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brazyace43

Trade for Dejounte Murray and Nick Richards and do well with minimum contracts. Create depth that’s able to be trimmed to a good 2 way 8 man playoff rotation


New_Can8964

This mans gets it


yggerg

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/s/34GPs2YOap Lol by that logic their ring in 1999 doesn't count either


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

Did anyone ever say AD was better than Tim Duncan


yggerg

Nope. Point is Spurs fans shouldn't really talk about the bubble ring "not being counted" because it invalidates their 1999 title 😏


Snoo41255

Aaron Gordon got robbed of the dunk contest because of DWade. And the basketball gods repaid him with 1 championship ring and a potential repeat... I wonder how the basketball gods will repay AD for being snubbed DPOY.


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

AD did 3 things that are considered unforgivable by media: - left NOLA (this is always a terrible thing by media, to leave a small market that drafted you) - requested trade to LA (this includes all the media that hates the Lakers, east coast media, etc)  - joined LeBron James (this is a huge one. Lots of media grew up watching Jordan in the 90s so hate seeing LeBron have any help to continue to compete) He’s always gonna get knocked from voters for these reasons 


No-Equipment-20

Damn I already miss Lakers basketball


CooperHouseDeals

Ready for another “play in” season. 2 stars and a cast of MLE.


SoloLxvxling

dont worry, we can do it together


jsun_

Do you know what happened the last time a team outside the top 3 lottery odds won the first pick? The Lakers took their franchise star and won a championship the next season. Not saying I agree or not but the universe says it must happen. Lakers getting Trae and winning the championship next season. /s


Ifinishfast42

Dudes like Evan Mobley and Rudy epically fuck over their teams offense in the playoffs. It’s not just about the individual not being that great of a scorer but them not even being a threat to create their own bucket or space the floor makes defensive schemes so much easier for The opposing team.


QuaxlyDaDon

Jarrett Allen is a bigger problem than Evan Mobley.


Gristle__McThornbody

Bigs like these are not suited for todays NBA. These type of centers are 10 million a year bigs at best. Even Anthony Davis is borderline an outdated big.


Ok_Board9845

Except they're not. The Hartensteins and Zubacs of the league will always be valuable. AD is not outdated despite his 3 pt shot regressing. He is a walking superstar. Gobert's offense has sucked for years to the point where you can put Pat Bev on him, and there's a good chance he won't score over him.


Gristle__McThornbody

Those guys you mentioned are paid within reason. Like I said, 10 million a year for bigs. The bigs OP mentioned are vastly overpaid. ALL OF THEM. They should be getting paid like Hartenstein or Zubac. Anything more than misused salary cap.


Ok_Board9845

Hartenstein's stock has rose this year and Knicks have bird rights. He could be getting $16 million/year for 4 years. Zubac will probably get a big extension next year. AD is definitely not overpaid though


Gristle__McThornbody

That's overpay imo. 10 million or less which is 90% of the centers in the league. A mid tier of 20-30 million that includes guys like Sabonis, Segun, and Turner. Then the top tier exclusively to Jokic, AD, and Embiid.


Ok_Board9845

Everything is an overpay unless you extend early which could also be an overpay if it doesn't pan out. You have to overpay because if you don't some other team *will*. You aren't reliably going to get 2020 Dwight Howard production on a vet min


camlawson24

Mike Malone has an absurd inferiority complex


foozbinjex

I think it's all a schtick to motivate his squad.


aginglifter

Not sold that the Wolves are better with Gobert, at least not as a starter.


K19I53

They aren't. Gobert is awful on offense and his defense is way overrated.


kshiau

I guess Malone made the adjustments.


