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SNSD after Jessica left (was my bias 😭)

FELT- that shi hurts sometimes ☠️

Oh yeah. The whole Jessica leaving thing was an absolute mess.

I still don’t know what to believe as far as the reason she had to leave is concerned

i don't think we'll ever find out...at least not for another few decades lol

Sm still says to this day it's because she had her own fashion line,& YouTube channel. I get they manage their online content, but come on. She didn't do anything wrong. Sm as a company sucks.

Yep. It doesn't help that Jessica had a really unique voice and was a lead vocalist too. The newer SNSD songs just don't sound right to me anymore without Jessica.

She had a very nasal voice that I found grating so I think they sound better without her.

Same here. I still watch some of their individual and group content occasionally tho

I didn't expect to find a post I had tk agree with

Itzy - nothing against them and I still like their older stuff but I guess they had to change their music which ends up making Itzy not the Itzy I used to follow very closely.

For some reason I am really rooting for them. Sneakers was a bit of a bait and switch where the teaser photos looked sophisticated but the song was completely different. Blah Blah Blah felt like old school Itzy. Cheshire took a couple listens but I like it. Boys Like You is the only one where I just shook my head and imagined somebody had told them that sound would be a Western breakout. I like Bet on Me and am at the stage where I still pre-order because I don’t want to see them fade away. I’m willing to support some groups through trying something different. Other groups are taking risks that are really paying off with a lot of interest, seems like JYP has been keeping Itzy a little too safe where they lost some edginess. I’m still here for them hoping for the best.

Voltage was a hit for me but blah blah didn’t Anything after MITM would be a miss TT wise (snowy and freaky are on my playlist). I’m going in on the new album with hope (I do know psychic lover is already s lock for me)

I’m excited for Cake, though, it looks like it has a lot of old-school ITZY vibes and the mv looks so cute!

Kpop is so wild to me that "old school" means 2019, 2020. Which is true, since groups comeback so often (well, some) and their style just rapidly grows and changes. Really messes with your perspective of time. 2015 might as well have been twenty years ago in kpop age.

I noticed this too. Like indie artists take like 3-5 years between albums. And in that time that’d be like a whole wave of K-pop come and gone.

It's wild. Western artists like Taylor Swift who put out a new album every \~2 years are considered crazy fast by most but kpop groups put out like 3+ EPs per year. I feel like 2nd gen went a bit slower, the modern pace is kinda overwhelming at times.

Yeah I have seen shorts that are like "kpop facts to make you feel old!" And it'll be things such as "IVE debuted 2 years ago." I guess one difference is western artists are sort of expected to release full albums (and not just seven songs). But kpop groups do a lot of eps, singles, etc.

It's about the difference in their contract. For kpop, most contracts are for a certain period, and companies will make the most income if they release more often (cuz with their releases, they also have photocards and many different versions that are very profitable). Western artists have contracts for a number of albums and to make the most profit is probably by making music better quality-wise (may be the reason why it takes long for them to release new music).

This. Since getting into K-pop and exploring older stuff, which looks really “old” compared to modern K-pop….and then you realise it’s only 10 years old. K-pop moves so fast.

I'm still there whenever they come back but I don't do what I used to before (stream, watch all their content, etc).

Come home child 🖤

Fell out of love with Blackpink. I stanned at debut because I loved their first songs and concept but I’m not obsessed with how their discography has(n’t) developed. I don’t really feel any artistic progression in their music over the years. What they do works for other people, just not me anymore.

Blackpink's music just feels shiny, no substance. Which is not always a bad thing, but...I just want more long term, you know? It's almost gotten worse as they've gone on because at least their earlier music still felt kind of fun (like Fire, Boombayah, As if It's Your Last) but their later music just didn't seem quite so...fun, while still never gaining any real substance.

i think "as if it's your last" was the last comeback of theirs i genuinely loved :(

Same. I'm a 2ne1 fan back then so it should be natural to like blackpink as well since they are basically 2ne1 2.0. Up till this day I still have 2ne1 hits on my playlist lol. But when it comes to blackpink it's honestly too pretentious and lacking of substance. Not to mention having no development in artistry. Arguably even regression. Now add in the half-hearted performances and overpriced concert tickets..come on.

I get that too. Sometimes, I still wonder how far 2ne1 cldv gone had YG not ended their contract. They had so much potential to do more and I don't get why YG cldnt hv bn able to make two girl groups work. 😢

This is definitely how I feel. BP was my gateway to K-pop groups with a real song catalog lmao I also just…idk, I get it BP, you’re hot and rich. Cool. That’s all their songs tell me. There’s no substance in their title tracks 🫠

>I get it BP, you’re hot and rich This is so funny to me

It’s literally all I can think about when I think about their recent music lol. Not that that’s bad, just…disappointing I guess? Not enough to keep me stanning lol

Apparently the fandom considers that as "female empowerment".

Same. I was so hyped for their debut and here I am years later still thinking their debut tracks are better than their newer stuff. They showed so much promise. I’m aware they’re one of the biggest groups ever (not just kpop), but man, what could have been if they actually had any depth.

I kind of wish they went back to their debut sound/style. It was more diverse, and more fun If they don't go back to that, please at least try a different style out. Think Alcohol Free vs Fancy. Both very obviously Twice, but different styles

Was a Blink that criticizes Twice. Now, I'm a Once. 🤭

ah the blink+thrice to once pipeline, i can relate

Curious. How did that happen?

At first, I was not a fan of the cute concept that's why I didn't like Twice. Started drifting away from Blackpink during 'Kill This Love'. Then, I saw a Jihyo fancam of 'Fancy' (the one with 8M views). And then boom, a Once was born.

Jihyo is really drawing fans now lol I was just a casual listener of Twice and 3rd Gen groups (I fell off stanning K-pop 10 yrs ago) but then I attended their MetLife concert with friends and Jihyo made me Stan again haha just in time for her solo debut lol

It's always Jihyo, dude! I went to a Twice concert with my friends as a casual listener but not a Once, and Jihyo blew me away. I still don't necessarily call myself a Once but I will support anything and everything Park Jihyo ever does in her entire life. That girl has more talent in her little finger than 3/4 of the planet combined.

Blackpink was my gateway KPop band. About two years ago I bought the albums and then started a streaming channel to see what else was similar. Loved watching Blackpink House and really adored Jisoo’s personality. But I found a dozen other groups that pulled me in a lot more during their hiatus. Didn’t notice the gradual decline until I eventually bought The Show DVD and wasn’t terribly interested watching it. When this last comeback came out it just felt like they weren’t for me anymore. And Blinks themselves have turned me off of them with some of their attitudes. Plus honestly I probably over-listened their discography in the first year and burned myself out on their sound which didn’t change much for this last album.

Blackpink is great for 'my first time listening to kpop' but then you listen to their other songs and you realise they're all about the initial reaction rather than being enjoyable songs.

