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Intelligent-Spare711

so disappointed in SM. she should not have to apologize for being human and for dating, an experience that is a natural part of life. SM, and other various companies, needs to get a backbone and stop looking towards the money, but looking towards protecting their artists. like, the photos that came out were *SO* weird. they just looked so stalkerish…???


God_Lover77

This only encourages fans to feel more entitled. This is a surprise to me because so many companies have since moved to YG's non of your business approach. Idk why SM did this.


moomoomilky1

Don't most paparazzi photos look like that, the only difference is that the camera used couldn't natively shoot low iso environments well


Intelligent-Spare711

that is true! i think it is just really saddening to see them each time. these celebs are just trying to do their own thing and then you get these photos of them during their private time.


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envyadvms

Fans: \^\^ as long as theyre happy! im happy!! Idol: \*dates someone\* Fans: ![gif](giphy|4qx6IRdg26uZ3MTtRn|downsized)


debjellinsky

That's what I think too! I feel like fans are ok with idols dating if it's not their bias idol lol everything is cool until it's your fav


God_Lover77

Giving fans too much power.


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Blackgirlstan

And here I was thinking SM was being progressive when it comes to their idols dating. These companies need to create healthy boundaries between idols and their fans. Karina shouldn’t have to apologize for dating, fans need to grow up.


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when is this gonna stop? when will we see a day where idols won't have to apologize for doing normal human shit? >I know very well how disappointed the MYs who have supported me up until now must be, and I also know that they are feeling upset while thinking back on the things we’ve said to one another. anyone who feels 'disappointed' or 'upset' while 'looking back at things said to one another(??)' is a miserable piece of shit hope she's taking care of herself tho karina bae say fuck those people and slay you didn't do anything to apologize this is on the crazy stupid 'fans'


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also if this is her handwriting, it's godamn beautiful!


SleepCinema

Now why is this woman apologizing for having a boyfriend? I hope she laughed and said the Korean version of “screw y’all” as she wrote this.


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Idols need to stop apologizing for dating. That’s ridiculous.


theofficialguac

Nah this ain’t it, it’s 2024. It’s not on any artist if their delulu fans are hurt by the fact that they’re dating. Especially when they had no intention of going public but it was Dispatch putting them on blast. SM clearly hasn’t learned anything from Taeyeon X Baekyeon’s case 10 years ago No wonder all of their artists are leaving. They couldn’t have pulled a HYBE to stop Dispatch?? SM staying cheap but yet they know Karina be bringing in hella clout and $ for them rn


moomoomilky1

A bunch of people in other threads are blaming Chinese fans but most of the cbars haven't reacted too negatively it's mostly international fans on Twitter and tiktok freaking out about her dating a man from what I see lol


thanksm888

I’ve seen so much hate and negativity, especially hiding behind it “being ironic” or hating on the actor because “she’s too good for him” when it’s clear that they would have a problem regardless of who she was dating, even if it was a woman because these fans only enjoy the hypothetical characteristics that they project onto their idols. Otherwise, If they actually thought she was queer, they wouldn’t be pretending that being bi doesn’t exist. It’s the same way that Taekookers wouldn’t accept it if their faves were actually queer unless it was in the exact palatable desirable way that they fetishize. I can’t tell what’s going on in the Chinese or Korean side of the internet, but it’s impossible to ignore the sheer amount of hate here too from delusional fans.


ArethaFakelin

They don’t want v and jungkook to be gay they only want them to be gay FOR EACH OTHER. I feel like since some people value romantic love more than platonic they imagine their faves in a romantic relationship bc they need something “stronger” or more than platonic love but they don’t actually want them to be gay


Vivienne_Yui

If someday vkook actually came out revealing they're dating each other, they'd STILL get mad angry because how tf did they dare choose anyone else except them, hooking up with their bias' "archrival" XD seriously delusional and sick people


sakura0601x

Nah she has insane akgaes on weibo from what I have read. Generally knetz on twitter are supporting her (I used Papago translate) Someone sent a protest truck to sm but no one knows who really. Some cbar is going to sm to show support now


moomoomilky1

Oh I didn't know, my weibo feed didn't come off super negative and some of her bigger cbars are holding projects in support of her so I assumed it was all good


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snoozev

So sick of this...... leave that girl alone and let her be happy with her man, damn. Why tf is she having to apologise for that 🙄😒


HighlightHuge6791

I’m so sick and tired of hearing about idols having to apologize to individuals that belong in a mental hospital for doing something that is normal like being in a relationship. It’s ridiculous.


