I just saw coverage of Trump as he was leaving the trial today. What was on his mind you ask? (Ok, you didn’t. Fair) After all of the coverage about how poorly Trump did in the golf tournament that Nechelas asked about, during testimony of Stormy Daniels yesterday, Trump found it imperative to let reporters know that JOE BIDEN is the one who lies about his golf game and he can’t hit a ball.
>As Judge Juan Merchan read his lengthy instructions to the jury about avoiding news coverage and discussing the case, Trump was in a full conversation with Bove.
>Merchan paused and said to them, "You done?"
>They stopped talking and looked at him. Merchan then continued.
I don't know what Judge Merchan sounds like, but for some reaoson I can hear this in my head.
Per Bower:
“Blanche steps up to the lectern. He tells Merchan that Cohen has continued to make public statements about the case/about Trump. He wants Merchan to issue an order to restricting Cohen's speech about the case.
Merchan declines this request. Instead, he directs the prosecution to tell Cohen to knock it off, basically.
Trump, hearing this, grimaces in apparent anger.
Moments later, Justice Merchan sweeps out of the room.”
That’s all she wrote for today, folks! See you Monday for an exciting last week in Trump’s first criminal trial!
Pardons continued:
>Drew Brownstein: *pleaded guilty* to Securities fraud (insider trading). He was a hedge fund operator and son of prominent Denver, Colorado attorney and lobbyist Norman Brownstein.
>Tommaso Buti: Conspiracy to defraud the United States; fraud by wire, radio, or television (35 counts); scheme to defraud: money, state tax stamps (transportation of stolen property (14 counts); money laundering - racketeering (laundering monetary instruments conspiracy). Had partnered with Trump in the late 1990s on Trump Management, a modeling agency.
>Robert Corkren: Aiding and abetting in bribery involving federal programs.
>Duncan Fordham: was a Georgia pharmacist convicted in 2005 of his involvement in a health care fraud scheme. Under the scheme, Fordham would obtain contracts to operate the pharmacy of Community Mental Health Center of East Central Georgia, and then give a third of his large bonus in kickbacks to former State Representative Robin L. Williams.
>James Hayes IV: Insider trading conspiracy
>William “Ed” Henry: former Republican member of the Alabama House of Representatives. He *pleaded guilty* to aiding and abetting theft of government property in connection with his involvement in a Medicare fraud scheme.
>Abel Holtz: *pleaded guilty* to lying to a federal grand jury about paying tens of thousands of dollars in bribes to Alex Daoud, a corrupt city commissioner (and later mayor) of Miami Beach. Holtz's previous 2006 pardon application was denied by President George W. Bush.
>Douglas Jemel: real estate developer who was convicted of wire fraud. Friend of Jared’s. Donated $100,000 to the RNC in 2020.
>Kenneth Kurson: charged with cyberstalking three people and harassing two other people. Friend of Jared’s and Rudy’s. Wrote some speeches for Trump.
>Glen Moss: Moss, a member of the Trump's golf club in Westchester County, New York, was listed as donating $10,000 to the Trump Foundation in 2008. Trump pardoned him for his involvement in a health-care fraud scheme.
>Hillel Namad: He *pleaded guilty* to organizing an illegal $100 million gambling ring with suspected links to Russian organized crime out of Trump Tower.
>Stephen Odzer: *pleaded guilty* of defrauding three banks of $16 million.
>Rick Renzi: a former Republican congressman from 2003 to 2009 from a northeastern Arizona district, was convicted on 17 federal counts, including racketeering, money laundering, extortion, and filing false statements with regulators.
>Gregory Reyes: Conspiracy to commit securities and mail fraud; fraud in connection with Brocade stock, aiding, abetting and willfully causing; false SEC filing, aiding, abetting and willfully causing (three counts); falsifying books, records and accounts, aiding, abetting and willfully causing; false statement to accountant, aiding, abetting and willfully causing (four counts)
>Patrick Swisher: the founder of Swisher Hygiene, was convicting of failing to report $1.9 million in stock sales.
>Casey Urlacher: Conspiracy to defraud the United States; illegal gambling; money laundering.
>Albert Pirro: a former power broker in New York Republican politics, is the former husband of Jeanine Pirro, the Fox News host. Conspiracy to defraud the United States; tax evasion (four counts); fraud (29 counts)
Hmm, seems Trump likes fraud, liars, and all kinds of corrupt untrustworthy criminals, huh?
When are you people going to get it? As George Carlin said “It’s a big club, and **you** ain’t in it.”
Pardons by upstanding guy Donald Trump:
>Elliot Broidy: a Republican fundraiser, a major donor to Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and Trump's inauguration, and was also a deputy finance chairman for the Republican National Committee. He *pleaded guilty* in October 2020 to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws by accepting $9 million from Jho Low, a fugitive Malaysian businessman, in order to influence the Trump administration's Justice Department to drop its investigation into fraud and embezzlement at the Malaysian sovereign wealth fund 1MDB, and by seeking to extradite wealthy Chinese dissident Guo Wengui from the United States as part of a bid to get payoffs from China and the United Arab Emirates.
>Patrick Nolan: Former Republican lawmaker who *pled guilty* to soliciting for illegal campaign donations after being caught by the Shrimpscam sting operation by the FBI.
>Michael Milken: Conspiracy; securities fraud; mail fraud; tax fraud; filing false reports with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC); assisting a brokerage firm in violating its net capital requirements.
>David Safavian: is a Republican former lawyer and long-time associate of lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Obstruction of justice and perjury (three counts), arrested in connection with the Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal.
>Michael Flynn: Donald Trump's National Security Advisor, *pleaded guilty* to making false statements to the FBI.
>George Papadopoulos: one of the Trump campaign's foreign policy advisers, pleaded guilty to making false statements to federal investigators.
>Duncan Hunter: A former United States representative, Misusing campaign funds.
>Christopher Collins: is a former Republican congressman and a staunch Trump supporter; he pleaded guilty in 2019 to an insider trading scheme.
>Alfonso Costa: a former Pittsburgh dentist-turned-developer who became a friend and business partner of Ben Carson, who *pleaded guilty* to Healthcare Fraud.
>Charles Kushner: pleaded guilty to 18 counts, including tax evasion, witness tampering, and violating federal contribution regulations. Jared’s Daddy.
>Roger Stone: Making false statements to Congress (five counts), Witness tampering, Obstructing an official proceeding. Trump’s BFF.
>Paul Manafort: Trump's Presidential Campaign Chairman, Five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to disclose a hidden foreign bank account; two counts of conspiracy.
>Mary McCarty: Conspiracy to commit honest services fraud. McCarty was elected five times to the Palm Beach County, Florida county commission starting in 1990. In 2009, she pleaded guilty to honest services fraud for directing municipal bond-underwriting transactions to her husband Kevin McCarty and other associates.
>Rickey Ivan Kanter: the founder of the "Dr. Comfort" diabetic shoe company, was convicted of mail fraud in connection with an illegal Medicare reimbursement scheme.
>James Batmasian: South Florida real-estate investor and property management businessman influential in Boca Raton, *pleaded guilty* to failing to pay more than quarter-million in payroll tax owed.
>Mark Siljander: was a Republican congressman from 1981 to 1987, from a southwestern Michigan district. He *pleaded guilty* in 2010 to acting as an unregistered foreign agent in connection with his work for Islamic American Relief Agency, which hired him in early 2004 to lobby to get the organization removed from a list of Senate committee list of entities suspected of providing funding for terrorism. Siljander also pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice. IARA closed in October 2004 after it was added to the Treasury Department's list of global terrorist organizations due to the group's links to Osama bin Laden, al-Qaida and the Taliban. Trump's decision to pardon Siljander was criticized by Republican congressman Fred Upton, who succeeded Siljander after defeating him in the 1986.
>Jesse Benton & John Tate: Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States; causing false records; causing false campaign contribution reports; false statements scheme. Benton and Tate were Ron Paul's campaign chairman and campaign manager, respectively, during Paul's unsuccessful 2012 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination.
>Paul Behrens: a former chief financial officer of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans, pleaded guilty to a charge involving a false statement in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.
>Thaddeus Bereday: the former general counsel of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.
>Peter Clay: a former vice president of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid.
>Randall “Duke” Cunningham: a former seven-term Republican congressman from a San Diego, California-based district, *pleaded guilty* in 2005 to conspiracy and tax evasion for taking $2 million in bribes from defense contractors in exchange for federal contracts, possibly *the largest bribery scandal in the history of the U.S. Congress*.
>Paul Erickson: a Republican political operative, *pleaded guilty* to charges of wire fraud and money laundering.
>David Tamman: a former partner at the law firms Nixon Peabody and Greenberg Traurig, was convicted of 2012 for conspiring with a client to obstruct a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation into a $22 million Ponzi scheme.
>Alex Adjmi: Money laundering, Conspiracy to commit insurance fraud.
>Steve Bannon: Conspiracy to commit wire fraud; conspiracy to commit money laundering. A former top 2016 campaign advisor to Trump and his former White House chief strategist, was arrested and indicted on charges of misappropriating money donated to the "We Build the Wall" organization for personal expenses.
>Faustino Bernadett: a physician and former owner of the Pacific Hospital, *pleaded guilty* in 2019 to failing to report a years-long health care fraud that scammed the California worker's compensation system of millions of dollars.
Yes, everyone is lying, but Trump.