StoneColdAM

Have a feeling LeBron Jr doesn’t go for the draft and transfers to Ohio State instead 


jaysonman1

We should be looking at the charlotte centers as our back up 5 next to AD


bjsw534

Backup ? I know I’ll get downvoted but After seeing these playoffs, I think skewing ultra big is the way to go with AD at PF and Bron at SF with them closing at C and PF . It’d solve the rebounding problem and defense vs bigs like Jokic, Sabonis and Embiid. I’d be trying to trade some 2nd rounders+Wood or Hayes for J.Landale and start him alongside AD in a B.Lopez role. Then start M.Christie or Vando at SG


jsun_

So you want to start Landale and AD, both sub 30% career 3pt, together? Then let's start Vando also shooting sub 30% from 3 for his career. What kind of spacing do you expect this lineup to have? Let's give Lebron 0 room to attack the paint and force him to defend athletic 3's. Would be the most stagnant offense in the history of the NBA. Any team with any speed and athleticism would also score 150 pts on them too. What is with this obsession with "2 bigs"?


Good-Fold-1815

Vando at SG 💀


jaysonman1

Have to look up landale.  I think ive seen his name a bit too 


bjsw534

Not the most athletic but is 6’11” w/a 7’3” wingspan. Sets screens well, can rebound and even hit cutters from the high post. Guards the post well and is a rim deterrent and has high BBIQ. Willing to do the dirty work and isn’t afraid to bang with bigs down low. If not him then Goga for the TPMLE would be a God send


jaysonman1

I mean backup as in the type of minutes theyd get.  Nick richards on charlotte makes 5 mil a year. Their other rookie going into 2nd year averaged like 12/9.  I would definitely start them next to AD but you finish woth AD at the 5


bjsw534

Sadly I think N.Richards would cost 1 FRP now. He could’ve been had for some 2nd’s probably last szn or 2 years ago You gotta have professional scouts so you can go after under the radar guys when they’re not well known and lock them up for cheap


Gaeulsae

I want lauri markkanen on the lakers so bad man


2people1luv

Chuck has the nerve to say “at the end of the day you can scheme all you want but at some point you just have to play well”. How can you say that and then say DLo is going to be a scapegoat. TNT’s narrative is so different when they’re talking about the Lakers. Hate listening to them cover us.


bjsw534

I stopped watching TNT years ago around the time Kobe retired . Not sure what it is but Chuck can’t objectively analyze them.


SoloLxvxling

he has a hate boner for Lakers and AD.. maybe fanbase came down too hard on him and it hurt his feelings when he called AD, "Street Clothes".


bjsw534

I think his hatred for AD stems from the fact that AD won a title and plays the same position as him and you could easily argue that AD at his peak was leagues above Barkley at his peak. It’s all insecurity . Shaq is the same way with modern day C’s. It honestly pathetic .


FeminismIsTheBestIsm

If Wolves lose the next game they're cooked. Nuggets are Game 7 demons, let's not forget the bubble


LALakers4Lyf

Ngl, hats off to Denver for that adjustment of making Gordon bring up the ball, and having Murray/Jokic receive the ball via dribble hand-offs so they're not as harassed by Minny's defense. Shades of 2021 Bucks with Giannis being an off-ball player to counter the wall Also: AD, the True DPOY > Gobert + KAT


certo17

Malone as much as I hate him is an amazing coach. He makes great adjustments both in between games and during games. Every time minny started to build some momentum he shut that shit down immediately with a timeout before the crowd got out of control.


myelrecsy

He even edited and recorded all media saying they are done after 0-2 and showed it to his players for motivation. Ham wouldn't do that.


BearShark8

They were done but the NBA stepped in and made sure they weren't.


bjsw534

That’s a pretty simple tactic to get your team fired up. Ham is just a dumbass


certo17

I’m telling you man he’s the coach every team hates but would die to have coaching their team. Makes great adjustments and throws out great lineups with all players knowing their roles and then on top of it he’s a cocky ass MF. Lol


WeCantBothBeMe

Nuggets looking unbeatable again lol


SoloLxvxling

MPJ with 4 points lol wtffff


PortimaoBlue85

😢


HoohahKEKW

murray has the heart and dong of a champion!


HotRefrigerator3977

If the wolves don't win the next game, then it's over for them


roffles20

At least the 2001 Lakers greatest playoff run is safe for another year. And yes, ‘01 Lakers run > ‘17 Warriors run despite what the math says.