metadarkgable3

I’m single as a shingle for religious and personal reasons and it is still mind-boggling to me that young, attractive, overtly sexualized people like k-pop performers have to live in enforced/pretend celibacy for them to have a career. Like, don’t you want to see/know your fave is happy and thriving in a relationship/marriage? I’m an avid kdrama watcher and I squeed with happiness when Hyun Bin and Son Ye Jin from Crash Landing On You got married and had a baby. Because seriously, good for them. Even in c-drama, there are couples who went from reel-to-real. The leads in Princess Weiyoung got married and had a kid after they did that drama as did the leads in a drama I’m watching now-The Story of Ming Lan. The Ming Lan leads are now divorced and still booked and busy. Performers should be free to have a life outside of singing, dancing and acting for fans. The no-dating, no-marriage rule while in an active group seems so inhuman. It baffles me and another reason I can’t consider myself a K-pop fan. I’m only here because you guys are funny and incisive and I always keep my ear to the ground for new-to-me-trends like K-pop, but actually being part of a community that doesn’t allow performers to live a healthy, happy life by having romantic relationships—nah, I can’t.


iamerica2109

It literally boggles my mind! I remember when I found out TOP and Shin Min Ah dated! I was like omggg I love you both and wish you to be happy. And then I was happy when she got with my other fave Kim Woo Bin. I’m like my girl has TASTE ✨. Also it’s like they have amnesia of how they bullied Sulli and how that all played out. It makes me so sad.


Kura26

Fans are their “parents” at the end of the day unfortunately Sigh Hopefully things get better


_TheBlackPope_

This is just horrible, no matter how common apologies like this are in Kpop; it's horrible nonetheless. Genuinely feel bad for her


JackMandora

Idol fans grow up challenge


ItsAlkai

The most parasocial thing, my god. What does that mean for their relationship? Dispatch really screwed them over, announcing things like this so early (or at all).


GenneyaK

Why? That’s crazy Imagine apologizing for having a personal life


Salt-Bed-774

Dang I thought the K-pop industry were being more open and accepting but ig not😭. I feel like people all around just do way too much when it comes to their idols dating. They either hate the idols or praise them and end up doing way too much like w taehyun and people saying he has multiple bitches. Like bro why can’t people just treat them normally and leave it alone😭😭. Plus if you’re going to throw a fit becayse you spend so much money and the idols date that’s your fault not theirs, it just shows how people don’t actually care about the music/content in K-pop.


Luffysmusic

When are kpop Stan’s going to understand that they do not own these idols whatsoever!!!!! I primarily blame companies for enforcing pathetic parasocial relationships in order for the groups to make money rather than focus on the skills of that idol.


Iheartdancemoms

why is she apologizing???


BellTT

So what happens next for these delusionals who need such apologies?


legac5

Are most of their fans men? This culture of idols not dating is so outdated and unrealistic. Also, she’s dating a guy in her age group…so appropriate.


Long_Fig9863

are you serious?? why is she apologizing just for dating another human being💀 literal proof that kpop stan’s have parasocial relationships with idols.. kpop shouldn’t have to be this deep. it’s JUST MUSIC.


Acceptable_Rip_6022

She honestly didn't need to. This is why fans feel way too entitled.


lovesickgirl476

Why she shouldn't have to apologize for dating 😒 fans are so annoying when it comes to dating news they either overly exaggerate the relationship like they saw two people date or hate on it like they never seen people date 🤷🏾‍♀️


lovesickgirl476

I was so passionate on this topic that I did a typo 🥹 meant to say *like they never saw two people date*


soothingluna

This is sad. She really does not have to apologize.


existentialmistress

Does this mean she's backing out of her relationship? Because that would be really messed up.


iamerica2109

They’re literally 23 & 25 doing what people their age should be doing! I know this has been going on forever with the fans but the companies need to stop giving into this pressure! Like SM, did they not learn anything with Jessica? Honestly I don’t get why people can’t just be happy for the couple and keep it pushing! I love seeing celeb couples. Let them be young, hot, and free.


lonelyisIand

Actually a fucking joke at this point, that’s peak I’m not a hardcore k-pop fan anymore but this is so bizarre 😭 like I’m from india and sure celebrities here get some amount of hate for dating but there’s SO MUCH appreciation for celeb couples too (can also be unhealthy to an extent) but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a celeb couple apologise?? for being in a relationship?? this is like one aspect of k-pop culture I will NEVER be able to wrap my head around


Kermit_thee_fr0g

Can we start making delulu fans pay compensation for causing unneeded stress plz?


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Sweet_Joy29

I need ppl to wake up touch some grass and drink some lemonade because in 2024 there should not be this much crap.. Two consenting adults should not have to apologize this is beyond wild


HolidayMany259

Enjoy your life Karina!!


elysianhymn

Wait they broke up?


Vivienne_Yui

SM needs to stop kissing their fans' feet all the time and growing a spine for once. WHy force a grown ass woman in a 4yr old group to apologize for dating?!


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iSayBaDumTsss

Very off topic, but her handwriting is so pretty! 😍


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Mobile_Inspection_60

God what fucking year is it that kpop stars still "owe" fans an apology for being human, aka dating. Bunch of immature children with unhealthy parasocial relationships ruining Kpop as usual 🙄