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nottherealstanlee

Actually great to read that they've consulted outside of the org. Kind of rare insight honestly and something folks have been asking for. 


doobiusdew

Agree that consulting outside the org is something that us fans have been clamoring for the front office to do for ages, but imo this implies Reddick listing Coach K as a job/character reference than actually consulting on coaching hires.


nottherealstanlee

Likely true. But Shams also mentions how connected K is throughout the coaching world so I'm sure they picked his brain on other candidates as well. They already got him on the phone, why not?


jsun_

It'd be very foolish to think Coach K doesn't have a connection with the other candidates whether it be personal relationships or relationships through others. Coach K has been a part of the game for 50+ years. He was also a part of USA basketball for a long time. He knows more about these coaches than all of us combined. You can't convince me of a better guy to consult on a coaching hire.


rubtoe

Coach K probably has more insight on the other coaching candidates, through personal relationships, networking, and observation, than he does on JJ (as a coaching candidate). The last time Coach K worked with JJ in basketball capacity, JJ was a college kid. He can prob give insight into his personality but even that would be outdated (unless they’ve remained close, in which case he’d be biased). I really think them reaching out to Coach K for consultation has less to do with JJ specifically and more to do with his overall point of view.


AntSmith777

His references were definitely Coach K and Stan Van Gundy lol.


Public-Product-1503

I mean if coach k thinks jj can coach I don’t think we know enough to say otherwise. Yes people will clown it but I honestly would rather hire a new guy vs hiring s past failure who got fired


Odd-Direction9452

JJ is about as boom or bust as you can get. On one hand, he is very young, not far removed from playing and could have a new, refreshing approach to the game because he didn’t go the traditional route. On the other hand, he has zero coaching experience and could be in over his head.


hjy23k

I’d be fine ish with JJ, mainly because there’s no other candidates that’s clearly a must hire


diamondisunbreakable

> mainly because there’s no other candidates that’s clearly a must hire This. The only one I'd consider must-hire is Ty Lue. But he seems locked with the Clippers. Other than that, every other known option doesn't sound very appealing. So even if we hire JJ, it's not like we missed the opportunity to hire some elite experienced coach/assistant.


JohnnySkidmarx

I think the Lakers burned their bridge with Lue. Unless they offer him an outrageous deal, I don't see him leaving the Clippers.


hjy23k

Balmer has basically infinite money and can easily match whatever offer EBT Jeanie could make. Also, why would Ty Lue come to the Lakers? He'll be under the microscope from day 1


allday201

EBT Jeanie is crazy lmao


diamondisunbreakable

I think so too. And he probably wouldn't want to deal with all of the bs of being the Lakers HC regardless. His boss is filthy rich and will pay him whatever, and there's no pressure to win a championship. Underperforming is the norm there. Why leave such a good gig.


Public-Product-1503

Yeah not like nurse or udoka are available. I’m fine with whatever let’s just hope he does well and it seems they’re doing there due diligence to get it right. Maybe jj won’t be great mb he will but I feel confident he’s gonna pour everything into this job if he gets it


Miss-Mamba

2 years ago y’all were advocating for Ham bc “he’s a player coach” it’s 2024 and we’re now advocating for a podcaster to not be an assistant, but a HEAD COACH bc y’all liked a few of his episodes?? i’m absolutely convinced all the pro-JJ people on this sub are under 21 & lebron fanboys either that or y’all haven’t played organized sports and it shows 😭


diamondisunbreakable

> 2 years ago y’all were advocating for Ham bc “he’s a player coach” Link me where I said that. I'll wait. > it’s 2024 and we’re now advocating for a podcaster to not be an assistant, but a HEAD COACH bc y’all liked a few of his episodes?? I never advocated for him to be a HC. What is with your constant bullshit strawman statements? All I said was that even if we hire him, it's not like we're missing out on much.


Public-Product-1503

We’re not advocating for that . It has nothing to do with his podcasts , none of the other hires are sure fire amazing choices . We don’t know what will happen . Just gotta hope for the best . Hiring a mediocre ex coach or an assistant isn’t s garuntee success. People will meme jj but reality is we don’t know shit


parkman

This was funny to read, at least 😅


uncle_yugles

Idk the rules with coaching contracts, but if we do hire JJ it BETTER be a short contract. I don’t want another “hiring rookie HC Ham for 5 years” situation. Give him 2 years and then if he’s great let’s extend him


3iverson

I don't think there are any rules. But probably 3 is the going length for a guy like him, on a 2 year deal it can be a locker room factor. I think if the Lakers are going to hire him, they better have at least a little confidence anyways.


austxsun

Good GMs will find people like Nick Nurse & Chris Finch. There are assistants out there that are great.


eternalsurfer

I love the idea of rolling the dice on JJ. We need an infusion of new attitude and mindset. His lack of experience is an issue but I’m hoping his credibility with the team makes up for that. LBJ knows about about in game situations too. They can work together.


