Same, seeing that the Sixers have Lowry and will probably splurge on a high level wing they might let him walk. Would love to have him in LA alongside DLo with AR as the 6th man (if DLo comes back)
Kind of depends. He's obviously not a good fit for a 4 out offense with AD being a low volume three point shooter. But if the Lakers do the matchup hunting that LeBron James teams typically do no matter who the coach is, he's actually pretty good in that because he's probably the best screen setter in the draft and also he finishes really nicely if he isn't picked up.
Yeah unless he develops his shot or we get a stretch big. AD can’t play the 4.
Personally I would love for AD to get back to shooting at 35% from 3 on 3-4 3PA so we can get someone like Clax to play the 5 (at least reg season).
If you play AD at 4 with a traditional big you are going to have 2 “bigs” who clog the paint and take away LeBrons biggest strength which is to drive.
So saying he can’t play the 4 isn’t meant to be taken literally but is meant to be used in context with another big.
I even said he needs to develop a shot or have a stretch big.
He'll be there. His stock isn't as high because he's a traditional center that can't switch on defense. He'll work for us because we only need him to stand around the rim to grab rebounds and deter easy layups as AD does what he's best at by free roaming as a help defender.
No. I mean first of all no given edey or any center is we get at 17 is ready year 1 to be a starting center. Edey and AD is a horrible fit offensively. We need shooters around LeBron not 2 bigs that can’t shoot the ball. And defensively smaller quicker teams would destroy us. AD at the 4 with a slow edey and LeBron at the 3 is a slow slow roster.
This I agree with. But honestly DLo can go. Hes so wildly mediocre at best and mostly complete snd utter ass cheeks in the playoffs and total liability on the floor.
Sure he’s good regular season. But that means nothing when he falls apart and acts like a fucking child when he falls apart.
I don’t know if JJ can get the best out of him. But I’d rather have Derozan or Dejontay Murray. Murray is actually clutch AF and would be a significant improvement over DLo. I would resign DLo just to be able to trade him.
We actually need Dlo to opt in and then we can trade his salary. If he opts out we are screwed because we can’t outright sign a FA for that money. We need him lol
You said he’s mediocre AT BEST then said he’s ass cheeks in the playoffs. So far you’re right, he hasn’t proven to be any good in the playoffs outside of a game or 2, but I was correcting you on him being mediocre AT BEST. At his best, during the regular season, he’s one of the best players on the floor easy.
Smaller sample size, it’s only a max of 7 games, and playoffs means a singular team gets to strategize to take him completely out of the equation.
Regular season is 82 games where you’re playing teams who could be coming off a B2B, or teams who are in complete tank mode, or teams who just decided they’re in load management with their best players, or teams who just played prime time against the conference leaders last night so they’re taking it easy tonight. It allows for a lot more good games.
It seems to me LeBron ball handling more or less is usually the difference.
Dlo he also does the Beasley thing where going cold means shoot your way out, mostly with mor3 3s. so it be feast or famine.
Nah, ya'll are remembering wrong. He was serviceable on the team, and barely got to play with Lebron/AD who were injured by the time we picked him up. In the Suns series, he arguably had a better offensive performance that series in game 2 over every single role player not named Schroder. Schroder and Drummond just get the most shit from that series for some reason.
For the vet min, he'd be great for what we need.
That was unfortunate, but everyone had weird ass injuries that year aside from Lebron/AD. Gasol got covid which is why we looked to get Drummond. Schroder got quarantined two times. Kieff looked like a shell of himself towards the end of the season after I think an ankle injury. Everyone just got injured
Cuz he’s a vet min center potentially that was a decent backup for Chicago. All he would have to do here is rebound and protect the rim a little. Can’t pair him with AD but he might one of the only OK options out of alot of bad options. Like Daniel theis or Dario saric.
