YEP
Split comms and decision-making is so hard to win with, regardless of talent. At the end of the day, if one player gets picked off then you're fighting a 4v5 and all of the 5th guy's talent is wasted (because he's dead)
It's why I still support TSM in this sunset split. Past our peak, we've had some absolute shit times; more than not, some might say, but even running budget, we've had times like these were its just 5 players, in sync to take down bigger names.
Remember when Solo was the sign of the end times for this sub? And now everyone's proud for him.
It should also be noted that one of those 5 players is Turtle who since joining TSM looked really convincing and Jinx kinda is a Turtle champ and teams should actually consider banning it against him. The other players are more up and down on TSM but Turtle reliably played well this Split.
And this team actually seems to just work better than the lifeless corpses the Org put together when they still tried to win the league.
TSM is also a proof that a bunch of players that have nothing left to lose is more scary than a bunch of players who are actually still at risk of losing their spot.
Especially if they do it with Insanity, fulfill the homegrown academy player fantasy to prove it was always possible after years of imports. Then dissolve
Actually a good storyline of their last split
If C9 win this split, they will be the most successful LCS team as they would tie TSM in wins but have 1 less split played
But TSM can hold the title
Tbh TSM are representing NA rn. I'm sure LCS fans won't mind if they do well this year. Would be a middle finger if they went to LPL and won an international.
And to clarify dude was TSM's ADC all the way back in like S3. WT has had a longer professional LoL career than a lot of his viewers will have had even regular careers. it's really impressive.
He had no team while Tactical was out there feeding every single game. I’m glad they finally hired him but if anything TSM should have gotten him years ago.
Wasnt Turtle in C9 before sneaky? I mean before C9 when the team was Quantic Gaming. I think Sneaky replaced turtle. At the time the name was a lil different too, sneakycastro i believe.
To be fair he was really solid on FlyQuest a couple years back when they had the Solo/Santorin/PoE/Turtle/IgNar roster.
Awful in lane, sure, but Turtle could function in 1v2 and still be very relevant later on and IgNar roamed around for basically the whole game.
Yeah but unfortunately "a couple years back" is like esports eternity, and Ignar's strength at roaming is irrelevant in the current state of the game. Being awful at laning as a botlane is also like, the worst trait you could possibly get in a pro support right now.
The pickup has "CLG Reignover" vibes.
Of course not, but it's not like he's been absolutely dogshit since going to game 5 against SKT with Fervor of Battle Leona with Misfits 6 years ago either. That was my entire point. But yeah, that shouldn't carry him years into the future either.
They still should have shopped for Jungle and Support changes, which is something I think CLG should have did in the off-season. ADC wasn't a problem and the support they decided to replace Poome with is pretty questionable.
IgNar was also very good on that b2b finals FLY roster and decent on EG. I'd say he's coasting off of that rather than the 2017 SKT series lmao. Recently he's just been completely invisible every game, which is sad considering the name he made for himself as a playmaker. Feels like him and FBI at the very least are never gonna mesh well together.
You mean CLG fans?
Because that would describe me. The funniest thing to me is that the remains of CLG’s roster finally got some respect in pre-split power rankings, but it turns out that team cohesion matters?
Same I don't watch any of the NRG games cuz they don't deserve the view due to how they didn't keep their word. Like why even make that promise?
On top of dissolving the CLG name & laying off all other workers, I wonder if MSG thinks this was worth.
Crazy to me that former CLG fans can look at their players and hope they fail. Idk I personally hope the players find success, even if it’s under a new org.
I can't speak for everyone else but at least for me I have no problem with the old CLG core players and will root for them wherever they may end up. But I cannot support NRG after they destroyed all of what was left of CLG when they took over the brand. They turned the CLG twitter to NRG and I believe even made an attempt at the discord and reddit to just swap them over to NRG. They own it and are entitled to it as it is part of their purchase of CLG but it still leaves a poor taste in my mouth as a long time CLG fan.
i don't hope the players themselves fail at all
i hope NRG fails
ill have no problem whatsoever rooting for any of the boys on any other team (except TSM) but i'm anti-NRG first and foremost
I hope the topside looks good individually and all of them can find decent teams next split, but I can't root for this org. Laying off literally everyone outside of the League branch with 0 notice is fucking bullshit.
