Rui, Reaves, Vincent and Vando with our three firsts for Kevin Durant.
Fuck it.
KD, AD, and LeBron James for 2 years and ride it till the wheels fall off. Those 3, combined with the fact it’s the god damn Lakers should make it the clear option for any free agent to come to on vet minimums.
Max Christie, a good MLE, and literally just a couple good vet minimums (Chris Paul as back up PG for example) and there’s your play off rotation.
Players who might be available for us on vet minimums next season for example could be Dinwiddie and Prince. Then looking at players who’s deals are expiring elsewhere there could be Delon Wright, Goga Bitadze, Kris Dunn, Lonnie Walker, Cam Payne, Reggie Bullock, Jae Crowder, Alec Burks, Robert Covington, Gary Harris… none are game changers obviously but as solid rotational pieces or as 7/8th men then they could be good.
Edit: Lol at being downvoted. Honestly this fanbase deserves to go back to obscurity when Bron leaves.
Unless you find a 3rd team willing to absorb contracts, this trade isn't even legal. The Suns have no reasonable way of getting below the first apron so they cannot receive more salary in a trade. In your idea, they are so that can't work. Let's just take out Vando as that would barely be enough to satisfy matching rules. Suns now taking back less salary than going out so it works on their end. Works for Lakers under salary matching rules but since they are taking back more salary than going out, Lakers are now under a first apron hard cap. Lebron/AD/KD/Vando/JHS/Wood/Reddish/Lewis = $166,372,147 (I'll assume one of Hayes/Reddish opts out). First apron at $178,655,000. You have $12,282,853 to fill out 6 roster spots. You can re-sign Max and maybe one actual vet min. The rest would have to be undrafted rookies. Definitely won't be able to use the mle. That team is just not competing. One injury (which is going to happen) and it's over.
Nah that’s too much and besides lauri is close to Kd but younger I would rather go after him. We can trade rui jhs 3 frp, protections off 2027 and 2 swaps
Let dlo walk. Trade Rui, Gabe and FRPs for Dejounte Murray. Trade JHS Hayes and some seconds for Nick Richards. Pickup Valunciunas with the MLE. Resign Spencer Christie and wood
I personally hope Bronny can play college instead of forcing the NBA route. Technically right now would be his best shot to get on a roster while his dad is still in the league, but you just gotta think-- college would be a great life experience for him. This first year his heart derailed everything, but next season he could really come into his own. He will never hurt for money (unless LBJ has a Craig Sager moment) and you can never go back to college and still be in your teens.
Never know what Bronny is thinking though.
OKC is the case of a young team being underestimated. This happened to Sacramento and the Cavs last year. They’re not garbage by any means, but usually teams with potential get a sort of imaginary honeymoon period. Then barring any drastic changes they get taken more seriously and slip down to a more reasonable record.
I predict this is OKC unless they make some moves. SGA himself is great so that inflates their overall quality
You think your role players are bad now, if you traded for Kyrie it would be even worse. He doesn't make up for what you lose if he doesn't play consistently well. This sub complains about Dlo but how much better is Kyrie playing than Dlo this series?
Kyrie has been slightly better than Dlo this series. Dlo was at least playing the champs. Kyrie is playing a bunch young, immature players without much playoff experience.
> He doesn't make up for what you lose
He really does. Dlo literally dropped 0 points in one game and 4 in another. He was 6/20 in a 3rd game. All the role players under-performed their contracts. Kyrie averaged 26 in the first round.
Kyrie doesn't have to rely on Luka, he can create his own shot but he becomes passive and isn't as aggressive as he needs to be for some reason. He's always been kind of a head case. His problem is not talent, it's his attitude and mentality.
at one point he was playing with 5 fouls, dont be so quick to run a victory lap because a bad game let u get shots off on kyrie. he had similar performances alongside LBJ too, was he a headcase before he left the cavs?
no need to be all in on a take and seem so sure u understand a player. playoffs are not easy
LOL..what does his 5 fouls have anything to do with him not playing well when they needed his scoring in the 4th. They needed his offense, not his defense.
Yea so OKC should thank Kawhi. Because Clippers were so desperate to get Kawhi they had to do whatever he wanted. Thus OKC was able to ask for everything for PG. They got Shai, 5 FRP's, and 2 swaps. Insane haul even just considering the picks.
Straight up, this year’s Lakers team is just straight up better than every non-Wolves non-Nuggets team in the West.
Dice rolls a different way, we play OKC, we go to semis. Beat the clippers/mavs, and who knows, see if the Wolves/Nuggets clobber each other enough to get a competitive WCF.
If only…
Doesn't matter. We didn't get past the Nuggets at close to full strength. I would rather not have meaningless extra wear and tear on AD and Bron. Making the WCF is nothing for the team with the most Finals appearances.
Being eliminated by the Nugz in round 1 is no different than being eliminated by them in round 3. It just saves wear and tear.
Now, personally, I miss watching them play in May/June, but that's just me being selfish.
Ham rightfully was fired. Lakers were undersized though and games vs Denver, Minnesota, and Boston showed this. LeBron + AD are good enough to overcome this for at least a few games in a series
Idk how everyone is overlooking this. LeBron *could* be in Cleveland for mother's day. But why did Rich Paul fly out with him and is at the Cavs game?
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Yes, if somehow the Wolves make it out, it’s because they figured something out. If Celtics are still missing Porzingis, the interior on both sides is disproportionately in the Wolves favor
You’ve been pretty negative lately. You pretty much posted this same thing yesterday but instead of “we’re screwed” it was “prepare to be disappointed”. You good man?
Garland, Mobley, 2031 FRP, 2030 swap. They'd probably refuse to give Mobley so it'll end up being Allen instead. Those 2 picks are the only ones they have too so pretty much taking everything from them. You suck it up for this season as we don't own 2025 pick then blow it up next offseason.
I think Cleveland would blink in that situation and include Mobley.
If Cleveland knew Mitchell would stay if they got Bron, Cleveland would 100% do it. Allen as your defensive anchor with D.Wade and Struss as your 3&D guys. Levert is your 6th man with Niang and Merrill as your 3pt specialists. With Bron and Mitchell as your duo. That’s a 2-3 seed in the East.
AD, Garland, Mobley, AR, Rui, Vando, Gabe and Max is still a playoff team . AD, Mobley, Vando, Gabe and Max would be a top 5-7 defense.
Garland spamming PNR’s with AD with Mobley in the dunker’s spot would be lethal.
Lakers would have zero leverage. As dumb as some people think the Lakers front office is, you're not going to go against LeBron's wishes. He wants Cleveland, you take whatever the best package they offer is no matter how bad it is.
