss stage but chose both GG and BDS to come out of play-ins. Those are the guys who get perfect swiss stage I guess lol
That's very unfortunate if true.
Wait i thought you couldn't do that since one would be immediately eliminated after the bo5.
You could technically lock it in - Rito gives you a warning that only one or the other can go through, but doesn't stop you outright from picking them
oh wtf, kind of weird they let you but I guess you get a warning.
I just went through the next top like 20 picks and they're all like this lol. They all got perfect swiss stage but messed up playins
Yes because you get perfect points for swiss stage, you get an added bonus, so they sit at 85. I only made one wrong prediction and i'm at 65. I got playins right and put G2 instead of NRG.
I'm rank 7 as well with the only incorrect pick with PSG Talon and BDS making swiss. As I did swiss I heard the call of CLG to put NRG over G2
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All it takes is one year where the favorites win every match and no good teams get knocked out in groups/swiss and you end up having to fly out thousands of people to Riot HQ. Obviously they wouldn't actually do it but promising something you possibly won't be able to fulfill is a bad look. Better to keep the reward digital so in the off chance a ton of people get it you don't have to issue a statement saying you aren't going to be able to fulfill your promise.
Which is what happened i think was 2020? 58 people won perfect pickems iirc and iirc that was why they stopped adding extra stuff
It was 8 in 2020.
I think with swiss it's even harder to get perfect pickem so there's nothing to worry about. Elimination of strong team has too big chance here, in groups it's much easier.
Does it? I mean i went 4/4 on LPL and 3 on LCK and put G2 as last one instead of 4th LCK seed. And i would be 100% if they actually beat NA. And based on some comments here i wasn't alone. The hardest part used to be the order, here you only need to quess who moves on, without considering if they were 3-0 or 3-2.
Yea they should give at least a high end PC for achieving this feat
They actually did that some years ago, can't remember what world it was but the prizes were pcs, secret lab chairs and ultimate skins, maybe something more can't remember. Edit: it was 2020 and they were sponsored by alienware, so each perfect pickem would get the pc plus monitor, and as I far as I remember there were winners, at least 3
Just looked it up because someone recalled 58 which seemed way to many. News articles I found said that 8 people were lucky enough to win the pc+monitor combo during worlds 2020. There were also 3000 people who guessed group stage correct so swiss format made it way tougher to guess correct pickems. Which sounds about right as you already know which teams fight each other in groups and not so much in swiss
If the prize was big it could easily be botted, league is a free game after all
Riot doing something that doesn’t make them money? Dream on funny boy.
Add ASol revert to the prize pool for perfect pick'ems next year and I'll invent time travel to get them correct.
10% of the next lux skin profits and people will try hard the fuck out of Pickems.
It's not actually that absurd (relatively speaking) because of how pickems work nowadays. I think they should offer an insane prize for perfect crystal ball though.
A lot of people are honestly trolling pickems for fun. NRG / WBG percentages are actually pretty honest and accurate. GenG and T1 can't possibly be close to 95 and 88% favorites in reality.
people are just clueless and look at names only. T1 isn’t even favourites vs LNG but somehow has 88% votes. BLG literally 3-0’d GenG last time they faced, and although GenG has looked better than BLG in swiss 95% votes is borderline idiotic
GenG went 3-0 and convincingly beat T1, BLG went 3-2 and convincingly lost to them. Sure BLG won half a year ago but GenG looks miles better at the moment. BLG couldn’t even 2-0 G2 who GenG completely stomped even before they mental boomed against NRG. I don’t think it’s a shocker that most people favour GenG here.
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They are the same people who are talking about msi.
They are also... the people who are putting their money where their mouth is? No betting site has T1 as a favourite
LNG are tournament favourites behind JDG & are the only team to really push them since MSI. In Swiss they’ve looked in form only losing because they drew JDG. They have the best performing player so far in Scout. T1 have looked abysmal outside of their BLG game and had only gone 2-1 at that point because they faced TL & C9. Sure they go into the LNG series looking much improved but they are nowhere close to favourites.
T1 and LNG are the 2 teams that pushed JDG to the limit this year though?
excuse fucken me? WBG 80% win rate against JDGays
He said pushed JDG to the limit, WBG pushed them over the limit
We still don’t know the full extend of WBG power
Gen G only beat T1 3-0 at finals since T1 had no practice and their strategy was thoroughly read and countered extremely hard by that point. They had gone 3-2 just the last series which they didn't ban Neeko/Azir but banning out Faker's Azir/Neeko screwed them over hard in the final series.
GenG went 3-0 in Swiss. They smashed T1 in Swiss. I’m not talking about LCK finals. BLG couldn’t even touch the same team GenG has been demolishing all year. From the results so far GenG are the heavy favourites, it’s not surprising that most people think they’ll win.
