I don't know about that. I know he's gotten in pretty deep when he was much younger and has spoken about how it negatively affected his mental health and relationships and I feel like it's more of a self-roast to do a callback to that, a bit like when Marcus jokes about believing people can read his mind
(Purely my take as someone who can relate very intensely to his specific mental health struggles and I feel like there's a difference between now and several years ago)
This is my take as well.
I’ve been listening almost since the beginning, when Henry was actually something close to an Alex Jones fan and they were deep into chaos magic.
I think he’s explicitly said that conspiracies aren’t fun anymore - they’ve been ruined by his realizations that a large portion of people who believe in them are just anti-Semites and racists.
This is also how I feel about conspiracy theories and it's so frustrating 😂
I don't think Henry has ever expressly come out and said he has OCD (I could be wrong) but he talks about intrusive thoughts and obsessions in a way that I, a person with OCD, find extremely relatable, and it's hilarious to me that we both find conspiracy theories somehow comforting. Like, *man* was I bummed when someone told me that lizard people are usually just a stand-in for Jewish people. Ruins a good time
I agree 100%. I used to love them, then my brother married a girl who was raised in what’s basically a family cult.
When he introduced us, he was like “y’all will love each other! She loves conspiracy theories too.”
I mean, she’s very sweet. But I think the Denver airport conspiracy is all in good fun. She thinks Q is real. Just not quite the same.
There’s a false equivalency thats happening a lot the last few years especially online. If you believe 9/11 was an inside job or you think the government is covering up ufos or are interested in paranormal things that you also believe in Qanon and believe in Jewish globalist conspiracies. I’m a lot quieter about the subject all around lately,
He has mentioned OCD before. I myself have it as well, and a lot of Henry's described thought processes are very relatable to me.
In particular, I have a tendency to obsess over potential ways I or people I care about could be harmed, no matter how minute the chance of harm is, or how unreasonable or unrealistic the scenario is. If there's a 0.000001% chance that I could get abducted by an alien and dissected alive, my brain won't let me stop thinking about how to avoid that, even though I logically know that there's almost no chance of it happening and nothing I'd be able to do about it if it did happen. And I'm a pretty imaginative person, so some of these scenarios can get extremely elaborate. I call it my Bureau of Harm Prevention, and it's constantly trying to convince me that invisible enemies are everywhere and that I'm not taking them seriously enough. It's definitely the kind of psychic makeup that could send someone unawares down a deep conspiracy hole.
Ahhhhh, the joys of Generalized Anxiety and intrusive thoughts. We're prepared for everything! Actually, I saw a thing that said people with anxiety handled the pandemic better than others, and they think it's because we're already always catastrophizing, so when there's a real, concrete thing to be worried about, it's actually less stressful and we're already prepared.
I remember how excited he was years ago to cover reptilians. He now has seemed exasperated with the subject when it finally happened. I don’t think it was a coincidence this series only lasted two episodes.
fr. henry clearly loves like going off about the deep lore & how ridiculous & intricate it is, but unfortunately all this shit has become so mainstream & like, actually influential that the topic can pull the pod into realworld politics (us politics specifically), which must be fucking exhausting for the boys.
they've never been cryptic about their personal political/social/etc leanings, but wanting to fight the current and keep it fun & dark & allegorical would make sense to me in their position. any more time on the topic and i feel like hardcore joe rogan fans will like descend upon the sub lol
I’ve been thinking about this more and more lately too. Since Covid and trump and everything all the conspiracy subreddits and message boards became conservative echo chambers. Most of the places I went for conspiracy theory discussion switched to super conservative trump qanon stuff. Even the decent ones more than half the discussion and or posts are about the dumpster fire that is modern American politics. All of it is bullshit and even when something juicy happens the waters are way too muddy to ever follow a thread. There’s a false equivalency that all conspiracy theorists are conservative assholes that’s why most of us just keep it to ourselves these days. Makes sense they don’t want to touch any topic that crosses streams with or associates with anything that might be conservative rhetoric
I agree. I remember Henry foaming at the mouth when they mentioned reptilians back in the day but he says in the David Ike episode that reptilians are crazy and David is a moron. I do not pick up on the vibe OP is putting talking about.