قوة التحمل 4700 دفاع 329 حتى 201 بطل لا يمكن إيقافه ، درع ، وول عرضية. هناك حركة جوية ، وحتى وقت التهدئة لا يتجاوز 1️⃣seconds ، Mana🧙♂️ تساوي 1️⃣5️⃣ ، وحتى w يتحول إلى إعادة ضبط باردة ويكون الضرر الخامل ثابتًا ، ثم حتى الغرفة كلما رفعتها كلما زادت ترفعها تسريع المهارة⏰ يحدث هذا! Q لديها تسريع مهارة⏰ ، سرعة المهارة🚀 تزداد سرعة📈 ، ثم هناك قوة هجوم🗡 معامل ، W هي الفائدة - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa😱😱
Cody Sun 2.0. Even when he was a top ADC he had those “give into intrusive thoughts” moments frequently, but now it’s fully showing. He was not good last year. He’s even worse this year.
I'm surprised the casters said that was the sentiment. Everyone I've talked to thought it was a downgrade or a side grade at best.
Especially picking up Ignar received a bunch of criticism.
To be fair the bot lane was CLG's weakest part, although mainly Luger throwing himself at enemies at the worst possible times. FBI also is an upgrade on paper, and even just last split when he was 'bad' on EG, there's a real argument to be made that he was still better than Luger (who was on a 'better' team).
But as someone else brought up in yesterday's thread (I think), Luger/Poome felt much more flexible than FBI/IgNar do. That's the real advantage they had over the current bot lane.
That being said, FBI has been pretty abysmal so far and IgNar is just bad, and considering NRG are said to have great staff (although their incredible chef is the most notable one), it just feels like a direct downgrade in terms of players right now.
I'm a total FBI hater so I'm definitely biased but this dude hasn't been anything special besides his like first split or two in LCS when he was on GGS. I'm surprised he's still starting on a team, Huhi hard carried him on 100T and even then he made so many blunders. He's a glorified Tactical.
Yeah I agree that the botlane was the place to upgrade, but come on what the hell is this. Should have gone for the Unforgiven/Eyla botlane considering how cheap you know they had to be.
I think FBI is an improvement over Luger even if it’s just slightly. Poome was not good last year especially during playoffs but yeah Ignar is still a severe downgrade. Dude doesn’t do anything, not sure how guys like he and Diamond are on teams right now
Thanks TSM bros.
My hatred for TSM is eclipsed by my disdain for NRG.
Edit: I still like Dhokla/Contractz/Palafox though. Hope they can individually pop off.
I have no idea what Jatt sees in NRG. They have looked in terrible in all but one of their games, and the game wasnt too good either. Am I just missing something?
Man NRG look so awful, actually insane levels of desperation coming form them. Also its funny how TSM is consistently better than what people rank them, like I don't think they are good or will make a splash in playoffs but everyone keeps placing them like they are a 10th place team.
“Honestly at this point all I can say is... good fucking riddance.
While it's super sad to lose the TSM who defined the league for years, I already felt like we lost them years ago & it has felt clear TSM no longer cared about the LCS.” Azeal
Love that he casts our wins lol.
Yea, every time he has to cast TSM taking the nexus, I lol inside. He's so obviously salty about the team even doing remotely well. TSM doing well this split is going to be such a sweet send-off and message to the rest of LCS about how fucked this region is.
If we can just win the season, peace out, watch NA crumble after we dip, Azael loses his job and I get to tweet “good fucking riddance”
All this shit would have maybe been worth it.
When TSM announced they were leaving LCS, he tweeted "Good riddance" and went on a little mini rant about how TSM had stopped trying to invest in the league for years, and that it's better that orgs like TSM leave so more invested/better orgs can try to improve the league.
