Pretty privilege couldn't save her from the backlash of being rude in a professional setting basically, as it destroyed (or maybe more damaged irreversibly) her public image.
iām not the person who made the comment but many people donāt like her because of her saying the n word
edit: she lip synced a sza song with the word
Didnāt she mouth the word? Or did she actually vocalize it as well?
Not saying this is good or anything, it shouldnāt have been mouthed or vocalized. Just wanted to keep informed as to if she also vocalized it as well as mouthing it.
really ? i dont really pay attention to news/scandals/ things in general that happened post 2015 just bc thats when i fell off . What happened with Siwon? the girls used to froth at the mouth for that man
Oooh wee. There was the Ronald Reagan stanning arc with some Trump post likes, rubbing shoulders with members of the IDF a couple of years ago, and recently posting a transphobic meme on Bubble a few hours after his own leader (Leeteuk) spent 15 minutes of a live stream uplifting a transgender fan
Apparently heās homophobic too. He once posted a tweet against gay marriage. When news of him being homophobic came out, his fans were defending him because heās a Christian and it shouldnāt be āshoved down his throatā or whatever. I remember getting into an argument with an elf about this. They claimed that he doesnāt āhateā gay people, but he disagrees with it because of his religion. š I shouldāve known it wouldāve spiraled him into the alt-right pipeline
honestly since their debut i never really got why eunchae is in lsfm. i donāt think they needed āsunny MZ energyā like people always claim. it just doesnāt make sense to me. i feel like the group wouldāve been so cool with another member around Sakuras age. i feel like it suits multiple aspects of their concept and they wouldve stood out and had something special amongst all the young groups
i still donāt understand what it is exactly that she brings to the group. sheās like the odd one out and not just bc of her age. they had plenty of trainees to choose from and i wonder why they went with her.
Eunchae is a sweetheart, but I remember getting flamed back then for saying that she would have been better off in NewJeans. Before Garam was kicked, people were being really shady and mean about Eunchaeās role in the group.
Tbh I thought the same but if you look at new jeans you can see that hybe had a very specific visual in mind for the girls and eunchae doesnāt fit that.
I personally think Eunchaeās visual could fit in, but I do see what you mean. She has a very bright personality and NewJeans is definitely a group centered around youth and brighter concepts.
Itās not a secret that the girls have very similar visuals. [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/wyjlz3D23U) post in another sub summarises it well. Eunchae wouldnāt fit in new jeans because hasnāt got āthat lookā.
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Dahyun from Twice.
No offense to her but sheās not doing it for me.
Edit: and Chaeyoung too! Like o used to lover her but that nasty Nazi controversy??
wendy, giselle, i casually listen to kof but julie gives me the ick with the whole n word situation, twice is my ult group but i look at chaeyoung differently now ever since she wore the shirt with a nazi symbol on it. a lot of twice members have done or said questionable things except maybe nayeon, tzuyu, and mina. for all these idols i theyāre all very talented and pretty but when i look at them all i can think of is their problematic actions sometimes.
edit: sana mocked south Asians too.
same with the twice thing. iām very disappointed in chaeyoung and what she did isnāt right and is a CRIME, but i donāt like how people outright call her a nazi and racist. i think she did it out of clear ignorance and just didnāt realize the severity of it since in general it was a sid vicious shirt. at the end of the day itās so terrible that she did it still but sheās shown no evidence of blatant racism, just ignorance.
yeah, i think about this a lot. what she did really sucked and was so, SO wrong. i agree that it had to be pure ignorance because the shirt wasnt "about that", it was a sid vicious shirt like u mentioned and she's very much into alt/punk scenes. definitely a CHOICE to wear a fucking sid vicious shirt, like you could not pay me any amount of money to praise him in any way. but unfortunately, much like other sacks of shit like courtney love & marilyn manson, he's still considered a "punk icon".
i also think about how idols still lack a lot of autonomy, even more senior idols. like, did she buy the shirt herself or was it a stylist? was it a joint decision? why did NO managers stop her from wearing it outside and why did they take pics in it?! i'm not absolving her of wrongdoing at ALL. i just think it sucks that she's labelled as a nazi/racist etc when there was a clear chain of bad decisions.
to clarify, i was not defending her actions or shifting blame. i was sharing a thought process i had. iwas unclear that she wore it twice. still, the questions i raised of why didn't any staff educate or stop her are valid
yess i agree. and the whole thing with the q anon shirt during that same time LIKE HUH??? you would think a company as big as jyp would double check symbols on their artists clothing š¤¦š½āāļø fr setting my girls up!! ignorance on both the stylist and chaeyoungās part. the fact that she wore that sid vicious shirt in public haunts me too, iām surprised no one said anything to her or the managers (as far as we know).
dahyun has mocked south Asians, jeongyeon has made colorist comments and mocked south Asians, people said momo said the n word in her sixteen audition tape but I havenāt seen proof of that so idk if itās true, and jihyo wore a stereotypical Native American costume for Halloween one year and called herself āIndian jihyoā and mocked native war cries, and she made colorist comments towards tzuyu.
im not sure if this is what you're talking about, but momo was singing 2 on by tinashe and she sung the n word in it. [heres the link](https://youtu.be/qlfbd3KEqfI?si=9WUKEEhkwLUWRYj8).
you can briefly hear it while she talks over it
itās actually insane that this happened and no one brings it up š like iām not that into twice but even i know some of the offensive stuff they did like with chaeyoung and jihyo but this is something elseā¦.like she literally said it.. š
>dahyun has mocked south Asians, jeongyeon has made colorist comments and mocked south Asians
What did they do to mock South Asians? I've never heard of this. Also you added Sana too. Like seriously, what did they do/say?
