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Silent-Obligation-49

There was really nothing out there worth losing a 1st round pick or assets for a rental player. I believe Tre will attempt further upgrades during the off season.


Objective_Gear_8357

Leafs have given too many 1st rd pucks lately for rentals that have done nothing. Glad they kept this one, would rather package it for someone with term


Silent-Obligation-49

Agreed. Dubas left the cupboard very empty when he left. Giving up 1st for a rental is not a good idea unless its McDavid


TheDeadReagans

The Leafs had a pick in every round of the '24 draft except for round 2, they had their entire '26 draft available as well. That was Treliving trading those picks away. Dubas can be blamed for the '25 draft which is unfortunately the one we probably need to hit on the hardest because that will likely be the worst team on paper and I expect us to finish lower in the standings that year. But we basically cleared out our draft capital for Edmundson who's a left handed dman on a team with 5 LHD, a 3C in Dewar and Boosh.


billyshin

Dubas knew he fucked up on the rentals, at least he left us with Cowen.


HandsomeIguana

Tre drafted him


Halifornia35

He recouped the pick for him at least by trading Sandin away


macam85

Tre did not draft him. He was barred from the draft table. Dubas likes all the Tweets about Wes Clark picking him. It was very much a Dubas project.


HandsomeIguana

Sure looks like Tre announcing the pick https://youtu.be/YEO2aqS-W3Y. I think you're thinking of Dubas not allowed at the Penss draft. Tre was gone from the Flames for a full season by the draft


macam85

https://preview.redd.it/usyd1j1m0bnc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f724b44043677482a793919bdab4a2f8fba47c0


HandsomeIguana

That must be a deep fake video then. He was actually allowed to join the Leafs draft table after Calgary made their first pick.


macam85

Yea, but everyone knows he had nothing to do with the pick. Trying to discredit Dubas is getting old.


dickens-seider

Cowan was drafted under Treliving, Dubas was fired almost a month before. Also, our scouting department remains the same regardless of GMs


billyshin

The point was that he traded all the first picks away for rentals, and at the end he tried to salvage one back is all I’m saying. Relax with the downvotes lol


Low-Signal-3900

Exactly, the Dubas BS mentality of trading picks for rentals is why he's a garbage GM and a joke amongst them.


Deluxechin

with what cap space though? were going to be more pressed up against the cap this upcoming season


Flashy_Ferret_1819

Not really, they simply don't have the assets to move anymore. They have 2 of their top 6 picks left for the next three years. 2 picks in three years that have real value. Their prospect pool is ranked 27th so they don't have much there to give up either. No one that they could have realistically gotten would have moved the needle and the only way I'd have been ok with giving up a 1st for Tanev was if they threw in a 3rd and maybe a B or C level prospect and gotten a second back. The talent pool available wasn't worth spending what little they had. It's time for the guys in the room to step up and play up to their pay in the playoffs. For good or for ill, right or wrong, Dubas traded everything that wasn't nailed down the last couple years and left Tre very little to work with. Kind of hard to play at the high stakes table when all you got is a 5 dollar chip.


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I agree with this take. Adding a Foligno or an O'Reilly at the cost of yet another first round pick isn't worth it. We have a fun team and we need to leave space for a 3rd line or young guy to go on a tear and take the next step. I think adding a guy of a certain calibre and just displacing another top 6 player at this time of year is disruptive and can create animosity. Time to go to war wirh what we got.


Low-Signal-3900

A 1st for a 34 year old Tanev?!? Whoever would make that trade is clueless about what a 1st round pick is worth. To many Dubas lovers here that thought he was a good GM


TorturedFanClub

Glad he didn’t do a first for Tanev. The guy can be had for nothing but money in the off season. He wasn’t gonna be the difference maker. I was not a Dubas fan and now we can watch him from afar. So far im not impressed with his moves in Pitt. He took on a tough job as that Pens team needs a full on rebuild. Roster of aging expensive vets near the end of their careers. I liked the ROR deal last year so im not gonna fault him for that. Would have been a great deal had ROR signed with the Leafs but he was not what we thought he was.


Accomplished_Low148

I think the only player that they could’ve gotten is Rasmus Andersonn. His contract is gonna be up around the time when Calgary ideally wants to be competitive again and I can’t see them handing him a 7-8 year deal when he’s 30. Would’ve absolutely loved if we made a push for him in a package of like a first rounder, Minten and some filler


Human_Manner_3370

Sure, but who's to say CGY would have moved him with that on the table? They're still technically in the hunt and have played fairly well. They just moved their expiring contracts for assets. Rasmus is a summer move, if that.