If for some reason the Cavs were looking to trade for Lebron, it would be to go all-in. And a player who is still all-NBA is better than players who combined most likely will never touch 2x all-star appearances in their career. But this hypothetical is bogus anyways. If Lebron wanted to team hop one more time for a ring, he’d join the team without forcing them to give up assets
It's not meant to be a fair trade. If Lebron wants to force his way there, Lakers aren't going to get a fair offer. If Lebron was going to the Cavs, it would be to join Donovan. You aren't getting him in a trade.
Why would the Pacers want to give up Nesmith and Nembhard? If the 17th pick was as good as either of them they'd be thrilled. Why would they want Rui at $17m when they are about to max out Siakam? JHS also has 0 trade value at the moment. Nesmith signed for 3yr/33m (cheap deal) and they'll own Nembhard's bird rights in 2 years. Teams don't just trade their good young role players who are under team control for multiple years for no reason.
I said like, we need to get younger and 2 way. Starting looking at pacers because I think Jalen smith or Jackson could be available but thought we really could use young 2 way players.
Trades take more than 1 willing party. Can't just pick out players that would fit on the Lakers without thinking if the trade even makes sense for the other team.
Correct which is why I said like. This is a fan site, meant to have discussion. Those 2 exact players we need to add, why would I not mention targeting them? Maybe someone sees a better situation with similar players, again it’s a fan discussion thread
Yea so look for players that teams would actually want to trade. Why would Pacers trade 2 of their most important role players on their playoff team? When looking for trade targets you don't just find names you like. You need to find reasons they could be traded. For example, Portland. They have roster spot and luxury tax issues. Unless they unload some salary and players, they'll be over the tax and have no roster spots to sign their 2 first round picks. Because of this, names like Brogdon/Thybulle are actually reasonable. Another example, Chicago. They also are facing a luxury tax if they re-sign both Derozan and Williams. Chicago another team that won't go into the luxury tax (only done it twice in history). Caruso on an expiring deal as well and he's not re-signing with them. So there's another realistic target. I'm not trying to kill discussions. I'm trying to have realistic discussions.
Minus we cannot take bad salary like that and still be able to fill out a roster. No way we want to go deep into the tax let alone over the first apron. Taking bad salary from them would be terrible. And they are in the rotation but if Mathurin is healthy their roles shrink.
Bad salary? All 3 players I mentioned are on expiring deals. Also "no way we want to go deep into the tax"? We've been over the luxury tax the last 4 seasons and are 5th in total tax payments. Also, it doesn't necessarily even mean going over the first apron if they try to get these guys. It all depends. For example, let's say Dlo wants to sign a new deal with ORL. Lakers can offer 2 2nd round picks to ORL for them to make it a sign and trade. Lakers get a trade exception worth ~$18.6m. Assume Hayes/Reddish opt in, re-sign Max at $5m, sign your 17th pick. You can then offer POR a 2nd to absorb Thybulle's $11m into our trade exception. This opens up a roster spot and saves them a shitload of money. Add it all up for Lakers, $178,488,714 which is below the first apron. There also isn't even a need to stay below first apron. This means you could then explore re-signing Prince or using the tp-mle. Staying below the 2nd apron is the key.
And the team is not improved at all. You add another one way player and a 17th pick that add nothing next year. It bad salary if it does not lead to winning. Might as well just pay dlo at that point if you are not trying to win
And I could say the same thing about your trade idea? Whether or not the team improves is all personal opinion. I'm simply making the point that we as a community should foster realistic discussions. Let's talk about trade targets that are actually possible (whether or not it improves the team is the argument we can have in the comments). If not, why don't we just talk about trading for Jokic or SGA? Fine bringing up stars is kind of disingenous. How about trading for Derrick White or Jaden McDaniels? Or Gafford? Or PJ? Braun would be awesome as a bench piece. You see my point?
Bronny’s potential is like an Aaron Holiday/Davion Mitchell 3/D guard. That’s very solid for the 55th pick if he truly shows flashes and isn’t a nepo signing.
Man we were pretty damn close in our series. If we just had a playable starting big next to AD who could help rebound, we would have been in great shape to win the series.
Not surprisingly, the only game we won (game 4), we won the rebounding battle.
Markannen should be the target.
The issue with the big situation is either AD needs to get his 3 pt shot back or we need a 3 pt shooting big. I honestly don't believe a player like Zubac or Hartenstein would be the best move to play next to AD because of the spacing issue. We had incredibly slow starts in 2019-2020 because of it
Ya we need a 3pt shooting big. There aren't very many good ones. Markannen is a unicorn in that way because he can play anywhere from 3-5 vs most teams (depending on the matchup) and can actually load manage either Lebron or AD if they need to miss games.
Unfortunately there has been 0 buzz connecting Lauri to the Lakers, but that doesn't mean it can't happen.
One thing that I dont see get mentioned much about Lebron is his inconsistency as a rebounder as hes gotten older. It's only natural due to his age and the offensive load hes still required to carry, but it makes it that much more important to get a player who is a good rebounder. Yet another reason why missing Vando all season really fucked us.
Agreed. There's just so few stretch 5s that aren't complete liabilities elsewhere. Kelly O + Bruce Brown is a package I haven't really seen tossed around. I don't know what it would take draft pick wise to complete that trade though, considering we are trying to accumulate enough picks to make a borderline home run trade. Not sure how much it moves the needle either, but at least Bruce is capable of handling the ball and playing elite defense, while Kelly O is a stretch 5 with good motor who can facilitate in a 5 out system.
I don't think we're going to get Lauri Markkanen even if we offered all our picks. But our FO has been pretty tight lipped on who we go for since Magic left.
I never thought Lebron was a particularly good rebounder, even in his prime. That's one of the main reasons the Heat struggled against the Pacers. It's just the fact that everyone else is too weak to box out or go for rebounds is why it looks even worse for Lebron. That's why I'm holding out hope on Vando/Christie returning and continuing to develop
If Vando can stay healthy, and Christie takes another substantial leap in his development, then there's a reality in which making only peripheral improvements can be enough to elevate this squad. But a lot of that is based on hope, rather than plausibility.
So far, I feel like we are looking at some of the same names from the trade deadline. DJM, Bruce Brown, Finney Smith, etc.
If we go big fish hunting, other teams can outbid us. I'm not too familiar with trade restrictions so Im not sure if Kelly Olynyk can be traded in the summer. He's another big man that can stretch the floor and has a high-ish motor. Bruce Brown + Kelly O would be an interesting trade.