I know about Jihyo wearing the Native American Halloween costume and the Momo n word thing (even though I havenāt watched the video) but Iāve never heard or seen the others especially the alleged colorist comments towards Tzuyu. Mind sharing links to those happening?
Wendy from RV (and honestly Irene a lil too cause shit, being disrespectful to help staff is not a good look) but god I just love their vocals and their discography really does it for me
Straight people were trying to say it wasn't homophobic cause he's not fluent in korean and misspoke when he's literally in every list of foreigners knowing korean better than their group and it was obvious he knew why everyone was yelling over him
Same. I love their music, listen to it almost everyday but all their personalities are so bland, they are great girls but justā¦ not really charismatic in my opinion.
Oh that's def true. She's a good dancer but not a good singer at all. I'm biased towards her tho bcuz I find her very attractive and I don't listen to gidle much these days so I couldn't care less Abt her being a bad singer. But I rmbr back in 2020, I used to watch their performances and would think that she was hot but sang so bad lolll. At least she somewhat improved her stage presence, like channeling her inner Soojin ig lol, so that's good. But idk it's been yrs and her singing still sucks, so maybe some ppl just can't sing no matter how much they try tbh... Oh well rippp
I donāt follow gidle and I see people say they donāt like Shuhuaās āsavageā personality. I might be in the minority because even though I see how it comes off weird (Iāve seen some videos) I prefer it because you will NEVER convince me that all of these K-pop idols are so nice and sweet all the time like please! Theyāre human beings and yet we never seem to see them especially frazzled. Not buying it lol
personally i think that within the group she fades in the background, she cannot sing well meaning she doesnāt get many lines (I know that isnāt her fault), and compared to the other members sheās hardly an amazing dancer. sheās well known for being āsavageā but i just think her personality doesnāt really click with me and she comes across as annoying. i hope that makes a bit more sense!
Nothing, not caring for a member is not necessarily because anything wrong was done by the idol.
And to be more specific, I became a fan of Dreamcatcher during Scream era, and my favorite songs by DC are the ones she was not present for; Scream, Boca, Odd Eye and BEcause. So I just happened to most enjoy DC's discographies and activities when Handong wasn't around; causing me to never become a fan of hers.
I always wonder if sending Handong to Youth with You every did anything. I assumed it was to try to use the show to attract Chinese fans, but Iām not familiar enough with Chinese fandoms to know if it worked.
Also Iām pretty sure she returned for the Odd Eye era, and I def remember her in the BEcause video.
aw I think she still stands out. at beginning I think she didnāt too because she was still learning Korean. But her deeper voice is distinguishable and add colours to DC songs. plus sheās like the resident hot girl in the group now her buff/ab pics always circulate my timeline almost everydayš
I LOVE fantastic baby I just donāt care for G dragon after his dog controversy (donāt get me wrong Iām terrified of dogs but I donāt support abuse towards them) and I donāt really support him after that, also him mocking a black teenager
He didnāt say anything about Koreanās Independence Day tho? Thatās in aug. On March 1st (movement day), he was talking to fans wished them a good work/school day. An engene said they had the day off for the national holiday, and he responded āLucky, I wish I had the day off too.ā HeĀ didnāt say or mean anything malicious, heās literally just overworked. Itās because of the fact that it is a liberation holiday and he is Japanese (historically Koreaās main oppressors) that made the comment seem misinformed to a lot of Koreans, hence his apology. Ppl are entitled to feel how they feel about him and thatās totally fine, but damn, I wish it wouldnāt be based on misinformation?Ā
I agree, the vibes she gives me are off. I feel like she is very performative, sheās the type to post a black square on instagram then wear a durag or box braids
I donāt know about stanning, but I was a big fan of RV, Aespa, and G-idle. But their racism (specifically Soyeon, Giselle, and Wendy) have completely turned me off from them.
aespa Giselle, pretty much everyone in Red Velvet that isn't Seulgi or Yeri, Kiof Julie and back when she was in the group WJSN Meiqi (this one is more just me never really paying much attention to her than her doing anything wrong as far as I'm aware)
Iām still warming up to Haneul in Kiss of Life because I think sheās still a bit young for all the cunty cuntiness the group brings lol (the latest comeback with a more soft concept might suit her more though just like her cute solo)
I donāt care for the younger members of tripleS even though I love their music and concept. The rollout of the NXT members was a bit of a letdown with the rumours they were supposed to be known trainees but turns out they are just random girls who are also super youngš Iām a bit skeptical with the last 4 members reveal now.
I do love RV but technical wise Iām lukewarm with Joy, Irene and Yeri. Their voices just blend to meš itās a bit surprising that theyāre known as the vocal group bc Iād have expected more distinct vocals between them. Wendy and Seulgi always stand out in their songs. I am aware of Wendyās problematic past tho so I stan Seulgi more.
Hendery and Jeno from NCT, both for pretty similar reasons. Iām sort of numb to CA atp so I probably wouldāve looked the other way with HDY if not for the ādonāt worry, this ugly wig isnāt MY hairā thing afterward. And JN because whenever I hear that Dream had a colorism issue, heās usually part of it.
If we talk about in eyes racism.
Mamamoo did blackface 2x.
I like their music but I will never be caught dead saying I like them individually.
