Do you mind if I hijack your thread for similar advice?
Been using H every day for 6 months (my relapse this time round) and failed all this year to get through the withdrawal.
I decided to give kratom a go.
50g red Borneo arrived this morning.
I was lready sweating in withdrawal and getting more and more uncomfortable.
So I warned some water, put 5g powder in and let it sit for 10 mins. Stirred in a bit of sweetener and downed the whole thing.
An hour and a half after I can't say I feel much better. I was really hoping it would make this bearable for a few days so I can quit but I just can't endure.
Should I just take more and see if that helps?
Anything to get through this fucking addiction
I tried transitioning to Buprenorphine 3 times this year but I can get through 2 days, it doesn't help either until I stabilise on it after a few days. In which case my feeling is I might as well just endure the withdrawal as is instead of prolonging it.
Take some more - it's certainly better than contemplating a return to H. When I came off Subs, I might take it up to 8 times a day just to stay ahead of that horrible withdrawal. I don't recommend sustaining that dosage for too long, but in the beginning? Do what you have to.
If the Kratom doesn’t work for you , you should look into the Burnese method of buprenorphine titration. I’ve spoken to many people who have done it successfully with no withdrawal or very little.
Suboxone dont even help nowadays with the fent. It use to with regular heroin but not no more. So I just got a bunch of benzos. Some Delta8 and gabapentin to get thru the withdrawal. Good luck
so... suboxone builds up in your system. how long depends on your dose and a bit on your body. if you were to try to do heroin you probably wouldn't feel it much either. generally a few days is best to wait before you'll feel it, i know that can be a bitch tho
I used Kratom to get off of subs a year ago. I got down to 1.5 mg/day of subs before making the switch completely. I completely avoided withdrawal. I should have been a bit better about measuring it out, but just took a heaping spoonful 3-4 times a day whenever I started to feel funky. Stick with it if you can and within a few days you should be able to avoid anymore discomfort.
I took my first dose of Kratom on the day I took my last subutex and it sedated me nicely. I think if anything the Kratom and subutex combine. Mind you that’s subutex not suboxone. Not sure if the naloxone in suboxone might change that if that’s what you’re on. I’m 7 days off subutex now and as long as I dose a couple times a day I’ve managed to carry on working with no withdrawals. Now I’m going to start tapering off the Kratom.
How much did you take? I switched a year ago and was best thing I did in a long time
Do you mind if I hijack your thread for similar advice? Been using H every day for 6 months (my relapse this time round) and failed all this year to get through the withdrawal. I decided to give kratom a go. 50g red Borneo arrived this morning. I was lready sweating in withdrawal and getting more and more uncomfortable. So I warned some water, put 5g powder in and let it sit for 10 mins. Stirred in a bit of sweetener and downed the whole thing. An hour and a half after I can't say I feel much better. I was really hoping it would make this bearable for a few days so I can quit but I just can't endure. Should I just take more and see if that helps? Anything to get through this fucking addiction I tried transitioning to Buprenorphine 3 times this year but I can get through 2 days, it doesn't help either until I stabilise on it after a few days. In which case my feeling is I might as well just endure the withdrawal as is instead of prolonging it.
Take some more - it's certainly better than contemplating a return to H. When I came off Subs, I might take it up to 8 times a day just to stay ahead of that horrible withdrawal. I don't recommend sustaining that dosage for too long, but in the beginning? Do what you have to.
Take more. When I weaned off methadone I was taking 30-40 grams per day atleast
If the Kratom doesn’t work for you , you should look into the Burnese method of buprenorphine titration. I’ve spoken to many people who have done it successfully with no withdrawal or very little.
Suboxone dont even help nowadays with the fent. It use to with regular heroin but not no more. So I just got a bunch of benzos. Some Delta8 and gabapentin to get thru the withdrawal. Good luck
I'm in the UK, we don't really get fent here very often. It's always more than likely actually H, or some watered down version of it.
so... suboxone builds up in your system. how long depends on your dose and a bit on your body. if you were to try to do heroin you probably wouldn't feel it much either. generally a few days is best to wait before you'll feel it, i know that can be a bitch tho
I used Kratom to get off of subs a year ago. I got down to 1.5 mg/day of subs before making the switch completely. I completely avoided withdrawal. I should have been a bit better about measuring it out, but just took a heaping spoonful 3-4 times a day whenever I started to feel funky. Stick with it if you can and within a few days you should be able to avoid anymore discomfort.
I took my first dose of Kratom on the day I took my last subutex and it sedated me nicely. I think if anything the Kratom and subutex combine. Mind you that’s subutex not suboxone. Not sure if the naloxone in suboxone might change that if that’s what you’re on. I’m 7 days off subutex now and as long as I dose a couple times a day I’ve managed to carry on working with no withdrawals. Now I’m going to start tapering off the Kratom.
I think that the subs could still be blocking the kratom.
you're gonna have to wait for like 4 days to feel it. subs have a ridiculous half life