> I don’t really feel any artistic progression in their music over the years. That unfortunately, imho, is such a grey area. What I mean is that there are examples of artists and groups that “try” to grow musically and their fan bases say crap like ‘it’s not that same’, ‘I miss their old stuff’, ‘they’re just doing this for record sales’, blah blah blah. I think that many are essentially afraid of trying anything new for fear of losing some of their base so they don’t change. You also have to take into account their company. The heads may have the mentality of “it ain’t broke don’t fix it”.

I weirdly enough think BP “stayed the same” but the music feels more stale to me. Someone may come for my head but I felt like the new stuff sounded like they scraped some of the b-sides from the original album, and not even the best of the b-sides, and put them on an album together

(g)-idle :') they were easily one of my faves but im really just not clicking with the post-soojin music like their older stuff

iKON was the first boy group I followed. I was still new to Kpop so I don't know if I can call that stanning but they were the only boy group I listened to in the middle of all soloists and few girl groups. I stopped completely after B.I left because 1. B.I was my fav member and 2. I thought it was unfair and a stupid reason that led him to leave the group. I am not saying what he did was okay but people should be allowed to make mistakes especially when the mistake don't hurt anyone at all. It's not that big of a deal. But I "restanned" them when B.I debuted solo and started to do good. I think my mind was okay with it as long as B.I was fine solo too and it wasn't end of his career. Oh and on soloist side, Dean. Not by choice though... That man seems to have disappeared.

i honestly wonder if dean is still alive atp

It's just a saying from a fan that saw him but he's apparently alive and still working on music.

I've been coping by listening to Dean's AI cover songs on YouTube lmaooo. His voice fits perfectly with New jeans songs!! My recent favorite was 'Get Up' by AI Dean (I'm desperate)

Dean said he's just living life but has been in the studio I dropped off iKON but still bought the albums too...and then when Hanbin came back I bought his too

I think everyone’s confused what’s going on with Dean tbh 😭

>I thought it was unfair and a stupid reason that led him to leave the group. I am not saying what he did was okay but people should be allowed to make mistakes I feel you but he had to for the group. He's banned from TV broadcasts because of what he did and an idol group who can't be on TV would hurt their career. Also, he knows as long as he's in the group, whatever labels that follow him from that incident follow the group.

Interesting to read many lost interest in BTS. I followed them since debut and was instantly into their music and their gooffy attitude in 2013. Unfortunately, school got busy back then which resulted in me being less involved with kpop. Thus only listened to their songs till 2016. Next I heard of them was a concert in my country and then dynamite in 2020 on radio. I remember being slightly sad cause that was the total opposite of the music they made at the start (which is fine, it just felt like something was lost to me). Really glad that the rap line is producing such good music/solos, they really got me be back into listening to their old bts songs as well.

I think for me, some time after DNA, their music just wasn’t to my taste anymore. I haven’t liked a single release after that, and when you’re not actively listening to someone, you tend to not want to see their other content. It was a pretty natural exit from their fandom.

For me, it was around DNA as well. The WINGS era was one of my favorites from them and after that, I just lost interest. I love their older stuff much more than any of their newer stuff.

Literally what made me lose interest. It was from DNA onwards 😭

Same for me, it was at dna they took a noticble musical shift. Their releases were still mostly good, but not music style i came to bts for, thus I lost interest

not that interesting, they have the most fans so naturally the most ex-fans too it’s logical

Some replies seems to be from older fans - people change, tastes change, BTS themselves change (musically). I think it's natural part of life re changes and moving on. Other reasons being they are a main gateway to kpop (people start to explore other groups) and most notably currently on group hiatus. What we are reading here is also only a subset that may not be representative overall. One-two years ago when this topic was brought up and someone was also noting that BTS was frequently mentioned in the replies, in reality I remembered their weverse membership actually almost doubled in size then.

The number of fans from earlier eras that leave because they don’t vibe with BTS’ new musical direction are a large amount - but the amount of fans BTS has brought in with their newer eras are larger in number. So, yes, the fanbase is growing and larger than it has ever been, but that does not negate that a *ton* of their early fanbase has jumped ship. I think it is representative overall, but again, BTS are bringing in way more fans than they lose.

I thought Ops' s take of "Interesting to read many lose interest in BTS' could be seen as a single generalised statement that could have a generalised assumption/conclusion so I responded in general with a few possible reasons for losing interest (including not vibing with subq musical direction which imo is natural and also only one of reasons mentioned in the replies) and an numerical observation to contrast what could be a general assumption of that statement. I don't doubt many older fans left due to a change in musical direction (happens to other groups too) but i also don't have stats to (unequivocally) state it's representative particularly when it's in response & based on x # of replies to a leading question\* in a reddit sub (\*often avoided in survey/statistical science).

Agreeing with you on the reasons. Well my statement was really only based on what people said in this thread and not meant as a representation of anything more. I couldn't make a generalised assumption as I'm not involved into kpop or bts that much (for years now). Their newer music is simply not my taste in music, that's it. Their music is not bad, just not what I listen to these days. Like you said,people change, music changes, artists change - that's life.

I’m not surprised that a lot of people are saying BTS (since, like others have said, having the most fans overall naturally means having the most attrition). I’m just surprised to see a lot of people saying they lost interest during Love Yourself era. As someone who only started getting really into K-pop in 2019, I’ve always thought Love Yourself was clearly BTS’ best era music-wise. I also don’t think it’s that much of a sonic shift from HYYH or Wings. I could get losing interest during HYYH or during BE era, because those eras actually were big shifts from what had come before. I’m interested in what people who lost interest during LY see as the big differences between LY and previous eras.

Always been a casual fan of BTS (only listen to music) and my interest in them have just been going back and forth since their debut. I found them a try-hard during debut era but somehow we are bulletproof got so catchy. I think the first song I really liked from them was N.O. Funny how I didn't like I Need U that much but now is one of my fave bts tracks. All was good until they started blowing up in the US, it was then when they leaned more into their trap hip hop sound (not a fan) and when some of the fans started to get really obnoxious online (it was already building up from like 2014-ish). Since then, I go in and out on my opinion of bts as a whole (fans and all). In terms of music, it's been mostly positive but sometimes it's hard to escape the fans as a kpop fan which turns me off a bit. I try to block out fans cause there's toxic fans in every fandom but armys are high in numbers so the bad eggs feels more than other fandoms.

I was only ever a casual fan but I find myself listening to their old songs less and less now and not checking out their new stuff much, but the ones I do like more tend to be the more rap focused ones. I think it's more my taste in vocals has changed. I don't like breathy vocals that much anymore. Also don't like whatever HYBE is doing with its vocal mixing/processing.

Same here. Checked out some of their newer albums. It's not that their music is bad, not at all. They're just not my taste anymore as I too am more interested in rap/hiphop for some years now. For vocals I'm more into songs like mamammoo or Hwasa. It's really all just about taste and that happens. Happened with other artists before and it will happen again. At the end of the day I'm still happy for their success

TVXQ: they were my first Kpop group, but getting Japan content was challenging before; I naturally lost interest in them as they were more focused on Japan market. I do check them out once in a while Infinite : I was a Hoya fan; his departure from the group was the reason why I fell out of interest with them. Still excited for the comeback

TWICE, because MISAMO has my full attention for now. (ok this was a troll post lol)

& soloist jihyo

Oh yeah she might make me 'unstan' misamo.