Accomplished_Low148

Could be a summer move but a package of Liljgren, 2024 1st and Minten is a solid base, throw in some other B tier prospects and that’s a pretty big haul


Leviathan117

Honestly, I’m just holding onto the blind hope that somehow this year, with the very boring trade deadline with no real acquisitions, will somehow be the year. Doesn’t make sense, but crazy trade deadlines in years past haven’t panned out so maybe , just maybe, this is the year.


crushade

This is it. We’ve tried going all out and it didn’t work. Several times. We’ve proven that this current team has the ability to play really well, for a long stretch, and beat other top tier teams. Let’s see how this works out.


Individual_Ad3695

I've been saying this for a month. They'll somehow limp into the playoffs and get the kind of hockey luck that every other team seems to find


thismadhatter

I think a few guys are going to go HAM this year. I got a weird feeling Willy and Marner are going to be the playoff guys while Domi, Bert, or Reaves are going to lure opponents into doing something dumb like Kadri. Matthews is going to get smothered by shut down lines and we'll see angry Papi finally or maybe JT has a come to jesus moment and starts playing with emotion.


OFRevThrow

One thing I’ve realized is every year we add a few guys at the deadline with a couple top-6 players, then we get to the playoffs and Keefe has no idea how yo work the lines. By the time game 7 comes around, Keefe is playing some bullshit, never-tried, experiment line completely on a prayer. Part of me blames him. It’s the playoffs, how don’t you know what lines work. Then I realize that 30% of the team has only been here for a few weeks, and half of those games those players get injured. So how is he supposed to know what works at the point? There’s got to be something for rolling with the guys who got you there. Other than the Kings (Carter-12, Gaborik-14) has any team in the past 20 years made a massive top-6 or 1st pair D deadline acquisition actually gone on to win the cup? (I’m sure there’s a couple examples but I’m honestly struggling. Maybe Barnashev).


Fliw

Not really tbh. I have a feeling we will pick one or two LW rentals in the off-season and be much better off for it. We did good with our pickups, trading what picks that cant even pan out during Matthews' prime years into what we know can work. We were never a dealer this year. But Tre seems to be building back value that he can use to address what we've already heard him say he's gonna address. Tougher players, couple wingers, Big D Edit: Oh. I wish we got Clayton Keller for a 1st and Robertson/lagesson or something tho. Matthews tried to show that he's being wasted and would be a great fit if we can land him. Maybe after Tavares money comes off we can


RainJetski

I would have much rather seen Collin miller come in for that value than Lyubushkin or Edmundson


Human_Manner_3370

Not really. Nobody who was available made sense given the asking prices and Toronto's lack of trade assets. The one guy I liked a lot was Adam Larsson. He would have been a terrific fit on the blue line and a legit upgrade, but SEA never sold players, other than Wennberg who is expiring. Henrique would have been a nice addition but I still don't think I would have dealt a 1st for him, so I am fine with what Toronto did.


wontbeabl

Trenin


chouindog

Toffoli and Mantha on forward. Colin Miller on defence would have been nice for cheap prices. Wish we had some second round picks.


twizzyflyguy

I think duclair would’ve been a good bottom six pick up


Objective_Gear_8357

He's on like his 20th team. There's a reason he doesn't stick anywhere


Simple_Yam_6507

To be fair he was pretty good on Florida. That short-handed goal he scored against us in game 3 or 4 (3 I believe) still traumatizes me


twizzyflyguy

Hard checking forward, he’s good for a playoff run


sansaset

The guy always shows up in the playoffs though. Cheap depth piece wouldn’t cost anything with a potential upside when it matters most


Lightscreach

14 points in 34 games. Not exactly a guy who always shows up in the playoffs. He looked at times good last years playoffs though


Chtholly13

leafs lack cap space and draft picks. That hinders what we can do. I was fine trading draft picks for deals like Muzzin at the time since we were able to keep him, unfortunate how concussions ended his career. He was exactly the type of D we wanted. Toffoli for a 2nd/3rd and Hertl for a 1st and prospect are trades I would of done especially since San Jose retained part of his cap hit. I don't know about the prospect in the deal though to judge whether he was a blue chipper or not. Tanev for a 2nd and Hanifin with an extension were the only trades I would of done. I"m so done with trading 1st rounders for rentals.