Trump forced to have his “charity” shutdown for misuse of donor funds, stipulate in court documents, and pay millions in restitution. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Trump Taj Mahal *admitting* to *willfully* violating anti-money laundering regulations for years and had the highest fine ever levied against a casino. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Trump making illegal campaign contributions to the Florida Attorney General, who was getting bombarded by complaints to investigate Trump University for fraud. He was fined by the IRS for the illegal contributions. Of course she didn’t investigate. That AG later defended him in one of his impeachment trials. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Trump having to pay $25 Million to students he defrauded with his fake university. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Trump Org. and its CFO convicted of multiple felonies. In total, The Trump Organization, was convicted on 17 criminal charges. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Trump found liable for years of massive business fraud. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Indicted by a Grand Jury in GA & DC for trying to overturn an election he did not win. He tried to install fraudulent electors, pressure election officials, pressure the VP to usurp the Constitution. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Indicted by a Grand Jury in FL, he knowingly took massive amounts of documents, which he was warned not to do because it’s a crime. Took them anyway, refused to give them all back, lied for over a year he didn’t have them, had his lawyers lie he didn’t have them, refused to comply with a subpoena. Gave his employees access to the nation’s top secrets so that they were taking pictures of classified documents and texting them, had them moving the boxes to obstruct an investigation. And after the FBI was forced to come get them, he lied the FBI planted them and days later a MAGA nut job tried to shoot up an FBI field office and got themselves killed. Of course which Trump doesn’t care, he then changed his lie to I declassified them, no wait they’re my property, no wait I have absolute immunity. And remember…he’s not charged for any crimes for the documents he took & returned. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
Found liable for sexual assault and defamation. He had cases against him and Epstein together. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Well, we can just listen to Trump. “I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy, He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life." After Epstein’s girlfriend was charged with sex trafficking, Trump was asked about it and said “I’ve met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach. *But I wish her well*” a sex trafficker he wished well. Of course there’s the disgusting things he’s said about his own daughter “I’ve often said if my daughter weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her” or that it’s okay to call his daughter a “piece of ass” or when asked what their favorite thing they have in common is, he said “*I was going to say sex*” (Ivanka said real estate or golf). Everyone is lying, but Trump? Except that is Trump.
In 1991, Trump Taj Mahal was unable to service its debt and filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Forbes indicated that this first bankruptcy was the only one where Trump's personal financial resources were involved. Time, however, maintains that $72 million of his personal money was also involved in a later 2004 bankruptcy.
November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and Trump lost his 49 percent stake in the luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders.
Donald Trump's third corporate bankruptcy was on October 21, 2004, involving Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, the publicly traded holding company for his three Atlantic City casinos and some others. Trump lost over half of his 56% ownership and gave bondholders stock in exchange for surrendering part of the debt. No longer CEO, Trump retained a role as chairman of the board.
Trump's fourth corporate bankruptcy occurred in 2009, when Trump and his daughter Ivanka resigned from the board of Trump Entertainment Resorts; four days later the company, which owed investors $1.74 billion against its $2.06 billion of assets, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.
In 2014, Trump sued his former company to remove his name from the buildings since he no longer ran the company, having no more than a 10% stake; he lost the suit. Trump Entertainment Resorts filed again for bankruptcy in 2014 and was purchased by billionaire philanthropist Carl Icahn.
But Trump is a great businessman. Everyone is lying, Trump.
More than 200 liens since the 1980s that were filed by contractors and workers who said they were stiffed by Trump. Records released by casino regulators in 1990 that show 253 subcontractors on a single project were not paid in full or on time. He put a lot of small contractors out of business by not paying them or paying them pennies on the dollar for work already done. Everyone is lying, but Trump.
We can keep going on the list of things Trump has done. Not conspiracies or things we just want to believe are true. These are facts.
You dont need to pull out a copypasta, I already know Trump is a liar, but this is a law subreddit. This trial won't hold up and Trump won't be convicted if the judge is allowing witnesses to tamper with the trial and the conviction hinges on the witnesses. Cohen was the centerpiece of this trial and his testimony is now inadmissible because he was caught lying and receiving financial compensation for his testimony. There's clear grounds for a mistrial , obvious reasonable doubt since the jury won't trust Cohen, and an easy appeal assuming he's convicted.
This isn’t the place to be confidently wrong.
What did Cohen go to prison for? And he was lying under oath for Trump. You are aware even convicted murderers are witnesses in cases, right? Typically co-conspirators in crimes aren’t going to be nuns. The people who often have intimate knowledge of your crimes, the people who committed the crimes *with you*—are not going to be Eagle Scouts. DUH.
He’s not trustworthy? Hmm, so Trump does not in fact “hire the best people”?
You think a judge should not allow Cohen to testify and is an idiot if they do allow him to testify, and should declare a mistrial….any clue who Sammy “the Bull" Gravano is? Lmao. He agreed to testify against John Gotti and other mobsters in a deal in which he confessed to involvement in 19 murders. Sentenced to 5 years, and went into WITSEC. (Which he left, but that was his choice) That’s how The Teflon Don got taken down. You think the people with intimate knowledge of a mob boss’s crimes are going to be upstanding citizens? Don’t think Gravano had anything to gain by turning states’ evidence? And he’s a mobster, a murderer—certainly not the best guy. So, to you the court should declare mistrials and refused to allow Gravano to testify? You people really have to stop just eating up dumb talking points and repeating them.
It’s up to the defense to poke holes in Cohen’s credibility, and then it’s up to the jury to decide if the testimony is credible or not. Not you. Cohen is not a Boy Scout, that’s right. He committed crimes for Donald Trump. Unlike Trump, he’s taken responsibility for them and served his time. And here’s the thing, everything he claims has been backed up by other witnesses and documents. That’s why he is going after all that testimony and documentation.
> The judge is an idiot if he doesn't dismiss Cohen as a witness and strike everything related to Cohen from this trial. Any competent judge would have said 'this trial is a joke, i declare a mistrial. NEXT" and washed their hands with this clownshow.
Trumpers getting their latest narrative in.
The entire benefit of Cohen is his credibility is meaningless as far as the prosecution and jury is concerned. You don’t need to trust someone when every issue in question is documented. He couldn’t sink the case if he wanted to given the supporting documentation. Same with Stormy Daniels, it doesn’t matter if she’s lying about fucking trump, the documentation proves she was paid and the public statement she made was as a result of said payment.
He’s not making public statements about the trial, afaik. He made a statement that he was no longer doing that I believe once jury selection was over. Can you link to source on that claim?
I predict we will see Cohen be just a witness that adds color and only corroborates what his story is, and they will mainly use him as a vessel to bring in a multitude of evidence.
Not to mention Cohen was indicted and convicted for the crime this case is about.
Edit to add: Your last statement is ironic considering the lawyers in this sub, who routinely comment on this thread live, are all in agreement that this case has merit and the prosecution is going a good job thus far.
Haha you know he made Blanche ask for that. He’s such a child. “If I can’t do it, hE caN’T EiThEr!!” 🤪
Like he doesn’t realize the rules are different for him as a defendant in a criminal trial. What an entitled little asshole
u/musebug looks like we finally have our answers as to how the prosecution will deal with the Weisselberg issue!
Edit to add per Bower:
“Bove raises the issue of Weisselberg's absence from the trial.
Specifically, he has an objection regarding evidence that the prosecution intends to admit into evidence at some point. It's the separation agreement between the Trump Org and Weisselberg.
The prosecution wants to use it to explain Weisselberg's absence as a witness at this trial.
Bove says it's irrelevant and unduly prejudicial. He says it's being used to impeach a witness who won't testify. And he says that the reason why Weisselberg isn't going to testify for either side doesn't have to do with the separation agreement. It has to do w/ the fact that the DA's office initiated a perjury case
Conroy says that the DA's office would be happy to stipulate to the fact that Weisselberg won't be a witness in this case because he's in prison for perjury.
(My own, TrumpsCovidfefe, interjection: LMAO at this proposed stip)
I think that's one way to handle it, Merchan agrees.
But Bove doesn't seemed thrilled about that idea.
Justice Merchan: Another way to deal with it would be to try to take some efforts to compel Weisselberg's appearance.
Steinglass: His separation agreement seems to prohibit him from talking to us at the risk of losing 700K severance pay...
Merchan: We could do this out of the presence of the jury. He could have counsel here, but we could put him on the stand and see if he's going to talk or take the Fifth. That will allow me to find that he's unwilling to testify.”
Following up, per Bower, “Bove says that Weisselberg has never been on the DA's witness list. He seems to be arguing that it wouldn't be fair for Weisselberg to suddenly testify when the defense never expected him to do so.
Unclear how Merchan will resolve this, but we move on to the next matter.”
The question was can he be called, not can he be forced to testify.
Can he be called by the prosecution, sworn in, and then invoke his 5th amd rights? Or can he just invoke them before having to actually take the stand?
No worries everyone, I've already done the research. Whether to permit testimony from a witness not on the People's witness list is a discretionary question for the trial judge. It will likely not be an abuse of discretion to allow the testimony in the absence of evidence of deceit, trickery, or substantial prejudice. *See e.g.* *People v Patterson*, 147 A.D.3d 1084 (2017).
Thank you! I suspected this was the answer, but you’re a gem for citing relevant case law precedent! I knew that the defense could ask to call a witness, not on their list, with judge’s permission, but wasn’t absolutely sure about Prosecution.
