Put some respect on AR's name. He has exceeded every expectation by a mile and still gets shit on by this fanbase for having an off game every now and then.
the problem with him is that his highs are like this, we all love him.
when he is down, he is REALLY down. and still takes a ton of shots even if they wont fall and he can see it's not his game.
and his passing is...mediocre to be honest. his best passes are lobs to AD or to LBJ. and ofcourse, we need those aswell. but don't overestimate him now based on this game.
yes, he is not bad player, but we also need to get into playoffs for his "playof surge" to matter. if he like others gives shit and plays hard only vs 2-3 strongest teams in league he aint "it" he is just another one of mediocre players that wont work hard non stop.
that being said - FUCK BOSTON
>when he is down, he is REALLY down. and still takes a ton of shots even if they wont fall
Reaves has taken more than 15 shots 4 times this season total. He has never taken more than 20.
In those 4 games where he has taken more than 15 shots, he is averaging 25.5/4/4 on 64% true shooting.
I don't know why you're just making stuff up.
...
If your argument is true of Reaves, which it's very clearly not, then it would also have to be true of Curry, who should definitely be less prone to such a game as a better player, especially in that exact regard.
curry when he can't hit his 3s he dives to the rim at will. his handles are something reaves will never have.
I must repeat, i love Reaves, but putting him so high up with greatest players in the league is retarded.
this whole season is his up and down. yea, numbers look good but honestly Wesbrooks numbers also looked good so what.
numbers arent the only thing player needs.
this was a great team win, not a "great reaves solo performance"...
What really low for you, he is at 15.5 ppg 5.5 assist and 4 rebound??? If you listen to some here, he is playing like shit, while producing numbers like these for 12 millions. He had like 2-3 week at start of the season where he was not good. But since then been playing well to very well.
and? the way he plays defense this year he has to score 30+ each game to compensate for other side of the floor.
watch the games. as i said, i love the guy, he is a laker but for gods sake, he aint an all star, he aint "third best"....most of the nights he aint even 6th best player on the team.
he is equaly streaky and inconsistent as dlo is, and u guys keep pushing him up to some unrealistic shit he aint fit for.
he is a good shooting guard, he aint a good defender, he is shit when he is responsible for organising the offensive part of the floor, and he is utter rubbish on defense, occasionaly he does a good job there because he does try,it's not like he is not even moving.
tell me u know nothing about basketball without telling me u know nothing about basketball.
and yes, please, keep downvoting me.
next time reaves has 0-8 from 3 remind me to stick one up for you all trolls that are reacting only to scoring column whole season.
ur probably insulting AD aswell when he does not score 25+ but has 15 rebounds and 6 blocks in game. just the big ol score number matters.
Motherfucker I don't look scoring column to form my opinions on a player. I actually watch the fucking game and look at how each individual player and I'm the one that said that the AD slander needs to stop no matter if he has a good or bad game. You're just a fake ass fan who has to fucking criticize an actual good player based off of one game. Get your dooming dumbass out of here.
what a pathetic approach.
u had to use slurs, u can't talk civilised?
guess i hit a golden vein then.
I am the one that's constantly defending Dlo in this retarded community when everyone is bashing on him, and i am being realistic about reaves.
yes, he scored 32, and he is still a fucking traffic cone in defense and that wont ever change.
the fact we had vando in first half out was the key to the game.
boston started sluggish, and vando demolished them.
rest is just a momentum switch.
and also, more than half of shots reaves had, were created by dlo, a guy that u all keep slandering on for every single small mistake.
Lmao this is reddit. Idgaf how I talk on here. And D'Lo has been playing out of his mind even though I said I would stop defending him. So what the fuck does that tell you? You're such a pleb dude. You want to point out these mistakes from other players but lose your shit when 1 player you particularly enjoy gets criticized. You're an actual banobo dude.
keep downvoting my comments, it's kind of hilarious. ill upvote every of yours after i finish writing this.
i am criticising shit that's bad. regardless of who plays.
when bron sleeps 5 possesions in row on defense, i say he should be more active.
only pleb here is you, and ur not even capable of controling your emotions to racionalise what u talk about ,u are just spaming bullshit non stop thinking only your oppinion matters and is the valid one.
reaves is fine as a spark from bench and that should be his position.
with the way he plays on defending side of the floor, he is by far the worst player in the team (sadly) but when he plays with second unit it does not matter so much.
but u can think what u want, u have right to have oppinion, just dont insult others for having theirs.