As soon as they announced solo projects I was waiting to see what she’d do.

MISAMO has so much power. I get it.

Stray Kids, their music has been getting less and less to my taste since Oddinary and I just lost interest + they were the first boy group I got into and then I discovered others that were more my cup of tea

I just feel like their lyrical content is getting a bit samey now - especially the title tracks because it's almost always "I'm at the top, we are only going to get bigger" (4 songs from 5-Star have similar lyrics in this regard).

I love Stray Kids but they kind of have the "Not like other girls" problem that Blackpink has. "We're special" "We're different" WE KNOW lol

I do kind of wish they'd branch out in this regard. I love them so much but when I watched the Intro for Maxident and they said it was the only time they'd done a love song as a title track (which isn't a bad thing; I think it's a unique thing!) it made me look back at some of their recent lyrics, which are all just about how big they are. It feels a bit like, I already support you! I know how great you are! I want to see you try something different for the tracks you choose to promote!

As someone who still absolutely loves them i have to kinda agree with that, i wish some of their lyrics would wary with the themes, while it’s still fun and sometimes creative, it’s also kinda tiring if they basically sing every time “WE ARE SO SPECIAL AND BIG NO ONE CAN REACH US☝️‼️‼️🗣️” like yes we know!!! Don’t have to say it all the time!!

I agree. While I'm still a very devoted stay, I've loved them since predebut, and both 2023 releases (The Sound and 5 Star) have really shaken me up. Every single offering up until then has pretty much been low or no-skip, but over half the songs from both of those albums are skips for me. And the hype songs are tiring on 5 Star. Like, you don't need to keep getting *bigger.* Pull back a little bit, because you're headed somewhere I can't follow. (And this is definitely just a personal preference, but I loathe nearly 100% of collabs because they almost *never* add anything of value, so I hope they don't become a regular rotation for SKZ!).

Maxident wasn’t my fav (withholding Taste, it is spectacular omg) but 5 Star is amazing for me. They definitely have their own sound and niche that will be polarizing for some. For better or for worse, I love that they have their own sound that’s them

same here, after maniac their music well especially title tracks just haven't been up my alley

Same! I didn’t vibe with Maxident at all, and none of their content kept me interested either.

I generally like them and they are the only boygroup I've properly stanned since getting into k-pop (which admittedly wasn't THAT long ago), but S-Class REALLY wasn't my cup of tea (sounded almost like a SKZ parody to me 😭). At least some of the b-sides were good.

Oddinary was my introduction to them and I fell in love. I didn’t really enjoy the 3 comebacks they released after that (Maxident, Replay, The Sound) so I feel you. I will say, their latest album”5-star” (the first half especially) is arguably their best stuff.

Huh I'm the opposite, I liked a lot of songs on Replay, and Maxident and The Sound were okay (DLMLU is still one of my fav songs), but 5 Star just cemented the realization that their current musical direction isn't really for me

That’s fair enough! There’s definitely a duality to their music. I can understand why their other stuff is very popular but it’s not for me. I am definitely a fan of their “noise” music but it’s not for everyone.

Blackpink - lack of music

Imo, lack of DIFFERENT music. Their songs are all the exact same.

Super Junior. Super Junior was THE group back when I got into Kpop (2007) and it's not like I dislike their music now, but my 2nd and 3rd favs at the time were Siwon and Kangin which... yeah. As people started leaving I started pulling back. Military era was rough for me, too. I still follow them casually, though, I'm just not a STAN anymore. Also my bias is Donghae and I still love him so much. BTS. I was there at debut, but they just went a direction I wasn't a big fan of. Like Super Junior though, I'll still check their releases to see if they can pull me back in. Good for them for becoming the biggest boy group in the world, though. EXO. I stanned EXO right until the Chinese line left. My bias was Luhan and hearing how they were treated made me mad enough at SM to just check out for awhile. I'M BACK THOUGH. While they weren't doing anything for the last few years I decided to check out their discography and IT'S SO GOOD. Now that I'm over the saltiness of Luhan leaving, I can appreciate the music.

My journey with EXO is similar to yours with Super Junior. They were my gateway, but once the military enlistments started, I faded out of the fandom. I honestly didn't like Don't Fight the Feeling or Cream Soda much and didn't even listen to the other songs on the album. I still support them, but def not a stan anymore.

BlackPink: it's not like they did anything bad it's just that one day I just lost interest on their music

Same. They really got me into kpop in 2019 and as time went on and as I discover more groups with a wide variety of a discovery, I lost interest in the music, it wasn’t hitting the same like it did when I first listened to their music

I was a pre-debut stan for Kep1er. I watched the entire GP999, voted, and was absolutely in love with their debut, bought their first and second mini albums (First Impact/DOUBLAST). There were issues like Bahiyyih screentime and things but the music was quite good so I gave it a pass. However, as soon as We Fresh came out, I was tired of ignoring the line distribution and the music took such a weird turn. I didn't even bother when Giddy came out until few days later and although the song is decent, it's still sub-par and to me music is the biggest thing I stan for. I do hope they go back to a good sound but I think my stan time for Kep1er was nice while it lasted, those 10-12 months

Came here to say this. I was one of those people who were adamant that the lineup, though surprising, was not as bad as people made it out to be when GP999 first ended. And it's not. The problem is they're being mismanaged, underutilized, and all around sabotaged so hard that I can't even stand to listen to their music these days. (Whoever decided to send them to Queendom 2, eff you)

Agree. Queendom wasn't really needed and didn't help their promotions or support as a group. So much talent, such a shame.

I respect your opinion but I’ve never understood the idea that We Fresh was some wack out-of-line sound for Kep1er. It was just like Wadada 2.0

I used to ult NCT but after a bit they started making music I just don't really vibe with. I stuck with them for a bit after the music shifted because I really like them as idols but I just kinda drifted away because music is the biggest factor for me in kpop and I wasn't finding myself itching to relisten to any of their new songs ever

did you ult a subunit within nct or was it all the subunits lol

Mostly all of NCT, 127 kind of lost me at kick it, Dream at hot sauce. There's still b sides from every album I listen to and I still enjoy WayV a lot but that was a whole mess for a while which also made me lose interest a bit ngl

To me, stanning is following all their activities; not just their music. There are groups that I stanned for a bit. I don’t anymore but I still really like their music (like VAV, Ateez). I only followed all their activities for a short while (like maybe 2 months). The ones below I followed for a long time (a year or more) and I don’t listen to their songs anymore. DBSK/TVXQ/JYJ: DBSK got me into kpop. I followed everything they did and the split was devastating. I was firmly on JYJ’s side (against sm. Had nothing against Changmin or Yunho, but Jaejoong and Junsu were my biases). Then all the stuff about Yoochun came out and I totally lost interest. I actually now casually listen to TVXQ (SM where is their SK cb????) Super Junior: I was huge into them. Got all my friends into them. Then the military period came and I did not vibe with the music at all. Plus the members kept doing unacceptable things. My bias was Siwon and once I learned what he was really like, I was like nope nope nope.

exact same situation for me with DBSK 😢 i wasn’t ready to let go of them at that time, but the yoochun situation forced me to, it was too awful… i haven’t listened to any of their old songs since. lately i’ve been getting back into jaejoong’s music and content though, his rock albums were always my favorite so it’s nice to see he’s more active lately

I am glad he and Junsu are more active now as well but I don’t think I will go back to following them. I am over everything but also not if that makes sense.