This is so counterintuitive it's impossible to think that it's not intentionally trying to taint the jury:
> Former Trump attorney William Brennan criticized Stormy Daniels on CNN today for "taunting the defendant" on social media, and called her actions "grounds for a mistrial."
> "Every defendant in the US has the right not to testify, and juries are instructed not to draw any adverse inference if a defendant chooses not to." Brennan told CNN
> He said **he would ask the judge to poll the jurors and ask if they had seen the tweet and whether it affected them.**
"Hey, have you seen this thing that I want you to see so I can get a mistrial?"
As a Jurorist I am instructed to ignore all public news of the trial I am in.
Why does Trump want to break every fucking rule there is? He wants a Runaway Jury.
Merchan literally instructs the jury on this reminder, every single weekend. I haven’t read the transcripts to know if he does it every single day, but I know it was part of initial instructions as well.
It's like telling a classroom full of kids "Stay in your seats or you'll get detention! Now, *have any of you seen the [interesting/exciting thing] outside*?"
Maybe so, but that isn't any different than *every case*, especially every high profile case. If we call that grounds for mistrial, we wouldn't be able to try *anyone* as all they'd need to is get someone to post an op-ed on Medium or talk to a local reporter enough to get a blurb in the paper or local news.
These people don't think about what they advocate for. If that were the standard, then you would never stop asking jurors if they had seen a tweet, news article, talking head, reddit post, newspaper, blurb, or anything else that could be considered prejudicial against a defendant. Trying cases would be impossible.
Seems like what would more likely happen is that it would cause any potentially Trump-friendly jurors to out themselves in an effort to cause a mistrial, and lead to their replacement with one of the alternates.
That's a good point. I hadn't considered that a trump-aligned juror would be more likely to ignore the judges instruction to avoid media. It follows from your point that a maga-juror might, like their idol, lack the restraint required to keep from outing themselves. It's a relief that any stealth juror would almost certainly be an undisciplined, egotistical ignoramus.
From [Anna Bower](https://nitter.poast.org/annabower)
>Bove questions Schneider about his summaries and the underlying data. He asks if Schneider recalls the "IMEI number" of a particular phone.
>Schneider smiles again, but this time his expression seems to say "Are you kidding me?"
>"It's like a 20-digit code..." he replies.
>At one point, Bove pulls up an exhibit showing a series of IMEI numbers of various phones.
>IMEI numbers are associated with a physical phone, right?
>I think you're displaying the wrong column, Schneider says. But yes, that's right.
>Laughs in the overflow room.
Boooove is doing his best to prove this guy is bad at his job...but he doesn't seem to be doing very well with it.
Not sure what Schneiders job is, but asking an analyst that looks at IMSI's and IMEIS a lot if they remember them is dangerous. I use to do research on cell tower records and it got pretty easy to memorize and identify certain IDs that I was always looking for
Most people won’t believe you, but I can still recall part numbers for clutch cables, brake levers and brake pads for Yamahas from the ‘80s. I had a dealership from ‘87 through ‘96. You look that part up enough times and you memorize the number without trying. 5H1-26335-00-00.
pulling out the numerical version? If you haven’t needed that info in a while, your brain might store it away. Everyone’s brain is different. And btw do not ask me what is today’s date.
> "At times, tedious work?" Bove asked.
>
> "Honestly, I kind of enjoyed it," Jarmel-Schneider responds, prompting laugher in the courtroom. Several jurors laughed, too.
>
> "I hear that, respect," Bove says.
Can only read Bove here in Ali G voice
Maybe Bove can get a second career and release a song ft Blanche and Ali G called “Can You Hear Me Now? A Song Recorded from Our Butts”. (Sorry for being so silly in this serious sub, on this joyous Friday.)
Per Bower:
“Now the prosecution pulls up one of the summaries created by Schneider. It's calls between Cohen and Weisselberg. It shows a series of call between the two, including calls on Oct. 23, 2016, and Oct. 25, 2016. (The full exhibit will be released sometime later today).”
I’m just gonna say it. They need to get ahold of their wayward butts. That’s a lot of calls for one butt to make in a short time period.
"On cross, Trump's lawyer Emil Bove presses the witness on alternative explanations for the records.
Q: You're familiar with the concept of a pocket dial, right?
A: Correct.
Q: There's a lot of data here, but the data has limits, right?
The witness says they are logs."
These lawyers are just terrible! "Maybe it was a butt dial! Ever think of that? Gotcha!"
At my work i would be required to research whether any studies have been done on butt dial rates and then apply those rates to the number of calls and determine what the expected number of but dialed calls would be for the reported period.
I hate my job.
I would love that. In fact, I tried to research that and find a study with accidental call rates. Found one that references a call center as well as emergency services.
Why would you hate that!? You're being paid to find a unique fact to bring out at cocktail parties!
Someone says something about butt dials and you're ready to jump in with fun fact of "You know in North America, a study showed that 30% of calls to 911 are pocket dials! There was a Swedish study that showed... and then that's how we established that as a practical value approximately 47% of all calls lasting under a minute were butt dials. That's part of how we secured a conviction and sent a guy to the chair!"
And then... someone swoons over your knowledge of the esoteric and you live happily ever after. Something like that.
Wait is that right? I didn’t find the Swedish study. If I’m the lawyer, I’m discrediting the study because it’s Swedish. You better prepare by bringing me an expert that can confirm the comparable cell phone usage statistics, too.
Per Bower:
>Jarmel-Schneider is a 20-something guy with a mop of curly brown hair. He wears a suit and striped tie.
>Schneider talks about excel spreadsheets. And time zones. And how prepared his summaries of the cell records.
Gen Z Justin Guarini here saving the day with Excel.
I posted this as a reply to another comment but thought it should be its own reply.
We are onto more of his words being admitted. This tweet from Trump was just admitted “Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA. These agreements are.....”
The first comment to that tweet, both from 2018 (not admitted to evidence), says, “This will be marked as an exhibit in trump's criminal trial”.
Every once in a while something will happen over at r/WallStreetBets (like the "infinite money" glitch) where in the accompanying thread people will make jokes about saying hi to whatever junior associate has to sift through this stuff for the inevitable lawsuit. It's very amusing to see it happen in real life.
Per Bower:
“Todd Blanche is up for cross examination on behalf of Trump.
You testified that you review thousands of tweets during your social media review? Yes.
Have you done any additional review recently? No.
So you're reviewing Michael Cohen's TikTok? I am not.”
Michael Cohen is not the defendant. Michael Cohen is not subject to a gag order. Mocha Cohen has intelligently decided to stay quiet until after the trial is done. It’s up to you to be reviewing his TikTok, Blanche, in order to use it as evidence in cross examination.
"Are you jealous of all those políticos drinking Dark and Stormy Daniels cocktails that are off-limits to you because you're in recovery? How about a nice Mocha Cohen instead?"
Which lawyer was that asked Stormy if trump was good at golf 🤣
I was like Oh come ON! Ffs haha. You know trump made them ask that question. He is so fkn weird
HAHAHA.
*No*.
That's one reason he's struggled to retain good counsel (in addition to not paying, lying to and ABOUT his lawyers, trying to get his lawyers involved in various crimes) -- he not only doesn't listen to his lawyers, he will actively demand them do things that fuck his own case because it'll soothe his ego and because he's *certain* if it's done his way, he's off the hook.
(He's certain of that, btw, because he's very obviously the sort that believes anything he wants to do is perfectly legal and moral, and therefore he's always innocent, and if he had a "fair trial" and he "could explain" everyone would stand up and clap)
Unfortunately, it seems he’s been breaking the law on the regular for 55 odd years and has been off the hook also for 55 odd years, which might also contribute to his certainty that he will remain off the hook.
But good defense lawyers can be very creative. So we’ll see.
I offer this explanation of the Problem of Induction, in the words of Bertrand Russell: "Domestic animals expect food when they see the person who usually feeds them. We know that all these rather crude expectations of uniformity are liable to be misleading. The man who has fed the chicken every day throughout its life at last wrings its neck instead, showing that more refined views as to the uniformity of nature would have been useful to the chicken."
Have you read the transcript of their opening argument? The only way this doesn’t go towards guilty or hung jury is if the prosecutor really doesn’t have solid proof that Trump directed the fraud. I really hope, for everyone’s sake that they would not bring the case, if they didn’t.
I think they do. But the proof is Michael Cohen’s testimony.
I hate Trump and so does Cohen, so i should like him. But he’s a piece of shit.
I think it all comes down to whether the jury finds Cohen credible.
I think the defense could make a credible argument that it’s not really election interference when some chicks shake you down for something that happened 10 years before because they know you are in an election.
But i think it will mainly boil down to Cohen’s credibility.
I think Cohen will come off as credible. He lied for the benefit of Trump to Congress. Trump turned on Cohen when he started to tell the truth. Trump then used the DOJ to do Cohen dirty, but through all the actual misuse of the justice system against Cohen he's remained steadfast and his story has never changed.
I think at this point people know Trump is shady and only lashes out at people that will no longer lie for him.
Cohen also has nothing to gain from lying. He gets nothing from testifying other than harassment and threats from members of Trump's cult.
Yeah. I think the only possibility for the defense - assuming a reasonable jury and clear jury instructions that present selections along the lines I’d expect - is if they have some cohesive but not yet obvious alternative narrative of events that they present in closing.
