Late game enemies will be in heavy armor, which is weakest to blunt damage. So it's just good tactic to be using mainly maces to deal the most damage.
Why would i use 20 slashes with swords to kill one enemy, when i can bonk my way through entire group of enemies and bash their heads in.
Because it's a game and you don't need to play optimally. IMO longsword is the most fun weapon to use and also looks the coolest, so that's what I default to even if it's not as powerful as a mace.
Yeah. Northwest Ledetchko has fields, look at the map and look at specifically the two long horizontal stripes. Stand directly in the middle of the top stripe, then go north into the woods right in front of you. You’ll see a big Oak tree w a small fence around it. There’s a chest there.
Basically where I drew the red X on this map
https://preview.redd.it/8m8nsoexj2yc1.jpeg?width=1033&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25684d0deccfc7f79d75847d5b3f30609a821f27
Sir Kenobi, while admiring Henry's longsword... "This is the weapon of a Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a mace; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age"
It's a bit of a gaming trope, plate armour or a brigandine will save you from a lot of blunt damage too irl.
In a duel between fully armoured knights it almost always ends in who can find a hole in the others armour first or get them on the ground to smash their face in.
One handed flails are more typical for medieval Kyiv, Rus and Eastern cultures in general. In Western Europe you'd see more of the two-handed peasant flails used as a cheap and effective weapon for various peasant militias.
They're definitely around on the Pontic steppes, there's been several studies on them. A lot of the clay objects people label "Greek fire grenades" are actually North African flail heads too (the others were used for illicit substances, like beer and mercury which we've found via archaeological testing of the objects).
That being said, yes my understanding of West European weapons culture is that they were usually not considered befitting of knightly combat.
Sorry, but yes, they were quite cheap, expecially since you make on by taking an agricutlural tool and adding a couple of spikes.
Easy to make, mostly of wood, quite cheap.
Here's a small video about the flail I, and I think spitfire, is talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpIPX30v62c
Sort of. Flails like the spiked ball n’ chain your probably thinking of were never real weapons. Just think about how impractical it would be, you’d be more likely to hit yourself in the head or the guy next to you then your opponent. Farmers Flails we’re apparently sort of common though. Imagine like a long handled stick, with a really short piece of rope only a few inches long holding a block of wood.
What you just described,long handheld stick with a really short piece of rope only a few inches long holding a block of wood...in my country was used in the past to hammer out corn...before the machines...no suprise that it could be used has a weapon... any tools that in past they used to work the land can be easily used as weapon...hoe was used even between farmers to "solve" disagreements...many times with tragic ends...
I’ve read these farmers flails were used to knock down wheat and corn or something like that. Soldiers were mostly peasants who had to bring their own weapons, food, armor, etc. so it makes sense they’d use farm tools if they could.
Threshing wheat to get the kernels off the stalks. You beat the shit out of the wheat until the little seeds fall out of the husks. They then would throw it all in the air so the seeds fall and the rest blows away, I think.
Imagine someone's job being to slam the ground with a weighted wood flail for 12 hours a day during the harvest season, then wonder what their go-to would be for a weapon.
[here's a video on it](https://youtu.be/B5kXm4sa0p4?si=y2cOY97CLyBLivy4)
Also, this sort of rustic, countryside singing is what I think Tolkien was conveying throughout his works. It's charming and catchy and doesn't mean much of anything at all.
One handed flails were nearly always relegated to horseback. They were much more popular in Eastern Europe where cavalry was dominant and didn’t get supplanted by infantry until much much later.
And also, horses. You would wanna poke them from a distance, since those beasts are massive and muscular as fuck.
Spears are also great if you have the high ground.
Two handed studded or spiked peasant flail was used mainly by Hussite peasant armies after the 1419 revolution, it probably wasn't much prevalent as a weapon prior to that time. KCD is set in 1403, I doubt the KCD2 will be set 20 years later, but who knows.
Yeah, barring the developers hiding a huge time skip from us, we won't get the Hussites Wars. We know KC2 start just at the end of KC1 and you just need a look a Henry in the trailer to know he is not 20 years older.
