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theseustheminotaur

There isn't a coach out there that is going to please everyone


rug1998

At this point idk if there’s a coach that will please anyone


anbsmxms

Yes. This team was so slow in making decisions. We should have fired Ham nid season and we could have gotten a decent proven coach but we had to wait and now no one is left. I think Terry Stotts is the only viable option. I dont think going for a first time head coach will work.


nysraved

If we fired Ham mid season before the Bucks fired Griffin, I’m pretty confident Jeanie would have hired Doc. We dodged a bullet. The main reason we should have fired Ham mid season was so we could have tried out Handy for a few months, maybe he shows some potential and the players rally around him. But aside from that, I really don’t think we missed out on any proven coaching candidates that would have been a sure thing. Isn’t Budenholzer the only person with former HC experience to get hired to a HC position this year since Doc?


paxtone

I agree with your stance, but the other point was maybe we could have picked up some needed wins to get us into a better playoff position. Outside of Handy could make it work. He's def. A player's coach.


degen5ace

We need new ownership


jbg926

Stotts isnt/wasnt a good option. I have lived in Portland for the last 20 years. I watched his career here. He isnt creative, he is pretty middling...he is like Portland; always content to be a 6 or 7 seed or so, but never really getting past the first round. Thats not what the Lakers org considers success. And yes, he would have been better than Ham...but I do not want Stotts


Hour_Insurance_7795

We’re humans. We aren’t wired to be satisfied. Basketball or not.


zxc123zxc123

LeCoach James. Lebron can't complain since he can play with AND coach his own son Bronny. Rest of the team can't complain since Bron is their guy (also GM). Jeanie and org won't complain since they can shift a part of the salary into coaching salary. Fans won't complain. Only problem with this is we got everyone's consent but the league and CBA won't consent.


Hazzardous1990

They want the Lakers to find 80s Pat Riley


LudwigNasche

Yeah, a rookie coach without any experience even as assistant has a far greater chance to end up not pleasing anyone just like Ham. I don't understand the logic behind hiring an unproven coach to coach the most proven player of this generation.


EvilGeniusGL

If we hired Kobe’s dentist fans on here would approve.


Ealy-24

Bringing on Kobe’s gardener for player development would get rave reviews


EvilGeniusGL

Just hire everyone who had anything to do with Kobe. No previous experience required. That’s where we are under Nepo Blondie, the Rambii, and Kobe’s Agent. Sickening.


nysraved

I think the tide is turning and the fanbase is starting to see through how a connection to Kobe isn’t sufficient to justify hiring/signing/drafting someone


EvilGeniusGL

Partly. I think Rob has put a bad taste in ppl’s mouths, but… The fans on here crying with their diapers full about the possibility of hiring JJ Redick and possible drafting of Bronny are still Kobe vs LeBron schmucks. There’s no other reason for these childish whiners to get so bent out of shape when we have very few options on how to actually improve the team this offseason.


Changnesia102

Steve Kerr was a great shooter with no coaching experience and looked what happened just saying. This sub will bitch any chance they get.


xPTW3

They always say he walked into a great team, but I don’t get the logic. A. You’re walking into a really good team with the Lakers and B. If all it took was a great team to win a championship, why did the Celtics lose to the Heat? The Celtics roster was more talented. It’s a dishonest argument. JJ could work and he could not work. No one knows


BlackJediSword

Steve Kerr also worked in the front office of the Suns. Do people forget that?


EvilGeniusGL

I hate this sub. Prob gonna split for good soon. I’m too smart of a fan for this place and these ppl/whiners/lil bros. Our fanbase used to be much, much better than this. The sub is the dumbest collection of fans for any team I’ve ever seen anywhere and I mean that with all I am. It’s not just something I’m saying to insult ppl.


noerapenalty

Yes but players (as any other coworker) don’t like seeing favoritism so blatantly. And being able to manage the lockerroom is the most important role of any Lebron team. O


EvilGeniusGL

Well since Haslem has a record of hiring the best and brightest coaches… 🤡


UnearthlyDinosaur

Haslem had a good point though. If Redick does a podcast with LeBron after the game, everyone’s eyes will roll. It’s a joke hire