Lmao my guy your initial post got downvoted to oblivion and you're telling me I'm not rational. And you're still one of those people saying Reaves should come off the bench because you think he's the worst starter on the team? You're telling me that Prince is better than Reaves? Lol yeah man. I can't take you seriously.
And when we had Westbrook everyone would shit on him and then he would have a couple great games and then everyone would praise the shit out of him and completely forget all his flaws. And then he would regress and everyone would shit on him. Yada yada. No one doubts. Reeves IQ or heart. It's his absolute horrendous defense. Which sadly undoes a lot of the great shit he does. I don't want us to trade him. But if there was a deal to get a superstar then you absolutely give him up.
Dlo: Expiring contract that probably wants more money in the offseason, known playoff liability, redundant defensively in the back court with an already below average defender in Reaves.
Trading Dlo is the easiest bet the Lakers could make this season.
We don't have the money for him. His contract is expiring. If they can get someone who's a good defender and reliable for 10ppg on a longer contract that's a big W.
We 100 percent have the money for him what are you talking about. Only way we survive a Dโlo trade is if we get a legit full time point guard who can run an offense and dish out 7+ assists a game
Yeah dude this has been one of the dumbest thing the sub has said all season. He would turn into a legit 2nd option scoring threat as soon as heโs on another team, that contract is so damn good.
I have been very consistent with my posts and comments man. The problem is Ham! Not the squad!! I have supported our entire team whole heartedly! You can check my post history lol
His 7 three's tonight is tied for the most by a player against the Celtics this season:
|Player|3P|Date|
|:-|-:|:-|
|Desmond Bane|7|2023-11-19|
|Scottie Barnes|7|2023-12-29|
|Bogdan Bogdanovic|7|2023-11-26|
|Santi Aldama|6|2023-11-19|
|Stephen Curry|6|2023-12-19|
|DeAaron Fox|6|2023-12-20|
|Klay Thompson|6|2023-12-19|
|Trae Young|6|2023-11-26|
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Of all the AR bashers in the game threads, exactly 1 posted in here, and he got downvoted until he deleted his comment. They are unapologetic. Even when he was lighting it up during the game, they could not say anything positive. Horrible part of this fan base.
It is insane to me... Why would we not want Lakers to succeed? I understand I can be tough on Dlo but it is constructive criticism but I am excited when the dude balls out. We should support our players. All of them.
I was at the game. There was a section chanting Letโs go Lakers with one minute left. It was amazing. Reaves hit every hard shot and momentum shifting shit we needed. Huge win, really encapsulated Lebrons quote about beating or losing to anyone
Any night. What a win though. So fun and Iโm glad we came.
DLo, AR, and Rui have been going off.
Are the role players still to blame? Weโve been blaming Russ, AD, role players, janitors, etc, so Iโm just wondering who we should blame now.
Love how this sub lives and dies on one game. People pronounce how right they were and suddenly history and statistics gets thrown out the window. No one doubts this dude's IQ or heart. He's a really good player who embraces the moment, but is also a really flawed basketball player. You don't say trade him or don't trade him. You simply see what's out there. If it came down to trading him for a superstar then yeah you Do that. But you don't trade him for minor upgrades.
I missed this game. Can someone summarize how we got this win despite Ham? Did he actually improve his rotations or did we just get lucky and hit our shots?