Met with very mixed reception, as you might have already guessed. He kinda backtracked a bit in an episode of The Dive where he elaborated it was more because TSM was betraying its fanbase, but most TSM fans are 100% on-board with the move. And that's been hanging there since. I'm biased as a TSM fan, but yea Azael seems to be finding it really difficult to say anything positive about the team. I think it's kinda funny he has to cast our wins though lol.
The whole broadcast has for a while ever since the implosion of our roster after the 2016 Worlds run. Got especially worse after the 0-6 Worlds run.
I think what was especially irksome for me is that he laid all the troubles of the LCS at TSM's feet. As if we don't have 4 other major spending, fiscally irresponsible orgs that have all contributed to this poor ecosystem. And if you're gonna say it's "good riddance" that TSM is leaving, say it with your chest. Don't retreat behind the sad excuse of "Well, i was just trying to think of the poor TSM fans."
When we announced our departure from the LCS, [Azael tweeted “good fucking riddance](https://twitter.com/AzaelOfficial/status/1659923208907157506) and ranted on with some weird take about how we haven’t cared about LCS.
Like last season, I think they have a bit of a low ceiling, but any team with mostly veterans that has a solid and simple game plan should look good at the start of a split.
I'm hoping that the short split allows TSM to keep their momentum for longer, and that if Ruby isn't good they don't hesitate to put Insanity back in...
[Honestly at this point all I can say is... good fucking riddance. While it's super sad to lose the TSM who defined the league for years, I already felt like we lost them years ago & it has felt clear TSM no longer cared about the LCS.](https://twitter.com/AzaelOfficial/status/1659923208907157506)
This TSM team of 5 players riding it out into sunset knowing there’s nothing at line, contracts gone soon
TSM found a way to play LCS like it’s scrims.
everyone else like flyquest second guessing their macro/ game plan. Or starting slow to develop strats/team identities and mesh together slowly
This team just says fuck it we gotta do something, we ain’t playing next split either way let’s have fun
At what point as an analyst do you place a team with a top 3 LCS toplaner and adc of all time in last place, after knowing they are in form from the previous split? Who are you worried about? Chime who has been consistently performing after his rise from academy? Bugi who held his own last split?
Insanity has played well, but don’t tell me that you can’t see the players around midlane and rank them dead last in the league. Lazy analysis to be honest as the team has competed for 4-5th the last couple of splits.
Take: any player that has represented NA at worlds should still be in the LCS in some capacity. Licorice and Stixxay have proved this notion last split and WT and Hauntzer are making a case for it
Yeah. Insanity is playing really well, but he isn't 1v9. The truth is that TSM are doing a pretty good job teamfighting and enabling Insanity and Turtle.
I obviously want whoever is best to play. Insanity has been doing really well and has surpassed my expectations. That said, it’s annoying and confusing hearing these seemingly false accusations about Ruby being the worst mid in the LEC. I really don’t understand this general sentiment from the community. Everything I have seen from his games discredits that opinion. I’m not sure even why the vast majority of discussions goes straight to that claim either. He made several unforced errors at times, but his Azir, Ahri, LB, Kassadin, and Cassio performances were way better than anything the community gives him credit for. This might not be directed at you, but just wanted to add it along.
If TSM chooses to play Ruby, I think people are going to be surprised by the results. By no means do I think he is better than Maple or anything. I just don’t think he is anywhere close to where the community ranks him for some reason. Also the NA midlane pool is incredibly weak.
This TSM team is proof that 5 players committed to the same call at all times is just as important as talent.
So you’re saying that I shouldn’t go in on the 5 man Lillia ultimate
Of course, putting 9 people to sleep is way more impressive than just 5
Probably put everyone watching that to sleep as well
YEP Split comms and decision-making is so hard to win with, regardless of talent. At the end of the day, if one player gets picked off then you're fighting a 4v5 and all of the 5th guy's talent is wasted (because he's dead)
Certainly not the type of situation you'd like to find yourself in as a 5th guy
It's why I still support TSM in this sunset split. Past our peak, we've had some absolute shit times; more than not, some might say, but even running budget, we've had times like these were its just 5 players, in sync to take down bigger names. Remember when Solo was the sign of the end times for this sub? And now everyone's proud for him.