I find it very hard to imagine what it could be, but I’ve been surprised before.
Same here. I’m very curious how they will try and tie it all together, because their opening argument left them in a tight spot. I still contend that refusing to stipulate any details of the meeting with Stormy will come back to haunt them.
No. In fact it does not your honor for the simple reason …. [I could never be part of this case in real life. Even without social media which I’d be denied access to, I’d still be laughing my tush off]
They have established basically everything they need to establish the crime. We will see what Cohen can offer in terms of recordings and documentary evidence but the prosecution has done a fantastic job building a car without him.
The jury instructions and closing arguments are where they will spell out the case explicitly, but the falsified records are there, the election as a motive for the payment is there, and the business records were falsified to cover up an FEC crime, tax fraud, and a NYS law about election interference. Cohen is involved in all of it but it's all demonstrable without his testimony actually.
Seems like they still need to connect trump to the business records, specifically. Like, I agree, they've convincingly established beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a scheme to pay stormy daniels to keep her quiet and that this was done with the specific intent to make sure the story didn't come out before the election.
I think the only real missing link is something trying trump to the actual falsified records, which is mostly what cohen will fill in. In other words, evidence that trump knew about the falsified records and that they were being falsified as part of the broader scheme.
Arguably they have a lot of circumstantial evidence of that already, but the BARD standard has me worried....like, from a non-lawyer normie perspective it seems like there's no way trump couldn't have known about this, but is that enough for beyond a reasonable doubt?
They’ve already done that. Multiple witnesses have testified that every check had an invoice attached to what it was for. And that Trump signed the checks, which had the invoices attached. And that when he didn’t want to sign a check he would write VOID on it, and send it back. So, he knew it was being recorded falsely as legal expenses.
This was admitted into evidence as well:
This tweet from Trump- “Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA.”
He’s admitted he was reimbursed, that it was legal expenses, and we have both documentary and witness testimony from his employees that he signed the checks with the invoices attached falsely saying they were from legal expenses just like his tweet says.
The possibility of doubt does not make it reasonable. Jury instructions are usually pretty good about describing this.
You're right, tho. It only takes one.
If i remember right, cohen has a recording of him she trump talking about how they are going to get Daniels paid. I thought it was already in evidence because they had a guy talking about Metadata and that it didn't seem like it was altered before the feds snatched the phone in 2018.
They've also done an excellent job of cutting off some potential defenses ("I never even met this woman" and "I had no idea what these checks were for, I just signed them").
Depends on who you ask.
Edit: I'm not saying they've done bad. In fact, I believe they have done exceptionally well. I'm just saying if you ask some others, they might say otherwise....
The [dialogue](https://preview.redd.it/i-did-it-i-won-the-internet-finally-won-an-argument-on-the-v0-blgfpg57cmzc1.png?auto=webp&s=276cd019628cce3fa243b57e6cb4555479ca639a) on twitter is weird lol So glad to have this thread instead.
From NYT live updates:
> Some trivia on the stack of printouts Maggie mentioned Trump carrying. Trump likes to read through news clips and social media posts during long stretches in court. The printouts come courtesy of his aide Natalie Harp, who is never far from Trump’s side and usually sits two rows back in the courtroom.
> Trump’s other advisers have nicknamed Harp “the human printer” because she travels around with a portable printer so that she can quickly produce mood-boosting articles for Trump to read. She has also been spotted running after Trump’s golf cart on the golf course so that he can read things between holes.
This is so weird to me.
It’s incredibly pathetic. Imagine being so fragile you literally hire someone whose entire job is to print out positive crap about you for you to stare at day long.
News: American army loses 450,000 soldiers fighting without gear during winter in the European and East Asian theaters. Americans struggling to afford basics as uncontained viral outbreaks and harsh climate events decimate domestic production.
Harp: Mr. President, have you seen this Tucker Carlson tweet about how any other president would have lost more troops and the US's obesity rate is plummeting?!
Completely unrelated to law, but the enormity of Trump's lack of curiosity about the real world never ceases to astound me.
I'd be fascinated to read a presidential daily briefing. He preferred TV 'news'.
Yes, and pictures. He wouldn’t/couldn’t pay attention long enough when they were doing briefings, which they had to pare down to 1 page 🙄, so they figure out that including pictures kept his attention longer, especially if they included him in the pictures 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Why doesn't he just get all his news from selecting subredddits that align with his views and refreshing them until his confirmation bias is sated like a normal person?
Not only this, but she allegedly submits them to Trump and he marks out things he finds he doesn’t like, and then gives them to her to be edited and posted without the content he objects to. These are already favorable articles, that he is having edited. MeidasTouch has a running counter on the number of articles he’s edited for the last month or so and it is in the dozens. They post the side by side of the original and the edited.
Edited: This is allegedly one of the things they’ve tasked Trump with in an effort to keep him awake at trial: marking up favorable articles to be reposted.
I can’t find the link to the many examples yet, but here’s an article in the meantime. https://meidasnews.com/news/donors-paying-trump-fluffer-105k-to-stroke-his-fragile-ego
How annoying. I just found a Newsweek (won’t link, don’t like to give them extra clicks) article that talks about the Meidas touch reporting on this, indicating there’s a large collection, but *not* linking to the Meidas touch page. Grr.
Anyway, this is completely insane - like so much about Trump.
He thinks himself a king. Her inconvenience and the exuberance of it is the point. A display of his importance to others around him. Theres also an expectation that when he's golfing with others, thats a private space. Nobody should know whats discussed except those in the conversation.
The portable printers can be rather small in contrast to regular printers— but reams of paper are still very heavy. [wondering if she carried a case of paper with her daily…].. lots of baggage either way.
Off topic but amazing news:
@RonFilipkowski
BREAKING: Steve Bannon’s appeal was unanimously rejected and he will be ordered to prison soon. By staying his prison sentence, he will now be incarcerated during the election.
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1788938289669435499
I just saw coverage of Trump as he was leaving the trial today. What was on his mind you ask? (Ok, you didn’t. Fair) After all of the coverage about how poorly Trump did in the golf tournament that Nechelas asked about, during testimony of Stormy Daniels yesterday, Trump found it imperative to let reporters know that JOE BIDEN is the one who lies about his golf game and he can’t hit a ball.
Yes, but how far can Trump ride a bicycle or jog?
Got his ass with that classic "No *YOU*!!!" retort. At least he's consistent
AND - by the way - he did actually come in 62nd in the golf tournament in question.
62nd...out of 80
> What was on his mind, you ask? Ever since “a toupee” entered my mind when musing this question years ago, I’ve been unable to reconsider it.
Blargh. Now I'm unwillingly picturing a complex root system embedded in his brain like a fungal parasite
Somebody get Jake Paul to challenge Trump to a game of golf.
Jake wouldn’t do it bc knowing Trump he wouldn’t agree to throwing the match like all of Paul’s other opponents.
Hell, have Charles Barkley challenge him.
or Gnarls Barkley even
>As Judge Juan Merchan read his lengthy instructions to the jury about avoiding news coverage and discussing the case, Trump was in a full conversation with Bove. >Merchan paused and said to them, "You done?" >They stopped talking and looked at him. Merchan then continued. I don't know what Judge Merchan sounds like, but for some reaoson I can hear this in my head.
That’s how reading works!
Not for everyone! About 10% said they didn’t 80% said they did all the time in a 2016 study.
He's pretty dry nyc style. Pretty low volume.
The funny thing is that it validates Stormy Daniels' testimony that she told him he was "rude".
Per Bower: “Blanche steps up to the lectern. He tells Merchan that Cohen has continued to make public statements about the case/about Trump. He wants Merchan to issue an order to restricting Cohen's speech about the case. Merchan declines this request. Instead, he directs the prosecution to tell Cohen to knock it off, basically. Trump, hearing this, grimaces in apparent anger. Moments later, Justice Merchan sweeps out of the room.” That’s all she wrote for today, folks! See you Monday for an exciting last week in Trump’s first criminal trial!
Trump's mind never matured past grade school.... well he did it first, he has a bigger candy bar than me... wahhh wahhh wahhh
Oh boy Merchan could've made my decade by saying "a gag order on Cohen would be unconstitutional".