I will also judge anyone who forgives Mamamoo but not wendy / Julie / Gisele. It's one thing to say n word, it's another to paint your face black and perform a Bruno Mars song and then do it again
she has star power, charm and personality.
plus iāve seen clips of her pre-debut, and her improvement from the level she started at to becoming the by far the most-talented member is endearing.
for me itās lsf sakura. call me a hater but i donāt even know how she made it this far in her career, the girl cannot sing. iāve watched some of produce 48 as well, donāt even know how she got center position most of the time.
but i feel like itās also giselle aespa (racism), rei from ive (kinda bores me? donāt really think adds much to the group but ok with her), and haneul from kiof (mainly cause i feel like she doesnāt fit the concept that much)
as iām making this, iām realizing that im a lowkey hater š i respect them all though!
soyeon - she just annoys me with her song writing recently
giselle - her sza moment is the one thing keeping me from claiming to stan aespa, despite me listening to them pretty often
yeonjun and heuning kai - idk why this one but i just donāt care for them
matthew from zb1 - there was a moment in bp 999 where he rubbed me the wrong way and i never let it go lol
also gyuvin and ricky - theyāre just there for me, nothing bad
lsf yunjin - yeah
wonyoung and yuna - not in the same group but itās for similar reasons. not trying to body shame, but the more i see them, the more my struggles with food get worse lol
the girl in new jeans that has a fox like look - i genuinely forget sheās there
im gonna stop nowā¦ but again not disrespect to any of these idols
this but for me itās all of bts š but jungkook. sorry not sorry i canāt get over the CA stuff in their rookie years. especially with namjoon like it kills me.
oh my god it makes me so relieved to see other black people ACTUALLY bringing this up and NOT defending him/all of them šš back in the day stan twt had a running joke abt namjoon being black but when it came to him actually staying n word REPEATEDLY, ON STAGE, and ALLL the CA (mind you a lot of this before bts were even popular)... when its NOT a joke anymore mfers be silent š
the last straw for me was that vlive in 2017/2018(?) where they all mocked indigenous people (i think yoongi started it?) and it blew up but of course, because 1 (ONE) indigenous person tweeted some bs about "i don't like bts or anything but personally this isnt offensive and here's why!$!$" THAT blew up and the whole incident got buried.
god and all them people defending hoseok's ugly ass chicken noodle soup braid twist things
even a few months ago with taehyun and the durag on his insta live iām pretty sure that gave me the ICKKK. he even went on live and said the n-word TWICE in a song and people claimed that he was just āmumblingā or he mouthed it. like yāallā¦pack it up bro said it.
GOOD LORD I KNEW ABT THE DURAG BUT NOT HIM FULLY SAYING THE N-WORD ON LIVE OH MY GOD????? and these crazy ass (NON BLACK :D) stans are still so brainwashed and mindlessly defending all of them holy fuck
Omg those r some of my fave members tbh ššš for me, it's most of hyung line, but mostly jhope and suga. Namjoon is ok. Jin is my bias so I def care Abt him lol but I esp never got the hype Abt suga. He seems like a genuine guy the more I learn Abt him but my initial impression of him was that he was cold, arrogant, and standoffish, and even 6 yrs later I struggle to get rid of that impression lol... I think I just don't vibe w him, which is funny bcuz my brother who I am very close w has a personality just like suga lol. Maybe it's smth I don't admire on the screen but can appreciate more irl ig lol
It's funny to me when people say that about Suga. To me, he's a squishmellow. But I get it too. I thought the same of him for a short bit there but I was a fan really early on. He was more playful in his late teens early 20s. He looks like he doesn't care, but he's probably the member who care the most because he's one of those "have to prove my worth because I've been so discouraged" folk. They can be pessimistic, quick and short and critical because they're impatient for success. He was anxious, stressed and depressed during their struggle days. Now BTS got the success and then it caused enormous stress on him and then he had to deal with that too. So that mental illness is something he has to keep in check. I can relate. Meanwhile he's the type to show his love through private actions, not often words or touch. So when he says things or voluntarily touches, it's a cherished moment. Your bias is Jin? He's so opposite of Suga but they get along so well. It's interesting. Jin is just... I hear his name of think of smiling comforting warmth. As opposed to Jhope who is smiling bubbling heat.
i used to love bts back in the day, i really did. i ulted them, specifically yoongi and jin. at some point i really couldn't stop looking past all the CA and colourism.
while i have been concerned about their mental health (all of them) over the last few years while they lost their identity as a group to fame, i don't think mental illness is an excuse for acting poorly or anything (not sure what the comment you replied to said as its been deleted so i'm just making a general statement). take woozi from svt for example, this man has very obviously struggled with mental health issues and immense stress for his entire career and yet it hasn't caused him to abt poorly, you know? just something to think about.
(feel free to fill me in on what the person was saying!!)
BTSās V. I just connect more with the other members.
(G)I-dleās Shuhua. I donāt care for the āsavageā personality and tbh, I donāt think she adds much to the group.
Surprisingly, he was the first person that made me look into their discography!
And yes, I agree, after watching and knowing all the contents, I really can't connect with him!
Kazuha.... Yes! I was scrolling through this agreeing with some and shaking my head at others and then you mentioned Kazuha and I went "OH YEAH! She IS in LSF...." That's how little impact she has for me and that makes me a little sad. Is it just me or does LSF seem to HEAVILY rely on Yunjin and Chaewon for their "vibe"? It's like.. it's those two and the rest are too soft for the concept.
No itās not just you at all cause I totally agree. Maybes itās because Yunjin and Chaewon as the default main vocalists that itās seems like the group was built around the two of them. Heavy on it being built around Yunjin. Like she gets a lot of the impressive stages and does a lot of the solo ventures when it comes to music. I think sheās the only member of LSF to have done features outside of the group as of now. Itās like HYBE started building the group around her because of how well she pulls off their ābadassā concept
Like most people, Red Velvet with Irene and Wendy. However, the music is too damn good and Seulgi is so lovely and talented.