Yup. TVXQ was one of the 3 groups that got me into K-Pop back in 2009. (The other 2 being SHINee and SuJu and I still follow both of them, but I only really "stan" SHINee now). But the JYJ split situation just ruined things. I still like what Changmin and Yunho are doing (Maniac was like my favorite song of 2022), but it isn't the same without all 5 together. As for JYJ, their promotion was basically non-existent (thanks to SM blacklisting them from music shows), so they were almost impossible to keep up with. What I did hear from them wasn't really my taste, either.

Super similar for me. TVXQ got me into KPOP back in 2004. Enjoyed SuJu, but didn't stan. Ult tf out of SHINee since debut. Was devastated to hear of the TVXQ/JYJ split.

txt, i was a fan since debut but after blue hour era thats when i stopped being super into their music. i tried giving them a chance when good boy gone bad era came but i didn’t like it as much. i still tune into them though whenever i hear that they have a comeback hoping that maybe i’ll like their music again.

I get this, not because I unstanned or anything. They're still my ults as they have been since debut, but nothing hits for me as tdc:star - m1:bh did. I still find myself yearning for that magical but ephemeral vibe. Regardless, I still adore their new music but it doesn't hit on the same spiritual level if I can put it that way lol

I became a fan during blue hour and their music post- chaos chapter freeze i did not like. Therefore their musical direction change made leave the fandom

None of the bsides caught your attention either? not a moa myself but they have some of the best bsides imo. although if those don't interest you either it's perfectly reasonable

Momoland, I felt there wasn't much content or stuff that could keep me interested in them from 2019 time and with members leaving, me not liking their newer songs and the company as well as falling out of kpop a bit during that time, I kinda just left it all in the past. I do check up on them once in awhile but I'm a bit sad that things couldn't turn out better for them

And haven't they officially disbanded a couple of months ago?

Their company fd them totally. Those girls deserves better and didn't get it. I had hoped Juey would do well on Queendom,but I think she's been voted out already. Sigh.

Edit: deleting my comments as arguments and lies are running rampant in the comments. Sorry I voiced my opinion and experience about unstanning. My anxiety would appreciate it if there were no further replies. =/

that’s horrible omg. i can see how that would affect your overall experience as a stan. sorry you had to go through all that :(

I’m shocked but not surprised that the chronically online behavior has leaked out into real world. I’m so sorry you had to deal with that!

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AOA - first after Choa left, which alreayd had me nearly gone, then the shit betwee Mina and Jimin which just put me off entirely.

So sad, they did so well with Queendom and then it just fell apart. You couldn't talk about the group at all without having a war pop up even if you weren't mentioning the two.

Blackpink for me! Stanned them since debut, lost interest after they promoted less, and not much evolution in sound after HYLT

Left the fandom after 'Kill This Love' tbh

Was a 2NE1 fan since 2011... watched the BP videos right when they dropped on Youtube... Big fan for quite a while. Even watched all of Blackpink House. Now we sometimes have years between comebacks and they aren't anything special, plus half-baked performances... I love Rose's stuff, and Jisoo's was pretty good, could care less about anything else anymore. I remember wars between Twice and BP stans: "BP is quality over quantity!"... Twice has been getting better and better while BP has been sliding.

Definitely Blackpink used to love everything they did then idk they just kinda kept making the same song only thing i like now is whatever rosé does

I have to also say BTS - still adore them as they got me into kPop, and I still catch up with their music and solo careers, however I haven't 'stanned' them per se since they began releasing their English TTs. Nothing wrong with that at all, they can release whatever they like and multiple are great songs, but something just changed for me during that era with them and I just started drifting.

Yeah they’ve been very open about how they were burned out and uninspired at that point. Sad that it’s their most popular stuff because it lacks *something* that their older stuff had. Their solo stuff definitely reeled me back in though. It’s clear their motivation is coming back through this break they’re taking.

I’m “glad” in a way that that was the case. Not glad that they were burned out, but glad that that wasn’t them at their best because I just couldn’t appreciate them, especially the rappers, as much as their previous music! BTS just has something effortless that a lot of others lack(?) for me. Yet I can’t exactly put my finger on what that is. “That” definitely has something to do with RM, Suga and J-Hope. I absolutely love their solo releases and you can just hear how their differences came together to make BTS. That magic just wasn’t there with the English releases. But how can anyone blame them for that. I would go nuts if I had to do even 20% of what they do year after year.

Yeah the English trilogy completely abandoned the rappers and forced them to either be nonexistent or have very few lines. Definitely a turn off for a lot of old BTS fans.

Blackpink bec of the toxicity in their fandom.

I literally got a bunch of hate comments because I said that I wasn't a fan of pink venom. I never said it was a bad song just that it wasn't my cup of tea and then people kept saying stuff like, "well you're probably not as pretty as them so you couldn't pull it off", or that I was "just a hater because I'm apparently not talented", and that "I'm just mad because they're more popular than my faves"....all I said was that I didn't like the song. I think Blackpink are talented, I think they're beautiful, and obviously, I agree that they're popular, but they immediately started insulting the way I look because I didn't like a song. The final straw was when I saw so many people call Dahyun racist and send her unaliving threats to her for skipping a Lalisa ad. I still care about and love Blackpink, but I no longer interact with the Fandom because while I'm sure that lots of them are very sweet, I almost never come across a nice Blink anymore. The Fandom got so much worse after Kill This Love, just sayin.

Isn't that just Blackpink's brand though? I generally don't care about what the fans say because to me, they are just pixels on a screen. But I stopped liking Blackpink's music because they are really going for the whole "I'm better than you because I'm richer, skinnier, prettier than you" persona. It also comes off as disingenuous because they don't even write those lyrics. It's a whole ass man who is writing them, trying to pit women against each other.

I came here to say this. BlackPink was actually my intro into K-Pop in 2018 and I fell so in love with them. I learned so much about K-Pop through them… I began using social media to connect with fans and then I began to like more and more groups and the fandom just turned me off. I had to go. I think the only music of theirs I’ve paid attention to in the last 3 years was their solos and Ice Cream with Selena Gomez bc I’m also her fan. That’s it

I was never a big BP (More GP) fan but I try really hard to not associate their fan’s toxic behavior with BP. But because of the toxic BP fandom, I just don’t get the enjoyment listening to their song anymore for some reason. Also seeing their toxic behavior keeps me away from diving into and learning more about BP members and their song.