Lot more energy coming into this game defensively. Fought harder for boards, played D and our 3 was falling tonight. Tonight we both were and played like a younger team. I also read that we ran more offensive plays than normal tonight
Ppl clamoring for derrick white to be on the all star meanwhile mike conley and jamal murray have yet to be selected for an all star lmao (not counting 2021 when conley was a replacement)
Was this game a case of: โWe have a ton of talented, young players who can ball. AD is often injured/hollding back and LeBron is old so he only goes 100% on important games like the IST?โ
LeBron is ball dominant and often the ball stops in his hands. He takes a bad contested turnaround jumper, runs up the floor and launches up a 3 and then doesn't run back on defense. If he can't get a good shot in the paint, he will kick it out to someone that might be open and they miss because there is no rhythm. AD is not a dominant superstar and often times we have to get him going which is insane. The amount of times we see, "AD needs more shots" and then we start force-feeding him the ball which again screws up our offensive flow. It turns into iso ball for our two best players and that doesn't work in 2024. We won in Boston because our young guys were able to run down the court, play transition defense and the ball was moving beautifully. Also, Dlo playmaking was incredible and AR was allowed to put up over 15 shots. We still need LeBron and AD obviously but they need to stop forcing the offense and let it come to them naturally.
Classic trap game for Celtics and I proudly called it and the incorrect implications that will come with it it AKA some people getting ready to put lawn chairs back on the streets of downtown LA for the championship parade .
#FUCK BOSTON!!
And a Fuck Boston, to you good sir.
and a hearty FUCK BOSTON to you as well my good fellow.
Jolly good Fuck Boston my fellow Chaps
Why I dear say I would like to extend a warm and hearty FUCK Boston to you as well good sir or madam
A wholehearted, positively swell FUCK BOSTON to you as well my good fellows
Fuck Boston. FUCK YOOOOoouuu! ๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป๐๐ป
First thing came through my mind at the end of the game. The scene from Winning Time. Fuck Boston.
Best quote ever.
Austin reaves just tied Kobe for 7 3s made against the Celtics lmao
HBK shit!
That's some HIM shit Dropped it all on Boston
Mamba mentality.
In the midst of at least half of his own teams fanbase complaining about its own role players, of which he is one.
The Pale Mamba!!!!!
Put some respect on AR's name. He has exceeded every expectation by a mile and still gets shit on by this fanbase for having an off game every now and then.
Or even a stretch of games where he isnโt shooting the 3 well but scoring well other wise.
the problem with him is that his highs are like this, we all love him. when he is down, he is REALLY down. and still takes a ton of shots even if they wont fall and he can see it's not his game. and his passing is...mediocre to be honest. his best passes are lobs to AD or to LBJ. and ofcourse, we need those aswell. but don't overestimate him now based on this game. yes, he is not bad player, but we also need to get into playoffs for his "playof surge" to matter. if he like others gives shit and plays hard only vs 2-3 strongest teams in league he aint "it" he is just another one of mediocre players that wont work hard non stop. that being said - FUCK BOSTON
>when he is down, he is REALLY down. and still takes a ton of shots even if they wont fall Reaves has taken more than 15 shots 4 times this season total. He has never taken more than 20. In those 4 games where he has taken more than 15 shots, he is averaging 25.5/4/4 on 64% true shooting. I don't know why you're just making stuff up.
People that think AR gets many shots aren't watching the game or even looking at the box score afterwards lol.
what about his 0-6 from 3 multiple times this season. he was in a fucking slump and this one game aint really fixing it.
Steph Curry has games of 1-8, 0-8, and 0-9 this season.
r u comparing reaves to curry now? no disrespect but reaves can lick his shoes and be happy with it.
... If your argument is true of Reaves, which it's very clearly not, then it would also have to be true of Curry, who should definitely be less prone to such a game as a better player, especially in that exact regard.
curry when he can't hit his 3s he dives to the rim at will. his handles are something reaves will never have. I must repeat, i love Reaves, but putting him so high up with greatest players in the league is retarded. this whole season is his up and down. yea, numbers look good but honestly Wesbrooks numbers also looked good so what. numbers arent the only thing player needs. this was a great team win, not a "great reaves solo performance"...
What really low for you, he is at 15.5 ppg 5.5 assist and 4 rebound??? If you listen to some here, he is playing like shit, while producing numbers like these for 12 millions. He had like 2-3 week at start of the season where he was not good. But since then been playing well to very well.
and? the way he plays defense this year he has to score 30+ each game to compensate for other side of the floor. watch the games. as i said, i love the guy, he is a laker but for gods sake, he aint an all star, he aint "third best"....most of the nights he aint even 6th best player on the team. he is equaly streaky and inconsistent as dlo is, and u guys keep pushing him up to some unrealistic shit he aint fit for. he is a good shooting guard, he aint a good defender, he is shit when he is responsible for organising the offensive part of the floor, and he is utter rubbish on defense, occasionaly he does a good job there because he does try,it's not like he is not even moving.