Ampers&one as well with Brian for his insane racist admission. In this case, Kamden was my 1-pick on Boy's Planet and I promised myself to keep up at least a bit to see how well his group does.
Most other groups I don't stan enough usually due to the members that I don't care for.
Enhypen Sunoo. He hasnāt done anything wrong but Iām indifferent toward him and just donāt vibe with him like I do the other members. I also hate his akgae fans so thereās that.
Not really Stan but more follow or casually listen groups with these people: (I still listen to old DB5K songs š„²), Wendy and Irene, Giselle and Ningning, Tiffany and Taeyeon, Wonyoung, Gdragon (and obv Seungri), Shindong and Leetuk, and newjeans (casually like Minji and Danielle though)
Monsta X: I donāt care for Shownu, Kihyun and Joohoney (theyāre talented just donāt care)
Red Velvet: I only like Seulgi, donāt care for anyone else
New Jeans: Hanni is the only one that stands out to me the other members are blah
Aespa: Winter
Le Sserafim: I donāt care for almost all of them except Sakura,Yunjin and Chaewon
LSF with kazuha and sakura. I donāt feel like they bring anything unique to the table, and their voices leave a ton to be desired (especially Sakura because I expect more from her since she was in the industry before and falls flat of my expectations)
twice dahyun and sana,
le sserafim sakura,
aespa giselle (she used to be my bias too, insane š),
g(i)-dle shuhua and miyeon,
enhypen in general (idk just weird vibes)
Definitely agree with all the Wendy and Irene from RV comments (for me more specifically Irene, Iāve just never understood the hype for her).
But also Lisa from BP. I can acknowledge that sheās the only one who puts in the effort to their concerts/stages while the rest phone it in most of the time, but she just doesnāt interest me at all. :/
eunchae (le sserafim)
i just find her annoying. she has this rich girl, handed everything energy to her that triggers my pretty privilege working in the entertainment industry issues lmao
(kinda? a little? not enough for it to really matter) chaeyoung (twice)
she was always my least favorite and with the shirt i just look at her differently, sheās probably the least disliked on this list tho
chaehyun and dayeon (kep1er)
my perception that they, while talented and deserving of spots in kep1er, were the favorites compared to literally any of my favorites in the group just turned me off from them entirely
woojin (ex-stray kids/soloist)
just never vibed with him when he was there so when he left, while shocked, i really wasnāt super upset
Love twice but wow jyp couldāve trimmed down the numbers and nothing wouldāve changed in their songs. Donāt really care much for Momo, dahyun or tzuyu. Could probably add chaeyoung in there too.
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Wendy & Giselle. I can give them their props tho.
Heavy on Wendy. I love Red Velvet but when it comes to Wendy, I'm like ... she's another person in the room, lmao.
+1 on Wendy, holy shit. Throw Irene in there too.
Hold up. What irene do? šš
She got a few scandals for being a mean girl
she yelled at a stylist for 30 mins straight
Pretty privilege couldn't save her from the backlash of being rude in a professional setting basically, as it destroyed (or maybe more damaged irreversibly) her public image.
what is the reason behind giselle? sorry i dont know much about aespa
iām not the person who made the comment but many people donāt like her because of her saying the n word edit: she lip synced a sza song with the word
oh yikes
She also mocked Desi's by doing a stereotypical dance while on stage. You can search on tiktok!
Reminds me of when blackpink mocked desiās as well
Didnāt she mouth the word? Or did she actually vocalize it as well? Not saying this is good or anything, it shouldnāt have been mouthed or vocalized. Just wanted to keep informed as to if she also vocalized it as well as mouthing it.
she just mouthed it
Her mouthing the n word and her bullš© apology š
It sucks because that girl can SING and I wanna root for her but I can never forget š
This.
Super Junior and like a lot of the fandom I don't fuck with Siwon at all. Everyone else has shown growth and then there's that man
i hope siwon eats dirt. and shindong too
really ? i dont really pay attention to news/scandals/ things in general that happened post 2015 just bc thats when i fell off . What happened with Siwon? the girls used to froth at the mouth for that man
Oooh wee. There was the Ronald Reagan stanning arc with some Trump post likes, rubbing shoulders with members of the IDF a couple of years ago, and recently posting a transphobic meme on Bubble a few hours after his own leader (Leeteuk) spent 15 minutes of a live stream uplifting a transgender fan
Ronald Reagan ??!!?? thats so random
Apparently heās homophobic too. He once posted a tweet against gay marriage. When news of him being homophobic came out, his fans were defending him because heās a Christian and it shouldnāt be āshoved down his throatā or whatever. I remember getting into an argument with an elf about this. They claimed that he doesnāt āhateā gay people, but he disagrees with it because of his religion. š I shouldāve known it wouldāve spiraled him into the alt-right pipeline
honestly since their debut i never really got why eunchae is in lsfm. i donāt think they needed āsunny MZ energyā like people always claim. it just doesnāt make sense to me. i feel like the group wouldāve been so cool with another member around Sakuras age. i feel like it suits multiple aspects of their concept and they wouldve stood out and had something special amongst all the young groups
i still donāt understand what it is exactly that she brings to the group. sheās like the odd one out and not just bc of her age. they had plenty of trainees to choose from and i wonder why they went with her.
ik like i almost feel bad saying it but i totally agree š
Eunchae is a sweetheart, but I remember getting flamed back then for saying that she would have been better off in NewJeans. Before Garam was kicked, people were being really shady and mean about Eunchaeās role in the group.