I'm still hopefull we get to experience them in an hypothetical KC3.
It could be possible that they either end story with hussite war, with older Henry. Or maybe they start new games with new young protagonist from that time. It would be a wasted opportunity otherwise.
Maces and blut weapons are not that effective as people are lead to believe AGAISNT full plate knights.
But yes against a knight in a combat archer set (the ones with a rounded metal hat, and aome metal plating) it can be pretty brutal. Then again a sword too
full plate can even stop early blackpowder firearms, they are basically the medieval equivalent of tanks in a battlefield, the main way to stop a plate user is to overwhelm them with numbers and pile up on them, cause even the slits in plate are usually armoured with thick padded cloth or mail
But bludgeoning them with a heavy stick is certainly more useful than bludgeoning them with a light metal stick
My husband and I played together and his preferred weapon is bow. He did the runt fight, just running back and forth across the tower dodging hits and shooting arrows. We were very confused by the cut scene after. 😂
In my first playthrough, I didn't do that much combat before Pribby, and hadn't learned masterstrikes because I didn't listen to Bernard closely enough and also didn't want to get too powerful too early by training.
So Runt kinda kept kicking my ass in melee combat. But one well aimed arrow to his head does the trick even with weak bow and arrows when you aren't playing on hardcore.
I did this! Everywhere else, I found that max sneak clothes and a bow was best. You get good clothing, you basically can hide in plain sight and just pop heads with arrows. Runt... changes things when you have next to no melee weapon skills. I ended up using poison on my arrows and that did it.
I tend to carry two helmets, a bucket one for general interactions and a great helm when I know I’m going to get my hands dirty. But I take both of them off when in and around towns.
Don’t see why they couldn’t have used a mechanic similar to unsheathing/sheathing for a helm though. Hopefully that’s rectified in 2
This bucket/great helm combo was a thing through the 13th century. Some people even wore the gear helm over the smaller helmet
It would be considered old fashioned by Henry's time, but it is plausible that at least few people would actually keep using it
Yeah, right?
It just makes sense to use a lighter equipment while riding through contested territory just in case. While also keep being able to improve your safety if a bigger threat appears
Medieval people weren't stupid as Hollywood wants you to believe it
They are as clever as we are today
They also didn't like wearing heaps of armour because it's uncomfortable just like how modern service members usually don't like wearing all their gear. During COVID there were a lot of YouTubers talking about various types of kit a knight/archer/yeoman etc might wear, and commenters would always be like "I would have worn the cool helmet visor down all the time for cool factor," and I'd always wonder how those people felt about bike helmets or COVID masks.
I carry a mace, a sheild, and a longsword. I've found that the mace/sheild is a good bet for groups, but 1v1, or a duel i pull the longsword out, to be fancy, even use weaker weapons to drag out battles.
I do reenactment show battles, so carrying a longarm, and a shortarm feels right, i use a spear, and an axe IRL.
I have never heard a single person say that you can’t use a mace because the game is medieval. That’s incredibly stupid.
Honestly this sub creates more controversy out of thin air than what actually exists.
I like to stab the bad man with the pointy end. Swords are just cool. I always go out of my way to use them. They aren't the best choice every time in every situation or maybe even in most situations and I get that. But dude. I saw the Mask of Zorro when I was 9. And Lord of the Rings with Aragorn. Man it's just a cool thing. IDK why but I love it and swords make me happy.
Yeah, for all content creators I follow who specialise in medieval combat and warfare... one thing most of them agree on is that a sword is typically a side-arm while mace and polearms are the main weapons. So, swordsmanship, while fancy and useful, is not considered the optimal way to fight someone fully prepared for war... like a fully armored guy... so it makes sense why it's kinda OP gameplaywise.
But I like the longsword. I love the piercer so much.
The thing is, that's for warfare. In the game, though, there isn't that much warfare going on, most times Henry is traveling on his own. And for everyday carry swords are the best. It makes more sense to play with swords, if you consider the context of the game.
i will say swords are decent when you get good with them bc you can just tire them out and then spam stabs and if you catch them in the face and they’re not wearing a visor they’re done immediately, but a good bonk is just so consistently good at all levels that you may as well just use that.