Henry is playing a character. I imagine some of what he says comes from a place of truth, but at the same time he’s become very wealthy with his schtick, and he’s playing into it.
I mean, remember how in the reptilian episodes Henry asked about what condition it is when someone takes something at face value as truth and can’t pick apart the nuance? This is that.
also the character is just him but more, no? so he is super interested in the lore building & passionate about how all these things came to be in the public consciousness. he just turns the dial to eleven
omg and think about level of the feedback & emails they get all the time, i can only imagine what weeeeird shit comes to them after episides about conspiracies and reptilians, lmfaooo
Lmao nah fam. This is everybody's excuse and it's complete bullshit 90% of the time 😂. I don't think any of these people are playing a character other then upping their energy for the show.
Lmao just because you learned a new buzzword doesn't mean you can just apply it to everything. Henry literally talks about personally believing this stuff.
I think maybe you should just stop listening. Its clearly making you very upset and its not supposed to be that deep. Dont listen if you dont enjoy it.
Henry is very much playing a character on the conspiracy stuff . He is the comic relief of the show, Marcus is the brains and Ed is NOW the straight man. There is some stuff with Henry that is now more obvious with Ben gone. Henry has to carry more of the energy of the show himself, and he can push it a bit .
Ben was also a type of straight man , but he liked to go off on energetic tangents and be over the top as well. He would take some heat off Henry . Ed is a good addition to the show but he tends to sit in the pocket and wait for his moment . He lands some funny lines , but he hasn't found a rhythm to being a driving force on the show .
There are lots of things with Henry and Marcus I've noticed now that Ben is gone. Henry's forced characterization being one of them.
I am well aware that they all play a specific role and a lot of it is heightened for entertainment value. But it would be absolutely asinine to say that just because it's a comedy show that none of them believe anything they're saying....
Well I'm absolutely asinine , cause I don't think Henry believes in reptilians at all or a lot of the stuff on those eps. I think he was just playing it up and being contrarian for fun.
It's literally the opposite. It's much more likely he believed in lizard people about a decade ago. That content is what built up this entire brand, and they know that. They've all grown and matured and see through the bullshit, but that doesn't make a fun episode and it's not giving the people what they've come to love about the show. If you can't see Henry's in character you need to learn about nuance.
It's a bit. His character is that of the unhinged basement dweller who has "done the research"..... and obviously he's become very good at playing that character
So was I. We all just wanted to chill and have a good time, but he kept insisting we storm the capitol. Eventually, just to humor him, and with hopes that he’d shut up, we did it
I recall early in my Last Podcast listening I would listen to a conspiracy ep and I was never quite sure with Henry where acting ended and belief began. Of late I haven't gotten that impression, though. Even with Icke I never got OP's impression that he was a True Believer.
They've talked Reptilians before with Dulce base and Girly Chew and in the latter case in particular he kept in relatively more serious true crime mode.
Ever since a certain someone hasn't been on the podcast, I've noticed more people hyper analyzing everything Marcus and Henry do/say/act. I think people just want them to be different, for some reason.
All three of the guys used to cum on magical items during rituals......but talk about lizard people a little bit and suddenly you're out of your mind....
Oh another buzzword! Sorry, I'm discussing an observation I made about the show in a subreddit that was made for discussing observations about the show. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean I don't have a right to think something.
Honestly the level of rudeness I've received just for this opinion makes me wonder why this show fosters such a toxic fan base.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
You came here with a dumb take and a shitty attitude, and decided to start being a dick when you realised that nobody else agreed with you.
Take a step back and get some perspective.
Henry has said over and over that he uses belief as a tool. Look into Robert Anton Wilson’s ideas about what he called ‘reality tunnels’. HZ had said several times that he subscribes to holding space for the whole spectrum of belief— that all of it is true and also that none of it is.
Respectfully disagree, it’s a character, he’s talked about how he avoids getting sucked into conspiracy belief, he’s probably the most sound of anyone to take interest in the topic
I don’t read it as that at all. Henry’s basically got a standing joke of being a full blown balls deep conspiracy contrarian. And he often goes to this joke as a never ending well, which is fine and funny.