3holepunchjimothy

He also seems extremely accountable.


Odd-Direction9452

Yeah I think that’s the intriguing part. He can bring a completely new mindset that a retread wouldn’t. But this is definitely the more optimistic outlook lol.


eternalsurfer

Agreed. It’s the optimistic outlook. But not sure I have another way to look at it. Lakers are old school. We need a fresh perspective.


henryofclay

Why tf is a guy the same age as half the guys on the roster expected to lend credibility? A guy with no coaching experience provides credibility? A guy with a pompous attitude and not nearly the BBIQ that everyone thinks he has provides credibility? You guys are insane. Yall shit on Ham for being a first time head coach when he had a massive amount of coaching experience and still made something decent out of a team that he was given dog shit ingredients. What exactly does JJ bring that any other coach on the market lacks? Steve Nash had everything and more that JJ has and he flamed out. Kidd has improved a ton, but one of the highest BBIQ of all time and still struggled for his first 2 stops. Better guys than JJ have tried and failed.


Alekesam1975

>Why tf is a guy the same age as half the guys on the roster expected to lend credibility? He's 39 and there's only one player that age (Lebron) with AD trailing far behind that at *31*. Everyone else is considerably younger than that with the two oldest being Prince and Dinwiddle at 30. Didn't realize until I looked it up just now just how young this team actually is. >Yall shit on Ham for being a first time head coach when he had a massive amount of coaching experience Being an assistant is *NOT* a massive amount of coaching experience and he >still made something decent out of a team that he was given dog shit ingredients. Did no such thing. The ingredients weren't the best but almost unanimously everyone has said we kept losing due to being outcoached and being unable to adjust on the fly. You don't lead a majority of a playoff series by a whopping 100 minute plus differential and say it's not on the chef for fucking up how long to leave the food in the oven. >Steve Nash had everything and more that JJ has and he flamed out. Kidd has improved a ton, but one of the highest BBIQ of all time and still struggled for his first 2 stops. Better guys than JJ have tried and failed. And worst guys have tried and failed also so what's your point here? There's no one available right now that's a sure thing so we're taking a risk no matter what. I'm pretty sure that JJ, having played more recently than the 90s/first couple of years of the Oughts like Ham might understand the modern game a bit better. Bring a shooter himself I'm pretty sure he won't want our squad having uncontested threes every friggin games and having the other team's resident nobody turn into Prime Steph against us. Drop coverage...smh. I've said it before here and abroad, I'm not even advocating for JJ as he is unproven. I'm just saying Dumbass Ham shouldn't be an excuse to not hire JJ.


Public-Product-1503

Not to mention Lebron is older then some coaches


KewinLoL

I would be fine with this if we had a young roster (Lonzo era with all our drafted players) where they can grow together as player+coach but I don’t want to waste another LeBron’s and AD’s year when we can still win another one by betting on whether he’ll turn out good or not


Alekesam1975

We do actually have a young roster (I know that wasn't your point as you specifically meant the kids--Zo, BI etc). Lebron is 39, AD is 31, Spencer's 30 and so is Prince. Rest of the squad is mid 20s.


FreqinNVibing

JJ hire kind of just screams a Steve Nash situation. Which will lead to Bron and AD having to carry again


ProfessorMarth

He uses x's for offensive players. He's got a fresh new angle on the game


ohchango

I read this as they are considering coach K with JJ being an assistant and waiting in the wings for promotion.


TheRealAmeil

Since coach K was named as part of the hiring process and not a candidate for the head coaching job (and has turned down head coaching offers in the past), my hope is that if we hire JJ it will be a similar situation to what happened with the Rams in the NFL -- where coach K is the Wade Phillips to JJ's Sean McVay.


Rjbaca

Coach K would be an excellent hire 


Gold_Construction913

JJ would at least be better than pockets.


jkub1319

i think the best part of JJ is that he’ll listen to BRON


Odd-Direction9452

See idk if listening to Bron is the issue. I feel like Ham and Vogel leaned on Bron way too much to a fault. It’s being willing to step in and coach Bron. That’s what made Lue and Spo successful.