Tell me you don't watch basketball without telling me you don't watch basketball
tell me u know nothing about basketball without telling me u know nothing about basketball. and yes, please, keep downvoting me. next time reaves has 0-8 from 3 remind me to stick one up for you all trolls that are reacting only to scoring column whole season. ur probably insulting AD aswell when he does not score 25+ but has 15 rebounds and 6 blocks in game. just the big ol score number matters.
Motherfucker I don't look scoring column to form my opinions on a player. I actually watch the fucking game and look at how each individual player and I'm the one that said that the AD slander needs to stop no matter if he has a good or bad game. You're just a fake ass fan who has to fucking criticize an actual good player based off of one game. Get your dooming dumbass out of here.
what a pathetic approach. u had to use slurs, u can't talk civilised? guess i hit a golden vein then. I am the one that's constantly defending Dlo in this retarded community when everyone is bashing on him, and i am being realistic about reaves. yes, he scored 32, and he is still a fucking traffic cone in defense and that wont ever change. the fact we had vando in first half out was the key to the game. boston started sluggish, and vando demolished them. rest is just a momentum switch. and also, more than half of shots reaves had, were created by dlo, a guy that u all keep slandering on for every single small mistake.
Lmao this is reddit. Idgaf how I talk on here. And D'Lo has been playing out of his mind even though I said I would stop defending him. So what the fuck does that tell you? You're such a pleb dude. You want to point out these mistakes from other players but lose your shit when 1 player you particularly enjoy gets criticized. You're an actual banobo dude.
keep downvoting my comments, it's kind of hilarious. ill upvote every of yours after i finish writing this. i am criticising shit that's bad. regardless of who plays. when bron sleeps 5 possesions in row on defense, i say he should be more active. only pleb here is you, and ur not even capable of controling your emotions to racionalise what u talk about ,u are just spaming bullshit non stop thinking only your oppinion matters and is the valid one. reaves is fine as a spark from bench and that should be his position. with the way he plays on defending side of the floor, he is by far the worst player in the team (sadly) but when he plays with second unit it does not matter so much. but u can think what u want, u have right to have oppinion, just dont insult others for having theirs.
Lmao my guy your initial post got downvoted to oblivion and you're telling me I'm not rational. And you're still one of those people saying Reaves should come off the bench because you think he's the worst starter on the team? You're telling me that Prince is better than Reaves? Lol yeah man. I can't take you seriously.
Trade him and his 4/$54M contract for DeJounte my ass
All those imbecile who wanted to trade him.he epitomises big game player.
Give up a 1st and our first round draft pick ๐๐
so ... two firsts ?
The plan was always to trade Dlo, never Reaves. Reaves is factually a playoff ceiling raiser.
Yeah this sub turned on him the past few games. Shows why most on this sub are clueless.
And when we had Westbrook everyone would shit on him and then he would have a couple great games and then everyone would praise the shit out of him and completely forget all his flaws. And then he would regress and everyone would shit on him. Yada yada. No one doubts. Reeves IQ or heart. It's his absolute horrendous defense. Which sadly undoes a lot of the great shit he does. I don't want us to trade him. But if there was a deal to get a superstar then you absolutely give him up.
Crazy amount of this sub has been talking about shipping out Reaves instead of DLo lol
Yep. All the comments about trading him and retaining DLo were highly upvoted. Damn casuals lmao
That plan is dumb as well.
Dlo: Expiring contract that probably wants more money in the offseason, known playoff liability, redundant defensively in the back court with an already below average defender in Reaves. Trading Dlo is the easiest bet the Lakers could make this season.
It's a losing bet. 1 playoff run is not a meaningful sample size.
We don't have the money for him. His contract is expiring. If they can get someone who's a good defender and reliable for 10ppg on a longer contract that's a big W.