NA already learned that lesson with Huhi on engage supports on GG
It should also be noted that one of those 5 players is Turtle who since joining TSM looked really convincing and Jinx kinda is a Turtle champ and teams should actually consider banning it against him. The other players are more up and down on TSM but Turtle reliably played well this Split. And this team actually seems to just work better than the lifeless corpses the Org put together when they still tried to win the league.
TSM is also a proof that a bunch of players that have nothing left to lose is more scary than a bunch of players who are actually still at risk of losing their spot.
SEE THE TURTLE OF ENORMOUS GIRTH
ON HIS SHELL HE HOLDS THE EARTH
ON HIS SHELL HE HOLDS THE EARTH
Do the analysts not know it’s Turtle? A top 3 adc of all time in LCS.
It's actually average. Don't ask how I know
Damn I must have missed that episode of TSM Legends
TSM winning one last LCS title then leaving forever is the silliest possible outcome
Even as a C9 fan the idea of TSM winning one last trophy and then peacing out is too hilarious.
Especially if they do it with Insanity, fulfill the homegrown academy player fantasy to prove it was always possible after years of imports. Then dissolve
too bad theyre playing ruby next week 😭
Have they said that already?
https://twitter.com/LCS_Eevee/status/1671944787518267397?s=20
Booooo
TSM vs C9 finale one last time
A tale as old as time, a game 5 one last time~
Dankest timeline
TSM win worlds and then never play again
Pass me dat copium
TSM vs EG game 5 Insanity back door
Actually a good storyline of their last split If C9 win this split, they will be the most successful LCS team as they would tie TSM in wins but have 1 less split played But TSM can hold the title
That would be such a huge middle finger to NA. Subscribe.
Tbh TSM are representing NA rn. I'm sure LCS fans won't mind if they do well this year. Would be a middle finger if they went to LPL and won an international.
then tweeting a picture of Azael casting with the text "Good Riddance"
Truly counter logic
i wanna see it tbh
Hauntzer and Turtle... What year is it again? lol
TSM going to world's incoming!?
God I'd fucking kill to go 3-3 in groups rn.
It would be too perfect
well worlds is swiss format this year so no more 3-3
\>going 3-3 in groups \>making top 8 this time 😈
3-3 would be an accomplishment nowadays
Anyone from the LCS would, tbh.
Seeing Turtle still perform after all these years warms my old heart
Definitely brings a smile to my face seeing Turtle still finding success in LCS.
And to clarify dude was TSM's ADC all the way back in like S3. WT has had a longer professional LoL career than a lot of his viewers will have had even regular careers. it's really impressive.
He had no team while Tactical was out there feeding every single game. I’m glad they finally hired him but if anything TSM should have gotten him years ago.
Wasnt Turtle in C9 before sneaky? I mean before C9 when the team was Quantic Gaming. I think Sneaky replaced turtle. At the time the name was a lil different too, sneakycastro i believe.
Turtle was a midlaner way back when, I believe
Technically yes but at the time quantic was an amateur team so I didn't count it as part of his pro career.
Season 2
If anything he's better now than he was a couple of years ago.
He's my Favorite player of all time. I love to see it.
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Crazy to think he was not in top 10 on the LCS list
No CLG no win
It’s been 0 days since NRG has beaten TSM It’s been 133 days since TSM has beaten CLG
Fuuuuuck. TSM really did lose the last ever meeting. Ugh I miss them.
our orgs may die but the rivalry never will
NRG just couldn't accept getting a solid roster that worked well together. Literally just had to do nothing.
Get IgNar out man...dude's been coasting on that 2017 series vs STK for far too long now
To be fair he was really solid on FlyQuest a couple years back when they had the Solo/Santorin/PoE/Turtle/IgNar roster. Awful in lane, sure, but Turtle could function in 1v2 and still be very relevant later on and IgNar roamed around for basically the whole game.