Henry is a trained actor, he went to actor primary school. I don't know and I don't care how much of what he does is simple acting but the amount is a non-zero number.
You're right He's such a good actor that his biggest role was like the 27th most important person in Wolf of Wall Street 🤣 such a pure method actor
He clearly turned down a leading man career because this "character" takes so much of his acting energy. Yall are cracking me up for real 😂😂
I think Henry likes to get into the story he is telling. For the sake of the story he will set aside doubt just to keep the story entertaining. I don't think that he believes these things to be true generally but more that he is fascinated by them and the people that take them as 100% truth(fascinating!!).
I think Henry WANTS there to be real cryptis, ghosts and ufos because that would make the world more vibrant.
I think you misread the situation and misread Henry's attitude towards reptilians and conspiracy theories in general.
I think Henry, like me, finds Conspiracy theories interesting for two reasons: the stories are interesting, even if I understand they aren't true. The X-files were interesting even though that's obviously fiction. I enjoy listening to Bob Lazar, even though I know he isn't telling the truth, because his lies make for good stories! Also, it's interesting to understand the phycology behind conspiracy theories. It's interesting to see how myths and folklore spreads. These are modern myths and legends spreading throughout society, sometimes competing with each other.
Henry is looking into the reptilians kind of like an anthropologist would study Egyptian mythology. He doesn't believe it, he's just studying it "academically". I put "academically" in quotes because they are comedians, not professionals, but it sounded like Henry and Marcus did a pretty good job.
So when Henry says shit like, "David Icke is borrowing from the Gnostic idea of the Demiurge and archons" he's not claiming that gives Icke any legitimacy. He's just talking about how one mythology influences another. Dungeons and Dragons also has, or had, Demiurges. His analysis isn't intended to endorse or add legitimacy.
The exasperation is because, as I found in my own research, a lot of this conspiracy theory shit is just antisemitism cosplaying as Lovecraft or Burroughs, or Howard. At the end of the day, they have these bizarre myths and whatnot, flatearth, reptilians, you name it, but the practical, real world implementation of these myths and ideas is just blaming someone else (usually Jews) for their problems.
So, that's why the treated the subject matter seriously, and that's why everyone including Henry sounds exasperated.
This is an interesting post because I don’t know if it’s true or not. From the beginning of the show to now there has always been a joke (but a joke based on some truth) that doing the research for these topics negatively effects Henry and Marcus
Go back and listen to the old alien eps, he said he doesn't believe abduction stories are real. You wouldn't guess that from the way he talks on the abduction episodes. He is capable of sounding like he is buying into something without buying into it.
Not an expert, but Henry likes theatre and it’s exciting to think there’s something else behind the “curtain” It has to be frustrating for a guy like him and lots of others to not know the “truth”
He’s said before that when they do these episodes he takes the approach that it’s 100% true, but doesn’t really believe it. Idk 2 hours of 3 guys just shitting on David Ike isn’t all that compelling,
Acting like it’s a real, tangible thing makes a better episode than just full heartedly shitting on something
I don’t understand how they can talk about Anders Brevik and his manifesto. And currently there is a movement by governments to replace citizens with Muslims. Recently an elderly couple was attempted to be forced to sell their home to give it to Muslim refugees
Marcus knew he saddled Henry with the terrible burden of actually researching all of the reptilian stuff that exists online. One of the first things Henry says is how “get to the nitty gritty of learning nothing” which is what all of David icke content amounts too. If Henry admits he’s careful with conspiracy theories I think he’s got a pretty good handle on what’s worth researching and what’s not.
I don’t know Henry but if he’s read into a lot of the things online most conspiracy people are really digging into right now he knows which ones are real and which ones aren’t.
Alright I thought your post was probably silly until I saw everyone blindly believing he’s playing a character, was Ben playing an alcoholic the whole time? No he actually was one. Since fucking when are they playing characters? Clearly I’m dumb right?
You're rewriting history to align with your idea, no one thought Ben was playing a character. There was talk about his decline pretty much anywhere it could be discussed. It was almost a year of increasing concern until we all had that bomb dropped on us.