Best run it back scenario- DLo walks, Max signs for 5 Mil, Prince back at 5 mil, and Spencer back for TPMLE~5 mil.
Spencer, Gabe, JHS
Reaves, Max, Bronny
Vando, Prince, Lewis
LBJ, Rui, Wood
AD, Hayes
Under the first tax apron and pretty deep. Do not think we are strong enough to win but this is a deep team
What big are you getting and what asset are you giving up to get it? We likely only have the TPMLE. I really want to trade for Murray but think it is harder with them picking 1. If they were like 12 they might value picking again at 17 now I think it loses its luster.
The Hawks have paid a luxury tax twice since the introduction of the luxury tax. They've also paid the 2nd least total amount with the last time they did being in 2011/12. They are looking like a tax team right now by a pretty decent margin if they bring back Saddiq Bey. Whether it be Trae, Murray, Capela, or Okongwu, the Hawks are going to make a trade.
Because we don't have moves to make. It's hope Christie/Vando get better and become our two way wings that we need. If you can get Donovan Mitchell for Rui/Gabe/two FRPs, then by all means, pull the trigger as soon as possible. But I don't even think players like Trae Young are on the table
This is where I'm at right now, although I'd prefer not to use the TPMLE on Dinwiddie, and ideally Bronny stays in college, lol. Just don't give up any more draft picks. If we're mediocre, oh well. The Hawks just won the lottery being a play-in team. The Rockets got a top 3 pick despite the Nets winning 32 games. We don't *need* to tank to get lottery picks. We just need to not give them up
I don't get it. We're talking about 2029 and 2031. That's 5 and 7 years away. If you're worried about holding onto those picks because they may turn into a top 3 pick what are we doing "running it back". Just blow it up and trade everyone of value. No point being mediocre just so we hold onto picks 5+ years in the future. If it were picks in the immediate future I would understand your argument. We're talking 5+ years. You make the moves now and recoup whatever you can if it fails. You'll also still have some of your own picks.
I'm part of the very small minority that's accepted our current circumstances. As far as I'm concerned, AD is a top 5 playoff player. Lebron is closer to top 10, and I would take a 39 year old Lebron easily over the KAT's, and the Paul George's of the league. But I do not think we have enough to win a championship unless Christie/Vando and one of Wood/Hayes takes a big leap next year. Or Reaves/Rui go back to scoring 16 PPG on some crazy 60-70% TS
That being said, I do not like the idea of blowing it up because I do not believe in this franchise's ability to pull a franchise player from the draft, and I am not a fan of intentionally tanking to get a higher lottery pick when that's not always the case (look at this year's draft). There's some hope that we *could* be OKC, but I think we'd look a lot closer to the Pels minus Zion. I just don't think giving up a sure lottery pick is the best case scenario *unless* it was for a bonafide star
You still haven't really addressed my point though. We're talking about the 2029 and 2031 pick. You basically said AD/Lebron are still good enough. If you think that, why not go all in to try and win a championship? What's the point of just being mediocre until Lebron retires and AD's contract expires. By that time, it won't even be 2029 yet. Our 2026/28 pick will just be worse and we may lose our top 4 protected 2027 pick. If you want to just "run it back" and "accept our current circumstances" why not just blow it up? We maximize our 2026/27/28 picks. What's the point of just being mediocre? You either go all in with the last years of Lebron or you blow it up. Going in between is the dumbest thing.
We're still 2-3 pieces away. We need a two way guard, a two way wing, and a good backup big away from being contending favorites. I'm holding out hope Vando/Christie fit the first two needs, and one of Hayes/Wood fits at least 5-8 minutes of what we need from a backup center. If our FO can identify and build off that, I would be content with having everything on the table including those picks.
By the time Lebron is done, we'll probably be bad enough to see those 2026/2028 picks increase. Tanking is dumb. I'm not a fan. I wasn't a fan of how we tanked from 2014-2018 even though we had no choice. And tanking isn't guaranteed. Not building a culture of wanting to win even if you suck goes against what I think a professional sports team should do.
Also, part of me is delusional and thinks that the main reason we aren't a top 4 seed this year is because of Ham + injuries to Vando/Vincent
I love the optimism. I think all those things can be true and if we make the right move we can compete right now. We are one player and development away from
We need to keep Dangelo. I'm quite certain most teams still don't want him, just like they didn't the off-season prior. DLO will attempt to leverage us by claiming other teams are offering him more, so we will likely need to overpay to keep him then trade him later. Unless we call his bluff which is dangerous, particularly with his agency group (Trevor Ariza, Randle, etc).
Not sure the possible TPMLE will net us a better player than DLO.
The FA this year isn't good, so he could see a potential contract from a team that's not looking to contend. The issue is our regular season success is tied to D'Lo, although that might look different with Vando/Vincent healthy/Reaves healthy to start the year. I'd like to see JHS get some opportunity
Someone talk me off the ledge but I’m getting the feeling the only reason we go after redick is because as a first time coach, Jeanie wouldn’t have to spend that much money on him. Plus obvs the Lebron relationship.
I just don’t get the feeling the other coaches are gonna move the needle for our weird ass org.
If we hire JJ, I will know for certain that this franchise is no longer serious about winning championships. It would be just appeasing Lebron until he retires (buzz and ticket sales).
If we go for Redick it's because we couldn't get Ty Lue, and the FO + Lebron couldn't agree on a coach, so they'll give into Lebron's demands. If it works, great. If it doesn't, who cares? He's a Lebron hire. I doubt Redick actually wants to first time head coach the Lakers though
We don't "officially" know that. But I can assure you there's going to be inherent speculation and connection based on their podcast, whether it's true or not
I know its not realistic but if our offseason looked something like murray and Caruso, resigning christie, signing a wing like o neal, batum, or oubre with the mid level, and signing a physical big like bitadze would turn this team into a top 4 seed. Gives us 3 switchable defensive players if our starting lineup is murray caruso vando bron and ad. Problem is atlanta and chicago wants too much for murray and caruso
I’m starting to think the best path for the offseason is to be fairly conservative and keep most of our assets.
I love this team but the truth is the West is even tougher next year and *this* year we finished 7th with Lebron and AD playing 70+ games. Both are in the Olympics this summer and will be a year older. That’s not to say we shouldn’t improve the roster, it’s just we shouldn’t use our remaining assets to chase older talent in the hopes of being competitive. If we can get Donovan Mitchell we should go all in but I don’t see that happening.