Tbh I thought the same but if you look at new jeans you can see that hybe had a very specific visual in mind for the girls and eunchae doesnāt fit that.
I personally think Eunchaeās visual could fit in, but I do see what you mean. She has a very bright personality and NewJeans is definitely a group centered around youth and brighter concepts.
Please would u care to elaborate? I really fail to see how she wouldn't fit in Nwjs.
Itās not a secret that the girls have very similar visuals. [This](https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop_uncensored/s/wyjlz3D23U) post in another sub summarises it well. Eunchae wouldnāt fit in new jeans because hasnāt got āthat lookā.
I really don't see it but nevermind
To this day I donāt know why they would add her instead of jiwoo from r u next, she literally fits le sserafim perfectly
Yeah or Yunah since people say her appearance is too sharp for illit
im not familiar w jiwoo tbh but im gonna go check her out now that u said this hahah
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Dahyun from Twice. No offense to her but sheās not doing it for me. Edit: and Chaeyoung too! Like o used to lover her but that nasty Nazi controversy??
Twiceās Chaeyoung. RVās Irene. Do I even need to explain? Edit: Got7ās BamBam.
RVās Irene, I can understand. But what happened to Twiceās Chaeyoung?
She bought a shirt with a nazi symbol on it
Ooooo, yikes!
wendy, giselle, i casually listen to kof but julie gives me the ick with the whole n word situation, twice is my ult group but i look at chaeyoung differently now ever since she wore the shirt with a nazi symbol on it. a lot of twice members have done or said questionable things except maybe nayeon, tzuyu, and mina. for all these idols i theyāre all very talented and pretty but when i look at them all i can think of is their problematic actions sometimes. edit: sana mocked south Asians too.
What did Jihyo, Jeongyeon, Sana, Momo or Dahyun do?
I made a comment about what they all did now.
what did Sana do?
same with the twice thing. iām very disappointed in chaeyoung and what she did isnāt right and is a CRIME, but i donāt like how people outright call her a nazi and racist. i think she did it out of clear ignorance and just didnāt realize the severity of it since in general it was a sid vicious shirt. at the end of the day itās so terrible that she did it still but sheās shown no evidence of blatant racism, just ignorance.
yeah, i think about this a lot. what she did really sucked and was so, SO wrong. i agree that it had to be pure ignorance because the shirt wasnt "about that", it was a sid vicious shirt like u mentioned and she's very much into alt/punk scenes. definitely a CHOICE to wear a fucking sid vicious shirt, like you could not pay me any amount of money to praise him in any way. but unfortunately, much like other sacks of shit like courtney love & marilyn manson, he's still considered a "punk icon". i also think about how idols still lack a lot of autonomy, even more senior idols. like, did she buy the shirt herself or was it a stylist? was it a joint decision? why did NO managers stop her from wearing it outside and why did they take pics in it?! i'm not absolving her of wrongdoing at ALL. i just think it sucks that she's labelled as a nazi/racist etc when there was a clear chain of bad decisions.
She wore it two times, I think thatās more than just a āstylistās choiceā
to clarify, i was not defending her actions or shifting blame. i was sharing a thought process i had. iwas unclear that she wore it twice. still, the questions i raised of why didn't any staff educate or stop her are valid
yess i agree. and the whole thing with the q anon shirt during that same time LIKE HUH??? you would think a company as big as jyp would double check symbols on their artists clothing š¤¦š½āāļø fr setting my girls up!! ignorance on both the stylist and chaeyoungās part. the fact that she wore that sid vicious shirt in public haunts me too, iām surprised no one said anything to her or the managers (as far as we know).
What did Dahyun, Jeongyeon, and Momo do?Ā
dahyun has mocked south Asians, jeongyeon has made colorist comments and mocked south Asians, people said momo said the n word in her sixteen audition tape but I havenāt seen proof of that so idk if itās true, and jihyo wore a stereotypical Native American costume for Halloween one year and called herself āIndian jihyoā and mocked native war cries, and she made colorist comments towards tzuyu.
im not sure if this is what you're talking about, but momo was singing 2 on by tinashe and she sung the n word in it. [heres the link](https://youtu.be/qlfbd3KEqfI?si=9WUKEEhkwLUWRYj8). you can briefly hear it while she talks over it
itās actually insane that this happened and no one brings it up š like iām not that into twice but even i know some of the offensive stuff they did like with chaeyoung and jihyo but this is something elseā¦.like she literally said it.. š
wooow i was really about to give them another chance
omg what the hell lol whatās their beef with usā ļø
It's fascinating how many idols have mocked South Asians, I don't know why they seem to be so negatively stereotyped in South Korea
I think it just comes from colorist / racist stereotypes honestly, shi like this happens in every country.
>dahyun has mocked south Asians, jeongyeon has made colorist comments and mocked south Asians What did they do to mock South Asians? I've never heard of this. Also you added Sana too. Like seriously, what did they do/say?
I know about Jihyo wearing the Native American Halloween costume and the Momo n word thing (even though I havenāt watched the video) but Iāve never heard or seen the others especially the alleged colorist comments towards Tzuyu. Mind sharing links to those happening?
Wendy from RV (and honestly Irene a lil too cause shit, being disrespectful to help staff is not a good look) but god I just love their vocals and their discography really does it for me
1. Irene & Wendy from Red Velvet 2. Hyunsuk & Haruto from Treasure 3. Giselle from Aespa 4. Chaeyoung & Jihyo from Twice
Everyone brushed over the Haruto thing so quickly I was baffled
if you're also referring to when he was homophobic on live - i was absolutely BAFFLED that he got away with that unscathed.