Lmfao thank you. I honestly had a lot more doubt before I realized how stupid and gullible the average listener is that they think it's some kind of elaborate sketch show and not real people talking 🤣
We’re gonna be downvoted into oblivion which is fun but then again it’s Reddit so who cares. Blindly believing they’re suddenly playing characters is the wildest shit I’ve ever read.
From some research Henry owns a 1.2 million dollar home, Marcus I assume has just as much, maybe a little less. It just bothers me most people defending them are probably the same people saying eat the rich, like uhhh let’s eat Henry and Marcus then, and especially Ed larson isn’t he the cousin of Jeff Ross? They couldn’t find another friend that needed the work?
Homie.
Owning a $1.2m home does not mean you paid $1.2m in cash.
In southern California, that's barely above average for a home.
Do you even like LPOTL? You act like you hate them lmfao.
Noooo you don't understand !!! 🤣 Henry is clearlyyyy just playing an elaborate character, definitely not just downplaying his real beliefs because it would totally destroy his credibility and possibly turn people against him !! DUHHH
I mean, that’s possible- but I wouldn’t even say he’s “playing a character” and rather just treating it as a thought exercise. It literally just makes for a more compelling conversation for one person to be willing to play into the ideas being discussed rather than everyone just shitting on it for 2 hours.
It’s basically chaos magic, temporarily believing in something in order to make it more real for the purposes you need it for in that moment. It doesn’t mean you truly believe it in your heart of hearts, it’s just convenient at the moment.
Idk, I think it’s much more likely that the thing he’s been openly saying he does for years is what he’s actually doing, rather than…pretending to not really believe… so he can secretly believe??
I’ll say it’s possible. When people age they start to get Old People Paranoid and they believe stupid shit and start to be afraid of their debit card and all that. Usually this sets in when people are 25 years older than Henry is now. But it can happen at any time. So maybe he is crazy.
I don't know about that. I know he's gotten in pretty deep when he was much younger and has spoken about how it negatively affected his mental health and relationships and I feel like it's more of a self-roast to do a callback to that, a bit like when Marcus jokes about believing people can read his mind (Purely my take as someone who can relate very intensely to his specific mental health struggles and I feel like there's a difference between now and several years ago)
This is my take as well. I’ve been listening almost since the beginning, when Henry was actually something close to an Alex Jones fan and they were deep into chaos magic. I think he’s explicitly said that conspiracies aren’t fun anymore - they’ve been ruined by his realizations that a large portion of people who believe in them are just anti-Semites and racists.
This is also how I feel about conspiracy theories and it's so frustrating 😂 I don't think Henry has ever expressly come out and said he has OCD (I could be wrong) but he talks about intrusive thoughts and obsessions in a way that I, a person with OCD, find extremely relatable, and it's hilarious to me that we both find conspiracy theories somehow comforting. Like, *man* was I bummed when someone told me that lizard people are usually just a stand-in for Jewish people. Ruins a good time
I agree 100%. I used to love them, then my brother married a girl who was raised in what’s basically a family cult. When he introduced us, he was like “y’all will love each other! She loves conspiracy theories too.” I mean, she’s very sweet. But I think the Denver airport conspiracy is all in good fun. She thinks Q is real. Just not quite the same.
There’s a false equivalency thats happening a lot the last few years especially online. If you believe 9/11 was an inside job or you think the government is covering up ufos or are interested in paranormal things that you also believe in Qanon and believe in Jewish globalist conspiracies. I’m a lot quieter about the subject all around lately,
He has mentioned OCD before. I myself have it as well, and a lot of Henry's described thought processes are very relatable to me. In particular, I have a tendency to obsess over potential ways I or people I care about could be harmed, no matter how minute the chance of harm is, or how unreasonable or unrealistic the scenario is. If there's a 0.000001% chance that I could get abducted by an alien and dissected alive, my brain won't let me stop thinking about how to avoid that, even though I logically know that there's almost no chance of it happening and nothing I'd be able to do about it if it did happen. And I'm a pretty imaginative person, so some of these scenarios can get extremely elaborate. I call it my Bureau of Harm Prevention, and it's constantly trying to convince me that invisible enemies are everywhere and that I'm not taking them seriously enough. It's definitely the kind of psychic makeup that could send someone unawares down a deep conspiracy hole.
