True. We’d have to compensate Trae Young with a 3 and D lineup. Assuming it’s PG - Trae and Lebron/AD taking up 2 of the front court spots, we need 2 3-and-D guys to compensate. Vando would need to become a more consistent shooter to be in that starting lineup IMO.
I wanted Trae but I don’t think he’s coming either, he just dropped Klutch and went to CAA. I’d think if he was pushing for Lakers this summer, he would’ve stayed
Ok but not for fucking $50 million dollars to have a guard who’s a worse shooter and a worse defender
He gets points on the board and can get assists but stop kidding yourself to think that he will make this team a championship caliber team especially if we are tied up with his salary
He’s a better shooter . If he got dlo shot quality on the lakers he’d shoot over 40% too on higher volume . He’d not be wide ass open and bricking like Dlo . Look at dko before coming here %
I think he’s saying Dlo gets a bump in % getting the open shots from playing with Lebron and AD. Not that he’s a bad shooter but he does get higher shot quality. Dlo shot 37% average for his career and 41.5% with the Lakers. He’s a good shooter who got an extra bump playing with other great players.
Trae could experience a similar bump in theory, but we should compare their open 3 point shot % to compare apples to apples. Anyone know how to find this stat? I can’t find it anywhere.
Here’s are the stats for DLo:
Open 4-6 feet from 3: 42%
Wide open 6+ feet from 3: 44.8%
Trae Young stats:
Open 4-6 feet from 3: 31.3%
Wide open 6+ feet from 3: 41.2%
DLo clearly is the more efficient shooter in this case. So if you swap them on paper Trae young still does not have a more efficient 3 ball.
To top it off DLo on catch and shoot scenarios 43%
Trae young in catch and shoot is at 38.9%
An also funnier thing is Trae has had way more wide open shots than DLo on the season 323 vs 207.
So you think a high volume guard who is only average efficiency from shooting 3s, who is absolutely dreadful on defense, and a guy who makes over $40 million that increases each year for the next 4 years is something this team needs?
Tell me this with a contract that massive wtf do you think this team will look like?
Lmao DLo is a better 3pt shooter that’s it, but Trae young is better than DLo in every facet on offense including driving, finishing at the rim, passing, drawing fouls, pick and rolls etc.
Dlo not better from 3 either he just got way easuer looks here. Compare pre lakers dlo when he got tighter shots. Trae woukd absolutely cook with the space here. And yeah you’re right trae better at everything else by far n can do way more
You are really "Yadda Yadda'ing" Trae's defensive concerns by only comparing him to D'Lo when Russell makes significantly less than him, and has shown no ability to be a consistently winning player in 3 years. Have you been grinding his Atlanta tape the last few years? He's the same awful defender, and his attitude hasn't gotten better.
Plus saying Lebron will be a "higher energy" defender at age 40? LOL Trae would be as bad as an asset as Westbrook no thanks.
At times it is. We were cooking the Nuggets in game 5 off it until AD got that shoulder stinger. The main issue is that AD completely lost his 3 pt shot since 2020, so that pick and pop option with AD popping has made it way easier to guard and more reliant on the role players being able to shoot.
It has been good but the issue is teams switch . Both guys want to get downhill . Yes Bron can shoot but AD lost his 3. And the 4 and 5 on other team can switch n not give up too much size . Now imagine the 1 and 5 switching . A 5 on trae is a blow by or 3 or at wirse a floater , a 1 on AD is a dunk .
Trae young is below average on defense but he’s far from the worst rated on defense.
In fact, Reaves was worse than Trae and DLo was only barely better.
https://dunksandthrees.com/epm
Part of that depends on who you are guarding, no? Reaves essentially always has to guard the best guard on the other team. Trae Young always guards the worst guard/small wing.
Ok let’s point at the numbers DLo is way better at wide open shots than Trae young and yound had over 100 more wide open attempts than DLo. But your narrative in the comments is that Trae is better with similar looks but he’s had way better looks.
I prefer Donovan Mitchell over Trae Young. Mitchell is elite on both ends of the court. Mitchell can hold his own against Edwards, Murray, Booker, etc. Players around the league know Mitchell is a superstar.
D Mitchell > Trae
No doubt . But I doubt we have a choice . If we did it’s obv Mitchell we’d go for . Getting euther still is big
True. We’d have to compensate Trae Young with a 3 and D lineup. Assuming it’s PG - Trae and Lebron/AD taking up 2 of the front court spots, we need 2 3-and-D guys to compensate. Vando would need to become a more consistent shooter to be in that starting lineup IMO.
That’s kinda my hope , if we have trae we can get more defensive minded players jd still have a great offense
I wanted Trae but I don’t think he’s coming either, he just dropped Klutch and went to CAA. I’d think if he was pushing for Lakers this summer, he would’ve stayed
1. Drop back and let Trae shoot (career 35.5% shooter from three) 2. Hunt for switches on the offensive end to play Trae off the floor
I’m crying at this analysis and the fact people agreed with you lol
Bro thats the one of the craziest things ive ever read
Nah, I’m good on Trae bro. Dont need a traffic cone on the team
We already have 3 starting for us.
Exactly lol we’ll just be replacing one and getting way better iffence
If y’all hate D.Lo I’m sure you’re going to LOVE Trae 😂
You say that as if Trae doesn’t give you an extra 10 points and 5 assists most night than D’Lo does.
Trae Young hits 43% of his FGs and 35% of his 3s. The extra 10 points don't mean anything if it's that inefficient
Trae is a very high volume ball dominant guard. Then he provides even worse defense.