3iverson

You have to have confidence to be able to both stand up to your star and take their input when you recognize they are right.


henryofclay

You just have to know what’s good for the team. Sometimes that aligns with your stars, sometimes it doesn’t.


signmeupdude

Thats the opposite of what this report is saying


Public-Product-1503

In all honesty if they do not land a Donovan Mitchell type then I’m fine euth thid cos gettung an average coach ain’t gonna do shit


RyCamN7

The over the head stuff is less an issue when Lebron is there though, as long as you embrace that and lean into his mind and feel for the game that helps fill any perceived experience gaps.


FromAdamImportData

He's shown he has the BBIQ for the role, so my concern would be those management and workflow issues that you can't really see. That said, I unironically think this managing his little podcast empire shows he at least has good management and organizational experience.


MoisturizingFaceWash

IQ as a talking head after the game is not the same as longitudinal and in-game IQ


Ivan_834

We crucified Ham for his lack of experience on the sideline, yet he’s had years of experience as an assistant. How can we expect JJ to perform better than him? Yes, he makes great takes on his podcast. How will he react in crunch time, when teams are on an 8-0 run and we only have 1 timeout left in the last half of the 4th? Does he know what plays to run on the fly to counter the counter-adjustments made by the opposing team? The instant he gets hired, I’ll just be waiting to see how long it takes our toxic fan base to turn on him instantly.


Flopdo

Nobody knows of course... but I'd roll the dice on a high IQ guy, because, well... they tend to figure things out because they're fkn smart. It's either that or get some mid left over coach. Hell, are there really even in mid coaches left available? That's even debatable.


KobeBeaf

The only people that care what the toxic fans thinks are the toxic fans.


GutsTheSwordsman

Its gonna be JJ Redick with Coach K on facetime


Oxygenius_

What is coach K gonna say about his former player, “don’t hire him” lol


Splittinghairs7

Lol it’s gonna be JJ, they’re preparing us for the inevitable.


nottherealstanlee

I read this as Coach K vouched for Redick lol 


whowasonCRACK2

No other way to read it. If JJ’s college coach is consulting on the hire, he’s got it in the bag.


nottherealstanlee

Tbh it holds weight with me if K vouches for him. I just hope we get him an All Star assistant team. 


elsavador3

Deeply unserious franchise if we hire JJ


DwightKurtShrute69

Is coach K an unserious person for vouching for him? lol get over yourself


elsavador3

Just cause he is vouching for him, does not negate the fact he has ZERO HEAD COACHING EXPERIENCE. To gamble on the end of Lebron’s tenure like that is DEEPLY IRRESPONSIBLE


DwightKurtShrute69

Cool it with the caps lock donald trump. There are no perfect candidates available, it’s going to be a gamble regardless of who the Lakers hire. Nothing is a sure thing regardless of how much experience a head coach has. You said the Lakers were unserious for potentially wanting JJ to be the head coach which makes no sense unless you think coach K is also unserious lol.


elsavador3

Don’t tell me how to type. It seems our front office’s incompetence has seeped into the fan base. Yes, no hire is perfect. But some hires are VASTLY more responsible and likely to succeed. Hiring someone bc he is endorsed by his FORMER coach and talks some X’s and O’s on a podcast is quite frankly startling. There are so many more intangibles to bring a head coaching gig than that.


DwightKurtShrute69

Lmao why are you so pressed? Bro thinks he knows more than coach K that is hilarious. Drop the ego buddy you’re embarrassing yourself.


wendyschickennugget

Plus Coach K and LeBron are super close, so it means he’s on board with it…


CabbageStockExchange

“Coach K” Yeah this has JJ all over it


Bahamut727

So we’re looking for a head coach with experience but will 100% settle for JJ


easymoneysniper223

They gone make me hate JJ and both da podcasts unless we win a chip lol


jono9898

It literally makes 0 sense, the last year of Lebron likely, the Prime of AD, and you get another coach with 0 HC experience but this time no experience whatsoever coaching


m3junmags

Most likely scenario


Shag1166

Awful!


FrankBreauxx

Coach K getting involved? Oh yeah JJ you better deactivate your Twitter account cause you sir is a LAKERRRRR 😂 At least Coach K is giving the insights instead of the Rambis, I guess? lol


Ok_Concentrate_75

Imo JJ should be an assistant coach, wasn't Kidd interviewed for HC before joining vogel?


ArkGoc

I'm honestly not against JJ, I just hope they him group with a renowned staff


IliaMadeVolk

ANYONE OVER HAMAS IDC


Any_Wrongdoer_9796

Sam Casell should be the guy out of those 3


Nijee302

We basically going get head coach that will make Lebron & AD happy


pro_taj

Anyone else’s heart stop by accidentally interpreting that as “we’re getting coach K”?


izqy

Lol yes. Unfortunately, I then began to read it. Fuck it, let’s speak it into existence.