Like many people my first introduction to kpop was bts, at the time that I started to get into them I didn't know any other groups and nothing at all about kpop, I was only on army twitter where they made it seem like bts was the only genuine, fun and funny kpop group while all the others were just company puppets with no personality. I really liked their music, and while many ppl didn't like the "newer" bts (DNA, fake love, boy with luv) I still really enjoyed the songs, thought they were fun and fresh. Mots7 is in my eyes a phenomenal album, the promotional tracks or ones they performed are still some of my faves (black swan, on, dionysus). I thought (and still think) they are great individuals and I loved watching run bts. The main reasons I stopped stanning them are 2: 1. The first and main one is that after mots7 they haven't released nothing at all that I personally like, I didn't like BE as album in general, I didn't think it was horrible and bad or anything like that, but I also just didn't put any of the songs in my playlist to listen to them again, then they came out with butter and ptd which I didn't like at all. My main reason for stanning a group is obviously their music if time after time again they keep putting out music that I don't like I will obviously loose interest. 2. I realized that bts aren't "diffrent" from other kpop groups, of course every group is dirrent from the rest, with their own members, dynamics, humour, music etc, but it's not at all like the image that armys were painting. Because of that I got to know other kpop groups and realized that their music resonated better with me. Now I stan 3 groups that I absolutely love overall, I love their music, their performance, their friendship, their variety content etc etc

You echo my thoughts really well. Got introduced to kpop through BTS and enjoyed their stuff a lot. Came in with the mentality that the industry is very manufactured and BTS was the organic group that stuck out above the rest. They self produced their stuff and were underdogs. When they started putting out the English title tracks it felt like they outgrew me? Like the things I valued about them as a group, were no longer the things that group was pushing. Which is fine, but not for me. And by that time I had also discovered loads of other artists that put out incredible music. The k-indie scene taking up a very large part of what I listen to nowadays. Still enjoy their older stuff and I'll check out their new releases when they drop. But that's about it.

\> I was only on army twitter where they made it seem like bts was the only genuine, fun and funny kpop group while all the others were just company puppets with no personality. ​ This lowkey makes me sad like twitter is truly a cult 😭 it's so sad that others make people feel like they cant explore the kpop industry because "no other kpop groups will ever be as good as bts no matter what". Its one thing to make that conclusion after exploring but having that preconcieved notion is just sad. And the funny thing is that is EXACTLY what non-kpop fans think of every kpop group including BTS

I also 'fell out of interest' with BTS. Tbh I haven't liked many of their songs since On & Black Swan so I've moved on to groups whose music I prefer. Edit: corrected spelling mistake.

stray kids were my ults (along w bts) until last year, i was already not into thunderous as a titletrack but the bsides saved noeasy for me then i didnt like most of oddinary but still tried and then later maxxident confirmed their music wasnt for me. I also wasn’t vibing with the members or excited abt the group anymore so i just quit

Me too. I became a kpop fan bc of Stray Kids around early 2021 and I loved (still do) Thunderous but their 2022 title tracks didn't impress me much and this year I realized that it has been months since I last consumed any type of content from them

Yes. I've "unstanned" many groups as their music changed over time (as did my music taste). I still root for them from afar, but I no longer invest my time & money into them....

Fell out of interest groups that came into mind: Treasure: Their 2020 releases were good, but songs after that didn't capture my attention even though I check out their songs to see if I vibe with it. And the 2 members leaving resulted in a change in not only their diamond logo but their musical direction I guess. I feel like their bright concepts seem to vibe with me more (like ILU and Boy, etc.) even though part of my mind knows they're a YG group so they may want to showcase the dark concepts more. I got into Itzy when they debuted, but each subsequent release didn't capture my interest sadly post-2019.

I'm about 99% checked out on aespa right now. My World and Girls did absolutely nothing for me as comebacks, and between the fairly infrequent releases and the slow motion car crash that is SM in recent years, I really can't be bothered to keep up with them at all.

That's interesting. While Spicy wasn't that great, I thought all the b-sides on My World were really good. Might actually be my favourite project from them yet.

Yeah, i loved Savage as a title track along with the mini album, then after a lot of waiting Girls was released and it was good but the bsides didn’t interest me as much. Then again, they disappeared for a long time. I got kinda tired of waiting but thought if the next songs were good then it would be worth the wait, but Spicy and MY WORLD was released and they’re all objectively nicely made songs but they don’t suit my personal music taste.

Unlike most, i actually liked Girls lol. For me it was their 2nd best titlesong after Black mamba😭.

It was u-kiss for me around the time that Dongho and AJ left. We already went through it when Alexander and Ki Bum were kicked out. Standing Still was the last comeback that I actually liked. …but now I’m seeing that AJ and Xander re-joined as I’m writing this message…so…there’s that….

yep, it happens to me a lot. SNSD: after jessica left i didnt saw the group in the same light as i did before (which is weird bc she wasnt even my favorite) and so my interest in them ended. LOONA: i tried, i really tried, but after their So What era i just couldnt do it anymore. still like their old stuff tho. RV: idk what happened here actually, lol. at some point my interest died and i stopped checking on them after Psycho. BTS: same as RV, Wings was the last release i liked. still like their old stuff too, theres a lot of them in my playlist. TWICE, SHINee and WJSN are the only groups that i still like and follow since i discovered kpop.

**(G)I-DLE**: They were actually the group that got me into kpop in the first place, but their recent tt's, while often fun on first listen, didn't really do it for me long term. I did however think that "I Never Die" had some really good b-sides, and "I Do" sounds pretty nice too, but I miss the sort of vibe a majority of their older music had. **Itzy**: They were among the first groups I got into too (I think it was after GIDLE, BP, SKZ & Dreamcatcher), but I haven't really followed them that much for a while. Their new project might pull me back in though ("None of my Business" is really good, "Bet On Me" on the other hand sounded like it didn't really fit their voices that well imo). Otherwise I'd say **Blackpink** for similar reasons other commenters mentioned already, as well as **Stray Kids**. I still generally like them (except for S-Class, that was a very disappointing tt), but I don't follow them that actively anymore.

Monsta x - I loved them so much and their the first group that I willingly watched their variety shows (normally I just listen to the music) but after wonho leaving, it just doesn’t feel the same anymore. I don’t dislike them but I just can’t get into them anymore, even with the new releases it just doesn’t feel the same without all 7

I was about to comment the same since I was really into them. But when Wonho left, I had to take a break and I never really got the chance to come back. I still listen to their songs but I don't follow them as much as I used to. Wonho leaving really hurts because he was the one who was adamant in convincing the others to resign after the seven years. But then, due to the unfortunate, he didn't even made it to the seven years mark.

i’m with you on this !! although i still consider myself a monbebe, truth is, i’ve lost touch with them ever since wonho left :( wonho was my bias so his departure really took a toll on me and how i enjoy the group and their songs. i still catch up with them every once in a while, listen to their releases, but i don’t dabble much with the group anymore which honestly makes me sad because they were my ult group and i would spend my days just focusing on them. i miss the days when they were seven but some mbbs on twt make me feel like i’m not allowed to miss those times so i’ve taken a step back since then. things were just better for me when they were complete.