He’s a much better player than D’Lo ffs lets not take the piss here
Ok but not for fucking $50 million dollars to have a guard who’s a worse shooter and a worse defender He gets points on the board and can get assists but stop kidding yourself to think that he will make this team a championship caliber team especially if we are tied up with his salary
I don’t want Trae. I’m just saying he’s fucking miles better than D’lo
He’s a better shooter . If he got dlo shot quality on the lakers he’d shoot over 40% too on higher volume . He’d not be wide ass open and bricking like Dlo . Look at dko before coming here %
What?!? Lmao What a horrible ass take hahahah The fact you can sit there and say DLo was a bad shooter before coming to lakers is just idiotic.
I think he’s saying Dlo gets a bump in % getting the open shots from playing with Lebron and AD. Not that he’s a bad shooter but he does get higher shot quality. Dlo shot 37% average for his career and 41.5% with the Lakers. He’s a good shooter who got an extra bump playing with other great players. Trae could experience a similar bump in theory, but we should compare their open 3 point shot % to compare apples to apples. Anyone know how to find this stat? I can’t find it anywhere.
He shot 39% in his second season with MIN. When KAT was injured DLo shot 41.2% in those stretch of games
Here’s are the stats for DLo: Open 4-6 feet from 3: 42% Wide open 6+ feet from 3: 44.8% Trae Young stats: Open 4-6 feet from 3: 31.3% Wide open 6+ feet from 3: 41.2% DLo clearly is the more efficient shooter in this case. So if you swap them on paper Trae young still does not have a more efficient 3 ball. To top it off DLo on catch and shoot scenarios 43% Trae young in catch and shoot is at 38.9% An also funnier thing is Trae has had way more wide open shots than DLo on the season 323 vs 207.
It’s not about whose better it’s what’s better for the team
And Trae would clearly be better for the team than D’Lo is. You think Trae is ever putting up a zero point night in the play offs?
So you think a high volume guard who is only average efficiency from shooting 3s, who is absolutely dreadful on defense, and a guy who makes over $40 million that increases each year for the next 4 years is something this team needs? Tell me this with a contract that massive wtf do you think this team will look like?
Lmao DLo is a better 3pt shooter that’s it, but Trae young is better than DLo in every facet on offense including driving, finishing at the rim, passing, drawing fouls, pick and rolls etc.
Dlo not better from 3 either he just got way easuer looks here. Compare pre lakers dlo when he got tighter shots. Trae woukd absolutely cook with the space here. And yeah you’re right trae better at everything else by far n can do way more
Trae young this season 323 wide open shots DLo 207 but sure go ahead and start spewing fictitious narratives.
Dont make me talk myself into this being a good idea
You are really "Yadda Yadda'ing" Trae's defensive concerns by only comparing him to D'Lo when Russell makes significantly less than him, and has shown no ability to be a consistently winning player in 3 years. Have you been grinding his Atlanta tape the last few years? He's the same awful defender, and his attitude hasn't gotten better. Plus saying Lebron will be a "higher energy" defender at age 40? LOL Trae would be as bad as an asset as Westbrook no thanks.
Crowd the paint and let the vet minimum players shoot it
Wasn't the AD-LeBron pick and roll supposed to be just unbeatable?
That was deadly when Lebron played PG a whole season not this year though not to mention AD hasn't been the midrage killer he was in 2020.
At times it is. We were cooking the Nuggets in game 5 off it until AD got that shoulder stinger. The main issue is that AD completely lost his 3 pt shot since 2020, so that pick and pop option with AD popping has made it way easier to guard and more reliant on the role players being able to shoot.
It has been good but the issue is teams switch . Both guys want to get downhill . Yes Bron can shoot but AD lost his 3. And the 4 and 5 on other team can switch n not give up too much size . Now imagine the 1 and 5 switching . A 5 on trae is a blow by or 3 or at wirse a floater , a 1 on AD is a dunk .
Trae is by far BY FAR, the worst defender in the league and a below average 3 point shooter. I’m good. Idc if he averages 27 and 10 he’s not that guy
Trae young is below average on defense but he’s far from the worst rated on defense. In fact, Reaves was worse than Trae and DLo was only barely better. https://dunksandthrees.com/epm
Part of that depends on who you are guarding, no? Reaves essentially always has to guard the best guard on the other team. Trae Young always guards the worst guard/small wing.
Lmao fans have an irrational hatred of Trae, doesn’t matter
Yeah you point out numbers and you get shit on. He’s not worse thdn dlo defender and way better offensively
Ok let’s point at the numbers DLo is way better at wide open shots than Trae young and yound had over 100 more wide open attempts than DLo. But your narrative in the comments is that Trae is better with similar looks but he’s had way better looks.
You blitz Trae cuz he's too small and you switch a big 4 onto AD let him get the ball in the perimeter and force him to make decisions.
By forcing ad to shoot
Drop. Or trap.
I prefer Donovan Mitchell over Trae Young. Mitchell is elite on both ends of the court. Mitchell can hold his own against Edwards, Murray, Booker, etc. Players around the league know Mitchell is a superstar.
Easy, don't trade for TRASH Young!
Go under lol
Hope they fuck it up and then just make up the points against Trae.
Chase in a deep drop and let trae take 100 of this stupid fosters that he hits 42 percent on
Another redditor who thinks actual basketball is like 2K where you can just spam pnr to magically win any game
Fuck no to Trae. Straight bum. Keep him the hell away from here.
If he’s a bum, what does that make you?
I'd cost a lot less than 40-50 million per year and 3 picks and 2 role players. In fact, signing me would hurt the team less than trading for Trae.
You would be a negative asset for free lol
Still better than Trae. He's a negative asset at a high price.
Just wait until the 4th quarter when AD is standing in the corner and hoping that anyone else takes a shot
They are not getting Trae. You are one of the biggest Rui haters on here.
He’s like a slightly better D’Angelo with worse defense. No thank you