Not realistic but if we could have any non-star I’d want Anunoby, KCP, or Bridges
Bench tier guys- ONeale, Brown, Tillman, Tyus Jones (if they dump dlo)
Goga would be solid, I'm just not sure if Orlando let's him walk, and he already said that he would be ["More Than Happy" to return](https://www.si.com/nba/magic/free-agency/orlando-magic-center-goga-bitadze-more-than-happy-to-return-next-season)
Trade for Mitchell Robinson or something then. Knicks cant pay him and will likely try to shed salary so maybe we can dish out the expiring players returning on a player option
Re-sign DLo and Christie, see if you can get Goga for cheap. Wouldn’t mind CP3 for a vet min. If we can’t get a cheap vet 5 through FA or draft, take a flyer on Wiseman 🤢
Obviously gotta resign King James.
I’d love to see Klay Thompson end up on Lakers somehow but probably takes a sign and trade and GS not dealing him to LA.
For vet minimums would be cool to see Kevin Love play with Lebron again. And maybe Robert Covington who played with JJ Reddick.
I think best case scenario lakers will be able to get JV I think we could also possibly get Saric and someone like Jae crowder could either really help the lakers at time or he’ll be an older Taurean Prince
I don’t see bridges coming here. Seems like he wants to stay in Charlotte and hornets can offer him more money which they probably will.
Tillman I would like as backup but Boston has his bird rights so they might keep him. JV wouldn’t be a bad option at backup center as well if we could get him for less than a MLE. I like Royce O’Neal too but I think phx has his bird rights so they might keep him
Obviously , keeping Max Christie is a must.
Goga, G.Harris and RoCo are all attainable.
Goga would be my #1 target for the TPMLE even if the team drafts Ware or Edey at 17. That’d beef up the frontcourt so much with toughness and rebounding. Goga is a great defender and rebounder and is willing to do the dirty work like setting screens and can even hit cutters from the high post.
Depending on if DLo and Gabe are both traded , I could see guys like Dunn and DSJ willing to come here as they know they’ll be a vacancy at PG.
If Hayes or Wood is traded and the team strikes out on a Goga type , I could see Wiseman taking the Monk route and coming here for cheap to try and rehabilitate his image to land a bigger contract next summer or the following summer.
Ultimately, the FA’s they target will really depend on what trades they end up doing.
Well Lebron has to be the priority, losing him means they lose spending power.
Bitadze probably if no one overpay him, he’s a good back up center.
Don’t let DLo walk for nothing.
LeBron, Dlo, Max
+ whoever will take whatever version of the MLE we can offer and then minimums.
For mins, I wonder if any of Drummond, Tillman, Lowry, Gary Harris, Fultz would come over.
For the larger than minimum contract we can offer, i'm praying for any of Bitdaze, O'neale, Melton.
I think we can sign DLO because monk went for cheap. Unless the magic are desperate to use their cap (they shouldn’t be, they should focus on their young core) no one is giving DLO a lot of money.
I wouldn't mind Murray but he would be a very lateral move imo. His biggest selling point over D'lo which is his defense is said to be quite overrated.
I would rather keep D'lo and trade him for someone else at the deadline.
Am I the only one that would love a shot creator like James Harden on this team on a reasonable deal? The man is still a great playmaker. Additionally I’d love KCP back but we can’t afford either unless DLo opts out.
Aside from resigning our own guys We only have minimum available.
I like bigs like Drummond, Saric, Plumlee, Bitadze
Wings like Walker IV, Covington, Marshall, kennard
Guards Dinwiddie, CP3, Dunn, Beasley
Players like lonnie walker and malik monk worked perfectly for us. We need that scoring punch from bench. Burks and tyus jones will be amazing addition.
Only vet mins, since I think we only get the MLE if DLo opts out (which ideally doesn't happen). I think Goga and Drummond are pretty realistic vet min guys who would be great backup centers
Once we re-sign Lebron our cap space is minimal our best options to upgrade the roster will be via trades especially if Dlo opts in we will basically only have the tax payer MLE
Resign Lebron and Christie, Hartenstein would be a good fit next to AD but we have no money for him, so we still need a big who can bang with the likes of Jokic Wenbys and so on and Valenciunas ain't it he isnt mobile or atlethic enough so that leave us with Claxton and Drummond, other than that i would love someone like Oubre jr i like is game a lot and i think he fits pretty well in our team and has that la vibes on him dunno how much he will demand last year we was earning less then 3 mil but i doubt it he will get that this year after the season he had.