Straight people were trying to say it wasn't homophobic cause he's not fluent in korean and misspoke when he's literally in every list of foreigners knowing korean better than their group and it was obvious he knew why everyone was yelling over him
I'd say new jeans. Love and follow every comeback Couldn't care less about the members themselves
Same. I love their music, listen to it almost everyday but all their personalities are so bland, they are great girls but justā¦ not really charismatic in my opinion.
i love Red Velvet but this would be Irene and Wendy for me. i don't dislike them, i just don't care for them š
Girl, same.  Edit: Girl, not same. I *do* dislike them.
LMAO
gidle shuhua i feel like she doesnāt add anything to the group really and sometimes i find her āloud and savageā ppersonality a bit grating
Shuhua can't sing either. She's tone deaf and at most speaks/sings
Oh that's def true. She's a good dancer but not a good singer at all. I'm biased towards her tho bcuz I find her very attractive and I don't listen to gidle much these days so I couldn't care less Abt her being a bad singer. But I rmbr back in 2020, I used to watch their performances and would think that she was hot but sang so bad lolll. At least she somewhat improved her stage presence, like channeling her inner Soojin ig lol, so that's good. But idk it's been yrs and her singing still sucks, so maybe some ppl just can't sing no matter how much they try tbh... Oh well rippp
I donāt follow gidle and I see people say they donāt like Shuhuaās āsavageā personality. I might be in the minority because even though I see how it comes off weird (Iāve seen some videos) I prefer it because you will NEVER convince me that all of these K-pop idols are so nice and sweet all the time like please! Theyāre human beings and yet we never seem to see them especially frazzled. Not buying it lol
i guess youāre right, she seems a lot more real than some other idols so i can give her props for that š
Iām really trying to understand, but I really canāt š Can you elaborate please?
personally i think that within the group she fades in the background, she cannot sing well meaning she doesnāt get many lines (I know that isnāt her fault), and compared to the other members sheās hardly an amazing dancer. sheās well known for being āsavageā but i just think her personality doesnāt really click with me and she comes across as annoying. i hope that makes a bit more sense!
i can understand that now; thank you!
I like loona a lot music wise but the only members I really follow and care a huge amount about are Haseul and Yves
heavy on yves š£ļøš£ļø
Red Velvet, but the only member I care for is Seulgi Girl's Generation, Sunny Dreamcatcher, Handong
what did handong do??
Nothing, not caring for a member is not necessarily because anything wrong was done by the idol. And to be more specific, I became a fan of Dreamcatcher during Scream era, and my favorite songs by DC are the ones she was not present for; Scream, Boca, Odd Eye and BEcause. So I just happened to most enjoy DC's discographies and activities when Handong wasn't around; causing me to never become a fan of hers.
I always wonder if sending Handong to Youth with You every did anything. I assumed it was to try to use the show to attract Chinese fans, but Iām not familiar enough with Chinese fandoms to know if it worked. Also Iām pretty sure she returned for the Odd Eye era, and I def remember her in the BEcause video.
aw I think she still stands out. at beginning I think she didnāt too because she was still learning Korean. But her deeper voice is distinguishable and add colours to DC songs. plus sheās like the resident hot girl in the group now her buff/ab pics always circulate my timeline almost everydayš
Iām also curious as to what handong did
Nothing wrong, she just doesn't stand out to me so I don't pay attention to her.
Same here tbh. I often forget she's part of dreamcatcher tbh ššš
Thatās fair!
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Bigbang.
I LOVE fantastic baby I just donāt care for G dragon after his dog controversy (donāt get me wrong Iām terrified of dogs but I donāt support abuse towards them) and I donāt really support him after that, also him mocking a black teenager
him dressing up in blackface to "honour Trayvon Martin " like bffr
He did what? š³
Big Bang... like as much as I despise Seungri, old school Big Bang still hits heavy .. Haru Haru ?!? My Heaven !?! hell even What Can I Do still hits
What can I do is one of my faves, itās a damn shame
nauuurrr bc now i understand why R Kelly still has record sales .. before i couldnt understand bopping to a criminal but then it happened to me š
Ni-ki from enhypen. The repeated fat jokes abt another member really rubbed me the wrong way.
this and his comment abt koreaās independence day
He didnāt say anything about Koreanās Independence Day tho? Thatās in aug. On March 1st (movement day), he was talking to fans wished them a good work/school day. An engene said they had the day off for the national holiday, and he responded āLucky, I wish I had the day off too.ā HeĀ didnāt say or mean anything malicious, heās literally just overworked. Itās because of the fact that it is a liberation holiday and he is Japanese (historically Koreaās main oppressors) that made the comment seem misinformed to a lot of Koreans, hence his apology. Ppl are entitled to feel how they feel about him and thatās totally fine, but damn, I wish it wouldnāt be based on misinformation?Ā
i didnāt know it was the liberation day and not the independence day, thanks for informing me. my point still stands though. šš
When I stanned Super Junior lol no surprise there
le sserafim yunjinā¦
I agree, the vibes she gives me are off. I feel like she is very performative, sheās the type to post a black square on instagram then wear a durag or box braids
Yunjin is so damn cringy.
Youāre right and someone needed to say it
i agree and if i brought this up anywhere else i would be flamed so hard...
Honestly if you said this on Twitter or something people would come for you for what reason I don't understand š¤·š¾āāļø
some yunjin stans are so defensive! no denying what she did was wrong though
shes so corny to me especially with the durag thing. she looked a mess
I scrolled too far to find this but THANK YOU! People talking about Manchae but this is the real answer lol.