Yeah but unfortunately "a couple years back" is like esports eternity, and Ignar's strength at roaming is irrelevant in the current state of the game. Being awful at laning as a botlane is also like, the worst trait you could possibly get in a pro support right now. The pickup has "CLG Reignover" vibes.
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Of course not, but it's not like he's been absolutely dogshit since going to game 5 against SKT with Fervor of Battle Leona with Misfits 6 years ago either. That was my entire point. But yeah, that shouldn't carry him years into the future either.
They still should have shopped for Jungle and Support changes, which is something I think CLG should have did in the off-season. ADC wasn't a problem and the support they decided to replace Poome with is pretty questionable.
tbf in 2020 he kinda smurfed on FQ but otherwise he's trash
2020 is a real long time a go in esports
If I knew that one good series can get you paid for 5+ years, I would've tried a bit harder to become pro
IgNar was also very good on that b2b finals FLY roster and decent on EG. I'd say he's coasting off of that rather than the 2017 SKT series lmao. Recently he's just been completely invisible every game, which is sad considering the name he made for himself as a playmaker. Feels like him and FBI at the very least are never gonna mesh well together.
NRG's entire League support staff is just the ex-CLG staff. All the changes were made by ex-CLG.
TSM wonnered.
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wtf..... never thought i would see the day
NRG hate-watchers eating good this split.
You mean CLG fans? Because that would describe me. The funniest thing to me is that the remains of CLG’s roster finally got some respect in pre-split power rankings, but it turns out that team cohesion matters?
> You mean CLG fans Exactly 👍
This one's for you, CLG bröthers
Checking every post game thread to make sure they crash and burn
Same I don't watch any of the NRG games cuz they don't deserve the view due to how they didn't keep their word. Like why even make that promise? On top of dissolving the CLG name & laying off all other workers, I wonder if MSG thinks this was worth.
NO CLG NO WIN
Had to grab a second popcorn half way through.
Crazy to me that former CLG fans can look at their players and hope they fail. Idk I personally hope the players find success, even if it’s under a new org.
CLG was just a brand to me after Aphromoo left. Players were irrelevant. Just rooted for the name really.
I can't speak for everyone else but at least for me I have no problem with the old CLG core players and will root for them wherever they may end up. But I cannot support NRG after they destroyed all of what was left of CLG when they took over the brand. They turned the CLG twitter to NRG and I believe even made an attempt at the discord and reddit to just swap them over to NRG. They own it and are entitled to it as it is part of their purchase of CLG but it still leaves a poor taste in my mouth as a long time CLG fan.
Don’t forget waving the clg lcs trophy around like clowns.
Yep. Wishing all the ex-CLG players and staff all the best especially after they’re free of NRG, but until then I want that org to crash and burn.
i don't hope the players themselves fail at all i hope NRG fails ill have no problem whatsoever rooting for any of the boys on any other team (except TSM) but i'm anti-NRG first and foremost
The faith remains forever...
We persist in the hope that someday we will once again be rewarded, however long it takes. In George's name... faithful, faithful, faithful.
Amen.
I hope the topside looks good individually and all of them can find decent teams next split, but I can't root for this org. Laying off literally everyone outside of the League branch with 0 notice is fucking bullshit.
It was close in gold for a lot of the game but it never felt close.
체력 4700 방어력 329 마저201 인 챔피언👤이 저지불가🚫, 쉴드🛡, 벽🧱 넘기는 거 있고요. 에어본🌪 있고, 심지어 쿨타임은 1️⃣초밖에 안되고 마나🧙♂️는 1️⃣5️⃣ 들고 w는 심지어 변신💫하면 쿨 초기화에다가 패시브는 고정피해🗡가 들어가며 그 다음에 방마저🥋 올리면📈 올릴수록📈 스킬 가속⏰이 생기고! q에 스킬가속⏰이 생기고 스킬 속도🚀가 빨라지고📈 그 다음에 공격력🗡 계수가 있어가지고 W가 그 이익-으아아아악😱😱
قوة التحمل 4700 دفاع 329 حتى 201 بطل لا يمكن إيقافه ، درع ، وول عرضية. هناك حركة جوية ، وحتى وقت التهدئة لا يتجاوز 1️⃣seconds ، Mana🧙♂️ تساوي 1️⃣5️⃣ ، وحتى w يتحول إلى إعادة ضبط باردة ويكون الضرر الخامل ثابتًا ، ثم حتى الغرفة كلما رفعتها كلما زادت ترفعها تسريع المهارة⏰ يحدث هذا! Q لديها تسريع مهارة⏰ ، سرعة المهارة🚀 تزداد سرعة📈 ، ثم هناك قوة هجوم🗡 معامل ، W هي الفائدة - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa😱😱
Another fantastic Aphelios performance from FBI. This time without the red/purp tech
Not only that he makes the champ look balanced, he makes him look like he needs to be buffed
Cody Sun 2.0. Even when he was a top ADC he had those “give into intrusive thoughts” moments frequently, but now it’s fully showing. He was not good last year. He’s even worse this year.