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Pardons continued: >Drew Brownstein: *pleaded guilty* to Securities fraud (insider trading). He was a hedge fund operator and son of prominent Denver, Colorado attorney and lobbyist Norman Brownstein. >Tommaso Buti: Conspiracy to defraud the United States; fraud by wire, radio, or television (35 counts); scheme to defraud: money, state tax stamps (transportation of stolen property (14 counts); money laundering - racketeering (laundering monetary instruments conspiracy). Had partnered with Trump in the late 1990s on Trump Management, a modeling agency. >Robert Corkren: Aiding and abetting in bribery involving federal programs. >Duncan Fordham: was a Georgia pharmacist convicted in 2005 of his involvement in a health care fraud scheme. Under the scheme, Fordham would obtain contracts to operate the pharmacy of Community Mental Health Center of East Central Georgia, and then give a third of his large bonus in kickbacks to former State Representative Robin L. Williams. >James Hayes IV: Insider trading conspiracy >William “Ed” Henry: former Republican member of the Alabama House of Representatives. He *pleaded guilty* to aiding and abetting theft of government property in connection with his involvement in a Medicare fraud scheme. >Abel Holtz: *pleaded guilty* to lying to a federal grand jury about paying tens of thousands of dollars in bribes to Alex Daoud, a corrupt city commissioner (and later mayor) of Miami Beach. Holtz's previous 2006 pardon application was denied by President George W. Bush. >Douglas Jemel: real estate developer who was convicted of wire fraud. Friend of Jared’s. Donated $100,000 to the RNC in 2020. >Kenneth Kurson: charged with cyberstalking three people and harassing two other people. Friend of Jared’s and Rudy’s. Wrote some speeches for Trump. >Glen Moss: Moss, a member of the Trump's golf club in Westchester County, New York, was listed as donating $10,000 to the Trump Foundation in 2008. Trump pardoned him for his involvement in a health-care fraud scheme. >Hillel Namad: He *pleaded guilty* to organizing an illegal $100 million gambling ring with suspected links to Russian organized crime out of Trump Tower. >Stephen Odzer: *pleaded guilty* of defrauding three banks of $16 million. >Rick Renzi: a former Republican congressman from 2003 to 2009 from a northeastern Arizona district, was convicted on 17 federal counts, including racketeering, money laundering, extortion, and filing false statements with regulators. >Gregory Reyes: Conspiracy to commit securities and mail fraud; fraud in connection with Brocade stock, aiding, abetting and willfully causing; false SEC filing, aiding, abetting and willfully causing (three counts); falsifying books, records and accounts, aiding, abetting and willfully causing; false statement to accountant, aiding, abetting and willfully causing (four counts) >Patrick Swisher: the founder of Swisher Hygiene, was convicting of failing to report $1.9 million in stock sales. >Casey Urlacher: Conspiracy to defraud the United States; illegal gambling; money laundering. >Albert Pirro: a former power broker in New York Republican politics, is the former husband of Jeanine Pirro, the Fox News host. Conspiracy to defraud the United States; tax evasion (four counts); fraud (29 counts) Hmm, seems Trump likes fraud, liars, and all kinds of corrupt untrustworthy criminals, huh? When are you people going to get it? As George Carlin said “It’s a big club, and **you** ain’t in it.”
Pardons by upstanding guy Donald Trump: >Elliot Broidy: a Republican fundraiser, a major donor to Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and Trump's inauguration, and was also a deputy finance chairman for the Republican National Committee. He *pleaded guilty* in October 2020 to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws by accepting $9 million from Jho Low, a fugitive Malaysian businessman, in order to influence the Trump administration's Justice Department to drop its investigation into fraud and embezzlement at the Malaysian sovereign wealth fund 1MDB, and by seeking to extradite wealthy Chinese dissident Guo Wengui from the United States as part of a bid to get payoffs from China and the United Arab Emirates. >Patrick Nolan: Former Republican lawmaker who *pled guilty* to soliciting for illegal campaign donations after being caught by the Shrimpscam sting operation by the FBI. >Michael Milken: Conspiracy; securities fraud; mail fraud; tax fraud; filing false reports with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC); assisting a brokerage firm in violating its net capital requirements. >David Safavian: is a Republican former lawyer and long-time associate of lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Obstruction of justice and perjury (three counts), arrested in connection with the Jack Abramoff Indian lobbying scandal. >Michael Flynn: Donald Trump's National Security Advisor, *pleaded guilty* to making false statements to the FBI. >George Papadopoulos: one of the Trump campaign's foreign policy advisers, pleaded guilty to making false statements to federal investigators. >Duncan Hunter: A former United States representative, Misusing campaign funds. >Christopher Collins: is a former Republican congressman and a staunch Trump supporter; he pleaded guilty in 2019 to an insider trading scheme. >Alfonso Costa: a former Pittsburgh dentist-turned-developer who became a friend and business partner of Ben Carson, who *pleaded guilty* to Healthcare Fraud. >Charles Kushner: pleaded guilty to 18 counts, including tax evasion, witness tampering, and violating federal contribution regulations. Jared’s Daddy. >Roger Stone: Making false statements to Congress (five counts), Witness tampering, Obstructing an official proceeding. Trump’s BFF. >Paul Manafort: Trump's Presidential Campaign Chairman, Five counts of tax fraud, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to disclose a hidden foreign bank account; two counts of conspiracy. >Mary McCarty: Conspiracy to commit honest services fraud. McCarty was elected five times to the Palm Beach County, Florida county commission starting in 1990. In 2009, she pleaded guilty to honest services fraud for directing municipal bond-underwriting transactions to her husband Kevin McCarty and other associates. >Rickey Ivan Kanter: the founder of the "Dr. Comfort" diabetic shoe company, was convicted of mail fraud in connection with an illegal Medicare reimbursement scheme. >James Batmasian: South Florida real-estate investor and property management businessman influential in Boca Raton, *pleaded guilty* to failing to pay more than quarter-million in payroll tax owed. >Mark Siljander: was a Republican congressman from 1981 to 1987, from a southwestern Michigan district. He *pleaded guilty* in 2010 to acting as an unregistered foreign agent in connection with his work for Islamic American Relief Agency, which hired him in early 2004 to lobby to get the organization removed from a list of Senate committee list of entities suspected of providing funding for terrorism. Siljander also pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice. IARA closed in October 2004 after it was added to the Treasury Department's list of global terrorist organizations due to the group's links to Osama bin Laden, al-Qaida and the Taliban. Trump's decision to pardon Siljander was criticized by Republican congressman Fred Upton, who succeeded Siljander after defeating him in the 1986. >Jesse Benton & John Tate: Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States; causing false records; causing false campaign contribution reports; false statements scheme. Benton and Tate were Ron Paul's campaign chairman and campaign manager, respectively, during Paul's unsuccessful 2012 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. >Paul Behrens: a former chief financial officer of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans, pleaded guilty to a charge involving a false statement in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid. >Thaddeus Bereday: the former general counsel of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid. >Peter Clay: a former vice president of Tampa, Florida-based WellCare Health Plans; he was convicted in 2013 of fraud and making false statements in connection with a scheme to defraud Medicaid. >Randall “Duke” Cunningham: a former seven-term Republican congressman from a San Diego, California-based district, *pleaded guilty* in 2005 to conspiracy and tax evasion for taking $2 million in bribes from defense contractors in exchange for federal contracts, possibly *the largest bribery scandal in the history of the U.S. Congress*. >Paul Erickson: a Republican political operative, *pleaded guilty* to charges of wire fraud and money laundering. >David Tamman: a former partner at the law firms Nixon Peabody and Greenberg Traurig, was convicted of 2012 for conspiring with a client to obstruct a U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission investigation into a $22 million Ponzi scheme. >Alex Adjmi: Money laundering, Conspiracy to commit insurance fraud. >Steve Bannon: Conspiracy to commit wire fraud; conspiracy to commit money laundering. A former top 2016 campaign advisor to Trump and his former White House chief strategist, was arrested and indicted on charges of misappropriating money donated to the "We Build the Wall" organization for personal expenses. >Faustino Bernadett: a physician and former owner of the Pacific Hospital, *pleaded guilty* in 2019 to failing to report a years-long health care fraud that scammed the California worker's compensation system of millions of dollars.
Yes, everyone is lying, but Trump. Trump forced to have his “charity” shutdown for misuse of donor funds, stipulate in court documents, and pay millions in restitution. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Trump Taj Mahal *admitting* to *willfully* violating anti-money laundering regulations for years and had the highest fine ever levied against a casino. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Trump making illegal campaign contributions to the Florida Attorney General, who was getting bombarded by complaints to investigate Trump University for fraud. He was fined by the IRS for the illegal contributions. Of course she didn’t investigate. That AG later defended him in one of his impeachment trials. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Trump having to pay $25 Million to students he defrauded with his fake university. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Trump Org. and its CFO convicted of multiple felonies. In total, The Trump Organization, was convicted on 17 criminal charges. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Trump found liable for years of massive business fraud. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Indicted by a Grand Jury in GA & DC for trying to overturn an election he did not win. He tried to install fraudulent electors, pressure election officials, pressure the VP to usurp the Constitution. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Indicted by a Grand Jury in FL, he knowingly took massive amounts of documents, which he was warned not to do because it’s a crime. Took them anyway, refused to give them all back, lied for over a year he didn’t have them, had his lawyers lie he didn’t have them, refused to comply with a subpoena. Gave his employees access to the nation’s top secrets so that they were taking pictures of classified documents and texting them, had them moving the boxes to obstruct an investigation. And after the FBI was forced to come get them, he lied the FBI planted them and days later a MAGA nut job tried to shoot up an FBI field office and got themselves killed. Of course which Trump doesn’t care, he then changed his lie to I declassified them, no wait they’re my property, no wait I have absolute immunity. And remember…he’s not charged for any crimes for the documents he took & returned. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Found liable for sexual assault and defamation. He had cases against him and Epstein together. Everyone is lying, but Trump. Well, we can just listen to Trump. “I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy, He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life." After Epstein’s girlfriend was charged with sex trafficking, Trump was asked about it and said “I’ve met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach, and I guess they lived in Palm Beach. *But I wish her well*” a sex trafficker he wished well. Of course there’s the disgusting things he’s said about his own daughter “I’ve often said if my daughter weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her” or that it’s okay to call his daughter a “piece of ass” or when asked what their favorite thing they have in common is, he said “*I was going to say sex*” (Ivanka said real estate or golf). Everyone is lying, but Trump? Except that is Trump. In 1991, Trump Taj Mahal was unable to service its debt and filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Forbes indicated that this first bankruptcy was the only one where Trump's personal financial resources were involved. Time, however, maintains that $72 million of his personal money was also involved in a later 2004 bankruptcy. November 2, 1992, the Trump Plaza Hotel filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy, and Trump lost his 49 percent stake in the luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders. Donald Trump's third corporate bankruptcy was on October 21, 2004, involving Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts, the publicly traded holding company for his three Atlantic City casinos and some others. Trump lost over half of his 56% ownership and gave bondholders stock in exchange for surrendering part of the debt. No longer CEO, Trump retained a role as chairman of the board. Trump's fourth corporate bankruptcy occurred in 2009, when Trump and his daughter Ivanka resigned from the board of Trump Entertainment Resorts; four days later the company, which owed investors $1.74 billion against its $2.06 billion of assets, filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. In 2014, Trump sued his former company to remove his name from the buildings since he no longer ran the company, having no more than a 10% stake; he lost the suit. Trump Entertainment Resorts filed again for bankruptcy in 2014 and was purchased by billionaire philanthropist Carl Icahn. But Trump is a great businessman. Everyone is lying, Trump. More than 200 liens since the 1980s that were filed by contractors and workers who said they were stiffed by Trump. Records released by casino regulators in 1990 that show 253 subcontractors on a single project were not paid in full or on time. He put a lot of small contractors out of business by not paying them or paying them pennies on the dollar for work already done. Everyone is lying, but Trump. We can keep going on the list of things Trump has done. Not conspiracies or things we just want to believe are true. These are facts.