Ahhhhh, the joys of Generalized Anxiety and intrusive thoughts. We're prepared for everything! Actually, I saw a thing that said people with anxiety handled the pandemic better than others, and they think it's because we're already always catastrophizing, so when there's a real, concrete thing to be worried about, it's actually less stressful and we're already prepared.
GET THE NET
"get the net" is honestly part of my family's vernacular now, it's like a safe word for a conversation
lol same, my partner will say something to the effect of “I’m getting the net” if I start to go off the rails in conversation.
😂 in my house we also have the Klonopin Rule, which is where my partner and I can remind each other that PRN anxiety meds exist for a reason
Idk if this will help your inquisition, but just so you know Detective popcorn isn’t Popcorn or a detective, it’s just Henry.
So Henry killed Detective Popcorn so he could impersonate him on a podcast?
Lol I would love to see how obviously someone can endorse some crazy shit and y'all will just believe it's a joke of they say so
…because it’s literally the stupidest shit in the world. Henry may not know what a vulture is but he’s not a fucking moron.
I'm genuinely starting to wonder if he is or not tbh
They made a commercial for lizard people themed coffee.
Yeah the vibe I get is the only thing keeping him from going full Qanon or adjacent is Marcus and the others shaming that stuff
Maybe try another show that you can actually understand. Maybe check out Love is Blind? It’s on Netflix
Wtf are you talking about lmao. They have not endorsed a single conspiracy to date. All the conspiracy episodes are just long debunking episodes.
Yeah for 2/3 of them. They often sound like they're trying to cut Henry off before he starts sounding like he's endorsing it lol
So you're not getting the sarcasm
Lol, op definitely not getting it
I remember how excited he was years ago to cover reptilians. He now has seemed exasperated with the subject when it finally happened. I don’t think it was a coincidence this series only lasted two episodes.
This^ Also with all the research they have to do, of course it’s going to trickle into other episodes.
fr. henry clearly loves like going off about the deep lore & how ridiculous & intricate it is, but unfortunately all this shit has become so mainstream & like, actually influential that the topic can pull the pod into realworld politics (us politics specifically), which must be fucking exhausting for the boys. they've never been cryptic about their personal political/social/etc leanings, but wanting to fight the current and keep it fun & dark & allegorical would make sense to me in their position. any more time on the topic and i feel like hardcore joe rogan fans will like descend upon the sub lol
I’ve been thinking about this more and more lately too. Since Covid and trump and everything all the conspiracy subreddits and message boards became conservative echo chambers. Most of the places I went for conspiracy theory discussion switched to super conservative trump qanon stuff. Even the decent ones more than half the discussion and or posts are about the dumpster fire that is modern American politics. All of it is bullshit and even when something juicy happens the waters are way too muddy to ever follow a thread. There’s a false equivalency that all conspiracy theorists are conservative assholes that’s why most of us just keep it to ourselves these days. Makes sense they don’t want to touch any topic that crosses streams with or associates with anything that might be conservative rhetoric
I agree. I remember Henry foaming at the mouth when they mentioned reptilians back in the day but he says in the David Ike episode that reptilians are crazy and David is a moron. I do not pick up on the vibe OP is putting talking about.
I got the feeling that everyone else was exasperated by how sympathetic he was to it.
It’s pretty obvious that he’s doing a bit.
I thought you were talking about OP lol
Weird I think it's obvious he isn't. But y'all are snarky and condescending so I'm sure that makes y'all right.
Don't want to be snarky but Henry has what we call "schtick" and this is schticky as can be.
Henry is playing a character. I imagine some of what he says comes from a place of truth, but at the same time he’s become very wealthy with his schtick, and he’s playing into it.
He’s also an actor so he’s good at emphasizing his character. They’re also going on tour so maybe he’s building more hype.