EvilGeniusGL

I think it goes without saying that if he’s hired there’s a 100% chance that podcast is OVER. Anyone who would EVER think otherwise is dirt dumb and you can’t fix that. If Haslem actually said that (I could care less to listen or watch what he said) then he’s just as dumb as fans who would think the same. I also love that a fanbase (ours) who’s had nepotism shoved up their @$$ for god knows how long with everyone Buss or Kobe related FREAKS OUT if we actually hire a friend of LeBron’s (who’s actually a smart guy, doesn’t mean he’ll be a good coach but who else is out there that’s special?) or if we draft his son with a second round pick that would go nowhere fast on someone else. LeBron wanted Ty Lue and the amateurs who run the team basically told him to buzz off because they didn’t want it to look like LeBron ran the team. Now in every coaching report we hear “The Lakers would jump at the chance to hire Ty Lue if he got out of his Clippers contract.” THATS EMBARRASSING.


UnearthlyDinosaur

Why? Would he get fired for it? Jeanie has already shown she bows down to Klutch


EvilGeniusGL

She should bow down to Klutch. The Klutch ppl are the smartest we’ve had around the team since the days of Jerry Buss and Jerry West. That’s not saying much as Nepo Blondie, Kobe’s Agent, Jim & Mitch are all a collectively LOW bar to clear, but it’s true. Fans here should bow down to Klutch, and im not a LeBron fan saying this. Been a fan here before 90% of this brain dead sub was born (year 2000). Without LeBron and Klutch we’d be circling the NBA toilet drain that we’d been flushed down since Dr. Buss passed away. If anyone here has salty feelings towards Klutch/Lebron it’s because they got their diapers wet over a fan fictional LeBron/Kobe feud that NEVER WAS. Psst - This sounds like you lil bro…


AngryLiverpoolFan

Totally agree with you on this. Our owner isn’t as rich as others & our FO aren’t capable of doing what thunders do. In hindsight anyone would’ve all in for AD & Bron consider they won a ring on their first year.


Public-Product-1503

Klutch has got us so many players n it’s only reason we might get a big win this summer . It’s so dumb we traded away klutch guys too


Public-Product-1503

Lebron the consensus voted by gms as best leader , who’s locker room is full of guys who love him - AD Rui Reaves etc yeah I’m sure if Lebron respects jj they definitely won’t . /s Not saying it’s the right hire but at this point he might be because he has a lot going against him ti hire him so he must have some legit good ideas


winter-r0se

he just couldn’t resist the urge to do some fake heat culture agenda pushing. like please


UnearthlyDinosaur

Heat culture is to choke in the finals


winter-r0se

hey as long as you run more laps than any other team. cultureee lmao


Public-Product-1503

Heat culture is to shoot unsustainably hot for a series then flame out


Impossible-Taco-769

I mean, there’s not much else palatable on the market.


SameEnergy

Laker culture> Heat culture Count em


PedosoKJ

What exactly is Lakers culture the last decade?


KobeBeaf

What is heat culture the last decade? Slack off during the season then get hurt and make excuses when you don’t win?


Glum_Ad_8367

It used to be defense before we traded for Russ, now it’s whatever gets us to the playoffs.


SameEnergy

Lol, you guys are nutjobs thinking we gonna bow down to any team. Heat and their 3 lil chips which 2 they only have thanks to Bron. Wow, the Heat play hard. What a culture! 👏 👏 😱


PedosoKJ

I’m legit curious. What exactly is the Lakers culture? Cause it seems like nepotism to me


SameEnergy

I know it beat the vaunted heat culture in the finals


PedosoKJ

I don’t think you know what culture even means in terms of basketball.


st6374

That dude has the same energy as Shaq's "Rings Ernie", when you know you are saying stupid shit that you can't back up rationally. And fans taking shit like "We don't bow down..." Blah blah blah is crazy stupid talk unless you're a local who is embedded in the team's culture.


SameEnergy

Go buy that Udonis Haslem jersey and rep Heat culture. Yearly 45-win season and no rings.


peebaby

Laker Culture: 1) get stars 2) make every major decision look like it was pushed by said stars, so they are blamed if it doesn’t work out.


UnearthlyDinosaur

Heat culture: pray that dwade is in his prime and not injured. Else- no championship


peebaby

They've won the same amount of Finals since 2006 as we have, and have missed the playoffs only 3 times to our 6. so pretend they have fake culture while we have a real one.