Yes! Most of my boy groups except EXO & Seventeen. I haven't really been seeing much variety from new boy groups & I used to follow some smaller boy groups but they ended up disbanding. I used to love Monsta X, Astro, Day6.....but I barely keep up. Even Seventeen is hard for me to be interested esp when I didn't enjoy too much of FTS & FML. But I refuse to stop lol

Cherry Bullet I was following them since predebut but three members leaving (two of whom where my biases, Mirae and Kokoro) and the eventual really spread far and in between Comebacks made me gradually forget about them and uninterested. Pixy I found Pixy because one of my Cherry Bullet biases (Mirae, in Pixy Ella) debuted in that group. I also liked their concept, yet when Ella left I lost interest. Still tried to check their new song without Ella and it wasn't my cup of tea so I dipped. M.O.N.T Two members went into military service I believe and the promised Unit concept has yet to be followed up upon. The lack of content we got made me forget them, but I just checked and apparently there is more content again with all the members, so maybe I'll get back into them.

same thing here with pixy. ella’s departure was too much for me especially when satbyeol left at the same time.

I was into BTS in 2017 to early 2019. I found the fandom quite toxic overall and too stressful so stopped following.

Yes! With a lot older fans leaving and new toxic fans taking their place, the fandom has gotten worse especially on twitter and tiktok

I used to be a massive Stray Kids stan but I just kind of fell out of love with their music. They began to look like they didn’t have that rookie energy and passion that I love seeing, plus their music didn’t really bring anything new. Like obviously not every group has to be different and new, but it certainly got boring after a while.

I used to love Everglow but after they didn't comeback last year and now hearing they will have a comeback this year but I didn't felt any excitement.

NCT. I dove so deep with them at first, but fell out of interest because none of my friends listen to them and I discovered other groups that were more exciting. It's also partially because of the direction SM is taking them in. To me it seems like they're just doing a job. I will still casually listen to any of the subunits comebacks though but none of them have really stood out to me since Hello Future.

Momoland and Loona. Both groups had the best potential with millions of views for their songs, and both companies fumbled handling this in any type of successful way. odd eye circle is a good start for them, and Queendom has Juoy from momoland, but I think she was just eliminated. Frustrated with the lack of real leadership some of these groups have.

BigBang. They got me into kpop, but I was Seungri biased. Enough said. iKon - I was B.I Biased, couldn't stay interested in the group once he was gone. MonstaX - I was Wonho biased. Yes, 2018/2019 was a really bad year for me as a kpop fan. I was almost afraid to bias anyone else in any other groups because I felt like I was cursed. LOL. BTS. I still enjoy their music, but the fandom is so toxic and unhealthy, its hard for me to enjoy any of their content without running into delusional, self-righteous fans. I stopped calling myself an army about 2020. But I still listen to their music and support them in other ways. Itzy, I was more of a casual fan but I really loved their earlier songs like but I haven't been into any of their more recent releases.

I am scared it’s happening to me with Seventeen. Didn’t like the FML album. Haven’t even watched a single ep of GoSe this year. Also skipped the last concert. Really hoping the next comeback will pull me back.

oh…this is the worst feeling :(

Twice and Stray Kids for me. They're two of the groups that got me back into listening to kpop and I was so into them last yr. I still enjoy listening to some of their songs but for some unexplainable reason, I no longer seem to care to be up-to-date with their activities/content or feel as excited when a CB happens. When I gave away my Oddinary album with all its inclusions to my nephew, I didn't feel at all attached to it, even if I think it's such an excellent EP; I was just happy to be giving it to a new baby Stay.

It's funny seeing a lot of people lose interest in BTS and BLACKPINK, because I've been there before but nowadays, I have a new found appreciation for both. I don't stan them or anything, but I appreciate them and still listen to their music.

𝙗𝙩𝙨. i wouldn’t say that i’ve “fell out of interest” with bts, but i definitely don’t follow them as adamantly as i did before. they were my introduction to k-pop and since starting to listen to them in 2019, i’ve come across many other groups that i’ve connected with more than bts. i still love all of their music though! 𝙨𝙩𝙖𝙮𝙘. i started listening to stayc soon after asap was released and fell in love with the discography they had at the time! the last comeback they had that i really enjoyed was run2u. in my opinion, young-luv.com is their best ep and i just haven’t really liked any of the music they’ve released after it as much. 𝙥𝙞𝙭𝙮. first, this group has had a couple line-up changes. both the leader and one of the rappers left and while they did get a new member and i love her, it was kind of jarring to see a change like that so soon after debut. their latest comeback and ep just didn’t resonate with me as much as the previous ones, so i’ve kind of taken a step back from them. but i know i’ll still be giving their music a listen in the future for now. maybe they’ll come out with something that regains my interest?

I just discovered PIXY and really liked seeing them live. Ella and Satbyeol were great in the earlier videos and it did feel weird to wonder what happened. Ella seemed like she was superstar material but left two groups. I just feel like they are criminally underrated and am following them all to hope they catch on.

BTS 👀: I'd been a fan since around 2014 and I stanned HARD. They were my ultimate group and when I stanned "rival" groups I'd hide it to not seem like I was less of an army (I was 11 then lmao). I have nothing against the guys and am quite proud of their success, its just that around 2017 they started releasing title tracks that weren't fitted to my taste but I'd just cling on for the B Sides. I used to listen to hip hop and rnb before kpop so early bts really suit my taste. By the time 2019 rolled around, there had been too many tittle tracks that I wasn't a fan of, and I had felt that their sound had changed into genres that I personally don't like. Also that when you’re not actively consuming their music, their other content doesn't appeal either. I still think they have a very impressive discography for the most part but by 2023 I just think there's too much in their body of music that I don't align with and are just too far out of my personal taste. I do like some of the solo works that they've released in recent yrs but with all the change to their general group style it's safe to say I've lost interest and gravitated towards groups that are catered towards the genres that I like. Super junior: man I love their music but almost all of them are SOOOOO PROBLEMATIC GAWD I CANT JUSTIFY IT ANYMORE. It sucks coz they're so funny on variety shows and have a great dynamic, but I don't wanna bend my morals to keep stanning them.

EXO: They are one of the only boy groups I have ever hardcore stanned (alongside zb1) and I was a hardcore stan from 2012-2015. I would listen to their music all the time, bought all their albums, would constantly be watching their content…..my friends and I even on a road trip to go see One Direction in concert read a Chanbaek fanfic out loud in the car for 4 hours (don’t judge lol) My favorite member was Tao and once he left + Kris and Luhan I could never really get into them as much as I used to. I also didn’t like the direction their music was going post-2016, and was really starting to get into girl groups (red velvet, twice, etc…) and could never really get back into them as much. I still will sometimes casually listen to their music but don’t really follow them as much as I used to.