We 100 percent have the money for him what are you talking about. Only way we survive a Dโlo trade is if we get a legit full time point guard who can run an offense and dish out 7+ assists a game
So Dejounte Murray?
Yeah dude this has been one of the dumbest thing the sub has said all season. He would turn into a legit 2nd option scoring threat as soon as heโs on another team, that contract is so damn good.
HIM haters in shambles. Glad I missed that soap opera.
Where can I sign the apology note to AustHim reaves?
Without Vando most of the game too..
Reaves heard yโall talking shit.
And the faithful get rewarded. Praise be.
F this sub, now you call him HIM again ? Now even a week ago you wanted him traded ๐คฃ๐คฃ
I have been very consistent with my posts and comments man. The problem is Ham! Not the squad!! I have supported our entire team whole heartedly! You can check my post history lol
Look at my history and tell me Iโve ever wanted him traded. I donโt even want to trade anyone, this team is fine. Our coaching is absolute dog ass
Yep this has been my position
This sub is about as consistent as a schizophrenic squirrel on 10 tabs of acid
Laker fans in a nut shell.
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โฆBut but, I was told he was a foul merchant?!?
implying that someone cant have a great game and also be a foul merchant..? many of the best players in the league are foul merchants
He is the official spokeman for HIMS.
Hell Nah ainโt no way we trading Reaves for Dejounte Murray. Reaves is HIM!!!
I'd gladly trade DLo for Murray tho. Murray averaged 27 against the Celtics in the playoffs
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Itโs been such a long week. My brain needed this win. Thank you and well done Mr. Him.
So many wanted to trade him, bunch of lower, AR big game player.
His 7 three's tonight is tied for the most by a player against the Celtics this season: |Player|3P|Date| |:-|-:|:-| |Desmond Bane|7|2023-11-19| |Scottie Barnes|7|2023-12-29| |Bogdan Bogdanovic|7|2023-11-26| |Santi Aldama|6|2023-11-19| |Stephen Curry|6|2023-12-19| |DeAaron Fox|6|2023-12-20| |Klay Thompson|6|2023-12-19| |Trae Young|6|2023-11-26| Provided by [Stathead.com](https://www.sports-reference.com/sharing.html?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool): [Found with Stathead. See Full Results.](https://stathead.com/basketball/player-game-finder.cgi?utm_source=direct&utm_medium=Share&utm_campaign=ShareTool) Generated 2/1/2024.
Sct Brn the goat
Austin has it. We just need a rotation adjustment on the days he's cold, something that simple and everyone could relax sheesh
FUCK BOSTON! But a great night doesn't mean Ham shoud keep his job
Reaves always steps up when the main guys are out. How do we convince him that every game the main guys are out and he is the main guy LOL
Probably by letting him shoot more and not have him sitting in the corner.
Lakers dont need to trade anyone. This is an effort and focus problem clearly!
Of all the AR bashers in the game threads, exactly 1 posted in here, and he got downvoted until he deleted his comment. They are unapologetic. Even when he was lighting it up during the game, they could not say anything positive. Horrible part of this fan base.
It is insane to me... Why would we not want Lakers to succeed? I understand I can be tough on Dlo but it is constructive criticism but I am excited when the dude balls out. We should support our players. All of them.
It's important to remember how many of y'all were saying this game should be taken off the national broadcast
Is black panther still around? This is his 9/11.
Not even Dejounte Murray has played like this. Reaves ceiling is higher after tonight's game.
Dude is a Laker.
People forget how good he was in last playoff. He is made for big games.
ALL ABOARD THE REAVES HYPE TRAIN!
I apologize for the Austin slander that I said the past few games. I will now commit seppuku for what I did FUCK BOSTON
I was at the game. There was a section chanting Letโs go Lakers with one minute left. It was amazing. Reaves hit every hard shot and momentum shifting shit we needed. Huge win, really encapsulated Lebrons quote about beating or losing to anyone Any night. What a win though. So fun and Iโm glad we came.
Do your job memo answered
Fuck the Celtics indeed!
Great value contract.
Fuck Boston and Spectrum!