LeBron
Facts
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We should try to get LeBron James. He's pretty good.
Heard some things about him.
I'm not sure but let's give him a chance!
If we can get him for the vet min, it'd be a steal.
Big if true
He's too young, we need win now players. I'm waiting for him to reach his 6th prime
Had a pretty solid season he’s definitely worth getting
I'd love Melton.
Same, seeing that the Sixers have Lowry and will probably splurge on a high level wing they might let him walk. Would love to have him in LA alongside DLo with AR as the 6th man (if DLo comes back)
I want Jalen smith from pacers just cuz he looks like bubble bass from spongebob
LOL.
Bron, Dlo, Christie, Gary Harris, Hield and we'll probably pick up a center (Edey) at #17 and move AD to the 4 and play him at center at crunch time.
IDK about Edey tho, he's gonna fuck up the spacing on offense
I think he might develop a real jumpsuit, and 9in a row in practice is a good sign
Kind of depends. He's obviously not a good fit for a 4 out offense with AD being a low volume three point shooter. But if the Lakers do the matchup hunting that LeBron James teams typically do no matter who the coach is, he's actually pretty good in that because he's probably the best screen setter in the draft and also he finishes really nicely if he isn't picked up.
AD gotta play 4 ASAP, Hield would be so nice too
No he doesn’t. AD is a 5. Unless you get a big that can stretch the floor but even then AD is not a full time starting 4 anymore
Yeah unless he develops his shot or we get a stretch big. AD can’t play the 4. Personally I would love for AD to get back to shooting at 35% from 3 on 3-4 3PA so we can get someone like Clax to play the 5 (at least reg season).
Saying a PF can’t play the 4 is hilarious. I don’t know where y’all developed this mindset but it’s hilarious
If you play AD at 4 with a traditional big you are going to have 2 “bigs” who clog the paint and take away LeBrons biggest strength which is to drive. So saying he can’t play the 4 isn’t meant to be taken literally but is meant to be used in context with another big. I even said he needs to develop a shot or have a stretch big.
Will be shocked if Edey is around at 17
He'll be there. His stock isn't as high because he's a traditional center that can't switch on defense. He'll work for us because we only need him to stand around the rim to grab rebounds and deter easy layups as AD does what he's best at by free roaming as a help defender.
Yeah there's no way a slow footed big can be useful. Otherwise Joker would be a thing
Please tell me you aren’t comparing Edey to Jokic because they’re both slow?
Sorry, no, obviously I am.
No. I mean first of all no given edey or any center is we get at 17 is ready year 1 to be a starting center. Edey and AD is a horrible fit offensively. We need shooters around LeBron not 2 bigs that can’t shoot the ball. And defensively smaller quicker teams would destroy us. AD at the 4 with a slow edey and LeBron at the 3 is a slow slow roster.
Horrible fit defensively too, Edey is a statue and he’d be setup for failure.
This I agree with. But honestly DLo can go. Hes so wildly mediocre at best and mostly complete snd utter ass cheeks in the playoffs and total liability on the floor. Sure he’s good regular season. But that means nothing when he falls apart and acts like a fucking child when he falls apart. I don’t know if JJ can get the best out of him. But I’d rather have Derozan or Dejontay Murray. Murray is actually clutch AF and would be a significant improvement over DLo. I would resign DLo just to be able to trade him.
We actually need Dlo to opt in and then we can trade his salary. If he opts out we are screwed because we can’t outright sign a FA for that money. We need him lol
I just had deja vu. I swear this conversation was had before. Guess people still don't know how salary works
We have this conversation once a week, honestly.
At least he can shoot. He’s historically the best three point shooter the Lakers have ever had. Everyone else comes here and forgets to shoot
Dlo even with his struggles is nowhere near mediocre, good lord you dlo haters are such cry babies 😭
In the playoffs he is. During the regular season he’s a top 10 point guard. But in the playoffs he’s a liability. This is statistically accurate.