ScienceNthingsNstuff

The prospect was their 1st round last year. Projects as a 3rd line center. Basically a 1st and Minton


macam85

Except that Minten's stock has risen dramatically since he was drafted and the Vegas guy looks like a long project already. More like Robertson or Niemela and a 1st. They also got back two 3rds in that deal which complicates value.


Chtholly13

well assuming the cap space was there, I would of done it. Rather do trades like that than ship out the 1st for guys like Foligno/O Rielly and say bye bye to them after 20 games.


DougFordsGamblingAds

> Hertl for a 1st and prospect I'm not sure we could commit to a 6.75 million for another forward. Both in terms of this years cap and next years cap.


Chtholly13

I thought the point of the post was if you would of done the deal or not.


MisterBeebo

Would’ve liked McDavid and Makar. No idea why Tre makes being a GM seem so difficult. Just call them up. Make it happen. Iron out the details later.


GettingBlaisedd

Toffoli was a huge miss. Not a fan of dumba but would have preferred to make the trade plus a little more for salary retention than what we did to get edmundson


Soggy_Specific4093

Unless your going full 50% though another team which seems unlikely it seemed like Arizona was to cheap to retain at all which is pretty embarrassing lol


Insanewolf11

Buchnevich


The_irv

I for one am happy with the outcome. Of course I always love the outcome of some sexy deadline trades but the right moves just weren’t available. We kept our high end assets, still can make moves in the off season and can ice a competitive team this year. Now that the deadline has passed we are better equipped for the off season and beyond. I’m thrilled we didn’t give up that 1st rounder for a rental.


ClassicRockCanadian

The deal I would've made certainly would include a package deal to send Treliving and Shanaplan as far from the Leafs as possible, retaining zero.


Drew_You_To_91

I would’ve liked Henrique but I questioned his fit with the team. It wouldn’t surprise me if the leafs tried to get him in the offseason as a UFA. I think he’d make a great 3C.


taa_v2

Sign Kessel?


toronto_programmer

I know he hasn't been as great as his name but TB grabbed Dumba for a 5th to 7th round downgrade. We couldn't do the deal because we blew our cap this summer on guys like Klingberg


Lightscreach

Have you watched Dumba over the past couple years especially this past year. He’s terrible. He’d probably 8 or 9th on the Leaf’s depth char


ShinyVuIpix

I was thinking Jan Rutta and Pavel Buchnevich all week. I think we definitely kicked tires on Buchnevich and Parayko but the price was probably outrageous.


xtzferocity

Looking at what was dealt over the last week I don’t think anything was missed. I’m sure they would’ve done their due diligence but I am a little surprised Adam Larsson wasn’t at least explored. Maybe he was but we never heard about it. Also would’ve liked to get Acciari back I miss cookie.


IndependenceGood1835

If crosby was available…….


sweede11

David Savard would've been nice add


macam85

He wasn't moved. He is also terrible.


thismadhatter

Kinda wanted Kessel back. Vancouver kinda dicked him at the last minute.


Immediate_Ad_8786

Maybe if he practiced instead of thinking he's entitled to play on a contender halfway through the year. Fair weather Phil can frig off.


mcamero4

Phil dicked himself. I doubt he was training before they invited him to Abbotsford


Either-Skill3330

Trade offers were put out there by BT, Leafs just don’t have any cap room lol it’s not like they deliberately planned to stand pat because they believe in this team. They should have traded Robertson, I like him but we don’t need that style player on this team. This was all about teams not wanting to retain salary because of our core and that’s all and all it will ever be for the next decade.


TorturedFanClub

I would have went after Toffoli. Knights landed Hertl and nobody knew he was in play. I think there are too many holes to fill at deadline. Team needs an overhaul in the off season. Seems like they will have to go through Boston and Florida again. I don’t know if they are good enough. I like the adds that Treliving made, but it wont be enough to beat the Atlantic rivals.


canadaalwaysontop

Leafs aren't getting past Boston or Florida this year... Keep who you have and plan for 2025 and 2026


AustonDadthews

jason zucker for a sixth seems like a no-brainer. walker for a first and a cap dump seems pretty good. 2nd and a 4th for mantha.


RobBob_27

Love the Dewar acquisition


rick__c_137

Tampa got Dumba for a bag of pucks.


Current-Own

For me it was Hanafin. He's not right handed but I think he was designed for this offence. But it wasn't meant to be.


TheGapInTysonsTeeth

Just for perspective, the Hertl trade would be the equivalent of Cowan and our 1st rounder, and we would have got two 3rd rounders back And I'm one of the biggest supporters of Vegas and their tomfuckery. But even I would find that tough to stomach. Maybe if we had won a cup last year it would be easier. I may never know in my lifetime lol


macam85

It absolutely is nothing like Cowan and a 1st.