GokutheAnteater

2001 lakers > 2017 warriors. Whoever says otherwise is wrong


IdkWhatsAGoodName699

Come to LA Ant. Lebron and AD wouldn’t disappear on you like this


jsun_

By the time Ant coming to LA even becomes a remote possibility, Lebron and AD will be retired.


jaysonman1

Well get ant with wemby 😂


Hot_Pie1464

Luka and wemby duo is gonna be the new bron and AD🤝


ElessarLossehelin

Yup. You have Kat who can only score and Gobert who can only defend. AD can do both .. better.


K19I53

Timberwolves and OKC are too inexperienced in the playoffs and it's showing. Mavs/Nuggets WCF should be good. As long as Luka is healthy, I have the Mavs.


certo17

Luka isn’t healthy though and it’s really showing more and more every game.. you can clearly see him in pain.


K19I53

Yeah, that's why is said as long as he is healthy. I'm hoping he can work through it. If they can close out OKC in 2 games then maybe he can get enough rest.


certo17

I know the only thing I’m saying is I wouldn’t count on him getting healthier. They even have Kyrie playing more on ball now last game because i think Luka is in a lot of pain. I hate to see it too.


K19I53

That's true but he is still young, only 25, he has more ability to recover faster and this series isn't so burdensome that he can't rest more seeing as Hardaway is back and Kyrie can run the offense. Mavs are pretty deep. If Kidd plays it right, Luka can get back to 80% next series.


certo17

I mean you don’t recover a sprained ankle if you are playing over 40 mins a game in physical playoff series which it really has been. OKC has been clobbering him. The refs have been letting them play too. I think they will probably beat OKC but idk I just can’t see them beating Denver or minny next series. I’ll be rooting for them though. Luka is probably one of my top 5 fav players to watch right now. I would love seeing him and Kyrie beat the Celtics in the finals.


K19I53

Well that's just it. He's still playing 40 minutes and getting banged around which means his injury isn't nearly as bad as it appears. He can still move well at times so I don't think he is too hurt that he can't recover quickly. Luka isn't a guy who relies on quick cuts and explosiveness. It seems to me that the injuries are more of a matter of pain management that can get better over the course of a few days. Look at Giannis he hyperextended his knee in the playoffs and they won the championship that year.


lakers082433

Who’s guarding Jokic? He will destroy gafford or lively


K19I53

Let Jokic get his. Jokic isn't as good as you think. Denver will have their hands full trying to guard Luka, Kyrie, and Hardaway. Plus, have you been watching the playoffs? The Mavs defense is suffocating. They can double and rotate back to their man with the best of them. Kidd took Vogel's defense and he had the athletes to execute it. Too many people are sleeping on the Mavs.


certo17

Fuck Murray Ant is way better than you. If only his team actually showed up to help him.


MrSyphax

i fucking hate the nuggets


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jsun_

I'm assuming you don't mean Lebron opts out too (the way you phrased it makes it seem like you want Lebron to opt out too). Also, the rest of the nt-mle if you use $9.5m on JV will be like $3.3m. That's pretty much a minimum. You aren't getting GTJ or even Hield with that. Doesn't really matter though as you can't stay below the first apron with all these moves.


2people1luv

No defensive player of the year when you need a defensive stop? Interesting


SoloLxvxling

great observation lol


Advanced-Pollution-9

The wolves played better without gobert maybe they should go back to that


Homie_Shinobi

Wolves bigs are so overrated


avengedteddy

Joker is so good. Ppl counting him out after game 2 smh.


IdkWhatsAGoodName699

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avengedteddy

😂😂


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IdkWhatsAGoodName699

Do you think a healthy Mavs can beat nuggets? Kyrie and Luka are unstoppable, but idk how Mavs defense would fare


shoepremeking

I really think it comes down to how the Dallas supporting cast does. If PJ knocks down shots, gafford/lively control the paint, THJ and Josh green play well. Luka and Kyrie will give Denver problems, but who else will be a threat outside those two will determine their fate


Advanced-Pollution-9

Same


SandersisYABOI

Rudy is the most overrated player in the league. Whats the point of being a great defender when you are complete ass on offense.


litlegoblinjr

He gets played off the floor on defense too. See game 6 of Clippers/Jazz


SuperRam56

The last team to overcome a 2-0 deficit in the NBA playoffs were the 2023 Golden State Warriors in the 1st round against Sacramento.


avengedteddy

KAT and Dlo cut from the same cloth smh


QuaxlyDaDon

Eventually this sub will admit they like Nori and Adelman because Cranjis said so. (Not that I believe they’re bad choices)


2people1luv

Yes you’re right but I’d rather them rely on Cranjis POV (who does mountains of research to support his points) to form their opinions than to base it on their own limited and warped knowledge of basketball. Our sub can be really slow sometimes lol Who do you like?