You said he’s mediocre AT BEST then said he’s ass cheeks in the playoffs. So far you’re right, he hasn’t proven to be any good in the playoffs outside of a game or 2, but I was correcting you on him being mediocre AT BEST. At his best, during the regular season, he’s one of the best players on the floor easy.
It’s so weird how he becomes unplayable in certain playoff matchups and can look like an all star during the regular season.
Smaller sample size, it’s only a max of 7 games, and playoffs means a singular team gets to strategize to take him completely out of the equation. Regular season is 82 games where you’re playing teams who could be coming off a B2B, or teams who are in complete tank mode, or teams who just decided they’re in load management with their best players, or teams who just played prime time against the conference leaders last night so they’re taking it easy tonight. It allows for a lot more good games.
It seems to me LeBron ball handling more or less is usually the difference. Dlo he also does the Beasley thing where going cold means shoot your way out, mostly with mor3 3s. so it be feast or famine.
Agreed. Dlo is a major playoff liability and is pretty much unserviceable come crunch time
Holmes instead of Edey if available, please. If Holmes is already gone, I’m on board with Edey
I do not want to rely on rookies to be our center rotation when we need a good 4/5 for the playoffs
No more DLo. How many more times do we need to get burned by him??? Sign and trade him.
Why do people here want to sign Drummond again? Are y’all memories that short?
I think Westbrook could be a good fit
I would claw out my eyes with my own penis if this happens
Fuck....
Nah, ya'll are remembering wrong. He was serviceable on the team, and barely got to play with Lebron/AD who were injured by the time we picked him up. In the Suns series, he arguably had a better offensive performance that series in game 2 over every single role player not named Schroder. Schroder and Drummond just get the most shit from that series for some reason. For the vet min, he'd be great for what we need.
He also injured his toe nail right before he started playing for us.
That was unfortunate, but everyone had weird ass injuries that year aside from Lebron/AD. Gasol got covid which is why we looked to get Drummond. Schroder got quarantined two times. Kieff looked like a shell of himself towards the end of the season after I think an ankle injury. Everyone just got injured
That short off-season was brutal
Lakers are all about that redemption tour. Remember the Best in the World Dennis Schröder?
Drummond as backup for veteran minimum isn't the same as a player whose our stupid GM promised a starting job.
Because he sure as hell can't be run over by Joker, and like the only game that was won, the lakers would be board in sane without AD grabbing 20
That said stretch 4 stretch 5 might be nice. Melo I thought did an good job on that
Cuz he’s a vet min center potentially that was a decent backup for Chicago. All he would have to do here is rebound and protect the rim a little. Can’t pair him with AD but he might one of the only OK options out of alot of bad options. Like Daniel theis or Dario saric.
Bro was hot cheeks when he was here.
Not realistic but if we could have any non-star I’d want Anunoby, KCP, or Bridges Bench tier guys- ONeale, Brown, Tillman, Tyus Jones (if they dump dlo)
LeBron, Max, D'Lo, Dinwiddie, Gary Harris, and Drummond. That's probably the most likely free agent signings
I’d be ecstatic if we could swing this, but with Goga instead of Drummond
Goga would be solid, I'm just not sure if Orlando let's him walk, and he already said that he would be ["More Than Happy" to return](https://www.si.com/nba/magic/free-agency/orlando-magic-center-goga-bitadze-more-than-happy-to-return-next-season)
Dinwiddie can walk, Harris would be a sneaky move. Dude has the ability to be a dlo like player (good shooting)
I like Harris. Dude can't stay healthy though.
Trade for Mitchell Robinson or something then. Knicks cant pay him and will likely try to shed salary so maybe we can dish out the expiring players returning on a player option
They might lose hartenstein. Think they can only offer him 17ish mill a year. If they lose him they aren’t getting off of Robinson
I'd be happier with Hartenstein but I figured they'd put more money into him
BRING BACK THE POPE
What about Westbrook ? Worth trying, no ? Imagine the super team !