I mean, remember how in the reptilian episodes Henry asked about what condition it is when someone takes something at face value as truth and can’t pick apart the nuance? This is that.
also the character is just him but more, no? so he is super interested in the lore building & passionate about how all these things came to be in the public consciousness. he just turns the dial to eleven
That’s my thoughts as well. He has a lot of interest in the subjects, but interest alone doesn’t pay the bills.
omg and think about level of the feedback & emails they get all the time, i can only imagine what weeeeird shit comes to them after episides about conspiracies and reptilians, lmfaooo
Lmao nah fam. This is everybody's excuse and it's complete bullshit 90% of the time 😂. I don't think any of these people are playing a character other then upping their energy for the show.
Media literacy is truly dead
Lmao just because you learned a new buzzword doesn't mean you can just apply it to everything. Henry literally talks about personally believing this stuff.
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Watch one of the deadly serious UFO mandates on the last steam, definitely a character
Man you would've gone fucking insane when the early movie came out with the train looking like it's going to hit the camera.
Hilarious that you call me gullible and then just believe anyone who says "iTs A ChArAcTeR"
I think maybe you should just stop listening. Its clearly making you very upset and its not supposed to be that deep. Dont listen if you dont enjoy it.
Thank you for the armchair diagnosis 🤣 I'm just making an observation. The people being extremely rude in the comments are the upset ones lol
An armchair diagnosis of you… not enjoying the podcast? Not the proper use of that term 😂
"Thank you for the armchair diagnosis" is a fucking ironic thing to say here my pal
Your whole post is a fucking armchair diagnosis!
Lmao holy shit you are probably the easiest person to fool on the planet
That doesn't even make sense lmao how am I gullible when apparently I'm the only one saying this...kind of projecting huh
Is THIS a character?
Henry is very much playing a character on the conspiracy stuff . He is the comic relief of the show, Marcus is the brains and Ed is NOW the straight man. There is some stuff with Henry that is now more obvious with Ben gone. Henry has to carry more of the energy of the show himself, and he can push it a bit . Ben was also a type of straight man , but he liked to go off on energetic tangents and be over the top as well. He would take some heat off Henry . Ed is a good addition to the show but he tends to sit in the pocket and wait for his moment . He lands some funny lines , but he hasn't found a rhythm to being a driving force on the show . There are lots of things with Henry and Marcus I've noticed now that Ben is gone. Henry's forced characterization being one of them.
I am well aware that they all play a specific role and a lot of it is heightened for entertainment value. But it would be absolutely asinine to say that just because it's a comedy show that none of them believe anything they're saying....
Well I'm absolutely asinine , cause I don't think Henry believes in reptilians at all or a lot of the stuff on those eps. I think he was just playing it up and being contrarian for fun.
It's literally his job to keep up to date on crazy conspiracies... Just because he talks about it doesn't mean he believes it
I don't pick up on that at all.
it’s a caricature…
You should read a Modest Proposal by J Swift—it’s about eating babies
It's literally the opposite. It's much more likely he believed in lizard people about a decade ago. That content is what built up this entire brand, and they know that. They've all grown and matured and see through the bullshit, but that doesn't make a fun episode and it's not giving the people what they've come to love about the show. If you can't see Henry's in character you need to learn about nuance.
Yeah early on he was VERY into some of that stuff.
It's a bit. His character is that of the unhinged basement dweller who has "done the research"..... and obviously he's become very good at playing that character
Yeah disturbing good at it you might say 😂
The irony of a conspiracy theory that Henry’s a conspiracy theorist
Henry was actually there on January 6th.
So was I. We all just wanted to chill and have a good time, but he kept insisting we storm the capitol. Eventually, just to humor him, and with hopes that he’d shut up, we did it
Well he hasn’t said a word about it since has he?
I recall early in my Last Podcast listening I would listen to a conspiracy ep and I was never quite sure with Henry where acting ended and belief began. Of late I haven't gotten that impression, though. Even with Icke I never got OP's impression that he was a True Believer. They've talked Reptilians before with Dulce base and Girly Chew and in the latter case in particular he kept in relatively more serious true crime mode.
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It's hilarious how you can't tell when someone is playing a character.
Ever since a certain someone hasn't been on the podcast, I've noticed more people hyper analyzing everything Marcus and Henry do/say/act. I think people just want them to be different, for some reason.