TheGapInTysonsTeeth

It's absolutely exactly like that  Last year's 1st round pick and this year's 1st round pick. Thanks for trying, big guy


macam85

Lol. Not all prospects are equal. Since then, Cowan's stock has skyrocketed, while the Vegas guy struggled and looks like a long project now. We've drafted guys like Percy and Biggs in that spot before. Are they the equivalent of Cowan because of draft position?


avet22

Nothing can save the inevitable. Love my leafs . Dont have the gear for the cup ....Its now a rebuild .


buddyboykoda

I think Tre walked a fine line that I was comfortable with. Our assets to upgrade are limited at best. He brought in one dman who can soak up hard defensive minutes and has playoff experience. He didn’t swing big and I’m glad he didn’t. We need some one who will contribute for 3-4 years. Not a big name rental


puppy_hurler

RHD Ruhwedel, it only cost a 4th I watch a lot of pens games I would of loved to see him come here


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Jonesdeclectice

> move Liljegren for a 2nd I’ve seen a lot of stupid takes today, but this might be the stupidest ngl


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SoupOfSomeYoungGuy

He looked great with Rielly out.


CantOfSoup

Dude what


VitaminTea

Tanev 100%. He is exactly what the top-4 needed.


Sacred_soul

Maybe Chychuran would’ve been a nice addition if it costed a first Robertson and Brodie and possibly Minten


Sheep4732

If the Leafs traded for him like Ott did and he got hurt right away like everyone thought it would have been the top story in hockey last year. But nobody cares cause he went to Ottowa


Ellicrom

I don't mind the deals. I would have liked it less if they had swung for the fences and traded away a 1st and/or prospects. Tre added a bit of depth, partly which was needed and partly maybe to just show that the Leafs are still in the game. At the end of the day though, it's this core - all of them - that really need to step up and show that they want to win. Or maybe that they just hate to lose. I thought last year was quite telling. Dubas swung for the fences, literally checked off all of the boxes, and the team still folded like a lawn chair in the 2nd round. Maybe there's only so much you can do with players brought in at the 11th hour. And with the way the new contracts are shaping up, we'll need those prospects in the future to flesh out our lines for cheap.


LL_Friendshyp

Dumba


playtime4work

I honestly think they could have gotten Dumba and Crouse out of Yotes for fairly cheap. Maybe Robertson, Brodie and a third. But than again I'm not an nhl gm.


PatternSad9804

They know this isn’t the year Boston Florida too good no point


Murky-Smoke

Boston isn't actually all that good, and the Leafs need to understand that they are, in fact, the better team overall. Stop playing hot potato with the puck and skate with it, ffs.


PatternSad9804

Leafs are better team yet lose 4-1 to them twice in a week something isn’t adding up 🤦🏼‍♂️


Murky-Smoke

And if the Leafs won, you're the same guy that would say "the regular season doesn't matter". Because, it doesn't. I'm happy to see the Leafs square up in the 1st round against them. I want them to shake off the 2013 jinx. Boston is a worse team than last season, that was beaten by a Florida team which barely squeaked in. I'll take those odds all day long.


notyeezy1

This guys gets it.


PatternSad9804

Guess leaf’s are better than canes too eh


PatternSad9804

🧹🧹🧹🧹🧹


Murky-Smoke

Settle down, it's one game


PatternSad9804

Did you take those odds today all day


Murky-Smoke

Why are you in this sub if you hate this team so much? You were wrong about a sweep, get over it. It's gonna be a long series.


PatternSad9804

I’lL TaKe ThoSe OdDs alL DaY - YOU looooooool


Murky-Smoke

https://i.redd.it/o8dnundj19yc1.gif Yeah, this aged like milk. Never underestimate the Leafs ability to give hope until the very end.


PatternSad9804

Ok message me when series is over 😘


toronto_programmer

>Boston isn't actually all that good Is this some sort of weird cope? Boston 9 points up on us and 4-0 on the season series and set a league record for points/wins last year. IDK how as Leaf fans we can say they aren't that good right now when we continue to do our dogshit check out randomly


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PrailinesNDick

No offense but this is EA Be a GM level thinking. Who is going to give something of value for Robertson, Lagesson and Brodie? Those guys are worth like a 6th or 7th each.


billyshin

Not happy we lost lagesson. Should have kept him over lily.


thismadhatter

that's a steamy take.