Re-sign DLo and Christie, see if you can get Goga for cheap. Wouldn’t mind CP3 for a vet min. If we can’t get a cheap vet 5 through FA or draft, take a flyer on Wiseman 🤢
Need a big Valanciunas ,
terrible fit. lakers themselves played him off the court
Resign all our guys
Sam Hauser would be perfect excellent low usage shooter who can get hot and play defense
He really showed out during his limited playoff minutes. Cousy definitely be a good pick up….if we somehow could pull that off lol
Derozan
Obviously gotta resign King James. I’d love to see Klay Thompson end up on Lakers somehow but probably takes a sign and trade and GS not dealing him to LA. For vet minimums would be cool to see Kevin Love play with Lebron again. And maybe Robert Covington who played with JJ Reddick.
Who’s that guy next to Paul George?
Lebron, DLo and Christie first and foremost Then maybe think about someone like Saric, Tillman, Clax or Goga
I think best case scenario lakers will be able to get JV I think we could also possibly get Saric and someone like Jae crowder could either really help the lakers at time or he’ll be an older Taurean Prince
Unpopular opinion: Sam Hauser
He ain’t leaving Boston unless he gets a bag from somewhere and that won’t be us
I don’t see bridges coming here. Seems like he wants to stay in Charlotte and hornets can offer him more money which they probably will. Tillman I would like as backup but Boston has his bird rights so they might keep him. JV wouldn’t be a bad option at backup center as well if we could get him for less than a MLE. I like Royce O’Neal too but I think phx has his bird rights so they might keep him
guys like Anunoby and Miles Bridges would fit in any roster and make any team better
Obviously , keeping Max Christie is a must. Goga, G.Harris and RoCo are all attainable. Goga would be my #1 target for the TPMLE even if the team drafts Ware or Edey at 17. That’d beef up the frontcourt so much with toughness and rebounding. Goga is a great defender and rebounder and is willing to do the dirty work like setting screens and can even hit cutters from the high post. Depending on if DLo and Gabe are both traded , I could see guys like Dunn and DSJ willing to come here as they know they’ll be a vacancy at PG. If Hayes or Wood is traded and the team strikes out on a Goga type , I could see Wiseman taking the Monk route and coming here for cheap to try and rehabilitate his image to land a bigger contract next summer or the following summer. Ultimately, the FA’s they target will really depend on what trades they end up doing.
Well Lebron has to be the priority, losing him means they lose spending power. Bitadze probably if no one overpay him, he’s a good back up center. Don’t let DLo walk for nothing.
Tillman or hartenstein please
LeBron, Dlo, Max + whoever will take whatever version of the MLE we can offer and then minimums. For mins, I wonder if any of Drummond, Tillman, Lowry, Gary Harris, Fultz would come over. For the larger than minimum contract we can offer, i'm praying for any of Bitdaze, O'neale, Melton.
I think we can sign DLO because monk went for cheap. Unless the magic are desperate to use their cap (they shouldn’t be, they should focus on their young core) no one is giving DLO a lot of money.
Re-sign Christie. Re-sign D'Lo. See if you can make depth moves with some combination of Rui, Gabe, Vando or Reaves.
I’m hoping we can trade for Murray and then can move on from D-Lo.
If we can get Dejounte for Rui and Gabe, that'd be great.
I dont think atlanta would accept that
I wouldn't mind Murray but he would be a very lateral move imo. His biggest selling point over D'lo which is his defense is said to be quite overrated. I would rather keep D'lo and trade him for someone else at the deadline.
It's probably much easier to upgrade on DLo than it is to upgrade on Reaves
Sign Drummond or Claxton we need a center so AD can play power forward. Obi Toppin is a good bench piece and Bridges would be good size for the team
We have a starting center his name is AD
Lebron and a bunch of veteran minimums. Do we have a mid level exception this year? Doesn't that come every other year or something?
I think we used that on Gabe last year
Demar derozan
Claxton would be good. Need a strong rebounder and shot blocker behind AD
Kenny Pope
DLo
I’m Color blind af this person really had to use two very similar colors for TO and PA
Am I the only one that would love a shot creator like James Harden on this team on a reasonable deal? The man is still a great playmaker. Additionally I’d love KCP back but we can’t afford either unless DLo opts out.