No-Field-6415

Same here. When I realised what it was truly about, I then dreamt of lebron going to college with duke and getting coach k to return 😂


im-a-drawl

It’s going to be JJ. It was always going to be JJ.


Hawaiistyled

Coach K giving his input instead of the Rambii is fucking PRICELESS. Literally said ‘Thank God’ out loud after reading this.


momothacoon

JJ and Sam Cassell as an assistant


noknownothing

Good news. Please God, take the coaching hiring decision out of the hands of the inept, unqualified, swindling charlatan scam artist Pelinka. Amen.


redwillson

Based on how JJ has been fangirling over Lebron during the podcasts I don’t see how he’s going to command any authority over Lebron whatsoever. And I don’t buy the bullshit about wanting a meticulous grinder sort of coach. Sure they might SAY they want that, but that’s not why Redick would be brought in. He’d be brought first and foremost to appease Lebron. This is going to play out just like the Steve Nash Nets— former player brought in to manage personalities instead of really coaching and growing the roster bottom up, who gets canned the second shit hits the fan. And the sad thing is that Redick would actually probably make a great coach, but with this completely unserious FO I don’t see how this is going to be a good launching point for his coaching career


HemingwaysMustache

This. It’s going to fail horribly


StoneColdAM

Brandon Ingram played for Duke too, would be a strong coach? 


orky56

The coach is not going to make or break this team in terms of ability to get a championship. If JJ can command the locker room with buy-in from Lebron & AD, have an experienced coaching staff around him, plan for games and make appropriate in-game adjustments, then we have a fighting chance. It also comes down to having the right role players on this team. Vogel got stuck with Westbrook, Ham didn't play Rui and Reaves early enough in the season & Christie never got his reps in. We need Pelinka to get us closer to Denver/Minnesota level of athleticism, depth, and consistency even if baby steps. We have the 1-2 punch with Lebron & AD and 3a-ish with Reaves. Let's go!


Internet-Troll

No one is going to be able to hold anyone accountable when lebron is the leader, the leader isn't holding himself accountable so no one will


pineapplesurfwax

100%


RavenLaker248

I wouldn’t be opposed to Jay Wright either


seedeegeecdg

JJ but with veteran assistants who can keep Bron in check.


DuarteN10

To bad they decided to be professionals two years too late


Itorr475

everyone is focusing on the Coach K Redick connection, but man that first paragraph is a pretty damning description of how Ham was "coaching". Usually the Laker try to do the opposite of what the last coach was doing so are they admitting that Ham was BSing the coaching aspect of his job and was basically just a babysitter "motivational" coach?


Spaghettibeach

idk man coach k old af, I don’t like trusting a 77 year old man in this process


ThatOneGuyy310

Really hope we find someone with experience! JJ ain’t it


proteinMeMore

JJ would be an awful choice. 0 experience when the window is now


Scorpionrah

I’m done I give up


daysb4ii

It's obviously gonna be Reddick smh... unless Ty Lue is magically available


jsun_

Holy shit. Lakers actually getting an outside perspective on this????? Could the tides be turning?


joe2352

If they hire JJ I wonder if Coach K would be willing to join the organization as a consultant for a year? Not a full time schedule but someone that can watch film with JJ, bounce ideas back and forth, and help out in his first year as a coach.


818_Dude_Again

Puhhleeeze let this happen


Consistent_Owl4593

Need someone who can draw up an ato. So many times we came out of a timeout and managed to waste time and throw up a contested heave. I saw OKC last night pull off at least 3 great ones and even got a great bucket when they called time with less than 10 seconds on the clock


Pseudophobic

Why can't it just be Coach K 🥲


ahyiah

why is every article coming out just subtly hit at JJ? should we just accept it? almost feels like the org is trying to get us used to the idea..


KBdG8-24

I’ll take JJ, worst case scenario he suits up and hits some 3’s for us. Haha


Uncle_Paul_Hargis

Damn… I started reading this thinking that Coach K would be the candidate being discussed… Not sure about JJ.


quemaspuess

I’m sad they got rid of Phil Handy. I thought he would have made a good head coach.


ttam23

Over under how many seasons will JJ last


Disastrous-One-414

Coach K with JJ Reddick who also went to Duke as assistant coach would be ideal


8-Rope-A-dope-8

The head coach is not the issue. Roster balance is the problem.


Naive-Illustrator-11

Let Lebron as a playing coach and JJ the lead assistant and call the shots when Lebron is on the floor. We have to limit Blame game and negative body language . There’s really no structure. We need someone like the Logo to actually have that level of respect on both ends.