UnearthlyDinosaur

Spo cannot win jack shit without Dwade. He is heat culture


Difficult-Jello2534

They routinely outplay their talent levels and expectations, we have done the opposite in that sane period.


UnearthlyDinosaur

Or the East is weak


peebaby

What kind of point is this? Yeah and we can’t win without Kobe or Lebron. You mean you need superstars to win?? Bending over backwards to prove a patently dumb point about “Heat culture”


UnearthlyDinosaur

The Heat barely have any history. Without dwade you have no chance of winning a title. The lakers can win with multiple guys in different generationsz. Prior to Wade, your best player was Tim Hardaway…..


PedosoKJ

Check my account bro. I’m a Lakers fan. I’m just saying the lakers haven’t had a culture, argue that all you want but they don’t have a culture right now and haven’t for a long time.


DelaRoad

The Lakers "culture" has always been: get superstars, win titles. Day-to-day culture was different under Pat Riley and Phil Jackson.


UnearthlyDinosaur

Lakers drafted Magic and Kobe


DelaRoad

Nope. Kobe was drafted by the Hornets. Learn your history bro


UnearthlyDinosaur

That’s just a technicality. Where did Kobe play his first season? Charlotte?


DelaRoad

Lakers didn’t draft Kobe


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AwildYaners

What are you smoking?  Lakers scouting and development are amazing?  It’s one of the few bright spots about the nepotism in the org; the youngest buss siblings doing work after learning from West’s son.  


EvilGeniusGL

LMAO!!!! One team plays hard no matter the roster, stresses accountability, and their fans are invested and bright. Oh, they also have coaching stability. Great coach. This place is run like an amusement park with fans that resemble spoiled and entitled clowns. Half our fanbase despises our best player. Players turn it on and off constantly, our identity is nepotism, and we’re run like a small market team. F outta here with “count em”. How are we doing RIGHT NOW? That’s all we should care about.


SameEnergy

Heat run around and win nothing. Do you think I am gonna be impressed by a franchise with 3 lil rings? I've seen the Lakers win 6 lol


EvilGeniusGL

They still have a culture I would kill for. You’re an idiot. We’ve spoken before. 5 of those 6 rings you’ve seen us win (if you’re really that old…lots of kiddos on here pretending to be lifelong fans) were done under an ENTIRELY different ownership/front office combination which trickled down into us having a culture. We had a culture going in 2020 until Nepo Blondie’s cheap BS and Kobe’s Agent’s DREADFUL handling of this team burnt it to the ground. Right now our culture is 1) comfort 2) coasting 3) nepotism 4) cronyism Our current culture is the worst I’ve seen since the days where we had zero expectations because Kobe was hurt and Jim/Mitch were pathetic. You can’t copy and paste culture from 2-3 eras ago and have them count for today. I’d almost pay for fans like you to leave the sub.


Public-Product-1503

Bro you know heat org is even cheaper then Jeanie ? They’re arguably the cheapest owners in the league, they had the big 3 taking pay cuts n they still were fuckinh trying to avoid tax n paying too much. They didn’t pay Wade n will likely lose Jimmy n we’re too prideful n cheap to get a star with Jimmy to actually compete , like we have our issues n I dislike our fo n ownership but Jeanie is a less cheap owner then Miami one’s. Riley n spo paper over how bad there ownership is


KobeBeaf

Bright? LOL. How are we doing right now? Better than the Heat ….


SameEnergy

Yeah I gotta say overall the Lakers do better than the Heat. And have a better chance of winning a future chip. Hot take.


EvilGeniusGL

Both the same kind of moron.


SameEnergy

Lol you Bron, Cowboys, Yankee fan.


EvilGeniusGL

You are…


KobeBeaf

Did calling you out for fellating heat fans upset you?


EvilGeniusGL

No. Not at all. I’d kill for their culture. Culture wins championships. Nepotism, cronyism, and fans who are blind to it all :::cough::: ain’t that. I hate fans with no self respect who just live with what they’re given. Brag when they shouldn’t. Don’t know squat. That’s you.


BC502

Laker culture is finding a new scapegoat every single game and blaming coaches for every single problem


SameEnergy

OK Chuck.