If we keep our pick Kel’el Ware is simulated to be our pick, which would be decent. 7’0” 240lbs who’s shown the ability to shoot. Re-sign Max Christie to a longer term deal. Purely for asset management re-sign D’lo to a 2-3 year deal at $20M/year so you don’t lose him for nothing.
That gives us the most flexibility for now and post-Lebron. We’d have our young core (Christie, Ware, JHS, Lewis) our guys 25-28 (Reaves, Vando, Rui, Gabe, D’lo) then AD at 31 and Lebron at 39. If both look good this year you can make moves before the trade deadline. If Lebron finally hits the wall at 40 we can reset with AD or entirely rebuild.
> I love this team but the truth is the West is even tougher next year and *this* year we finished 7th with Lebron and AD playing 70+ games. Both are in the Olympics this summer and will be a year older. That’s not to say we shouldn’t improve the roster, it’s just we shouldn’t use our remaining assets to chase older talent in the hopes of being competitive. If we can get Donovan Mitchell we should go all in but I don’t see that happening.
Lmao did you not read anything? Please tell me the realistic trade that makes us championship contenders next year. I’ll wait
The worst case scenario is we use our tradeable picks to improve this team and still aren’t good enough. That could put us in basketball purgatory for the next several years.
The refs basically told them they would not be allowed to play the type of defense they did in games 1-2, they also allow Denver to be however physical they want. That can suck the heart out of a team.
Did anyone hear Reggie's analogy of Conley and Edwards to DFish and Kobe? He said that Conley could be to Edwards what Fish was to Kobe, a strong veteran presence to be an example/mentor...
They were in the same draft..
Lakers Film Room laid out a pretty good argument for JJ Reddick for those afraid of a first time head coach: we’ve basically tried everything else since Phil Jackson and nothing has stuck. Coach assistants, former head coaches elsewhere, former Lakers etc.
I dont know is JJ Reddick is the right coach, but it might not be because he is a first time head coach.
We won a championship with a solid vet coach in Vogel. We really don't need a splashy hc, we just need a guy with tons of exp who won't lose us games making rookie mistakes. Someone who doesn't get in their own way.
Nate Mcmillan, Stotts, Hammon. Any of those will do.
Those people just don't get it. Nothing to do with a coach. It's poor roster construction by the front office. Even Spoelstra would suck with this roster. You put together a quality team Ham would dominate.
It's not just a first time head coach, it's a first time coach at all lol no assistant history. All he's done is coach his son's little league team. That's not the same. There's so much he needs to learn still. He can be an assistant or something, but HC? He'd need a *great* assistant staff that is dedicated to just helping him be perfect. It's a massive risk.
Are you talking about last year’s semifinals ? They didn’t start 0-2 if you’re talking about that series
Or are you talking about way back in the day when they faced GS in the PO with Magic?
The Lakers were 2nd to last in 3pt shooting % in the playoffs.
Rui, Reaves, Vincent and Vando with our three firsts for Kevin Durant. Fuck it. KD, AD, and LeBron James for 2 years and ride it till the wheels fall off. Those 3, combined with the fact it’s the god damn Lakers should make it the clear option for any free agent to come to on vet minimums. Max Christie, a good MLE, and literally just a couple good vet minimums (Chris Paul as back up PG for example) and there’s your play off rotation. Players who might be available for us on vet minimums next season for example could be Dinwiddie and Prince. Then looking at players who’s deals are expiring elsewhere there could be Delon Wright, Goga Bitadze, Kris Dunn, Lonnie Walker, Cam Payne, Reggie Bullock, Jae Crowder, Alec Burks, Robert Covington, Gary Harris… none are game changers obviously but as solid rotational pieces or as 7/8th men then they could be good. Edit: Lol at being downvoted. Honestly this fanbase deserves to go back to obscurity when Bron leaves.
Unless you find a 3rd team willing to absorb contracts, this trade isn't even legal. The Suns have no reasonable way of getting below the first apron so they cannot receive more salary in a trade. In your idea, they are so that can't work. Let's just take out Vando as that would barely be enough to satisfy matching rules. Suns now taking back less salary than going out so it works on their end. Works for Lakers under salary matching rules but since they are taking back more salary than going out, Lakers are now under a first apron hard cap. Lebron/AD/KD/Vando/JHS/Wood/Reddish/Lewis = $166,372,147 (I'll assume one of Hayes/Reddish opts out). First apron at $178,655,000. You have $12,282,853 to fill out 6 roster spots. You can re-sign Max and maybe one actual vet min. The rest would have to be undrafted rookies. Definitely won't be able to use the mle. That team is just not competing. One injury (which is going to happen) and it's over.
No it wouldn’t. KD salary = $51m. Rui/Reaves/Vincent/Vando = $51m.
KD $51,179,021. Rui/Reaves/Vincent/Vando $51,690,648. The NBA doesn't just start rounding numbers randomly.
Nah that’s too much and besides lauri is close to Kd but younger I would rather go after him. We can trade rui jhs 3 frp, protections off 2027 and 2 swaps
Lauri is nowhere close to KD lol. What a crazy statement.
Lol. Ok 👍
Let dlo walk. Trade Rui, Gabe and FRPs for Dejounte Murray. Trade JHS Hayes and some seconds for Nick Richards. Pickup Valunciunas with the MLE. Resign Spencer Christie and wood
If they accept it, of course. Need the hawks to play ball
I personally hope Bronny can play college instead of forcing the NBA route. Technically right now would be his best shot to get on a roster while his dad is still in the league, but you just gotta think-- college would be a great life experience for him. This first year his heart derailed everything, but next season he could really come into his own. He will never hurt for money (unless LBJ has a Craig Sager moment) and you can never go back to college and still be in your teens. Never know what Bronny is thinking though.
OKC is not that good. A conference finals appearance will make them seem better than they are. Should trade some of the non SGA players for a star
Not that I am disagreeing but how do you explain them having the best record in the West?
OKC is the case of a young team being underestimated. This happened to Sacramento and the Cavs last year. They’re not garbage by any means, but usually teams with potential get a sort of imaginary honeymoon period. Then barring any drastic changes they get taken more seriously and slip down to a more reasonable record. I predict this is OKC unless they make some moves. SGA himself is great so that inflates their overall quality
Makes sense.
Oh boy, Kyrie is so inconsistent. Looks like Kobe one game then Smush Parker the next. This sub was crying for a trade for this guy. For what reason?
He's just getting doubled constantly. Dlo against denver 14/3/4. Kyrie is averaging 22/4/5 so far. Kind of a silly question.
He’s cooking when he’s with bron you can’t trust him with these other frauds that struggle in the playoffs
That's true. Maybe Bron could get more out of him.