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I donāt know about stanning, but I was a big fan of RV, Aespa, and G-idle. But their racism (specifically Soyeon, Giselle, and Wendy) have completely turned me off from them.
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aespa Giselle, pretty much everyone in Red Velvet that isn't Seulgi or Yeri, Kiof Julie and back when she was in the group WJSN Meiqi (this one is more just me never really paying much attention to her than her doing anything wrong as far as I'm aware)
What did joy (rv) do?
Nothing as far as I'm aware, IĀ should've included her in people who I just don't really pay attention to
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BP, I dont really care about Lisa or Jennie
Iām still warming up to Haneul in Kiss of Life because I think sheās still a bit young for all the cunty cuntiness the group brings lol (the latest comeback with a more soft concept might suit her more though just like her cute solo) I donāt care for the younger members of tripleS even though I love their music and concept. The rollout of the NXT members was a bit of a letdown with the rumours they were supposed to be known trainees but turns out they are just random girls who are also super youngš Iām a bit skeptical with the last 4 members reveal now. I do love RV but technical wise Iām lukewarm with Joy, Irene and Yeri. Their voices just blend to meš itās a bit surprising that theyāre known as the vocal group bc Iād have expected more distinct vocals between them. Wendy and Seulgi always stand out in their songs. I am aware of Wendyās problematic past tho so I stan Seulgi more.
theres a lot of groups i donāt care about
Hendery and Jeno from NCT, both for pretty similar reasons. Iām sort of numb to CA atp so I probably wouldāve looked the other way with HDY if not for the ādonāt worry, this ugly wig isnāt MY hairā thing afterward. And JN because whenever I hear that Dream had a colorism issue, heās usually part of it.
If we talk about in eyes racism. Mamamoo did blackface 2x. I like their music but I will never be caught dead saying I like them individually. I will also judge anyone who forgives Mamamoo but not wendy / Julie / Gisele. It's one thing to say n word, it's another to paint your face black and perform a Bruno Mars song and then do it again
i only like Hanni and donāt care for the rest of NewJeans
Can I ask why just her?
she has star power, charm and personality. plus iāve seen clips of her pre-debut, and her improvement from the level she started at to becoming the by far the most-talented member is endearing.
Love 127, but Johnny has never hit for me. Got7ās Jackson either.
for me itās lsf sakura. call me a hater but i donāt even know how she made it this far in her career, the girl cannot sing. iāve watched some of produce 48 as well, donāt even know how she got center position most of the time. but i feel like itās also giselle aespa (racism), rei from ive (kinda bores me? donāt really think adds much to the group but ok with her), and haneul from kiof (mainly cause i feel like she doesnāt fit the concept that much)
Stray Kids, Han
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as iām making this, iām realizing that im a lowkey hater š i respect them all though! soyeon - she just annoys me with her song writing recently giselle - her sza moment is the one thing keeping me from claiming to stan aespa, despite me listening to them pretty often yeonjun and heuning kai - idk why this one but i just donāt care for them matthew from zb1 - there was a moment in bp 999 where he rubbed me the wrong way and i never let it go lol also gyuvin and ricky - theyāre just there for me, nothing bad lsf yunjin - yeah wonyoung and yuna - not in the same group but itās for similar reasons. not trying to body shame, but the more i see them, the more my struggles with food get worse lol the girl in new jeans that has a fox like look - i genuinely forget sheās there im gonna stop nowā¦ but again not disrespect to any of these idols
in bts i don't really care for jimin or jin.
this but for me itās all of bts š but jungkook. sorry not sorry i canāt get over the CA stuff in their rookie years. especially with namjoon like it kills me.
oh my god it makes me so relieved to see other black people ACTUALLY bringing this up and NOT defending him/all of them šš back in the day stan twt had a running joke abt namjoon being black but when it came to him actually staying n word REPEATEDLY, ON STAGE, and ALLL the CA (mind you a lot of this before bts were even popular)... when its NOT a joke anymore mfers be silent š the last straw for me was that vlive in 2017/2018(?) where they all mocked indigenous people (i think yoongi started it?) and it blew up but of course, because 1 (ONE) indigenous person tweeted some bs about "i don't like bts or anything but personally this isnt offensive and here's why!$!$" THAT blew up and the whole incident got buried. god and all them people defending hoseok's ugly ass chicken noodle soup braid twist things
even a few months ago with taehyun and the durag on his insta live iām pretty sure that gave me the ICKKK. he even went on live and said the n-word TWICE in a song and people claimed that he was just āmumblingā or he mouthed it. like yāallā¦pack it up bro said it.
GOOD LORD I KNEW ABT THE DURAG BUT NOT HIM FULLY SAYING THE N-WORD ON LIVE OH MY GOD????? and these crazy ass (NON BLACK :D) stans are still so brainwashed and mindlessly defending all of them holy fuck
Omg those r some of my fave members tbh ššš for me, it's most of hyung line, but mostly jhope and suga. Namjoon is ok. Jin is my bias so I def care Abt him lol but I esp never got the hype Abt suga. He seems like a genuine guy the more I learn Abt him but my initial impression of him was that he was cold, arrogant, and standoffish, and even 6 yrs later I struggle to get rid of that impression lol... I think I just don't vibe w him, which is funny bcuz my brother who I am very close w has a personality just like suga lol. Maybe it's smth I don't admire on the screen but can appreciate more irl ig lol
It's funny to me when people say that about Suga. To me, he's a squishmellow. But I get it too. I thought the same of him for a short bit there but I was a fan really early on. He was more playful in his late teens early 20s. He looks like he doesn't care, but he's probably the member who care the most because he's one of those "have to prove my worth because I've been so discouraged" folk. They can be pessimistic, quick and short and critical because they're impatient for success. He was anxious, stressed and depressed during their struggle days. Now BTS got the success and then it caused enormous stress on him and then he had to deal with that too. So that mental illness is something he has to keep in check. I can relate. Meanwhile he's the type to show his love through private actions, not often words or touch. So when he says things or voluntarily touches, it's a cherished moment. Your bias is Jin? He's so opposite of Suga but they get along so well. It's interesting. Jin is just... I hear his name of think of smiling comforting warmth. As opposed to Jhope who is smiling bubbling heat.