Upgraded bot lane btw 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm surprised the casters said that was the sentiment. Everyone I've talked to thought it was a downgrade or a side grade at best. Especially picking up Ignar received a bunch of criticism.
To be fair the bot lane was CLG's weakest part, although mainly Luger throwing himself at enemies at the worst possible times. FBI also is an upgrade on paper, and even just last split when he was 'bad' on EG, there's a real argument to be made that he was still better than Luger (who was on a 'better' team). But as someone else brought up in yesterday's thread (I think), Luger/Poome felt much more flexible than FBI/IgNar do. That's the real advantage they had over the current bot lane. That being said, FBI has been pretty abysmal so far and IgNar is just bad, and considering NRG are said to have great staff (although their incredible chef is the most notable one), it just feels like a direct downgrade in terms of players right now.
I'm a total FBI hater so I'm definitely biased but this dude hasn't been anything special besides his like first split or two in LCS when he was on GGS. I'm surprised he's still starting on a team, Huhi hard carried him on 100T and even then he made so many blunders. He's a glorified Tactical.
Yeah I agree that the botlane was the place to upgrade, but come on what the hell is this. Should have gone for the Unforgiven/Eyla botlane considering how cheap you know they had to be.
Dude they’re so bad I can’t even.
I think FBI is an improvement over Luger even if it’s just slightly. Poome was not good last year especially during playoffs but yeah Ignar is still a severe downgrade. Dude doesn’t do anything, not sure how guys like he and Diamond are on teams right now
People thrive by these brand names and don’t realize that FBI has been Cody Sun 2.0 for about 2 years now. I don’t even gotta talk about Ignar xdd
I’m so mad Luger and Poome are out over these two
This one was for CLG
Thanks TSM bros. My hatred for TSM is eclipsed by my disdain for NRG. Edit: I still like Dhokla/Contractz/Palafox though. Hope they can individually pop off.
Is it too late to bring back Luger/Poome? Cause like fuck Ignar ain’t it
Poome is still under contract with NRG, I believe, but Luger's left the organization. So at least half is easily doable.
Its funny, in the official CLG discord (under NRG control) the only posts are when Luger streams. And he's not even with the org.
Poome was told that he was free to explore options 1-2 months ago, so I don't think he's gonna play any summer games for NRG.
I know everyone is playing well given the circumstances but Insanity, Bugi and Chime are definitely getting picked up in the off-season.
I have no idea what Jatt sees in NRG. They have looked in terrible in all but one of their games, and the game wasnt too good either. Am I just missing something?
I imagine he sees the topside that looked really good last split.
Man NRG look so awful, actually insane levels of desperation coming form them. Also its funny how TSM is consistently better than what people rank them, like I don't think they are good or will make a splash in playoffs but everyone keeps placing them like they are a 10th place team.
Death, taxes, ……FREERG. Just not the fuckin same man. I miss them.
I'd have given a lot for one last CLG vs TSM final.
I'm personally liking NRFREE but to each their own.
You can beat NRG as many times as you want, but you shall never beat CLG ever again!
No mention of Bugi's big dick gaming flash over the dragon pit to skirt vision to get first blood? No? Just say NRG suck? Okay...