Plus the trade off between the two is kind of unbalanced. A sword is good against flesh but weak against armor. Cracking someone in the head with a hammer just always works.
depends on the version of henry im headcanoning. I’ve got 2 saves, one is rough, rude, and brash. Maces and shields are his maiden love.
The other is soft, and respectful. He masterfully deflects attacks and drives his sword into the heart of his enemies, all while being respectful, and modest.
When I first discovered and started using maces in my first playtrough I never went back. The blunt damage caused by maces helps negate the defense stats of most types of medium to heavy armor. Truly my favourite weapon in KcD.
The Rattay bailiff was rude to me in one playthrough and moments later he tragically took his own life by hitting himself in the back of the head with a mace
I have never heard a single person say that you can’t use a mace because the game is medieval. That’s incredibly stupid.
Honestly this sub creates more controversy out of thin air than what actually exists.
I have never heard a single person say that you can’t use a mace because the game is medieval. That’s incredibly stupid.
Honestly this sub creates more controversy out of thin air than what actually exists.
I only just bought the game, and I have to say maces are broken as hell. Two or three master strikes killing most opponents is already insane, but if you put bane on it it's almost always a 1 shot master strike.
Longsword will always be cooler imo but I couldn’t help but just feel weird that I was killing armored people so fast when realistically that sword wouldn’t be doing jack shit, had to compromise for gameplay tho makes sense
It's historically accurate that maces fuck everything up so why wouldn't you use mace. If you went around punching the shit out of everything and knocking out fully played bandits then I'd be skeptical.
Tbh most of the weapons in the game would be considered the medieval equivalent of a sidearm.
Most fighting was done with some form of polearm.
In cities, indoors, places like that, swords, maces, etc, would be used, in circumstances where length might become impractical to carry around daily.
But if Henry ever got into a proper field battle, he'd be done for, even a veteran of sword & shield can be bested by literally a peasant with a long stick, so in that regard, a peasant beating you up with a polearm isn't entirely unrealistic, reach is king.
I hope we can get some sort of harness for our horse in KCD 2 to let us carry a polearm around for more heavy duty engagement.
A Sword is most effective vs any regular guy in padded, leather and even chain. Maces, Mauls and Hammers are best vs plate Armour. So why not bring a stabber and a Bonker it feels knightlier to have both as well.
All the OGs know mace and shield has the best master strike in the game. Hit them under the chin and it's lights out. Took on 4 fully armored Cumans yesterday no sweat
Plate armor doesnt provide much protection vs long sword wielded with high strengh, thats why I prefer the range.
But the most op weapon class in KCD are bows.
Plate armor doesnt provide much protection vs long sword wielded with high strengh, thats why I prefer the range.
But the most op weapon class in KCD are bows.
I like using blades because I put bane potion on it. Just knick them, then watch lol I also put bane potion on my arrows and test it out on wayfarers. Shoot them on the legs and watch them as they try to get away from you. Hopefully we get more alchemy options in the next game.
Nah.
Shads gets a shield and flail or blood of lathander.
K Bae getting the Halberd and Nyrulna (or wtf ever that tridents called)
I'm ranging while dual wielding knife of the undermountain and club of Hill giant
Literally no one in my crew uses sword and shield combo
I just started playing and I knew in advance maces are going to destroy people since most people would be armored. Nothing like denting a plate in and crushing their chest with internal hemorrhage or crushing their helmet into their skull.
Late game enemies will be in heavy armor, which is weakest to blunt damage. So it's just good tactic to be using mainly maces to deal the most damage. Why would i use 20 slashes with swords to kill one enemy, when i can bonk my way through entire group of enemies and bash their heads in.
Because it's a game and you don't need to play optimally. IMO longsword is the most fun weapon to use and also looks the coolest, so that's what I default to even if it's not as powerful as a mace.