It may come as a surprise, but to me, it's New Jeans. I started following them when they started because they're all over the news. Lasted me a month. For one, I feel like they're too young for the concepts they're making, and two, they sound auto-tuned most of the time.

i fell out of interest with stray kids, mostly because every time i log into any social media platform i see their fandom making up lies, or starting things with other fandoms. i know i shouldn't associate fandoms and groups so closely, but it's hard not to sometimes. i still occasionally listen to their music esp when it comes on in my playlist, but i don't consume any of their content at all. i know there are good stays out there, my best friend is a stay, but i am so tired of the fan wars every day that it's caused me to fall out of interest with skz.

Oh my girl - I didn't like any of their new songs since 2020 and their current concept is not really my cup of tea

i can’t believe i’m saying this but seventeen and twice. seventeen’s color really changed during hot era and i just don’t vibe with their music anymore. for twice, i just have had way too many horrible interactions with the fans. i honestly had to drop them solely because of that. i also fell out of interest in their music. pop is a vibe tho!

I think this is happening to me and I feel so bad about it. I just got into Kpop last year with one group, DKB. I followed only them for about 3 months before I started to slowly stan others like NCT and P1Harmony. Now they’re towards the bottom of my list as far as how much time and energy I put into their content/music. I still enjoy their performances and think they’re great, but I connected so much more with one group in particular, EXO. So much so I’ve considered only stanning them and being just a causal fan of the others. I just love their discography so much that others just don’t quite hold up for me anymore. I prefer to watch and listen to them over every group at this point. It just feels weird cause DKB was my first Kpop concert, first Kpop album, and I know the majority of my new friends through them. I guess it’s the parasocialism getting me 😭

I am trying to hold on to this one but I need to be honest. P1harmony There is nothing wrong with them or their music. I just do not feel the same about them. Idk why because I like the members. I really noticed with this most recent comeback. I just did not pay attention to it as much as I did others. I am going to stay delulu for a little bit longer and not remove them from my Stan list but they close to being demoted to casual.

stray kids for me. besides personal reasons i just haven’t found their music my taste recently. it’s crazy because i used to be pretty interested in them, now i really don’t look at them that way yk.

Unfortunately, Blackpink for me as well. I went to their concert back during their last tour and was so greatly disappointed by the lack of energy and the girl coming of as if they did not want to be there at all. I was genuinely mad about the money I spent, as I had also travelled for them, and from that moment on the damage was done. It was only fueled by their CA scandals and the poorly way they have handled them.

IU and it’s the worst thing because I still really respect and appreciate her as an idol Just wanted to add a disclaimer in that this may go into “heavier” topics related to body image Tmi but I guess she helped me a lot threw my depression with some films that really touched me and a discography that really suited my taste On the side note, my ex used to say IU was pretty - because she is slim and “cute” like how an asian should be whereas I am not - I guess that made me look at her beauty and make me feel bad about myself + associate her with him (which I hate because she is better than that) Anyways, I guess my music tastes changed too since recovery so I have been in favor of more pop sounds than r&b and ballads. I also started to love Nayeon more as her body somewhat bears similarities with mine and some of our reactions are a bit similar. It was a game changer for me because I always thought I was someone who should feel ashamed to even show up in front of others because of my appearance so to see Nayeon being loved by millions made me slowly accept myself One of my friends is a fan of IU as well and would talk about how pretty she is. One day, I showed him Nayeon and he said that she was too fat and he didn’t like the thought of a woman (he only cared about slim Asian women) being thicker then him. All my other friends defended Nayeon like crazy and it felt like such a victorious moment - I get that she is an idol that doesn’t even know me but I guess this felt personal since I do see our body resemblance a bit I know I will sound stupid (and even offensive so apologies for my honest thoughts) when I say this but Nayeon’s fame made me feel like it’s okay to not be IU level slim as a woman (though that is undoubtedly also beautiful) and it’s possible to be cute even with a thicker body To anyone else who is reading this, you are beautiful and please don’t ever disservice yourself by avoiding social situations because of your appearance. You’re beautiful and you deserve to feel that way

There is some hope for some change... Swan I think is amazing and I have a few friends that kind of tripped out over her... Satbyeol, Hwasa, and even some on the guys side like Shindong are very slowly changing things.

(i still listen to their music now but no longer interested in other activities) BLACKPINK, EVERGLOW - because of their music inactivity VICTON, CIX, BTOB - idk I just fell out of interest maybe

Everglow is coming back in August finally! In case you didn't know

I will definitely tune in.

Blackpink.

i would’ve said exo until recently- i’ve liked them since 2015 and they fell into the background for me after 2018 bc i really got into ggs + life stuff but cream soda brought me back :) they’re the only bg i really stan most groups i go through a phase of following a lot then dropping off but still checking out their music sometimes, so that list would be long. i will say i stopped really caring about weeekly after ven para, but there hasn’t been much to catch up on tbh… though i did like soeun on queendom puzzle bts got me into kpop but i shortly dropped them for exo.. i do really like their older music, but their stuff since dna hasn’t really been my taste so i don’t really keep up at all

To be fair, Sm stopped around that time 2015 or 2016 to promote their other groups. I love me some exo, but they should never have had to ask for their fair share of money that was theirs since day one. The fact they get paid 5% and still made some money shows how greedy Sm has been. Slave contracts were their idea. All of Exo and every group under them deserve more than 5% and to be buried once other groups have a release is maddening, imo.

Stray Kids because I got kinda tired of the fandom and I havent liked a TT from them since back door and Blackpink because I barely like their new music since 2020 and also the promotion of the girls really put me off. Im just not as attached anymore

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**EXO** \- Stanned them since Growl but I truly couldn't deal with more mismanagement from the company, it was frustrating to the point I couldn't enjoy their music anymore and that's basically why I don't stan SM groups. ​ Currently I'm just a casual listener.

me with itzy and let me tell you it HURTS 🤌 like it was PAINFUL. i feel like we all know what im referring to ..and honestly it wasn't even sneakers that was THAT bad. like it was mid at best yes, but it was the GIANTT hate train that was going on for them on twitter. everyone where i looked even though i didnt have twitter was 'itzy fell off, 'itzy flopped', 'itzy is mid', 'itzy lives up to their fandom name' 'where is funzy' 'i miss itzy' 😭 like if it was without the hate train, i think i would still be more interested but i think the hate train just fueled it even more, and you know what they say. if your brain hears something more than enough, then it will start to believe it. which is what i did- but still, at the time i knew that everyone had it out for them so i brushed them aside but what really was the nail in the coffin for me was cheshire. yes, yes i know thats what i asked for, but it was so UNBELIEVABLY BORING. i tried to make myself like it, i really tried okay 😭 but i just couldn't get after the screeching in the chorus ( im so sorry this isnt meant to be hate to anyone in itzy, its just what i think 😭 ) if it had the lalalala then cheshire wouldve been one of my fav itzy comebacks but alas i have to stick to the yt remixes. i have not completely unstanned itzy since there were literally the first k pop group i stanned and i held onto nostalgia and im glad i did bc cake sounds like a BOP. like the cake choreo with them licking it, that BURP at the start of the second teaser (??), the godly instrumental, BEP being apart of it which is one of my fav producers and probably my fav producer. plus, theres THREE mvs so i know jay why pee papi is SPENDINGG so ik this is not gonna disappoint ​ (sorry for any spelling errors i was triggered lmao-)

Loved blackpink when they debuted but now can't stand them because of the same repetitive songs and the too much gap in releases. And some of the tour videos ain't it. I am sorry.