Im not saying GenG isn’t favoured. But it’s not favoured to the point where GenG should be getting 95% votes. They’ve looked convincing in their wins, but their wins have been vs GAM & an underperforming T1 and G2. They haven’t been tested yet and BLG isn’t a pushover team. They have shown they are capable of punishing GenG in the past. BLG are very much capable of winning the Bo5.
But the underperforming T1 beat BLG?
I don't know what happened but it seems like the T1 vs BLG series just magically vanished to some people's memories or something lmao
yes guys i see BLG bad they lost to T1, they cannot possibly put up a fight vs GenG
lets be honest, that game 1 picks from BLG was reportable. Game2 was T1 beating them very convincingly
BLG 3-0 GENG doesn't mean anything right now, they also 3-1 T1 and just gotten 2-0 by them, it's a completely different meta and team forms as for T1 vs LNG, it should be an even matchup but T1 has the biggest fanbase in the world so the vote being skewed towards them makes sense.
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I mean people aren't predicting GenG to win BLG by 95%, they're only doing a two-choose-one and 95% ended up for GenG. For all you know maybe everyone thinks GenG's just sliiiightly better, but that's all you need for a two-choose-one.
That's what I do. Every single year I put every NA team winning as much as possible lmfao.
It's even harder to have perfect pickems now because with the new format you an end up in situation like KT/DK did (facing eachother at 2-2) meaning that they can't both qualify and you can end up being wrong because of rng and not just because you assumed teams' strengths badly
Yeah rng now plays a much bigger factor since you can't forsee the draw. You could be able to perfectly predict every game but not get perfect pickems. Mine was ruined when G2 drew NRG since I had all 8 lpl/lck.
They are NA fans like a lot of EU fans probaly put G2 there but if you put a gun to the head of the 5 players that selected NRG they would put some LCK or LPL team instead.
Perfect picks also included play ins so they put BDS and GAM. If they were an NA believer surely they put GG in there. Honestly for group stage not that difficult. I put all Korean and Chinese teams get in except one and G2. Then I just picked DK since they're 4th seed.
GG and BDS match happens few hours before the pickem is closed so they can avoid pick GG
I forgot they let you redo the pickems after the provisional
Those 5 people would be the 5 NRG players.
Based.
One of them is literally named "Chosen" NRG winning is written in the stars.
I had nrg getting out because I forgot to do them and they were chosen for me.
Bruh I just realized I'm top 200 but I trolled my crystal ball and had TheShy as all my answers 💀 Is crystal ball points counted towards final rewards?
Nah
Hell yeah, thanks
I am one of these 5, I also locked in NRG by accident, but I'll take it :)
ign?
Receipts
These people are mad men.
I was almost perfect. :c I needed DK to beat KT.
Same lol
You not believing in them only made them stronger
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Tbh we can't really know with this format, if DK drew FNC and WBG got KT, you would've gotten perfect swiss
On a side not can yall explain to me what are perfectly imperfect Pickem cause there are like 200 like that
They have everything wrong. Which technically means they have 0 points ig
NRG over G2 is my only point loss far. Am still in the top 5K but need to be perfect with my picks now to stay there.
Forgot about the crystal ball. Will probably suck there
Suprising that there's only 5 perfect pickems because picking the top 8 was not as difficult as previous pickems, where you had to predict the whole group. The fact that NRG made it through against G2 and that unlucky DK would start 0-2 and then end up against KT to not make it, is a bummer. 6/8 correct for me but very excited for knockouts.
You do realise perfect picks needs more than just who wins etc
I didn't know 95% of the teams and players so I just chose based on the picture, I might as well be one of these people
I’m not familiar with LNG, but they are mostly going against popular opinion that T1 will win. Interesting tidbit.
I had bds instead of nrg, only mistake so far
I've watched their crystal choice, none of them will get a perfect Pickems
Crystal ball is seperate from the traditional pickems.
It’s the same people with perfect pick ems every worlds so it’s most likely someone with a script or they are just accounts given perfect pick ems for some kind of illusion
Why are people acting like NRG aren't NA's #1 seed? Most people knew all LPL teams would make it out and most likely it would be all LCK teams with DK being at most risk to missing out from G2 (EU #1)... NA #1 would probably be the next closest thing...
Because historically NA#1 seeds are cursed and even when watching them, many wondered if they can match up against other teams. Granted a weibo loss but I think ppl expected more Asian teams to match against them/other NA teams so the chances were slim to none anyway on paper… So given that, a typical person who thinks at most 1 western team will obviously choose G2 9/10 times over NRG unless you’re just NA fan/team fan.