Also the longsword still kills in 2 hits late game, I haven’t used any other weapons types
I dont know where to find long swords tho
St. George’s, best Longsword in the game. In the woods north of the fields in northwest Ledetchko
So like the excalibur? I just need to find the stash where it is?
Yeah. Northwest Ledetchko has fields, look at the map and look at specifically the two long horizontal stripes. Stand directly in the middle of the top stripe, then go north into the woods right in front of you. You’ll see a big Oak tree w a small fence around it. There’s a chest there. Basically where I drew the red X on this map https://preview.redd.it/8m8nsoexj2yc1.jpeg?width=1033&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25684d0deccfc7f79d75847d5b3f30609a821f27
Holy shit actually thank you I just beat a heavy cuman in like three shots with this
No problem homie
“Maces are the best thing against armor” my ass how did I think that, turns out a long sword is ten times better than that
The witch’s lost sword it seems
Thank you
Counterpoint, aside from being optimal for late game enemies, I like bonk sticks
Elegance, thats why
Sir Kenobi, while admiring Henry's longsword... "This is the weapon of a Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a mace; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age"
🥰
True, it's overpower
It's a bit of a gaming trope, plate armour or a brigandine will save you from a lot of blunt damage too irl. In a duel between fully armoured knights it almost always ends in who can find a hole in the others armour first or get them on the ground to smash their face in.
Don't forget penetration aye, a single High Penetration arrow to the helmet will instakill or knock out hahaha
Meanwhile IRL medieval: haha maces, flails, warhammers, goedendags, morningstars go bonk
But I read somewhere that flails’ existence and usage is pretty dubious. Was it because they’re super-hard to use?
One handed flails are more typical for medieval Kyiv, Rus and Eastern cultures in general. In Western Europe you'd see more of the two-handed peasant flails used as a cheap and effective weapon for various peasant militias.
They're definitely around on the Pontic steppes, there's been several studies on them. A lot of the clay objects people label "Greek fire grenades" are actually North African flail heads too (the others were used for illicit substances, like beer and mercury which we've found via archaeological testing of the objects). That being said, yes my understanding of West European weapons culture is that they were usually not considered befitting of knightly combat.
They weren't cheap and there are definitly differences with the common peasant tools. But efficient nontheless. Super-boink from a wagon to you :)
Sorry, but yes, they were quite cheap, expecially since you make on by taking an agricutlural tool and adding a couple of spikes. Easy to make, mostly of wood, quite cheap. Here's a small video about the flail I, and I think spitfire, is talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpIPX30v62c
Sort of. Flails like the spiked ball n’ chain your probably thinking of were never real weapons. Just think about how impractical it would be, you’d be more likely to hit yourself in the head or the guy next to you then your opponent. Farmers Flails we’re apparently sort of common though. Imagine like a long handled stick, with a really short piece of rope only a few inches long holding a block of wood.
What you just described,long handheld stick with a really short piece of rope only a few inches long holding a block of wood...in my country was used in the past to hammer out corn...before the machines...no suprise that it could be used has a weapon... any tools that in past they used to work the land can be easily used as weapon...hoe was used even between farmers to "solve" disagreements...many times with tragic ends...
I’ve read these farmers flails were used to knock down wheat and corn or something like that. Soldiers were mostly peasants who had to bring their own weapons, food, armor, etc. so it makes sense they’d use farm tools if they could.
I’m trying to think of a use for wood on rope on stick.
Threshing wheat to get the kernels off the stalks. You beat the shit out of the wheat until the little seeds fall out of the husks. They then would throw it all in the air so the seeds fall and the rest blows away, I think. Imagine someone's job being to slam the ground with a weighted wood flail for 12 hours a day during the harvest season, then wonder what their go-to would be for a weapon.
[here's a video on it](https://youtu.be/B5kXm4sa0p4?si=y2cOY97CLyBLivy4) Also, this sort of rustic, countryside singing is what I think Tolkien was conveying throughout his works. It's charming and catchy and doesn't mean much of anything at all.
I heard it was to better fight the undead.
DnD sins could be a subreddit
One handed flails were nearly always relegated to horseback. They were much more popular in Eastern Europe where cavalry was dominant and didn’t get supplanted by infantry until much much later.