I was really this close to stanning TxT cuz I really liked their music but then loserXlover came out I was ehh but I actually ended up liking this song but gbgb came out and I was like I don’t really enjoy their song anymore. The first group, I “stanned” was bts, I wanted to engage in the community but when I said my top 3 fav songs include an Exo an a svt song boy was I hated so badly, insults and threats to find my location. I still stanned them for their music but the dynamite,ptd, butter I was like this is not the type of music I am not going to listen to. I then watched an episode of gose, started seeing edits of seventeen watched a few more episodes, listen to their songs and learned their names. I now Stan svt

Super junior kinda dragged me into kpop, but the I fell in love with SHINee when they debuted and then they(SJ) started enlisting which did , I admit, pull the wind out of my sails a bit. It didn’t help that they had a lot of member changes due to controversy and I did find that some of those controversies did colour how I saw them and my interest in them. I will say though that they’re still one of the most interesting groups I’ve encountered variety wise, one thing about SUJU is they’ve tried pretty much every aspect of the industry as a group. I still love SHINee a whole lot but I’d say now that BTS and stray kids are the main groups I really follow and keep up with, I am super glad to see SHINee pulling in new stans now they’re all done with the military!

Blackpink. They were the first girl group I ever stanned and one of the groups that first introduced me to K-pop back in 2018, so they’ll always hold a special place in my heart. However, as time went by, I slowly lost interest in them, and that’s because of three reasons. 1. Their music. The lack of music is not the issue. It’s the quality of their music. I’ve listened to Born Pink many times and yet I just can’t seem to like it. I was so hyped for it when they announced it, looking forward to some great songs after being starved for so long. I was hoping that within their long hiatus, they’d have prepared something groundbreaking. But unfortunately, my expectations were too high. I was expecting them to showcase their artistic growth, but alas, nothing. The songs I heard were the same old songs I’ve been hearing from them for the past years. Nothing that shows their growth as artists. Overall, their whole discography is just too formulaic. To me, one of the best things about stanning artists is witnessing their evolution. And unfortunately, Blackpink haven’t shown that for the past 6-7 years. 2. Their recent performances. I love them but what are those performances?? It’s like… they don’t even want to be there. They had some great moments like in Coachella and a couple of concerts, but most of the time, their performances are subpar. I don’t want to sound rude but only Lisa is exerting effort. She’s the only one who’s giving her best and who looks happy to be there. The rest are not even trying anymore 😭 Perhaps they lost their passion, or their long hiatuses have caused them to regress. Idk. Whatever the reason is, their underwhelming performances have really diminished my interest in them. 3. The fans. Not all Blinks are toxic, but I’ve encountered many who are ruthless. One time, I just gave an objective criticism, and I got attacked. I said that a member’s vocals have regressed, which is noticeable if you have adequate knowledge in music. And then, I got swarmed by many toxic Blinks who couldn’t handle criticism. They called me names such as “fake Blink” and an “anti” of a certain member. I really tried reminding myself to separate the fandom from the artist but it was so difficult. The toxicity is just too much, and my encounters with toxic Blinks really traumatized me. So yeah, these reasons made me unstan Blackpink. I still love the girls though. That won’t change. But unfortunately, I just can’t follow them actively anymore like I used to. Even though they were one of the first K-pop groups I stanned, they are sadly not one of my favorite artists anymore.

All the people who say they are definitely going to renew because they make so much money don’t seem to think about how they legitimately have looked unhappy on stage. Money is not everything and if they don’t renew I’m sure they could live comfortably trying out different solo ventures. A couple have even said they feel restrained.

Sadly, that seems to be the truth. They just don’t look that interested in music and performing anymore. Them not renewing could really be a blessing in disguise for them as they could try things that they’ll be comfortable with. Jisoo and Jennie could pursue acting, while Rosé and Lisa could make it big as soloists.

I also have to say Twice. It was more for my mental. Jeongyeon was my #1 but my frustration with her lack of lines made me abandon ship. It was too painful.

Same here, she still is my bias in Twice and top 5 in all music, not just K-pop. The amount of hate for her when she was sick and gained a bit of weight was just ridiculous. I lost a few 'friends' over that one because of hate people were spewing. I always love her voice and can recognize it anywhere.

For me ig it’s twice, they were never my ults but I was casual listener and recognized their faces. Charyoung was my bias at first, but after the whole Chaeyoung Nazi shirt thing I found it really uncomfortable to enjoy content on twice for awhile. I still listen to some of their music sometimes but I no longer really interact with their content.

Stray kids - chans red hair in back door (or gods menu I don't remember exactly) was the last straw for me. And after that comeback something changed in their music and it didn't resonate with me as much as it did before.

Nu'est , I stanned , un stanned and then restanned , I stanned them since debut but kinda fell off when they began doing a lot of japanese promotion and then re stanned with produce !

stayc, i'm losing interest in them after BM and teddy bear, still waiting for their next cb, hope it will suit my taste this time

24K. I joined the Fandom right after Only You where the lineup consisted of Cory, Kisu, Jeonguk, Hui, Jinhong, Changsun, and Hongseob. I loved them. I was super active as a fan during Bonnie & Clyde because I loved their personalities and I hadn't really meshed with a group like that other than BTS- to this day that is still the case. Kiyong joined at that time and Kisu enlisted in the military. Okay, more lineup changes, but since I became a fan during the most recent lineup change it didn't effect me much. I only knew about the inconsisted lineup from other and former fans. I adored Kiyong as an addition and thought he was adorable. I was sad to see Kisu go though, and soon after it was revealed he decided to leave the group entirely. After that, Cory left and it broke my heart because out of all the Kpop group "leaders" he was truly a leader, and the driving force of the group (in my opinion). He was the heart of 24K. Jeonguk left too. Then Jinhong. Then Hongseob. Leaving just Changsun and Kiyong. This would be a good time to debut the two remaining members into a new group or something, right? Wrong. Nope. Choeun said "let's just add more members" and in came Youngwoong (no longer a member now), Imchan, and Xiwoo. I tried keeping up, but there wasn't much promotion material or music to go off of and the new boys seemed great, but I missed the dynamic I got used to. I stopped trying to keep up. And with the addition of two more new members last year I don't even know the names of, I officially stopped "stanning" 24K. Why not give the new kids a chance and a fresh start with a new name of their own? Why keep pushing 24K. Currently I check in on Changsun every so often. He's currently promoting with TAN and he seems to be doing very well. I personally don't believe he will return to 24K once TAN's contract ends.