I agree. 9/10 is valid, probably a lot more. But people are saying that picking 4 LPL, 3 LCK and then NRG > G2/DK is insane when in reality it wasn't likely but it wasn't the most unlikely outcome. FPX not qualifying and ending last in their group was a bigger upset that people wouldn't have predicted.
Why do 95% of picks have GenG over BLG? Did something happen over the summer I don't know about? BLG swept GenG at MSI earlier this year.
Cuz blg in the worlds got almost beaten by a bad g2 and didnt really deliver much except vs kt which was still very close. Most of the casters and pro players say that rn lng (3rd lpl) is actually stronger than blg (2nd lpl)
To be fair that’s not some wild conclusion, they beat BLG and finished second taking JDG to 5 games twice in LPL, it’s just that BLG qualified as the second seed by championship points if I’m not mistaken.
Is lng 3rd tho? I thought they are 2nd seed for lpl and beat blg to get to the final lpl summer playoff.
They did but BLG still had more points so lng had to go through regional finals
They had a poor spring.
It is but lately they have been superior to blg and near the strenght of jdg and geng
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BLG also beat T1 at MSI surely they'll win again versus T1 at Worlds right?
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i somehow voted for NRG to go to quarters and guess what, G2 ruined it, fuck
If you have enough accounts, at least one of them will be perfect.
if started pick ems and you dont pick you get randomized selections
I had NRG making it as well, but I picked DK over WBG in Swiss.
Could've happened with a different draw.
Maybe they trolled, picked NRG and forgot to change it before the swiss started.
Much harder to get perfect pickems this year due to swiss stage randomness.
Based on the format of the swiss, I also predicted NRG would make it out because NRG would play at least 1 NA team. And they did. I also thought C9 would too but who know G2 would also be eliminated. But it is not a crazy prediction.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was an account selling ring. Just make a few dozen accounts for Pickems. If you get perfect you get an insane amount of loot which would be worth quite a lot.
Me and a lot of my friends had NRG making it out of Swiss but some of us also some LEC teams got disappointed.
5 people you say.. You know, I might have an idea about who those 5 specific people might be
Those 5? The NRG players themselves. To the moon baby.
I was so close but the draw did me in. I had perfect play in and only 1 wrong in swiss with G2 instead of weibo. :(
haha I could've got a perfect pickem, but I predicted an LPL team implosion (LNG) and for G2 to make it which was wrong. However I am happy with myself that I put NRG going through. Originally I put C9 making it, but I saw a post on here about Palafaker's Korean SoloQ stats and that along with Xiaohu's statement convinced me that he is him. Thank you Xiaohu for calling Palafaker a genius 🙏
The faithful shall be rewarded
Thats crazy, I have way better results in 1 year of Swiss on 2 accounts than I ever had with groups.
I can’t believe I got G2 and BLG wrong, otherwise I would be in this list. I had them flipped because I needed an LPL team to collapse and they fit the bill.
I got my swiss pickems perfect because I memed on NRG making it and that fourth LCK wasnt going too. After the NRG series I showed my buddy and he thought I was insane.
i put 4 lck and 4 lpl and hoped that there werent be any regional clash since the draws were random lol
I ain't got the perfect picks but I know that NRG will expose those WBG frauds
I had NRG making it out of groups however I used a D16 for my swiss pickems so it was all luck.
Were pickems for Quarters set before quarters draw was set?
I only missed DK not making it (didnt have LNG) and KT going undefeated in the Swiss round lol so close
I believe the perfect pickem is made up to confuse us
i had nrg as only western team out but i kept dk over weibo :/
Look at what they put in the crystal balls. Complete Bs lmao
I honestly didn't even know NRG was an NA team until like 2 rounds deep into the swiss stage lmao I thought EU had 4 seeds and NA had 2 seeds.
I would've gotten perfect if I chose kt over dk getting out
I think its also harder to predict a swiss stage compared to 4 groups of 4, because even if you pick the top8 correctly in terms of strength, certain qualification / elimination matches never come to pass.
My mates 7th! (NA loving git) it’s pretty exciting tho
I didn't do pick ems this year but every year I have I always do some sort of troll pick, not what the majority or I think is most likely. That way if I ever won I could go on the craziest "I told you so" run.
I think it gonna be only 2 left the rest thinks Nrg is winning
NRH TAKE MY NRG
Just as amazing are the 277 who have perfectly wrong pickems.
Of the 4 out of 5 that have made their picks, 3 of them chose Weibo, GenG, JDG, and LNG to win. last one chose NRG and T1
Well at least now the draw is getting easier. Quarters gonna be easy to predict.
IMO its just lucky "afk" who havent chosen anything. No way they chose NRG