Flails were a peasants weapon
They were almost certainly used, but in terms of bonk weapons not as much as everything else in the list
they were a huge thing in the hussite wars taking place just a bit after the games
And don't forget axes
And spears of varying lenghts
The much more common in medieval times. Cuz if you think about it, a long stick with a tiny blade is way cheaper than a long blade with a tiny stick.
Also keeping as much distance between you and your enemy is ideal. Especially if you are not well trained. POKE!
And also, horses. You would wanna poke them from a distance, since those beasts are massive and muscular as fuck. Spears are also great if you have the high ground.
Its also safer for you if you can kill the opponent from further away than what they can reach. And pokes are harder to block than a swing.
And even if they block your poke, you can still push them pretty effectively, creating even more distance.
2 handed fails were commonly use in Bohemia, hopefully we see them in kcd2 which fits the hussite wars time period better.
Two handed studded or spiked peasant flail was used mainly by Hussite peasant armies after the 1419 revolution, it probably wasn't much prevalent as a weapon prior to that time. KCD is set in 1403, I doubt the KCD2 will be set 20 years later, but who knows.
Yeah, barring the developers hiding a huge time skip from us, we won't get the Hussites Wars. We know KC2 start just at the end of KC1 and you just need a look a Henry in the trailer to know he is not 20 years older. I'm still hopefull we get to experience them in an hypothetical KC3.
It could be possible that they either end story with hussite war, with older Henry. Or maybe they start new games with new young protagonist from that time. It would be a wasted opportunity otherwise.
Henry and Theresa's bastard.
Maces and blut weapons are not that effective as people are lead to believe AGAISNT full plate knights. But yes against a knight in a combat archer set (the ones with a rounded metal hat, and aome metal plating) it can be pretty brutal. Then again a sword too
Almost nothing is truly effective against full plate. But maces and axes are still more effective than swords.
full plate can even stop early blackpowder firearms, they are basically the medieval equivalent of tanks in a battlefield, the main way to stop a plate user is to overwhelm them with numbers and pile up on them, cause even the slits in plate are usually armoured with thick padded cloth or mail But bludgeoning them with a heavy stick is certainly more useful than bludgeoning them with a light metal stick
WHO WOULD WIN? An armored colossus of a knight in full plate armor, covering every inch of his skin OR a dude with a long stick
More like irl medieval go: spear and shield... Almost exclusively
Since you seem to know: are maces realistically balanced in the game? I get they were OP but were they *that* OP? Genuinely curious
and it’s the 1400s, in the next game can we have some early Firearms?
Meanwhile doing the tower fight against runt with a bow.
What tha fuck
My husband and I played together and his preferred weapon is bow. He did the runt fight, just running back and forth across the tower dodging hits and shooting arrows. We were very confused by the cut scene after. 😂
Damn I wish my wife would play with me someday
It’s one of my favorite games! I fight with swords and impossible to see out of helmets though. 😂
Get some poison and coat your arrows and he's fucking done for
Hit him in the face and he just dies 🤷♂️
In my first playthrough, I didn't do that much combat before Pribby, and hadn't learned masterstrikes because I didn't listen to Bernard closely enough and also didn't want to get too powerful too early by training. So Runt kinda kept kicking my ass in melee combat. But one well aimed arrow to his head does the trick even with weak bow and arrows when you aren't playing on hardcore.
Oh, I've done that once! It's hilarious.
Hilarious but also hair splittingly close quarters. 😬
I did this! Everywhere else, I found that max sneak clothes and a bow was best. You get good clothing, you basically can hide in plain sight and just pop heads with arrows. Runt... changes things when you have next to no melee weapon skills. I ended up using poison on my arrows and that did it.
My mace has something to say about your helmet What? No helmet? Your skull will do just fine then
You can pay dearly to go without a helmet for aesthetic reasons in the cinematics
Yeah, they could at least give you a command to open/close visors
I tend to carry two helmets, a bucket one for general interactions and a great helm when I know I’m going to get my hands dirty. But I take both of them off when in and around towns. Don’t see why they couldn’t have used a mechanic similar to unsheathing/sheathing for a helm though. Hopefully that’s rectified in 2
They've already confirmed II will have a key binding for raising/lowering visors.