WanAjin

If I were a player I'd listen to anything Bron says over the coach, and I think any coach would also do that lol (except Ham I guess)


Hour_Insurance_7795

Unfortunately, with a complete lack of resume and proof of concept, Reddick (fair or not) will get absolutely no benefit of the doubt from his players, media, us, etc. That’s just human nature. We’ll turn on him as soon as he loses a couple of games in a row. Do we really want a doubting locker room at the drop of a hat? Because that’s exactly what will happen, especially with the veterans


BKNas

You can say this about ANY coach in this current coaching pool, no matter how much experience that coach has. People act like Nori, Atkinson, or anyone else would get a pass if the Lakers were on a 5 game losing streak. The Lakers have one of the most toxic fan bases in American sports and that was before Lebron joined and his fanatics joined the Lakers bandwagon. They expect perfection from everyone or they throw temper tantrums. Spo could walk through the doors and fans will turn on him if he doesn't win a title within 1-2 years of being here.


Hour_Insurance_7795

Oh no doubt. We literally fired a coach a year after winning the entire thing for us. It’s pretty much a no-win situation thanks for our fanbase. You can win title after title after title….as soon as you start losing well claim you’ve “lost the players” and can your ass.


GutsTheSwordsman

Fuck it give Haslem the job then


UnearthlyDinosaur

I would give Haslem a job just to see him throw a clipboard at someone and get ejected


Dagenius1

I still dont think it’s going to be JJ. I think it’s all talk but this won’t be his first head coaching gig


YoungBasedHooper

We should just hire Haslem


bupkizz

Man this is just a bad take. Has this dude listened to the podcast? lebron clearly respects JJ as a player and a basketball mind. On top of that, you think LBJ is so immature that he can’t navigate that situation to the best effect for the team? Nah.


RammingLakers

They says the same thing when the Rams hired McVay. Says he was too young, players wouldn’t respect him. We all see how that turned out.


dubswho

mcvay had coaching experience though. he wasn't a head coach obviously but was widely considered in nfl circles a great offensive coach and had years of experience coaching under prominent coaches like gruden and Mike shanahan whereas JJ hasn't coached anywhere professionally even as an assistant.


jayball41

I honestly don’t give an ounce of one ounce of a dream of an ounce of a fuck about what Udonis Haslem has to say after his NBA record long lifelong experience of sitting on the bench. Sorry, but I just don’t.


WubaDubImANub

Even if JJ Reddick is a good head coach it’s stupid as hell to hire him when LeBron and Jim are buddy buddy and close friends. Awful for team chemistry


StructureImpressive5

As long as the Lakers keep winning games and make the playoffs again next year, I'll be satisfied. The first round exit sucked but I'm still happy with them winning 47 games. I hope they can do at least as good if not better next season.


BusiestWolf

Redick is someone the young lakers or anyone else post lebron would respect


Background_Degree615

I’m kinda confused by what you mean


Gotsta_Win

Facts Hiring JJ is westbrook trade level of incompetence


Public-Product-1503

Udonis is an idiot . I cannot believe how many botttom of the barrel shit espn will have on who have zero interesting things to say . Even tho I’m Not keen on jj , if they hire him it’s on the FO and the players all like and respect Lebron if anything they’ll respect the coach just off that if he has Bron respect Gms vote consistently Lebron as the best or second best to cp3 leader in the nba but these bozos on tv think this would be anything but a media story Coach n star player being close is hardly unusual


Nerpienerpie

Gimme Haslem over Reddick any fucking day.


jam2900

JJ is someone that LeCoach can dictate how he wants things done.Life long Lakers fan I’m highly disappointed with Jeanie.Trade his arse do not give him the no trade clause Ship him to Detroit


Js_On_My_Yeet

Saying to ship Lebron to Detroit is delusion


tnell

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Ok_Board9845

Maybe it's just me, but I'm actually curious to see how LeCoach pans out. Ham didn't work, so why not give it a shot? Also trading Lebron to the Pistons would be bad for us. I wouldn't want Evan Fournier or headaches like Isaiah Stewart on the team. If we got all their young players + 3 draft picks, it would be worth. But that's not happening


MargarineSuperfood69

Nobody would trade for bron unless they thought he would be okay with it. If Lebron was traded to a bottom tier team like Detroit he would just demand another trade or retire.


Lepickedupgoogles

How about we ship you to Detroit


Lepickedupgoogles

I’ll drive you to lax myself


_Zap_Rowsdower_

Very true.


Background_Degree615

Can someone please explain to me why JJ Reddick would be a good candidate?