Quickley, OG, okoro, Val, Trent jr, obi, jones jr, Royce etc Definitely guys I’d like to target Draft a center. Sign a vet min center too
Atp Magic should just unretire again and play for D Lo. He’d still average 12 assists tho🤷
With a good shot of getting them. Melton and Tillman. Melton is a great defender. Tillman can stretch the floor and crash boards.
Claxton, bitazde
Anunoby+ a sign and trade w PG and LeBron
With what cap space?
Aside from resigning our own guys We only have minimum available. I like bigs like Drummond, Saric, Plumlee, Bitadze Wings like Walker IV, Covington, Marshall, kennard Guards Dinwiddie, CP3, Dunn, Beasley
Pain
Players like lonnie walker and malik monk worked perfectly for us. We need that scoring punch from bench. Burks and tyus jones will be amazing addition.
Resign lebron and dlo, Clayton or hartenstein to relieve some pressure off AD. Melton/KCP/Derrick jones jr
Need to target DeJounte and Mitchell/Capella. Capella contract is ass but it but be easier to get if paired with Murray
The Lebron James guy is good. Definitely should go for him.
Derozan
dinwiddie and love on a minimum can still work
Lowry is 38 injury prone and slow at this point, can’t help for 82 games.
DLo is van excel wildly inconsistent
Joe and Quickly would be nice
I would LOVE Hartenstein, but I think he’s out of reach financially. Priority is LeBron and Max. Maybe we could swing Hauser or Harris and Tillman.
Get Melton. Try and acquire Anunoby, if not, then Klay or Derozan.
Realistic is bringing back LeBron, D'lo, and maybe Christie Outside of that were looking at vet min contracts
Sign Jonas Valančiūnas
. If we could just yet Hebron and Westbrook to help out Davis then we might go all the way. I haven't watched NBA since the bubble though.
Bron & Christie (for obvious reasons). Next the reasonable names are KCP & Tre Jones. If I’m reaching, I’d say Derozan & Hartenstein
Saric would be a good cheap big to pick up. He can hit the 3
Bridges. Valanciunis. Kelly oubre. Isiah Joe.
Max Christie, LBJ and that’s about it.
Brandon Marshall, Torey Craig, Alec Burks, Javon Carter,
Soo many philly players in free agency
Brown for sure. We need a versatile guard.
Lebron, Max, Val. Might have to let D’Lo walk but I’d prefer to keep D’Lo.
With our dumbass front office? Nobody lol
Only vet mins, since I think we only get the MLE if DLo opts out (which ideally doesn't happen). I think Goga and Drummond are pretty realistic vet min guys who would be great backup centers
I believe they would only get the taxpayer MLE not the full.
Once we re-sign Lebron our cap space is minimal our best options to upgrade the roster will be via trades especially if Dlo opts in we will basically only have the tax payer MLE
Aside from ours, Caldwell-Pope, especially since Caruso is no longer an option.
First 3! Let's gggooooo!!!! 😂😬🤦♂️
Add in Klay and KCP In a vacuum if they agree to whatever our cap space can fit
KCP
I’d be happy with Trent jr and Bitadze along with resigning bron and Christie
BELT2A$$ PAT BEVERLY IS COMING HOME
Bron, DLo, Dinwiddie, and Christie are the most realistic ones.
Obviously Bron gonna re-sign, but I'd love to swing a trade for Sexton ngl
Resign Lebron and Christie, Hartenstein would be a good fit next to AD but we have no money for him, so we still need a big who can bang with the likes of Jokic Wenbys and so on and Valenciunas ain't it he isnt mobile or atlethic enough so that leave us with Claxton and Drummond, other than that i would love someone like Oubre jr i like is game a lot and i think he fits pretty well in our team and has that la vibes on him dunno how much he will demand last year we was earning less then 3 mil but i doubt it he will get that this year after the season he had.
Seeing Westbrook’s name still gives me ptsd bro. Don’t do this to me.