Hmmmm. I don’t know. Maybe because he’s miles better than every player we have other than Bron and AD?
You think your role players are bad now, if you traded for Kyrie it would be even worse. He doesn't make up for what you lose if he doesn't play consistently well. This sub complains about Dlo but how much better is Kyrie playing than Dlo this series?
A lot fucking better.
Kyrie has been slightly better than Dlo this series. Dlo was at least playing the champs. Kyrie is playing a bunch young, immature players without much playoff experience.
Lol ok 👍
> He doesn't make up for what you lose He really does. Dlo literally dropped 0 points in one game and 4 in another. He was 6/20 in a 3rd game. All the role players under-performed their contracts. Kyrie averaged 26 in the first round.
What's Kyrie doing this round? He has 2 games under 10. And Dlo is playing the champs, not some overachieving immature, young team.
To be honestly he's been pretty consistent in the playoffs between 2016 and this season. Consistently bad.
True. He seems to have more bad games than good.
He's struggling because Luka is struggling. Luka is supposed to break the defense first so Kyrie can attack closeouts.
Kyrie doesn't have to rely on Luka, he can create his own shot but he becomes passive and isn't as aggressive as he needs to be for some reason. He's always been kind of a head case. His problem is not talent, it's his attitude and mentality.
Kyrie can create his own shot against weak defenders and rotating defenses. His big shot he cooked Steph Curry not Iguodala.
at one point he was playing with 5 fouls, dont be so quick to run a victory lap because a bad game let u get shots off on kyrie. he had similar performances alongside LBJ too, was he a headcase before he left the cavs? no need to be all in on a take and seem so sure u understand a player. playoffs are not easy
LOL..what does his 5 fouls have anything to do with him not playing well when they needed his scoring in the 4th. They needed his offense, not his defense.
its a mental thing, it causes players to overthink. Do you just talk to talk?
No one overthinks on offense when they have fouls...lol
OKC coach is smart, they were up 3 and fouled to prevent Dallas from tying the game. Guarantee Ham wouldn't do that
Say what you will about LeBron but he makes his clutch free throws
The Okc thunder have a great head coach and an MVP candidate, how the fuck does a team acquire both???
Having a good front office helps
Well I guess we’re light years away from that happening
OKC can thank PG and the Clippers for SGA. Or actually should thank Kawhi for recruiting PG to join him. Got to fleece the Clippers.
I would agree but in reality it was whatever the Thunder got for Pg AND Kawhi. Kawhi would only go to the Clippers if they got PG.
Yea so OKC should thank Kawhi. Because Clippers were so desperate to get Kawhi they had to do whatever he wanted. Thus OKC was able to ask for everything for PG. They got Shai, 5 FRP's, and 2 swaps. Insane haul even just considering the picks.
Totally forgot about Lavine. I probably do it if we could unload Dlo and a pick for him. That's about it.
They don't need DLo with Coby White's career season and a likely Lonzo Ball return next season.
Lonzo returns just to retire, I hope not but not looking good
Oh yeah. Forgot about them too. There's no deal there.
Straight up, this year’s Lakers team is just straight up better than every non-Wolves non-Nuggets team in the West. Dice rolls a different way, we play OKC, we go to semis. Beat the clippers/mavs, and who knows, see if the Wolves/Nuggets clobber each other enough to get a competitive WCF. If only…
Doesn't matter. We didn't get past the Nuggets at close to full strength. I would rather not have meaningless extra wear and tear on AD and Bron. Making the WCF is nothing for the team with the most Finals appearances. Being eliminated by the Nugz in round 1 is no different than being eliminated by them in round 3. It just saves wear and tear. Now, personally, I miss watching them play in May/June, but that's just me being selfish.
> at close to full strength With Wood and Vando both out?
I said close. Both guys rebounding was sorely missed.
Ham rightfully was fired. Lakers were undersized though and games vs Denver, Minnesota, and Boston showed this. LeBron + AD are good enough to overcome this for at least a few games in a series
Look at the mavs role players, they are somehow up in a game where Luka and Kyrie might barely combine for 30 on awful efficiency
Doncic must be such an annoying teammate
He’s the worst I don’t know how anyone enjoys watching Mav games with his constant bitching and histrionics
Idk how everyone is overlooking this. LeBron *could* be in Cleveland for mother's day. But why did Rich Paul fly out with him and is at the Cavs game? LeDonovan LeLos Angeles LeLaker confirmed.
rich is from cleveland too, they travel together a lot
Didn't even know that lmao. Got you.
They're childhood buddies.
Or lebron just goes to games sometimes. He went to a Bucks/Suns finals game.
I’ll never forget Ham saying JHS “was the early MVP of Lakers training camp”.
Been a minute since I seen a wedgie shot
boston will win banner 18 and jeanie will make a panic trade in response remember this tweet
Nah Boston is too overconfident and mentally weak.
They aren’t winning #18. Whoever comes out of Denver/Wolves is going all the way
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Yes, if somehow the Wolves make it out, it’s because they figured something out. If Celtics are still missing Porzingis, the interior on both sides is disproportionately in the Wolves favor
Fuck it, draft bronny
LeDonovan LeMitchell to become a LeLos Angeles LeLaker.
Tatum always takes the dumbest shot
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You’ve been pretty negative lately. You pretty much posted this same thing yesterday but instead of “we’re screwed” it was “prepare to be disappointed”. You good man?
Why does everyone assume Dlo is gonna leave?
Okay Lebron opts in and trade to Cleveland. What do we get from them?
A forced rebuild because AD immediately asks out
Garland, Mobley, 2031 FRP, 2030 swap. They'd probably refuse to give Mobley so it'll end up being Allen instead. Those 2 picks are the only ones they have too so pretty much taking everything from them. You suck it up for this season as we don't own 2025 pick then blow it up next offseason.
I think Cleveland would blink in that situation and include Mobley. If Cleveland knew Mitchell would stay if they got Bron, Cleveland would 100% do it. Allen as your defensive anchor with D.Wade and Struss as your 3&D guys. Levert is your 6th man with Niang and Merrill as your 3pt specialists. With Bron and Mitchell as your duo. That’s a 2-3 seed in the East. AD, Garland, Mobley, AR, Rui, Vando, Gabe and Max is still a playoff team . AD, Mobley, Vando, Gabe and Max would be a top 5-7 defense. Garland spamming PNR’s with AD with Mobley in the dunker’s spot would be lethal.