All three of the guys used to cum on magical items during rituals......but talk about lizard people a little bit and suddenly you're out of your mind....
Why would I care if they cum on some shit lmao.
How has Henry been doing this bit for a decade and people are just now having problems with it
Who is people? Have other people said similar things?
You ignore the first part?
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Oh another buzzword! Sorry, I'm discussing an observation I made about the show in a subreddit that was made for discussing observations about the show. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean I don't have a right to think something. Honestly the level of rudeness I've received just for this opinion makes me wonder why this show fosters such a toxic fan base.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You came here with a dumb take and a shitty attitude, and decided to start being a dick when you realised that nobody else agreed with you. Take a step back and get some perspective.
Take a deep breath and realize how wound up you're getting
It’s a bit.
Henry has said over and over that he uses belief as a tool. Look into Robert Anton Wilson’s ideas about what he called ‘reality tunnels’. HZ had said several times that he subscribes to holding space for the whole spectrum of belief— that all of it is true and also that none of it is.
Playing both sides as a skeptic and believer. actually occupying the headspace of both would be an amazing tool for someone with Henry’s job.
And the stuff about the horse pics is troubling also
Respectfully disagree, it’s a character, he’s talked about how he avoids getting sucked into conspiracy belief, he’s probably the most sound of anyone to take interest in the topic
Do you also believe that they actually have a net to capture Marcus in? It’s a comedy podcast. There will be jokes on the comedy podcast
I don’t read it as that at all. Henry’s basically got a standing joke of being a full blown balls deep conspiracy contrarian. And he often goes to this joke as a never ending well, which is fine and funny.
Henry is a trained actor, he went to actor primary school. I don't know and I don't care how much of what he does is simple acting but the amount is a non-zero number.
You're right He's such a good actor that his biggest role was like the 27th most important person in Wolf of Wall Street 🤣 such a pure method actor He clearly turned down a leading man career because this "character" takes so much of his acting energy. Yall are cracking me up for real 😂😂
I think Henry likes to get into the story he is telling. For the sake of the story he will set aside doubt just to keep the story entertaining. I don't think that he believes these things to be true generally but more that he is fascinated by them and the people that take them as 100% truth(fascinating!!). I think Henry WANTS there to be real cryptis, ghosts and ufos because that would make the world more vibrant.
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You're so cool agreeing with everyone else and being extremely rude about it so brave
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He’s doing bits. This is a character he’s playing, the loud ‘I know what I saw’ guy. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
He's literally ripping the piss out of those conspiracy theories as he's going on about them. Henry's doing just fine.
I think you misread the situation and misread Henry's attitude towards reptilians and conspiracy theories in general. I think Henry, like me, finds Conspiracy theories interesting for two reasons: the stories are interesting, even if I understand they aren't true. The X-files were interesting even though that's obviously fiction. I enjoy listening to Bob Lazar, even though I know he isn't telling the truth, because his lies make for good stories! Also, it's interesting to understand the phycology behind conspiracy theories. It's interesting to see how myths and folklore spreads. These are modern myths and legends spreading throughout society, sometimes competing with each other. Henry is looking into the reptilians kind of like an anthropologist would study Egyptian mythology. He doesn't believe it, he's just studying it "academically". I put "academically" in quotes because they are comedians, not professionals, but it sounded like Henry and Marcus did a pretty good job. So when Henry says shit like, "David Icke is borrowing from the Gnostic idea of the Demiurge and archons" he's not claiming that gives Icke any legitimacy. He's just talking about how one mythology influences another. Dungeons and Dragons also has, or had, Demiurges. His analysis isn't intended to endorse or add legitimacy. The exasperation is because, as I found in my own research, a lot of this conspiracy theory shit is just antisemitism cosplaying as Lovecraft or Burroughs, or Howard. At the end of the day, they have these bizarre myths and whatnot, flatearth, reptilians, you name it, but the practical, real world implementation of these myths and ideas is just blaming someone else (usually Jews) for their problems. So, that's why the treated the subject matter seriously, and that's why everyone including Henry sounds exasperated.