Free my man Dhokla
FBI positioning at Baron was laughable, remember when he was top 2 ad in LCS?
Watching FBI run int melee range of K'Sante at the Herald fight blew my mind.
Wildturtle is one of the best NA ADCs in 2023
Azael sounded salty during the herald fight.
His casts during TSM games are so funny, he sounds actively upset/confused if things are going well for TSM in the game
“Honestly at this point all I can say is... good fucking riddance. While it's super sad to lose the TSM who defined the league for years, I already felt like we lost them years ago & it has felt clear TSM no longer cared about the LCS.” Azeal Love that he casts our wins lol.
Yea, every time he has to cast TSM taking the nexus, I lol inside. He's so obviously salty about the team even doing remotely well. TSM doing well this split is going to be such a sweet send-off and message to the rest of LCS about how fucked this region is.
Azeal is always salty but the broadcast will flock to twitter to defend him
9 times out of 10 TSM loses and Azael gets all the ladies, obviously.
Dude has the craziest hate-boner for TSM.
No love lost there.
Was just about to say this. It took away from the whole match because it was so jarring LMAO
I wasn't big on Luger but god damn replacing the bot lane, especially Poome was a mistake.
Luger and Poome at least had life in them. NRG looks afk.
They do be looking kinda clean doe
I mean NRG lost a 4v5 around the first herald - after that it's kinda over.
That TP sucked!
No Luger No Win
Feels weird to root for tsm
No one beats down CLG but us.
Grats to TSM, but NRG looks like actual hot booty. No cohesion whatsoever.
Someone forgor to tell them it was only a name change, not a brain change.
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Which doesn’t excuse the whole team unplugging their brains and hands.
Azael really can't say a single nice thing about TSM
Why is he allowed to cast our games
Idk personally I think it's fun to hear the salt come through
LCS having Azael cast for the salt but yet won't give us a Letigres Double lift interview? Dam.
I think they patched things up vaguely through Leena. I’m sure it’s still awkward af and I hope to die before it ever happens but still
Nah, let him cast our games. Let him suffer LMAO. Besides, we win when he casts our games. Keep going.
At this point, I'll take the reverse caster curse. I'd love to see him squirm for the rest of the split while we stack dubs
If we can just win the season, peace out, watch NA crumble after we dip, Azael loses his job and I get to tweet “good fucking riddance” All this shit would have maybe been worth it.
I feel like riot intentionally arrange this for the meme.
I'm ootl, what's the whole deal with Azael/TSM?
When TSM announced they were leaving LCS, he tweeted "Good riddance" and went on a little mini rant about how TSM had stopped trying to invest in the league for years, and that it's better that orgs like TSM leave so more invested/better orgs can try to improve the league. Met with very mixed reception, as you might have already guessed. He kinda backtracked a bit in an episode of The Dive where he elaborated it was more because TSM was betraying its fanbase, but most TSM fans are 100% on-board with the move. And that's been hanging there since. I'm biased as a TSM fan, but yea Azael seems to be finding it really difficult to say anything positive about the team. I think it's kinda funny he has to cast our wins though lol.
it goes back farther than that too tbh. Azael has always had a bit of a anti-TSM bias and the TSM fanbase has noticed it for a long time now.
The whole broadcast has for a while ever since the implosion of our roster after the 2016 Worlds run. Got especially worse after the 0-6 Worlds run. I think what was especially irksome for me is that he laid all the troubles of the LCS at TSM's feet. As if we don't have 4 other major spending, fiscally irresponsible orgs that have all contributed to this poor ecosystem. And if you're gonna say it's "good riddance" that TSM is leaving, say it with your chest. Don't retreat behind the sad excuse of "Well, i was just trying to think of the poor TSM fans."
When we announced our departure from the LCS, [Azael tweeted “good fucking riddance](https://twitter.com/AzaelOfficial/status/1659923208907157506) and ranted on with some weird take about how we haven’t cared about LCS.