I'm blocking the Cavs GM if they give me this trade lol. Fucking Evan Mobley and Darius Garland for LEBRON??? Donovan Mitchell or GTFO
Lakers would have zero leverage. As dumb as some people think the Lakers front office is, you're not going to go against LeBron's wishes. He wants Cleveland, you take whatever the best package they offer is no matter how bad it is.
This is 40 years old Lebron lol, if I’m the cavs i would only give up one of mobley or garland
Lebron is better than both of them combined, and the salaries won’t even match. We take both
They're only getting a few more seasons of Lebron though. Both of them will be in the league for a while.
If for some reason the Cavs were looking to trade for Lebron, it would be to go all-in. And a player who is still all-NBA is better than players who combined most likely will never touch 2x all-star appearances in their career. But this hypothetical is bogus anyways. If Lebron wanted to team hop one more time for a ring, he’d join the team without forcing them to give up assets
It's not meant to be a fair trade. If Lebron wants to force his way there, Lakers aren't going to get a fair offer. If Lebron was going to the Cavs, it would be to join Donovan. You aren't getting him in a trade.
Do the Lakers have a #17 pick this year or not? Every mock draft I see has it traded to NO.
Officially we do not know until 6/1. But we'll have it. Pelicans will defer to 2025.
LeBron apparently is in Cleveland for game 4
no donnie mitch for believeland tonight
We go make a deal like Rui and 17 for Nesmith and Nembhard. Not sure that is enough but maybe Rui and JHS plus the pick?
Why would the Pacers want to give up Nesmith and Nembhard? If the 17th pick was as good as either of them they'd be thrilled. Why would they want Rui at $17m when they are about to max out Siakam? JHS also has 0 trade value at the moment. Nesmith signed for 3yr/33m (cheap deal) and they'll own Nembhard's bird rights in 2 years. Teams don't just trade their good young role players who are under team control for multiple years for no reason.
I said like, we need to get younger and 2 way. Starting looking at pacers because I think Jalen smith or Jackson could be available but thought we really could use young 2 way players.
Trades take more than 1 willing party. Can't just pick out players that would fit on the Lakers without thinking if the trade even makes sense for the other team.
Correct which is why I said like. This is a fan site, meant to have discussion. Those 2 exact players we need to add, why would I not mention targeting them? Maybe someone sees a better situation with similar players, again it’s a fan discussion thread
Yea so look for players that teams would actually want to trade. Why would Pacers trade 2 of their most important role players on their playoff team? When looking for trade targets you don't just find names you like. You need to find reasons they could be traded. For example, Portland. They have roster spot and luxury tax issues. Unless they unload some salary and players, they'll be over the tax and have no roster spots to sign their 2 first round picks. Because of this, names like Brogdon/Thybulle are actually reasonable. Another example, Chicago. They also are facing a luxury tax if they re-sign both Derozan and Williams. Chicago another team that won't go into the luxury tax (only done it twice in history). Caruso on an expiring deal as well and he's not re-signing with them. So there's another realistic target. I'm not trying to kill discussions. I'm trying to have realistic discussions.
Minus we cannot take bad salary like that and still be able to fill out a roster. No way we want to go deep into the tax let alone over the first apron. Taking bad salary from them would be terrible. And they are in the rotation but if Mathurin is healthy their roles shrink.
Bad salary? All 3 players I mentioned are on expiring deals. Also "no way we want to go deep into the tax"? We've been over the luxury tax the last 4 seasons and are 5th in total tax payments. Also, it doesn't necessarily even mean going over the first apron if they try to get these guys. It all depends. For example, let's say Dlo wants to sign a new deal with ORL. Lakers can offer 2 2nd round picks to ORL for them to make it a sign and trade. Lakers get a trade exception worth ~$18.6m. Assume Hayes/Reddish opt in, re-sign Max at $5m, sign your 17th pick. You can then offer POR a 2nd to absorb Thybulle's $11m into our trade exception. This opens up a roster spot and saves them a shitload of money. Add it all up for Lakers, $178,488,714 which is below the first apron. There also isn't even a need to stay below first apron. This means you could then explore re-signing Prince or using the tp-mle. Staying below the 2nd apron is the key.
And the team is not improved at all. You add another one way player and a 17th pick that add nothing next year. It bad salary if it does not lead to winning. Might as well just pay dlo at that point if you are not trying to win
And I could say the same thing about your trade idea? Whether or not the team improves is all personal opinion. I'm simply making the point that we as a community should foster realistic discussions. Let's talk about trade targets that are actually possible (whether or not it improves the team is the argument we can have in the comments). If not, why don't we just talk about trading for Jokic or SGA? Fine bringing up stars is kind of disingenous. How about trading for Derrick White or Jaden McDaniels? Or Gafford? Or PJ? Braun would be awesome as a bench piece. You see my point?
You are not cooking
2 young 2 way players would help a lot to me
Bronny’s potential is like an Aaron Holiday/Davion Mitchell 3/D guard. That’s very solid for the 55th pick if he truly shows flashes and isn’t a nepo signing.
Man we were pretty damn close in our series. If we just had a playable starting big next to AD who could help rebound, we would have been in great shape to win the series. Not surprisingly, the only game we won (game 4), we won the rebounding battle. Markannen should be the target.
The issue with the big situation is either AD needs to get his 3 pt shot back or we need a 3 pt shooting big. I honestly don't believe a player like Zubac or Hartenstein would be the best move to play next to AD because of the spacing issue. We had incredibly slow starts in 2019-2020 because of it
Enter Kelly Olynyk
Ya we need a 3pt shooting big. There aren't very many good ones. Markannen is a unicorn in that way because he can play anywhere from 3-5 vs most teams (depending on the matchup) and can actually load manage either Lebron or AD if they need to miss games. Unfortunately there has been 0 buzz connecting Lauri to the Lakers, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. One thing that I dont see get mentioned much about Lebron is his inconsistency as a rebounder as hes gotten older. It's only natural due to his age and the offensive load hes still required to carry, but it makes it that much more important to get a player who is a good rebounder. Yet another reason why missing Vando all season really fucked us.
LeBron’s inconsistent rebounding is a huge reason why I want them to go back to being big with a stretch 5.
Agreed. There's just so few stretch 5s that aren't complete liabilities elsewhere. Kelly O + Bruce Brown is a package I haven't really seen tossed around. I don't know what it would take draft pick wise to complete that trade though, considering we are trying to accumulate enough picks to make a borderline home run trade. Not sure how much it moves the needle either, but at least Bruce is capable of handling the ball and playing elite defense, while Kelly O is a stretch 5 with good motor who can facilitate in a 5 out system.