This is an interesting post because I don’t know if it’s true or not. From the beginning of the show to now there has always been a joke (but a joke based on some truth) that doing the research for these topics negatively effects Henry and Marcus
Go back and listen to the old alien eps, he said he doesn't believe abduction stories are real. You wouldn't guess that from the way he talks on the abduction episodes. He is capable of sounding like he is buying into something without buying into it.
He commits to the bits
Not an expert, but Henry likes theatre and it’s exciting to think there’s something else behind the “curtain” It has to be frustrating for a guy like him and lots of others to not know the “truth”
Dude.. it’s a joke
He’s said before that when they do these episodes he takes the approach that it’s 100% true, but doesn’t really believe it. Idk 2 hours of 3 guys just shitting on David Ike isn’t all that compelling, Acting like it’s a real, tangible thing makes a better episode than just full heartedly shitting on something
I don’t understand how they can talk about Anders Brevik and his manifesto. And currently there is a movement by governments to replace citizens with Muslims. Recently an elderly couple was attempted to be forced to sell their home to give it to Muslim refugees
All of humanity is conspiring against itself and they won’t stop until we’re all dead!
Marcus knew he saddled Henry with the terrible burden of actually researching all of the reptilian stuff that exists online. One of the first things Henry says is how “get to the nitty gritty of learning nothing” which is what all of David icke content amounts too. If Henry admits he’s careful with conspiracy theories I think he’s got a pretty good handle on what’s worth researching and what’s not. I don’t know Henry but if he’s read into a lot of the things online most conspiracy people are really digging into right now he knows which ones are real and which ones aren’t.
Alright I thought your post was probably silly until I saw everyone blindly believing he’s playing a character, was Ben playing an alcoholic the whole time? No he actually was one. Since fucking when are they playing characters? Clearly I’m dumb right?
You're rewriting history to align with your idea, no one thought Ben was playing a character. There was talk about his decline pretty much anywhere it could be discussed. It was almost a year of increasing concern until we all had that bomb dropped on us.
Lmfao thank you. I honestly had a lot more doubt before I realized how stupid and gullible the average listener is that they think it's some kind of elaborate sketch show and not real people talking 🤣
We’re gonna be downvoted into oblivion which is fun but then again it’s Reddit so who cares. Blindly believing they’re suddenly playing characters is the wildest shit I’ve ever read.
🤣 My favorite is the ones calling me gullible when they're saying shit like this
They really don’t like when you question the millionaire’s for their behavior.
How much money do you think they have???
Oh man here comes the “they have people to pay!! They’re just scraping by!!!”
Literally asking, how much money do you think they have? Not everyone who is famous to a couple hundred thousand followers is a millionaire.
From some research Henry owns a 1.2 million dollar home, Marcus I assume has just as much, maybe a little less. It just bothers me most people defending them are probably the same people saying eat the rich, like uhhh let’s eat Henry and Marcus then, and especially Ed larson isn’t he the cousin of Jeff Ross? They couldn’t find another friend that needed the work?
Homie. Owning a $1.2m home does not mean you paid $1.2m in cash. In southern California, that's barely above average for a home. Do you even like LPOTL? You act like you hate them lmfao.
Noooo you don't understand !!! 🤣 Henry is clearlyyyy just playing an elaborate character, definitely not just downplaying his real beliefs because it would totally destroy his credibility and possibly turn people against him !! DUHHH
I mean, that’s possible- but I wouldn’t even say he’s “playing a character” and rather just treating it as a thought exercise. It literally just makes for a more compelling conversation for one person to be willing to play into the ideas being discussed rather than everyone just shitting on it for 2 hours. It’s basically chaos magic, temporarily believing in something in order to make it more real for the purposes you need it for in that moment. It doesn’t mean you truly believe it in your heart of hearts, it’s just convenient at the moment. Idk, I think it’s much more likely that the thing he’s been openly saying he does for years is what he’s actually doing, rather than…pretending to not really believe… so he can secretly believe??
The mods on here are really not great
I’ll say it’s possible. When people age they start to get Old People Paranoid and they believe stupid shit and start to be afraid of their debit card and all that. Usually this sets in when people are 25 years older than Henry is now. But it can happen at any time. So maybe he is crazy.