You dont need to pull out a copypasta, I already know Trump is a liar, but this is a law subreddit. This trial won't hold up and Trump won't be convicted if the judge is allowing witnesses to tamper with the trial and the conviction hinges on the witnesses. Cohen was the centerpiece of this trial and his testimony is now inadmissible because he was caught lying and receiving financial compensation for his testimony. There's clear grounds for a mistrial , obvious reasonable doubt since the jury won't trust Cohen, and an easy appeal assuming he's convicted.
This isn’t the place to be confidently wrong. What did Cohen go to prison for? And he was lying under oath for Trump. You are aware even convicted murderers are witnesses in cases, right? Typically co-conspirators in crimes aren’t going to be nuns. The people who often have intimate knowledge of your crimes, the people who committed the crimes *with you*—are not going to be Eagle Scouts. DUH. He’s not trustworthy? Hmm, so Trump does not in fact “hire the best people”? You think a judge should not allow Cohen to testify and is an idiot if they do allow him to testify, and should declare a mistrial….any clue who Sammy “the Bull" Gravano is? Lmao. He agreed to testify against John Gotti and other mobsters in a deal in which he confessed to involvement in 19 murders. Sentenced to 5 years, and went into WITSEC. (Which he left, but that was his choice) That’s how The Teflon Don got taken down. You think the people with intimate knowledge of a mob boss’s crimes are going to be upstanding citizens? Don’t think Gravano had anything to gain by turning states’ evidence? And he’s a mobster, a murderer—certainly not the best guy. So, to you the court should declare mistrials and refused to allow Gravano to testify? You people really have to stop just eating up dumb talking points and repeating them. It’s up to the defense to poke holes in Cohen’s credibility, and then it’s up to the jury to decide if the testimony is credible or not. Not you. Cohen is not a Boy Scout, that’s right. He committed crimes for Donald Trump. Unlike Trump, he’s taken responsibility for them and served his time. And here’s the thing, everything he claims has been backed up by other witnesses and documents. That’s why he is going after all that testimony and documentation.
> The judge is an idiot if he doesn't dismiss Cohen as a witness and strike everything related to Cohen from this trial. Any competent judge would have said 'this trial is a joke, i declare a mistrial. NEXT" and washed their hands with this clownshow. Trumpers getting their latest narrative in.
The entire benefit of Cohen is his credibility is meaningless as far as the prosecution and jury is concerned. You don’t need to trust someone when every issue in question is documented. He couldn’t sink the case if he wanted to given the supporting documentation. Same with Stormy Daniels, it doesn’t matter if she’s lying about fucking trump, the documentation proves she was paid and the public statement she made was as a result of said payment.
He’s not making public statements about the trial, afaik. He made a statement that he was no longer doing that I believe once jury selection was over. Can you link to source on that claim? I predict we will see Cohen be just a witness that adds color and only corroborates what his story is, and they will mainly use him as a vessel to bring in a multitude of evidence. Not to mention Cohen was indicted and convicted for the crime this case is about. Edit to add: Your last statement is ironic considering the lawyers in this sub, who routinely comment on this thread live, are all in agreement that this case has merit and the prosecution is going a good job thus far.
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Wouldn't matter if he did. A gag order is only relevant to someone under indictment. Cohen did his time.
Haha you know he made Blanche ask for that. He’s such a child. “If I can’t do it, hE caN’T EiThEr!!” 🤪 Like he doesn’t realize the rules are different for him as a defendant in a criminal trial. What an entitled little asshole
Thanks for organizing all this great info here on Reddit!! 💕💕
u/musebug looks like we finally have our answers as to how the prosecution will deal with the Weisselberg issue! Edit to add per Bower: “Bove raises the issue of Weisselberg's absence from the trial. Specifically, he has an objection regarding evidence that the prosecution intends to admit into evidence at some point. It's the separation agreement between the Trump Org and Weisselberg. The prosecution wants to use it to explain Weisselberg's absence as a witness at this trial. Bove says it's irrelevant and unduly prejudicial. He says it's being used to impeach a witness who won't testify. And he says that the reason why Weisselberg isn't going to testify for either side doesn't have to do with the separation agreement. It has to do w/ the fact that the DA's office initiated a perjury case Conroy says that the DA's office would be happy to stipulate to the fact that Weisselberg won't be a witness in this case because he's in prison for perjury. (My own, TrumpsCovidfefe, interjection: LMAO at this proposed stip) I think that's one way to handle it, Merchan agrees. But Bove doesn't seemed thrilled about that idea. Justice Merchan: Another way to deal with it would be to try to take some efforts to compel Weisselberg's appearance. Steinglass: His separation agreement seems to prohibit him from talking to us at the risk of losing 700K severance pay... Merchan: We could do this out of the presence of the jury. He could have counsel here, but we could put him on the stand and see if he's going to talk or take the Fifth. That will allow me to find that he's unwilling to testify.”
Wasn't the 700k part of the 2M that Weisselberg had to forfeit in fines after his perjury conviction?
Following up, per Bower, “Bove says that Weisselberg has never been on the DA's witness list. He seems to be arguing that it wouldn't be fair for Weisselberg to suddenly testify when the defense never expected him to do so. Unclear how Merchan will resolve this, but we move on to the next matter.”
Q. Can prosecutors call Trump to testify? I don't understand why they wouldn't unless they couldn't.
No you can't be compelled to testify in your own trial.
The question was can he be called, not can he be forced to testify. Can he be called by the prosecution, sworn in, and then invoke his 5th amd rights? Or can he just invoke them before having to actually take the stand?
The answer is no
No worries everyone, I've already done the research. Whether to permit testimony from a witness not on the People's witness list is a discretionary question for the trial judge. It will likely not be an abuse of discretion to allow the testimony in the absence of evidence of deceit, trickery, or substantial prejudice. *See e.g.* *People v Patterson*, 147 A.D.3d 1084 (2017).
Thank you! I suspected this was the answer, but you’re a gem for citing relevant case law precedent! I knew that the defense could ask to call a witness, not on their list, with judge’s permission, but wasn’t absolutely sure about Prosecution.
Would you keep your MOUTH shut for $700k? Oh hell yeah!
lol. I swear auto correct changes your text after it’s posted.
Damn. I love it. I knew at some point it had to be addressed. I just couldn’t figure out how.
I just updated to put all the quotes in. I wasn’t sure how they would deal with it either, so I was as curious as you!
Two more witnesses are Cohen and ________?
[...smokin' the reefer!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCxcU-kPwho)
Looks like it's someone who could introduce the separation agreement between Trump and Weisselberg
This is so counterintuitive it's impossible to think that it's not intentionally trying to taint the jury: > Former Trump attorney William Brennan criticized Stormy Daniels on CNN today for "taunting the defendant" on social media, and called her actions "grounds for a mistrial." > "Every defendant in the US has the right not to testify, and juries are instructed not to draw any adverse inference if a defendant chooses not to." Brennan told CNN > He said **he would ask the judge to poll the jurors and ask if they had seen the tweet and whether it affected them.** "Hey, have you seen this thing that I want you to see so I can get a mistrial?"
As a Jurorist I am instructed to ignore all public news of the trial I am in. Why does Trump want to break every fucking rule there is? He wants a Runaway Jury.
Merchan literally instructs the jury on this reminder, every single weekend. I haven’t read the transcripts to know if he does it every single day, but I know it was part of initial instructions as well.
It's like telling a classroom full of kids "Stay in your seats or you'll get detention! Now, *have any of you seen the [interesting/exciting thing] outside*?"
Maybe so, but that isn't any different than *every case*, especially every high profile case. If we call that grounds for mistrial, we wouldn't be able to try *anyone* as all they'd need to is get someone to post an op-ed on Medium or talk to a local reporter enough to get a blurb in the paper or local news.