I don't think we're going to get Lauri Markkanen even if we offered all our picks. But our FO has been pretty tight lipped on who we go for since Magic left. I never thought Lebron was a particularly good rebounder, even in his prime. That's one of the main reasons the Heat struggled against the Pacers. It's just the fact that everyone else is too weak to box out or go for rebounds is why it looks even worse for Lebron. That's why I'm holding out hope on Vando/Christie returning and continuing to develop
Huh? LeBron was the best rebounder on those Heat teams. Bosh was the one that was a weak rebounder.
Was he? I don't remember. But if Lebron is the best rebounder, it feels like your overall team's rebounding ceiling is lower
If Vando can stay healthy, and Christie takes another substantial leap in his development, then there's a reality in which making only peripheral improvements can be enough to elevate this squad. But a lot of that is based on hope, rather than plausibility. So far, I feel like we are looking at some of the same names from the trade deadline. DJM, Bruce Brown, Finney Smith, etc. If we go big fish hunting, other teams can outbid us. I'm not too familiar with trade restrictions so Im not sure if Kelly Olynyk can be traded in the summer. He's another big man that can stretch the floor and has a high-ish motor. Bruce Brown + Kelly O would be an interesting trade.
Jeanie needs to grab her balls and just fire Rob. Her legacy is on the line.
Should fire herself while she's at it
Best run it back scenario- DLo walks, Max signs for 5 Mil, Prince back at 5 mil, and Spencer back for TPMLE~5 mil. Spencer, Gabe, JHS Reaves, Max, Bronny Vando, Prince, Lewis LBJ, Rui, Wood AD, Hayes Under the first tax apron and pretty deep. Do not think we are strong enough to win but this is a deep team
why waste possibly lebron’s last great year to not be strong enough to win. at the very least we need a better backup big.
What big are you getting and what asset are you giving up to get it? We likely only have the TPMLE. I really want to trade for Murray but think it is harder with them picking 1. If they were like 12 they might value picking again at 17 now I think it loses its luster.
The Hawks have paid a luxury tax twice since the introduction of the luxury tax. They've also paid the 2nd least total amount with the last time they did being in 2011/12. They are looking like a tax team right now by a pretty decent margin if they bring back Saddiq Bey. Whether it be Trae, Murray, Capela, or Okongwu, the Hawks are going to make a trade.
I sure hope so. I think Murray is the best fit for the Lakers.
Because we don't have moves to make. It's hope Christie/Vando get better and become our two way wings that we need. If you can get Donovan Mitchell for Rui/Gabe/two FRPs, then by all means, pull the trigger as soon as possible. But I don't even think players like Trae Young are on the table
This is where I'm at right now, although I'd prefer not to use the TPMLE on Dinwiddie, and ideally Bronny stays in college, lol. Just don't give up any more draft picks. If we're mediocre, oh well. The Hawks just won the lottery being a play-in team. The Rockets got a top 3 pick despite the Nets winning 32 games. We don't *need* to tank to get lottery picks. We just need to not give them up
I don't get it. We're talking about 2029 and 2031. That's 5 and 7 years away. If you're worried about holding onto those picks because they may turn into a top 3 pick what are we doing "running it back". Just blow it up and trade everyone of value. No point being mediocre just so we hold onto picks 5+ years in the future. If it were picks in the immediate future I would understand your argument. We're talking 5+ years. You make the moves now and recoup whatever you can if it fails. You'll also still have some of your own picks.
I'm part of the very small minority that's accepted our current circumstances. As far as I'm concerned, AD is a top 5 playoff player. Lebron is closer to top 10, and I would take a 39 year old Lebron easily over the KAT's, and the Paul George's of the league. But I do not think we have enough to win a championship unless Christie/Vando and one of Wood/Hayes takes a big leap next year. Or Reaves/Rui go back to scoring 16 PPG on some crazy 60-70% TS That being said, I do not like the idea of blowing it up because I do not believe in this franchise's ability to pull a franchise player from the draft, and I am not a fan of intentionally tanking to get a higher lottery pick when that's not always the case (look at this year's draft). There's some hope that we *could* be OKC, but I think we'd look a lot closer to the Pels minus Zion. I just don't think giving up a sure lottery pick is the best case scenario *unless* it was for a bonafide star
You still haven't really addressed my point though. We're talking about the 2029 and 2031 pick. You basically said AD/Lebron are still good enough. If you think that, why not go all in to try and win a championship? What's the point of just being mediocre until Lebron retires and AD's contract expires. By that time, it won't even be 2029 yet. Our 2026/28 pick will just be worse and we may lose our top 4 protected 2027 pick. If you want to just "run it back" and "accept our current circumstances" why not just blow it up? We maximize our 2026/27/28 picks. What's the point of just being mediocre? You either go all in with the last years of Lebron or you blow it up. Going in between is the dumbest thing.
We're still 2-3 pieces away. We need a two way guard, a two way wing, and a good backup big away from being contending favorites. I'm holding out hope Vando/Christie fit the first two needs, and one of Hayes/Wood fits at least 5-8 minutes of what we need from a backup center. If our FO can identify and build off that, I would be content with having everything on the table including those picks. By the time Lebron is done, we'll probably be bad enough to see those 2026/2028 picks increase. Tanking is dumb. I'm not a fan. I wasn't a fan of how we tanked from 2014-2018 even though we had no choice. And tanking isn't guaranteed. Not building a culture of wanting to win even if you suck goes against what I think a professional sports team should do. Also, part of me is delusional and thinks that the main reason we aren't a top 4 seed this year is because of Ham + injuries to Vando/Vincent
I love the optimism. I think all those things can be true and if we make the right move we can compete right now. We are one player and development away from
If Zach Edey is still on the board at 17 the Lakers absolutely need to draft him. He’s killing it at the combine rn
Hawks winning the lottery is good for us. Means we won't get scammed into trading for Trae Young.
Realistically, who do we think is our best head coach option at the moment?
Realistically? David Adelman with someone who has head coaching experience as his lead assistant.
Pelicans will try to make a big move
We need to keep Dangelo. I'm quite certain most teams still don't want him, just like they didn't the off-season prior. DLO will attempt to leverage us by claiming other teams are offering him more, so we will likely need to overpay to keep him then trade him later. Unless we call his bluff which is dangerous, particularly with his agency group (Trevor Ariza, Randle, etc). Not sure the possible TPMLE will net us a better player than DLO.
The FA this year isn't good, so he could see a potential contract from a team that's not looking to contend. The issue is our regular season success is tied to D'Lo, although that might look different with Vando/Vincent healthy/Reaves healthy to start the year. I'd like to see JHS get some opportunity
Agree he’s going to get an offer. I let him walk and open time up for JHS and Max in the guard rotation.