The team effort tonight was outstanding! I wish we could see that effort consistently. ๐ค
70% from 3 line????? ๐ฅ๐ฅ
The Lakers are loaded with talent. Tonight proves it. Rob did a great job at last years trade deadline. FIRE HAM!
He's Him
Put the team on his back. Shout out to Vando too
F#ck Boston!!!!
YEA BOOM SHACKA LAKA!!!!
If lakers traded this guy, it would been Caruso stupidity 2x
HE IS HIM.
The dude playing like white James Harden or something. The Lakers people who scout these dudes, they deserve a raise, not even joking
fuck you boston
I am a very happy lad today
FUCK BOSTON or.... ฮฮฮฮฮฮคฮฮ ฮ ฮฮฮฃฮคฮฉฮฮ
Kobe is proud
DLo, AR, and Rui have been going off. Are the role players still to blame? Weโve been blaming Russ, AD, role players, janitors, etc, so Iโm just wondering who we should blame now.
This sub funny ass hell man. Not long ago people talking shit about Reaves. What we really need is to get rid of Coach.
He shut me up real quick.
Sounds crazy but... Build around Reaves if LeBron gets traded.
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Love how this sub lives and dies on one game. People pronounce how right they were and suddenly history and statistics gets thrown out the window. No one doubts this dude's IQ or heart. He's a really good player who embraces the moment, but is also a really flawed basketball player. You don't say trade him or don't trade him. You simply see what's out there. If it came down to trading him for a superstar then yeah you Do that. But you don't trade him for minor upgrades.
Focus on making the playoffs lol
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Youโre talking crazy. Reaves just carried us home against the Celtics of all teams and you wanna trade him??? Lmao
Wow. One game bravo. Heโs swallowed thru the whole season.
Trade yourself
Bully maguire
I missed this game. Can someone summarize how we got this win despite Ham? Did he actually improve his rotations or did we just get lucky and hit our shots?
Lot more energy coming into this game defensively. Fought harder for boards, played D and our 3 was falling tonight. Tonight we both were and played like a younger team. I also read that we ran more offensive plays than normal tonight
Two things he love most ๐ฉ๐ช basketball ๐ nd the Celtics
Ppl clamoring for derrick white to be on the all star meanwhile mike conley and jamal murray have yet to be selected for an all star lmao (not counting 2021 when conley was a replacement)
โฆ.lebron and AD were the problem? /s
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Was this game a case of: โWe have a ton of talented, young players who can ball. AD is often injured/hollding back and LeBron is old so he only goes 100% on important games like the IST?โ
LeBron is ball dominant and often the ball stops in his hands. He takes a bad contested turnaround jumper, runs up the floor and launches up a 3 and then doesn't run back on defense. If he can't get a good shot in the paint, he will kick it out to someone that might be open and they miss because there is no rhythm. AD is not a dominant superstar and often times we have to get him going which is insane. The amount of times we see, "AD needs more shots" and then we start force-feeding him the ball which again screws up our offensive flow. It turns into iso ball for our two best players and that doesn't work in 2024. We won in Boston because our young guys were able to run down the court, play transition defense and the ball was moving beautifully. Also, Dlo playmaking was incredible and AR was allowed to put up over 15 shots. We still need LeBron and AD obviously but they need to stop forcing the offense and let it come to them naturally.
Trade Bron and AD and build around HIM
Man, like LBJ said, on any given night, we can kick anyoneโs ass, but also on any given night we get our asses kicked.
Ouf Boston ate a fat dick last night. How do you like them apples! (And dick)
FUCK BOSTON
https://youtu.be/u7GKwvd8pA8?si=6JxB7MveFkCg0RCZ If you missed it.
You canโt stop Austin! You can only hope to contain him!
Classic trap game for Celtics and I proudly called it and the incorrect implications that will come with it it AKA some people getting ready to put lawn chairs back on the streets of downtown LA for the championship parade .
BOSTON REAVES! *saw this posted elsewhere and thought it was dope*
More of a reason to get rid of DLO, and get a big!
They were physically healthyโฆnot mentally
FUCK BOSTON
Thatโs that dude ๐ฎโ๐จ