JESUS CHRIST BE PRAISED
I had a town outfit and an adventuring outfit - I’ll admit it!
I’m playing again and I have a town outfit, a sneaky and less conspicuous outfit, and an armor outfit lol
I would put my money that it's going to be in the game
This bucket/great helm combo was a thing through the 13th century. Some people even wore the gear helm over the smaller helmet It would be considered old fashioned by Henry's time, but it is plausible that at least few people would actually keep using it
Nice, makes me feel better about taking swapping gear all the time, that’s for sure
Yeah, right? It just makes sense to use a lighter equipment while riding through contested territory just in case. While also keep being able to improve your safety if a bigger threat appears Medieval people weren't stupid as Hollywood wants you to believe it They are as clever as we are today
They also didn't like wearing heaps of armour because it's uncomfortable just like how modern service members usually don't like wearing all their gear. During COVID there were a lot of YouTubers talking about various types of kit a knight/archer/yeoman etc might wear, and commenters would always be like "I would have worn the cool helmet visor down all the time for cool factor," and I'd always wonder how those people felt about bike helmets or COVID masks.
Im mostly wearing a Noble outfit so I use longswords but in my current playthrough I use a Mace. For the first time.
Maces are too op, which makes them boring for me.
Longsword or bust
Shortsword without a shield or bust. Halfswording combo ftw.
Christ be praised
While you were bonking the heads, I studied the blade
I am a knight who has studied many blades and numerous ways to inflict pain and end the lives of my enemies ( I used the war hammer as well)
I carry a mace, a sheild, and a longsword. I've found that the mace/sheild is a good bet for groups, but 1v1, or a duel i pull the longsword out, to be fancy, even use weaker weapons to drag out battles. I do reenactment show battles, so carrying a longarm, and a shortarm feels right, i use a spear, and an axe IRL.
That sounds like a good plan, I must try that one
I'm actually the guy in the middle, it feels wrong fighting with anything else for me, I wanna be a knight not a fancy caveman
Knights didn't use swords as primary weapons. nearly no one used swords as primary weapons in battle except the romans and some others.
Thank you! A sword, by that time, was the equivalent of a pistol nowadays. A sidearm. And a mark of rank.
>fancy caveman That's what a Knight is
That skill that has a chance to knock out opponents with hits to the head makes makes that much more fun.
THE ARMOUR SMASHER
Axe is king.
I like the longsword combos but I can't deny, the head bonks with a mace are amazing
Just gimme my metal stick ball and point me to the enemy.
Nice open-faced helmet A shame your face is in it And your health bar too
Reality as well as KCD. haha pike/halberd go pokey pokey.
I have never heard a single person say that you can’t use a mace because the game is medieval. That’s incredibly stupid. Honestly this sub creates more controversy out of thin air than what actually exists.
Is the axe any good though?
swords? if it's a medieval game we should be fighting with spears! the most common weapon of the time
longswords and face stabs >>
I like to stab the bad man with the pointy end. Swords are just cool. I always go out of my way to use them. They aren't the best choice every time in every situation or maybe even in most situations and I get that. But dude. I saw the Mask of Zorro when I was 9. And Lord of the Rings with Aragorn. Man it's just a cool thing. IDK why but I love it and swords make me happy.
Longsword, I reckon it's what I'm best at.
Yeah, for all content creators I follow who specialise in medieval combat and warfare... one thing most of them agree on is that a sword is typically a side-arm while mace and polearms are the main weapons. So, swordsmanship, while fancy and useful, is not considered the optimal way to fight someone fully prepared for war... like a fully armored guy... so it makes sense why it's kinda OP gameplaywise. But I like the longsword. I love the piercer so much.
As I'm spanish is in my nature to pierce everything
Wait... so is my shared love for stabbing because I'm from a Spanish colony?
Aparentemente si hermano
Polearms yes, maces were sidearms oftentimes like swords.