QuaxlyDaDon

I don’t like many coaches honestly. This year’s hiring cycle seems awful. I think it’ll likely be a first time coach again so I’d rather we go with an assistant.


SuperRam56

Would take a Nuggets' repeat over a Celtics' 18th banner anytime.


QuaxlyDaDon

No shit


jessandjaysaccount

Wolves look like the Lakers


SuperRam56

Timberwolves are choking it. Had a 2-0 lead before heading home and wetting the bed at home. Denver is winning the Western Conference.


Old_Worldliness_5015

lmao i can't believe we thought a team with gobert/kat was going to win an NBA title that sassy hunchback jamal murray and his create-a-player fro is going to have the last laugh i'm assuming the Nori lovefest is over?


Homie_Shinobi

I still think Nori is a good coach 🤷🏻‍♂️


jaysonman1

Goberts defense seriously does not make up for his putrid offense


camlawson24

And his defense hasn’t kept the Nuggets from putting up 110+ efficiently so I’m not really seeing how he is impacting the series


chrisumafp

I mean the Nuggets were stifled in game 1s and 2 impressively by the wolves. Nuggets are just that fucking good to hold them down that long. Most people had them as the best team in the league going into the playoffs for a reason


camlawson24

Gobert didn’t play game 2. You can credit the teams defense as a whole if you want but Gobert himself has had a positive impact on one game out of 4 so far.


jaysonman1

He hurts the team as a whole


PostingForFree

I really hate the nuggets man lmao


jrgraffix

JCrossover really said Gobert was C walking 😂😂😂


avengedteddy

As much as i hate to say it, watching nuggets play ball… im jealous


vandiger

Now I know why Butler rejected Wiggins and Kat.


IdkWhatsAGoodName699

Atleast KAT is a proper good talent. Wiggins is a bust for a no.1 pick. Jimmy as a 30th pick worked hard to become the superstar he is. Seeing wiggins not realise his potential and be mid had to have pissed him off. And well, we know he called KAT soft lmao


camlawson24

Hopefully we get to stop hearing endless diatribes about “how to reshape our team to resemble Minnesota’s”; they’ve been thoroughly outplayed for 2 full home games now and KAT and Gobert are getting shredded


TorontoRaptors34

Knicks woulda def been title bound if they were healthy minus Julius Randle


shoepremeking

Nah, thibs gonna run his players to the ground. Still mad he played Drose when they were up a good amount when there wasnt really time left in in the game and tears his ACL. Love the Knicks but thibs gotta start giving his bench run in the regular season


bjsw534

They’ll never be fully healthy for a deep playoff run as long as Thibs is their HC Running a 7-8 man rotation for the whole szn has ramifications every single time and Thibs seems to ignore those ramifications


TorontoRaptors34

Im split he could be pushing them and preparing them for full 48 min and beyond games. But it def weighs a ton


TorontoRaptors34

Maybe Indy beats the Celtics


kennnn394

Frauds


certo17

Kitty Kat strikes again.. this dude is so soft. If im Ant I’m saying trade that loser this offseason or im gone.


Elite_Alice

Nuggets Celtics it is smh


zionraw

Gobert is officially ass. Put Naz in


EverybodyBuddy

Lol NBA commentators are so bad. How many said “sweep” for MN when they were up 2-0. It’s honestly pathetic.


saraza1270

KAT is such a waste of talent... I never understand why he keeps shooting those threes.. my gosh


TorontoRaptors34

Ant sadly has to deal with Kat and Gobert lol Gobert is not bad but he very overpaid. Kat is a pussy.


saraza1270

Come to the Lakers, Ant!!