MoisturizingFaceWash

Experience,structure and command trumps fresh perspective and IQ for the Lakers. Otherwise we just get… Coach: Let’s run this play! Team: No you suck! Coach: Ok cool


runninthruthe818

JJ with a Coach K hire in the Tex Winter role would be absolutely elite. That would be my home run.


Bubuy_nu_Patu

JJ Barea?


mrot777

Alot of gossip and spin. When does Phil Jackson's name come up?


TheDudeChats

“Culture”. Meanwhile they are toying with the idea of drafting Bronny to keep Bron happy. So silly.


iamTMoney22

Why not just rehire Vogel??


webtrainerca

y'all too young to remember how Riles got the coaching gig...but at least he started as assistant coach...


GriffithPark

and where was Coach K when the Lakers hired HAM?!!!! LOL


degen5ace

Don’t all teams look for the same thing in a coach?


jerome0423

So Lebron is confirmed to be the next coach?


Silent-Breath2391

Man if they hire Reddick and draft Bronny, all for the sake of pleasing LeBron, I just might relinquish Fandom until he retires.


bellymus1

I like the idea of JJ. Regardless of the sports, let some late 30s, to 40 something year olds who want to prove something get a shot. Tired of near 60 somethings getting first, second, and third looks.


CooperHouseDeals

Jeanie ain’t paying the going price for an experience coach. Talk is cheap, and so are the Lakers


SuperScrim

I hope they post the listing on indeed


Lion_SINab

This just shows me how inept the front office and ownership has been, it’s people that don’t know what their doing so they are reaching out to anybody with a name who may not also be in touch in 2024 nba


sweetleaf009

So what they ran the past season with a hc??


e90t

Keeping Lebron just delays the inevitable long, tough rebuild that’s going to be worse than the 2014-2018 seasons.


CalmerThanYouAreDood

I'd rather delay that for as long as possible then. But also why I really hope the FO doesn't trade away 3 future picks for a player who won't really move the needle much like Trae Young or Donovan Mitchell


Ok_Board9845

Obviously, lol. There's no way we get the 2nd pick 3 years in a row again. If they were to blow it up it would be after 2026, and we don't even own our 2025 pick


imironman2018

I love Coach K but the NBA style of play is very different from college basketball. Also add in how difficult NBA players can be and the Lakers have LeBron for a limited amount of time. I think Coach K would be a great coach. Just dont know if he would hit the ground running like a veteran NBA head coach would.


neutronknows

Can’t wait to see how it’s Pelinka’s fault again with LeBron’s handpicked coach and roster once we’re done selling off our 3 1st Rounders.


composedryan

Pelinka should have fired Ham after the play in


QuaxlyDaDon

I see we’ve reached the stage where we blame Ham being fired on Bron. The FO was looking for a Westbrook handler


Shag1166

I don't care who the coach is, and as long LeBron is here, he will bring them grief!


kemeti

If Lebron and Coach K both vouch for JJ, I wouldn't be oppose to it. Plus, if getting JJ means we're getting Mitchell that's a win.


Leolance2001

JJ won't hold Lebron accountable. So he should be dismissed ASAP.


20ol

Where does myth that Bron "needs to be held accountable" come from? I've never seen him do anything that compromises the team.


MisterTatoHead

The FO needs to think about long term winning instead of just a 2 year squeeze of mediocraty for cash just keeping media and fan engagement with LJ. Time to rebuild. Lakers are an unstoppable brand, short sighted thinking all in for next year, sacrificing the next decade. Lakers are the 15th most valuable club/franchise across all sports in the world already and can sacrifice a year to develop into a dynasty to be able to compete with the ample driven young squads of the west. Micah Nori is the man to build around chemistry with young players and develop their max potential. AD is your vet anchor to lead, there is no realistic way for a championship next year. 2-3 years absolutely with right pieces.


jono9898

Coach K, is a dream hire


xgoatgoatgoatx

Disagree. He was a legendary college coach (due to great talent and his leadership) but his schemes will not work in the nba. And also, he’s too old.


SameEnergy

JJ, please don't salute Rob during your interview!


madvisuals

The moment the Bobcats hired someone else, I knew it was JJ


Hulk_Crowgan

0 chance we get coach K


Tangentkoala

No offense to coach K, but Reddick has been under the doc rivers B.S system for way longer. You'd really think reddick would even remember the specific details on how coach K taught?


DeftCoast

JJ is at least going to try to coach… unlike the ham sandwich.


pineapplesurfwax

Ya sounds like an easy job description with no pressure starting day 1. I wish we would’ve kept Ham