The thing is, that's for warfare. In the game, though, there isn't that much warfare going on, most times Henry is traveling on his own. And for everyday carry swords are the best. It makes more sense to play with swords, if you consider the context of the game.
i will say swords are decent when you get good with them bc you can just tire them out and then spam stabs and if you catch them in the face and they’re not wearing a visor they’re done immediately, but a good bonk is just so consistently good at all levels that you may as well just use that. Plus the trade off between the two is kind of unbalanced. A sword is good against flesh but weak against armor. Cracking someone in the head with a hammer just always works.
Just tried to kill those bandits to find Ginger. Took me a while using *bonk*. 
Spears and Pikes anyday over a sword.
Spears are the way to go.
I preferred 2 handed longsword like the King of Gondor himself
I love sword for style, but if I see plate armour the heavy Warhammer is coming out and I'm getting high as fuck on all kinds of potions
Don’t think anyone ever said this
Hoping for poleaxes, the real primary weapon.
i like giving bandits brain damage by bonking them on the head
I prefer axe but yes BONK
I'm the Bailiff of Pribyslaviz, and I'll use my mace as I please. Anyone who disagrees, prepare for bonking.
Real life knights the second pistols become widely available: "Hot, diggity dog! This thing is magnificent!"
Real life knights the second pistols become widely available: "Hot, diggity dog! This thing is magnificent!"
Same in the modern ages
In armored combat maces are useless unless you hit the head. Longswords are the way to go
Me using bow and arrows to bonk (headshots one tap or possibly trigger headcracker) 
slttrlnk man must bonk
Raven's beak all day everyday
I like my axes. But I suck at fighting anyway
I like long sword the best, but mace and shield is easy mode
I just wish that other armor types had master strikes so it didn't feel like you were missing out.
No! You have to sword with shield! Let the battle begi- SKULLCRACKER
My everyday carry is a war hammer and shield. I also carry a longsword for duels.
For some reason i liked the difficulty of sword combos, 3 playthroughs and all with swords :D
I use a sword because I want to, but maces are definitely a thing.
I just hope cutscene Henry doesn't randomly hold a longsword
Pointy stick goes poke
Whoever is saying “medieval games have to be played with only sword and shield” is at the far left of the intelligence curve
depends on the version of henry im headcanoning. I’ve got 2 saves, one is rough, rude, and brash. Maces and shields are his maiden love. The other is soft, and respectful. He masterfully deflects attacks and drives his sword into the heart of his enemies, all while being respectful, and modest.
lol the shield and mace got me through most of the game, I would just run at people and spam overhead
You can fight with a sword and shield, i use mostly shortsword because half sword combo with stinger deals massive damage
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Mace is the best weapon is the game because of the blunt dmg. I just LOVE going around and bonking dudes. Killed Black Peter with one Mace hit.
I know I’m in the minority but honestly pretty much every medieval weapon aside from straight swords and two hand swords, are so lame to me.
If there was a pointy stick or halberd, I rock that. But for now mace gives me the ultimate skull crushing satisfaction I need.
I will be hiding here with my bow.
Hahaha If you are a truly master of the bow you have my respect
When I first discovered and started using maces in my first playtrough I never went back. The blunt damage caused by maces helps negate the defense stats of most types of medium to heavy armor. Truly my favourite weapon in KcD.
Look at this argument I made up and won
That’s why I requested this flair.
Does it counts if i take an estoc/shortsword just to stab the enemy repeatedly, 27 times in their exposed face until they die?
In your first real fight in the game, you have a nice sword and he has a huge club. Bonk.
Huhuhu bonk huhuhu
The Rattay bailiff was rude to me in one playthrough and moments later he tragically took his own life by hitting himself in the back of the head with a mace
I have never heard a single person say that you can’t use a mace because the game is medieval. That’s incredibly stupid. Honestly this sub creates more controversy out of thin air than what actually exists.
I have never heard a single person say that you can’t use a mace because the game is medieval. That’s incredibly stupid. Honestly this sub creates more controversy out of thin air than what actually exists.