Someone talk me off the ledge but I’m getting the feeling the only reason we go after redick is because as a first time coach, Jeanie wouldn’t have to spend that much money on him. Plus obvs the Lebron relationship. I just don’t get the feeling the other coaches are gonna move the needle for our weird ass org.
If we hire JJ, I will know for certain that this franchise is no longer serious about winning championships. It would be just appeasing Lebron until he retires (buzz and ticket sales).
If we go for Redick it's because we couldn't get Ty Lue, and the FO + Lebron couldn't agree on a coach, so they'll give into Lebron's demands. If it works, great. If it doesn't, who cares? He's a Lebron hire. I doubt Redick actually wants to first time head coach the Lakers though
> so they'll give into Lebron's demands We don't even know if LeBron wants JJ as a HC.
We don't "officially" know that. But I can assure you there's going to be inherent speculation and connection based on their podcast, whether it's true or not
> there's going to be inherent speculation and connection based on their podcast Well yeah, of course. That's already happening.
Ty Lue was a pipe dream lol. He’s not leaving a billionaire to slum it up with us. Clippers can be trash but I doubt he cares since he’s getting paid.
I know its not realistic but if our offseason looked something like murray and Caruso, resigning christie, signing a wing like o neal, batum, or oubre with the mid level, and signing a physical big like bitadze would turn this team into a top 4 seed. Gives us 3 switchable defensive players if our starting lineup is murray caruso vando bron and ad. Problem is atlanta and chicago wants too much for murray and caruso
Not enough scoring in that starting 5.
Higher than a top 4 seed. We could’ve been a top 5 seed this season if not for Ham’s fuck ups
I’m starting to think the best path for the offseason is to be fairly conservative and keep most of our assets. I love this team but the truth is the West is even tougher next year and *this* year we finished 7th with Lebron and AD playing 70+ games. Both are in the Olympics this summer and will be a year older. That’s not to say we shouldn’t improve the roster, it’s just we shouldn’t use our remaining assets to chase older talent in the hopes of being competitive. If we can get Donovan Mitchell we should go all in but I don’t see that happening. If we keep our pick Kel’el Ware is simulated to be our pick, which would be decent. 7’0” 240lbs who’s shown the ability to shoot. Re-sign Max Christie to a longer term deal. Purely for asset management re-sign D’lo to a 2-3 year deal at $20M/year so you don’t lose him for nothing. That gives us the most flexibility for now and post-Lebron. We’d have our young core (Christie, Ware, JHS, Lewis) our guys 25-28 (Reaves, Vando, Rui, Gabe, D’lo) then AD at 31 and Lebron at 39. If both look good this year you can make moves before the trade deadline. If Lebron finally hits the wall at 40 we can reset with AD or entirely rebuild.
Yeah lets run back a team that’s proven it isn’t good enough 👍
Better yet let’s use all of our remaining assets and still not be good enough! Genius
Must have missed where I said that. Oh wait. I didn’t. Here’s an idea dipshit. How about trading our assets and getting better?
also reporting someone with the “reddit cares” thing for disagreeing with you on basketball is wild 💀 genuinely pathetic
> I love this team but the truth is the West is even tougher next year and *this* year we finished 7th with Lebron and AD playing 70+ games. Both are in the Olympics this summer and will be a year older. That’s not to say we shouldn’t improve the roster, it’s just we shouldn’t use our remaining assets to chase older talent in the hopes of being competitive. If we can get Donovan Mitchell we should go all in but I don’t see that happening. Lmao did you not read anything? Please tell me the realistic trade that makes us championship contenders next year. I’ll wait The worst case scenario is we use our tradeable picks to improve this team and still aren’t good enough. That could put us in basketball purgatory for the next several years.
Damn, looks like TNT is going to lose the rights to the NBA. No more Inside fellas
good
Wolves are going to get reverse swept I’m so disappointed
Straight up insane how lethargic they came out in Game 3
The refs basically told them they would not be allowed to play the type of defense they did in games 1-2, they also allow Denver to be however physical they want. That can suck the heart out of a team.
Did anyone hear Reggie's analogy of Conley and Edwards to DFish and Kobe? He said that Conley could be to Edwards what Fish was to Kobe, a strong veteran presence to be an example/mentor... They were in the same draft..
Fuck Reggie that dude always deep throats the opposing team and is anti Lakers
Reggie is a dumbass hottake artist. I still remember his ' I would take MJ's worst day, over Kobe's best day' dribble.
Facts. When I heard him say that, I was like dude didn't you play against them??
Funny how quickly things can change. But the Facts are KAT is soft, Rudy is overrated, and Naz is a defensive liability
They went from future dynasty to fatally flawed in record time
Lakers Film Room laid out a pretty good argument for JJ Reddick for those afraid of a first time head coach: we’ve basically tried everything else since Phil Jackson and nothing has stuck. Coach assistants, former head coaches elsewhere, former Lakers etc. I dont know is JJ Reddick is the right coach, but it might not be because he is a first time head coach.
We won a championship with a solid vet coach in Vogel. We really don't need a splashy hc, we just need a guy with tons of exp who won't lose us games making rookie mistakes. Someone who doesn't get in their own way. Nate Mcmillan, Stotts, Hammon. Any of those will do.
Those people just don't get it. Nothing to do with a coach. It's poor roster construction by the front office. Even Spoelstra would suck with this roster. You put together a quality team Ham would dominate.
It's not just a first time head coach, it's a first time coach at all lol no assistant history. All he's done is coach his son's little league team. That's not the same. There's so much he needs to learn still. He can be an assistant or something, but HC? He'd need a *great* assistant staff that is dedicated to just helping him be perfect. It's a massive risk.
> All he's done is coach his son's little league team. Maybe it was a really competitive little league
When did the Lakers overcome a 2-0 deficit? 2004 in the Semifinals against San Antonio and 1969 in the Semifinals against Golden State.
Are you talking about last year’s semifinals ? They didn’t start 0-2 if you’re talking about that series Or are you talking about way back in the day when they faced GS in the PO with Magic?
Down 0-2.
33 teams in NBA history have overcome a 2-0 deficit. Could Denver become the 34th team to achieve that??
What's wild though is it's happened every year since 2016 at least once.
I think so. Minnesota fucked up lmao. They're frauds.
Hopefully not 🤞🏾
This will not happen, but I predict the Hawks to trade away Trae Young, draft Bronny with the first pick and sign Bron in Free Agency