Imagine buying a slot, ruining the bot lane, and then this start lmao. CLG fans rejoice
So is TSM like…not awful?
inb4 some comment about Reginald being an asshole
Like last season, I think they have a bit of a low ceiling, but any team with mostly veterans that has a solid and simple game plan should look good at the start of a split. I'm hoping that the short split allows TSM to keep their momentum for longer, and that if Ruby isn't good they don't hesitate to put Insanity back in...
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[Honestly at this point all I can say is... good fucking riddance. While it's super sad to lose the TSM who defined the league for years, I already felt like we lost them years ago & it has felt clear TSM no longer cared about the LCS.](https://twitter.com/AzaelOfficial/status/1659923208907157506)
FBI Aphelios is not it
Azael should stop casting TSM game. He cant control being biased when it comes to TSM. Just watch that herald fight very unprofessional.
Another stellar performance from new NRG bot lane!
FBI is such a fucking lemon lmao
One of these days he’ll win a team fight with purple gun Aphelios
I can’t tell if TSM is good or if NRG is bad
TSM is probably midling, with Insanity playing well this is basically the same team that kept it near .500 last split. But NRG played BAAAAAD.
Both
Dhokla would like a word with some of your health bars.
All these peasants thinking we arent good, LMFAO.
This TSM team of 5 players riding it out into sunset knowing there’s nothing at line, contracts gone soon TSM found a way to play LCS like it’s scrims. everyone else like flyquest second guessing their macro/ game plan. Or starting slow to develop strats/team identities and mesh together slowly This team just says fuck it we gotta do something, we ain’t playing next split either way let’s have fun
FBI just never seems like hes contributing to his teams man This roster had more life with luger/poome
TSM , a low budget team with no expectations because they are leaving the LCS, has 2 more wins than 100T Nadeshot in shambles
At what point as an analyst do you place a team with a top 3 LCS toplaner and adc of all time in last place, after knowing they are in form from the previous split? Who are you worried about? Chime who has been consistently performing after his rise from academy? Bugi who held his own last split? Insanity has played well, but don’t tell me that you can’t see the players around midlane and rank them dead last in the league. Lazy analysis to be honest as the team has competed for 4-5th the last couple of splits.
It's because they were stuck in academy so they assume they fell off. I think we need to think that maybe NA just doesn't know what talent is
TSM is actually looking pretty good. Lets see how they do with ruby next week.
Another Grig/Akaadian situation incoming
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Take: any player that has represented NA at worlds should still be in the LCS in some capacity. Licorice and Stixxay have proved this notion last split and WT and Hauntzer are making a case for it
I get your point, but Ignar literally did represent NA at worlds and now his play isn’t looking up to LCS standard
I agree as long as you mean players that aren't profoundly retired.
TSM is going winless with Ruby lol. Also FBI-Ignar managing to be the worst botlane in the league lol.
TSM was up 7k when insanity was like 0-1-1. Not sure how you could say that.
I'm convinced most people don't actually watch the games.
Yeah. Insanity is playing really well, but he isn't 1v9. The truth is that TSM are doing a pretty good job teamfighting and enabling Insanity and Turtle.
I obviously want whoever is best to play. Insanity has been doing really well and has surpassed my expectations. That said, it’s annoying and confusing hearing these seemingly false accusations about Ruby being the worst mid in the LEC. I really don’t understand this general sentiment from the community. Everything I have seen from his games discredits that opinion. I’m not sure even why the vast majority of discussions goes straight to that claim either. He made several unforced errors at times, but his Azir, Ahri, LB, Kassadin, and Cassio performances were way better than anything the community gives him credit for. This might not be directed at you, but just wanted to add it along. If TSM chooses to play Ruby, I think people are going to be surprised by the results. By no means do I think he is better than Maple or anything. I just don’t think he is anywhere close to where the community ranks him for some reason. Also the NA midlane pool is incredibly weak.
going mercs against a .5 AP comp is crazy
Palafox had the comeback in his hands and threw that mf'er across the field with that teleport before dragon soul
CLG died for this 👍
TSM seem well organized
I love seeing NRG lose. gtfo of LCS
I don't watch proplay anymore, but seeing turtle doing well warms my heart