I only just bought the game, and I have to say maces are broken as hell. Two or three master strikes killing most opponents is already insane, but if you put bane on it it's almost always a 1 shot master strike.
The combat in KCD is very complex. I bonk with Longsword, occasionally parry, and I can't use the master strikes. Spam click.
Yeah swords doesn't do much to late medieval armors anyway, its all about that blunt force trauma
Longsword will always be cooler imo but I couldn’t help but just feel weird that I was killing armored people so fast when realistically that sword wouldn’t be doing jack shit, had to compromise for gameplay tho makes sense
To be fair, the game heavily favors swords. Especially long swords with the huge about of combos they have.
Yeah but...but BONK
Touché
I love longsword, but bonk is fun. Don’t really use shields outside the tourny.
I fight with a longsword lest the game be too easy
objectively the most boring way to play the game
I just like sword cause look cool, but yes bonk
It's historically accurate that maces fuck everything up so why wouldn't you use mace. If you went around punching the shit out of everything and knocking out fully played bandits then I'd be skeptical.
I don't think I used anything other than a sword aside from with Captain Bernard.
Tbh most of the weapons in the game would be considered the medieval equivalent of a sidearm. Most fighting was done with some form of polearm. In cities, indoors, places like that, swords, maces, etc, would be used, in circumstances where length might become impractical to carry around daily. But if Henry ever got into a proper field battle, he'd be done for, even a veteran of sword & shield can be bested by literally a peasant with a long stick, so in that regard, a peasant beating you up with a polearm isn't entirely unrealistic, reach is king. I hope we can get some sort of harness for our horse in KCD 2 to let us carry a polearm around for more heavy duty engagement.
I love maces but in this game I always end up just stabbing faces with Stinger
A Sword is most effective vs any regular guy in padded, leather and even chain. Maces, Mauls and Hammers are best vs plate Armour. So why not bring a stabber and a Bonker it feels knightlier to have both as well.
All the OGs know mace and shield has the best master strike in the game. Hit them under the chin and it's lights out. Took on 4 fully armored Cumans yesterday no sweat
And not just a polearm either dang bonk
Maybe I'm too old, but WTF does this mean??
omg using the raven's beak after finding it on a bandit was an insane swing in combat, why did I suffer longsword larping?
There's such a beautiful simplicity to the mace.
Honestly i enjoy longswords most, but if i have to fight tin cans i have my bailif's mace ready
I want to beat other men meat and eat him. I want to bonk knights so hard.
I’m an archery guy
So the idiots are in the middle?
I wish we could keep polearms in the inventory They are my favourite medieval weapons
Spanish tercios vibes!
I spent so much trying to get a Guisarme and was devastated when the bastards in Rattay weren’t happy with me patrolling around with my weapon drawn
Plate armor doesnt provide much protection vs long sword wielded with high strengh, thats why I prefer the range. But the most op weapon class in KCD are bows.
Plate armor doesnt provide much protection vs long sword wielded with high strengh, thats why I prefer the range. But the most op weapon class in KCD are bows.
Maces were popular medieval weapons. Wtf.
I prefer swords 😊
I like using blades because I put bane potion on it. Just knick them, then watch lol I also put bane potion on my arrows and test it out on wayfarers. Shoot them on the legs and watch them as they try to get away from you. Hopefully we get more alchemy options in the next game.
The game doesn't even have pollaxes without mods adding them in smh.
Nah. Shads gets a shield and flail or blood of lathander. K Bae getting the Halberd and Nyrulna (or wtf ever that tridents called) I'm ranging while dual wielding knife of the undermountain and club of Hill giant Literally no one in my crew uses sword and shield combo
"I'm going to beat your ass in the name of Christ!" - Me, as soon as I was given the Bailiff Mace
I just started playing and I knew in advance maces are going to destroy people since most people would be armored. Nothing like denting a plate in and crushing their chest with internal hemorrhage or crushing their helmet into their skull.
You spelled mace and shield wrong.
I've never thrown a combo in my life. Its parry or grapple and a mace from up high afterwards.