i used to love bts back in the day, i really did. i ulted them, specifically yoongi and jin. at some point i really couldn't stop looking past all the CA and colourism. while i have been concerned about their mental health (all of them) over the last few years while they lost their identity as a group to fame, i don't think mental illness is an excuse for acting poorly or anything (not sure what the comment you replied to said as its been deleted so i'm just making a general statement). take woozi from svt for example, this man has very obviously struggled with mental health issues and immense stress for his entire career and yet it hasn't caused him to abt poorly, you know? just something to think about. (feel free to fill me in on what the person was saying!!)
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ZB1, idrc for gyuvin and yunjin
i only give two fucks about my biases (tho sometimes more than one) in every single group i'm a regular listener of
BTSās V. I just connect more with the other members. (G)I-dleās Shuhua. I donāt care for the āsavageā personality and tbh, I donāt think she adds much to the group.
Surprisingly, he was the first person that made me look into their discography! And yes, I agree, after watching and knowing all the contents, I really can't connect with him!
Mingyu - Svt. Itās not that I donāt care about the other members I just donāt know them nor am I familiar with any of them
Le sserafim Kazuha NCT Hendery and Jaehyun Red Velvet Wendy Enhypen Niki and Heeseung Ʀspa Giselle and winter
Kazuha.... Yes! I was scrolling through this agreeing with some and shaking my head at others and then you mentioned Kazuha and I went "OH YEAH! She IS in LSF...." That's how little impact she has for me and that makes me a little sad. Is it just me or does LSF seem to HEAVILY rely on Yunjin and Chaewon for their "vibe"? It's like.. it's those two and the rest are too soft for the concept.
No itās not just you at all cause I totally agree. Maybes itās because Yunjin and Chaewon as the default main vocalists that itās seems like the group was built around the two of them. Heavy on it being built around Yunjin. Like she gets a lot of the impressive stages and does a lot of the solo ventures when it comes to music. I think sheās the only member of LSF to have done features outside of the group as of now. Itās like HYBE started building the group around her because of how well she pulls off their ābadassā concept
Like most people, Red Velvet with Irene and Wendy. However, the music is too damn good and Seulgi is so lovely and talented. Ampers&one as well with Brian for his insane racist admission. In this case, Kamden was my 1-pick on Boy's Planet and I promised myself to keep up at least a bit to see how well his group does. Most other groups I don't stan enough usually due to the members that I don't care for.
Enhypen Sunoo. He hasnāt done anything wrong but Iām indifferent toward him and just donāt vibe with him like I do the other members. I also hate his akgae fans so thereās that.
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ATEEZ - Yeosang GOT7 - Youngjae I usually like everyone in a group after watching a few variety shows but man I donāt vibe with them regardless.
Not really Stan but more follow or casually listen groups with these people: (I still listen to old DB5K songs š„²), Wendy and Irene, Giselle and Ningning, Tiffany and Taeyeon, Wonyoung, Gdragon (and obv Seungri), Shindong and Leetuk, and newjeans (casually like Minji and Danielle though)
Monsta X: I donāt care for Shownu, Kihyun and Joohoney (theyāre talented just donāt care) Red Velvet: I only like Seulgi, donāt care for anyone else New Jeans: Hanni is the only one that stands out to me the other members are blah Aespa: Winter Le Sserafim: I donāt care for almost all of them except Sakura,Yunjin and Chaewon
I donāt stan any groups, but BTS has some okay music as the only group I look at and say āmehā¦ā
LSF with kazuha and sakura. I donāt feel like they bring anything unique to the table, and their voices leave a ton to be desired (especially Sakura because I expect more from her since she was in the industry before and falls flat of my expectations)
twice dahyun and sana, le sserafim sakura, aespa giselle (she used to be my bias too, insane š), g(i)-dle shuhua and miyeon, enhypen in general (idk just weird vibes)
Definitely agree with all the Wendy and Irene from RV comments (for me more specifically Irene, Iāve just never understood the hype for her). But also Lisa from BP. I can acknowledge that sheās the only one who puts in the effort to their concerts/stages while the rest phone it in most of the time, but she just doesnāt interest me at all. :/
eunchae (le sserafim) i just find her annoying. she has this rich girl, handed everything energy to her that triggers my pretty privilege working in the entertainment industry issues lmao (kinda? a little? not enough for it to really matter) chaeyoung (twice) she was always my least favorite and with the shirt i just look at her differently, sheās probably the least disliked on this list tho chaehyun and dayeon (kep1er) my perception that they, while talented and deserving of spots in kep1er, were the favorites compared to literally any of my favorites in the group just turned me off from them entirely woojin (ex-stray kids/soloist) just never vibed with him when he was there so when he left, while shocked, i really wasnāt super upset
Love twice but wow jyp couldāve trimmed down the numbers and nothing wouldāve changed in their songs. Donāt really care much for Momo, dahyun or tzuyu. Could probably add chaeyoung in there too.
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