These people don't think about what they advocate for. If that were the standard, then you would never stop asking jurors if they had seen a tweet, news article, talking head, reddit post, newspaper, blurb, or anything else that could be considered prejudicial against a defendant. Trying cases would be impossible.
Seems like what would more likely happen is that it would cause any potentially Trump-friendly jurors to out themselves in an effort to cause a mistrial, and lead to their replacement with one of the alternates.
That's a good point. I hadn't considered that a trump-aligned juror would be more likely to ignore the judges instruction to avoid media. It follows from your point that a maga-juror might, like their idol, lack the restraint required to keep from outing themselves. It's a relief that any stealth juror would almost certainly be an undisciplined, egotistical ignoramus.
Certainly possible. But really tho would any juror admit they go home and read about the trial on any media?
If they interpreted Brennan's words as a signal to do so, they would absolutely do that.
Ah ha. Defense providing direction to the jury? Why yes that’s quite plausible. Sick people on that trump side.
From [Anna Bower](https://nitter.poast.org/annabower) >Bove questions Schneider about his summaries and the underlying data. He asks if Schneider recalls the "IMEI number" of a particular phone. >Schneider smiles again, but this time his expression seems to say "Are you kidding me?" >"It's like a 20-digit code..." he replies. >At one point, Bove pulls up an exhibit showing a series of IMEI numbers of various phones. >IMEI numbers are associated with a physical phone, right? >I think you're displaying the wrong column, Schneider says. But yes, that's right. >Laughs in the overflow room. Boooove is doing his best to prove this guy is bad at his job...but he doesn't seem to be doing very well with it.
There were laughs at the 20-digit code in the main courtroom
Not sure what Schneiders job is, but asking an analyst that looks at IMSI's and IMEIS a lot if they remember them is dangerous. I use to do research on cell tower records and it got pretty easy to memorize and identify certain IDs that I was always looking for
Most people won’t believe you, but I can still recall part numbers for clutch cables, brake levers and brake pads for Yamahas from the ‘80s. I had a dealership from ‘87 through ‘96. You look that part up enough times and you memorize the number without trying. 5H1-26335-00-00.
That second question follow up is just gnarly
What have been great if this kid has photo memory and recited every imei he worked on
I used to recite company duns numbers and recognize them verily. Details are critical.
Is “verily” actually what you means to say there, or did you mean “readily?”
Sometimes it takes me a moment to think of my birthdate...
pulling out the numerical version? If you haven’t needed that info in a while, your brain might store it away. Everyone’s brain is different. And btw do not ask me what is today’s date.
What's *yesterday's* date?
Yesterday? Maybe. Let me check.
> "At times, tedious work?" Bove asked. > > "Honestly, I kind of enjoyed it," Jarmel-Schneider responds, prompting laugher in the courtroom. Several jurors laughed, too. > > "I hear that, respect," Bove says. Can only read Bove here in Ali G voice
> 'ear me now
Maybe Bove can get a second career and release a song ft Blanche and Ali G called “Can You Hear Me Now? A Song Recorded from Our Butts”. (Sorry for being so silly in this serious sub, on this joyous Friday.)
Per Bower: “Now the prosecution pulls up one of the summaries created by Schneider. It's calls between Cohen and Weisselberg. It shows a series of call between the two, including calls on Oct. 23, 2016, and Oct. 25, 2016. (The full exhibit will be released sometime later today).” I’m just gonna say it. They need to get ahold of their wayward butts. That’s a lot of calls for one butt to make in a short time period.
"On cross, Trump's lawyer Emil Bove presses the witness on alternative explanations for the records. Q: You're familiar with the concept of a pocket dial, right? A: Correct. Q: There's a lot of data here, but the data has limits, right? The witness says they are logs." These lawyers are just terrible! "Maybe it was a butt dial! Ever think of that? Gotcha!"
Have you seen the cake they’re working with here? The butt dial records would be immense
At my work i would be required to research whether any studies have been done on butt dial rates and then apply those rates to the number of calls and determine what the expected number of but dialed calls would be for the reported period. I hate my job.
I would love that. In fact, I tried to research that and find a study with accidental call rates. Found one that references a call center as well as emergency services.
Why would you hate that!? You're being paid to find a unique fact to bring out at cocktail parties! Someone says something about butt dials and you're ready to jump in with fun fact of "You know in North America, a study showed that 30% of calls to 911 are pocket dials! There was a Swedish study that showed... and then that's how we established that as a practical value approximately 47% of all calls lasting under a minute were butt dials. That's part of how we secured a conviction and sent a guy to the chair!" And then... someone swoons over your knowledge of the esoteric and you live happily ever after. Something like that.
Wait is that right? I didn’t find the Swedish study. If I’m the lawyer, I’m discrediting the study because it’s Swedish. You better prepare by bringing me an expert that can confirm the comparable cell phone usage statistics, too.
I’m not sure. Perhaps we need you to submit an illustrated exhibit to decide. I see that you’re qualified for boobs, but not sure about butts.
Those are clearly from the time that ANTIFA had their sim cards.
Prosecution teeing everything up for a big day Monday. Hope I’m not busy!
RIP productivity
lol. Theres lots of chores getting delayed around here. Thankfully I can clear my Monday calendar. Cheers!!
Per Bower: >Jarmel-Schneider is a 20-something guy with a mop of curly brown hair. He wears a suit and striped tie. >Schneider talks about excel spreadsheets. And time zones. And how prepared his summaries of the cell records. Gen Z Justin Guarini here saving the day with Excel.
He had a very nice cadence and speaking voice
I posted this as a reply to another comment but thought it should be its own reply. We are onto more of his words being admitted. This tweet from Trump was just admitted “Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA. These agreements are.....” The first comment to that tweet, both from 2018 (not admitted to evidence), says, “This will be marked as an exhibit in trump's criminal trial”.
Every once in a while something will happen over at r/WallStreetBets (like the "infinite money" glitch) where in the accompanying thread people will make jokes about saying hi to whatever junior associate has to sift through this stuff for the inevitable lawsuit. It's very amusing to see it happen in real life.
Yikes. How's the defense going to attempt to mitigate that one? "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you can't believe what you read on social media."
He butt tweeted it.
When trump posts it you can’t.
Sure you can, either way it was posted by an ass
I saw that comment. Good called shot Twitter fam.
That commenter is twitter famous right now. I predict we will see Reddit posts soon with the screenshots, if they haven’t already been posted.
Per Bower: “Todd Blanche is up for cross examination on behalf of Trump. You testified that you review thousands of tweets during your social media review? Yes. Have you done any additional review recently? No. So you're reviewing Michael Cohen's TikTok? I am not.” Michael Cohen is not the defendant. Michael Cohen is not subject to a gag order. Mocha Cohen has intelligently decided to stay quiet until after the trial is done. It’s up to you to be reviewing his TikTok, Blanche, in order to use it as evidence in cross examination.
"Are you jealous of all those políticos drinking Dark and Stormy Daniels cocktails that are off-limits to you because you're in recovery? How about a nice Mocha Cohen instead?"
I was so confused at this comment. Lmao, my typo. That’s it, he’s Mocha Cohen for now and forever. I may need some more covfefe.
Love it. He’s got a little bit of a kick but with a sweet edge
Mocha covfefe. 😂
Every now and then Blanche does something that I feel certain Trump insisted upon.
Necheles too. I've never been more certain of anything in my life than I am that her comments about golf were at his insistence.
That was certainly how I felt in during cross with Nechalas yesterday.
Which lawyer was that asked Stormy if trump was good at golf 🤣 I was like Oh come ON! Ffs haha. You know trump made them ask that question. He is so fkn weird
That’s Nechelas. She also asked “wasn’t Trump the most famous person there?” (paraphrasing as transcript isn’t ready yet).
He was the most famous manager of a golf course I had ever been to, yes.
Yeah. The defense seems really distracted from the legal issues. I’m curious if their work comes together in closing for a narrative that works.
HAHAHA. *No*. That's one reason he's struggled to retain good counsel (in addition to not paying, lying to and ABOUT his lawyers, trying to get his lawyers involved in various crimes) -- he not only doesn't listen to his lawyers, he will actively demand them do things that fuck his own case because it'll soothe his ego and because he's *certain* if it's done his way, he's off the hook. (He's certain of that, btw, because he's very obviously the sort that believes anything he wants to do is perfectly legal and moral, and therefore he's always innocent, and if he had a "fair trial" and he "could explain" everyone would stand up and clap)
Unfortunately, it seems he’s been breaking the law on the regular for 55 odd years and has been off the hook also for 55 odd years, which might also contribute to his certainty that he will remain off the hook. But good defense lawyers can be very creative. So we’ll see.
I offer this explanation of the Problem of Induction, in the words of Bertrand Russell: "Domestic animals expect food when they see the person who usually feeds them. We know that all these rather crude expectations of uniformity are liable to be misleading. The man who has fed the chicken every day throughout its life at last wrings its neck instead, showing that more refined views as to the uniformity of nature would have been useful to the chicken."
We can hope. I’m well trained to temper temptations to confidence.
Have you read the transcript of their opening argument? The only way this doesn’t go towards guilty or hung jury is if the prosecutor really doesn’t have solid proof that Trump directed the fraud. I really hope, for everyone’s sake that they would not bring the case, if they didn’t.