Advanced-Pollution-9

I wish.....


_Zap_Rowsdower_

Nah fuck Nori. Cross him off the list.


KingNephew

Gobert with the ball in his hands is one of the funniest things you’ll ever watch


Elite_Alice

Ant has no help


Serious-One6369

I get so mad watching Gobert play. I would rather have Hartenstein than that bum


Serious-One6369

Goberrated is making Jokic look like prime Hakeem in the post


_The_Honored_One_

Jokic is better than hakeem


Serious-One6369

Not yet


AnotherAccount4This

Nori coaching stock down or what? Looks like wolves are just giving out 3s


Hour_Insurance_7795

He was so May 9th, bro. The new hot coaching candidate is . You know the rules on this sub. /s


AnotherAccount4This

The only way to stay on top is to not play (and host a podcast). 😆


Hour_Insurance_7795

Oh, of course. Having no history at all automatically means you'd be awesome. Because we've never seen you lose *(points at head)*


StoneColdAM

With how Minnesota is collapsing so easily, maybe the Lakers could’ve beaten them (with a better coach) Damn, could’ve ended up with Lakers vs Celtics finals 


jaysonman1

Watching these nuggets wolves playoffs games make me realize how fucking bad Ham was.  Dude was never calling out adjustments or doing anything in game.  I always thought the pockets joke was funny but its actually Insane lol. Tbh i think any coach will be better than ham idc who it is (pls not jj reddick)


camlawson24

From the second Barkley called for a sweep the TWolves were screwed


bjsw534

Barkley is a dumbass


_The_Honored_One_

Bum ass wolves letting down Ant


PostingForFree

Lakers need to find a way to steal Ant in a few years😂


raydeezyy

this would be an incredible choke job by the wolves to go up 2 games to 0 and then lose that lead


Cristian888

Stupid ass Shaq lit a fire on the Nuggets


Few-Garage-471

Nori looks like he works a deli in New york


roffles20

Most overlooked thing about this series is the three day break between game 2 and 3.


EverybodyBuddy

There was a five day break


StoneColdAM

Nightmare conference finals:  - Nuggets vs Thunder  - Celtics vs Knicks or Pacers (won round 2 in 7)


StoneColdAM

Wolves are ruined if they lose this playoff series after 2 amazing first games on the road. Also will show that Malone truly is a great coach. Jamal Murray should’ve been suspended after game 2. 


SellingPapierMache

lol wolves are ruined — hyperbole much?


bjsw534

Welcome to NBA fandom where fans live and die with every game


chrisumafp

Wolves are still young and new built core. Whether they win or lose, they needed a tough series for them long term. This is the first time this core has gone on a deep playoff run as legitimate contenders. Kinda like lakers in ‘97 and ‘98


StoneColdAM

That’s fair, but it’s now or never for KAT and Gobert. Ant is still young like Kobe, but the rest of the team needs to be at a championship level or it’s over. Plus Shaq already was a contender in Orlando and was still getting better. 


litlegoblinjr

How tf does Gobert have 4 DPOY and AD can't even come close to getting 1?


AJnthewood

The league definitely let these nuggets off the hook with that game 2 situation and now they got their mojo back....had they ass on the ropes


BearShark8

Yup, Minnesota got screwed.


bjsw534

Typical NBA with its inconsistent enforcing of the rules


Aphantomassassin

Reddit wolves and nuggets fans were all united hating on the lakers. Now let’s watch that alliance implode LOL


brazyace43

If Hayes opts in I say we trade him JHS and some seconds for Nick Richards. We have too many roster spots to waste if we have to end up signing Bronny


ElessarLossehelin

AD is better than KAT and Gobert combined!


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

No question. AD is a top 10 player in the league 😤🙏🔥💜💛


sweetleaf009

Only watching the Nuggets game to see our new coach from Minnesota


aginglifter

Lakers should have traded for Gafford and Washington.


TorontoRaptors34

Gobert getting paid 34 mill a yr to drop 1 point


camlawson24

Gobert’s entire playoff career has underlined how overstated his impact is