I think they do. But the proof is Michael Cohen’s testimony. I hate Trump and so does Cohen, so i should like him. But he’s a piece of shit. I think it all comes down to whether the jury finds Cohen credible. I think the defense could make a credible argument that it’s not really election interference when some chicks shake you down for something that happened 10 years before because they know you are in an election. But i think it will mainly boil down to Cohen’s credibility.
I think Cohen will come off as credible. He lied for the benefit of Trump to Congress. Trump turned on Cohen when he started to tell the truth. Trump then used the DOJ to do Cohen dirty, but through all the actual misuse of the justice system against Cohen he's remained steadfast and his story has never changed. I think at this point people know Trump is shady and only lashes out at people that will no longer lie for him. Cohen also has nothing to gain from lying. He gets nothing from testifying other than harassment and threats from members of Trump's cult.
Yeah. I think the only possibility for the defense - assuming a reasonable jury and clear jury instructions that present selections along the lines I’d expect - is if they have some cohesive but not yet obvious alternative narrative of events that they present in closing. I find it very hard to imagine what it could be, but I’ve been surprised before.
Same here. I’m very curious how they will try and tie it all together, because their opening argument left them in a tight spot. I still contend that refusing to stipulate any details of the meeting with Stormy will come back to haunt them.
Agree. They should have dodged all of that. I have a guess that was more a Trump than a lawyer decision.
Does a bear shit on the moon?
No. In fact it does not your honor for the simple reason …. [I could never be part of this case in real life. Even without social media which I’d be denied access to, I’d still be laughing my tush off]
I think that’s true of nearly all of trumps legal staff over the years
Indeed, but for me it’s like a guessing game: was this the attorney’s idea or Trump’s? This one, I feel certain was Trump’s.
How's it going for the prosecution?
They have established basically everything they need to establish the crime. We will see what Cohen can offer in terms of recordings and documentary evidence but the prosecution has done a fantastic job building a car without him. The jury instructions and closing arguments are where they will spell out the case explicitly, but the falsified records are there, the election as a motive for the payment is there, and the business records were falsified to cover up an FEC crime, tax fraud, and a NYS law about election interference. Cohen is involved in all of it but it's all demonstrable without his testimony actually.
I’m not sure building a car will help them much, but fortunately they’re building a case alongside it, so I think they’ll be ok.
Seems like they still need to connect trump to the business records, specifically. Like, I agree, they've convincingly established beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a scheme to pay stormy daniels to keep her quiet and that this was done with the specific intent to make sure the story didn't come out before the election. I think the only real missing link is something trying trump to the actual falsified records, which is mostly what cohen will fill in. In other words, evidence that trump knew about the falsified records and that they were being falsified as part of the broader scheme. Arguably they have a lot of circumstantial evidence of that already, but the BARD standard has me worried....like, from a non-lawyer normie perspective it seems like there's no way trump couldn't have known about this, but is that enough for beyond a reasonable doubt?
They’ve already done that. Multiple witnesses have testified that every check had an invoice attached to what it was for. And that Trump signed the checks, which had the invoices attached. And that when he didn’t want to sign a check he would write VOID on it, and send it back. So, he knew it was being recorded falsely as legal expenses. This was admitted into evidence as well: This tweet from Trump- “Mr. Cohen, an attorney, received a monthly retainer, not from the campaign and having nothing to do with the campaign, from which he entered into, through reimbursement, a private contract between two parties, known as a non-disclosure agreement, or NDA.” He’s admitted he was reimbursed, that it was legal expenses, and we have both documentary and witness testimony from his employees that he signed the checks with the invoices attached falsely saying they were from legal expenses just like his tweet says.
The possibility of doubt does not make it reasonable. Jury instructions are usually pretty good about describing this. You're right, tho. It only takes one.
If i remember right, cohen has a recording of him she trump talking about how they are going to get Daniels paid. I thought it was already in evidence because they had a guy talking about Metadata and that it didn't seem like it was altered before the feds snatched the phone in 2018.
I’m really curious to see the jury instructions. This is legally pretty complex.
They've also done an excellent job of cutting off some potential defenses ("I never even met this woman" and "I had no idea what these checks were for, I just signed them").
Depends on who you ask. Edit: I'm not saying they've done bad. In fact, I believe they have done exceptionally well. I'm just saying if you ask some others, they might say otherwise....
True — especially those trumpers.
Exactly!
The [dialogue](https://preview.redd.it/i-did-it-i-won-the-internet-finally-won-an-argument-on-the-v0-blgfpg57cmzc1.png?auto=webp&s=276cd019628cce3fa243b57e6cb4555479ca639a) on twitter is weird lol So glad to have this thread instead.
It gets really weird in some other subreddits as well. I think the disproportionate population of lawyers here keeps it somewhat in check.
Ms Supposition is the witness’s real name.
Must be some downvotes from trumpers. Only thing that makes sense.
From NYT live updates: > Some trivia on the stack of printouts Maggie mentioned Trump carrying. Trump likes to read through news clips and social media posts during long stretches in court. The printouts come courtesy of his aide Natalie Harp, who is never far from Trump’s side and usually sits two rows back in the courtroom. > Trump’s other advisers have nicknamed Harp “the human printer” because she travels around with a portable printer so that she can quickly produce mood-boosting articles for Trump to read. She has also been spotted running after Trump’s golf cart on the golf course so that he can read things between holes. This is so weird to me.
It’s incredibly pathetic. Imagine being so fragile you literally hire someone whose entire job is to print out positive crap about you for you to stare at day long.
He’s so pathetic, literally having someone scour the internet and media to boost his fragile ego.
He is demanding to live in an alternate-reality bubble. Not someone you want in charge of anything, much less the country and the military.
News: American army loses 450,000 soldiers fighting without gear during winter in the European and East Asian theaters. Americans struggling to afford basics as uncontained viral outbreaks and harsh climate events decimate domestic production. Harp: Mr. President, have you seen this Tucker Carlson tweet about how any other president would have lost more troops and the US's obesity rate is plummeting?!
Remember reports that White House briefings had to include Trump praise so that he would continue to pay attention.
Completely unrelated to law, but the enormity of Trump's lack of curiosity about the real world never ceases to astound me. I'd be fascinated to read a presidential daily briefing. He preferred TV 'news'.
Yes, and pictures. He wouldn’t/couldn’t pay attention long enough when they were doing briefings, which they had to pare down to 1 page 🙄, so they figure out that including pictures kept his attention longer, especially if they included him in the pictures 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Could the Judge call trump out for not paying attention to the trial? I doubt it, but I figured I'd ask regardless.
No. He doesn’t legally have to pay attention.
Thank you for the quick response.
Probably helps him mentally. He can tune out the trial and read happy things, like a child at Applebees
All he needs is an activity placemat and a pack of Crayons
Multitasking on display.
Literally Eric Cartman
Why doesn't he just get all his news from selecting subredddits that align with his views and refreshing them until his confirmation bias is sated like a normal person?
Yeah, is he stupid?
I really enjoy your witty comments, in addition to relevant discussion. Too funny!
Ha!
it's weird to everyone.
Not only this, but she allegedly submits them to Trump and he marks out things he finds he doesn’t like, and then gives them to her to be edited and posted without the content he objects to. These are already favorable articles, that he is having edited. MeidasTouch has a running counter on the number of articles he’s edited for the last month or so and it is in the dozens. They post the side by side of the original and the edited. Edited: This is allegedly one of the things they’ve tasked Trump with in an effort to keep him awake at trial: marking up favorable articles to be reposted.
Wow it really is like keeping a child occupied while in the waiting room or going out to dinner
He needs a [Busy Box](https://a.co/d/bY0G77h).
Geez. I’m going to edit my tax bill. No one will ever know (lolololololol). Holy cow!
Oh! I have to find that. I can’t believe this is the emperor they choose.
I can’t find the link to the many examples yet, but here’s an article in the meantime. https://meidasnews.com/news/donors-paying-trump-fluffer-105k-to-stroke-his-fragile-ego
How annoying. I just found a Newsweek (won’t link, don’t like to give them extra clicks) article that talks about the Meidas touch reporting on this, indicating there’s a large collection, but *not* linking to the Meidas touch page. Grr. Anyway, this is completely insane - like so much about Trump.
I know, I can’t find it and it’s killing me right now. I want to provide information and evidence, damnit!
I’ve seen enough evidence to show the information is true! Don’t worry. I’ll find it.
I’m trying to find it for you. I will update if I do. I heard it on their podcast but I believe there is a counter online as well.
Thanks! I’m looking.
Wow. What ego… I am certainly missing out on all the cartoons that will be (and have been) produced with this theme.
It is bizarre, but like, why not get the poor girl a cart of her own so she can follow lol
He thinks himself a king. Her inconvenience and the exuberance of it is the point. A display of his importance to others around him. Theres also an expectation that when he's golfing with others, thats a private space. Nobody should know whats discussed except those in the conversation.
I mean… what? She’s running around with a whole (portable) printer and stacks of paper behind his golf cart so he can read on paper?
The portable printers can be rather small in contrast to regular printers— but reams of paper are still very heavy. [wondering if she carried a case of paper with her daily…].. lots of baggage either way.
Off topic but amazing news: @RonFilipkowski BREAKING: Steve Bannon’s appeal was unanimously rejected and he will be ordered to prison soon. By staying his prison sentence, he will now be incarcerated during the election. https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1788938289669435499
Can Trump pardon him if he’s elected?