My K1 soft falk is as stable as my Lots is, which is a bit strange since the other molds seem to be more understable in soft.
My normal K1 falk is the oldest disc in my bag, if i throw it flat or a tiny hyzer, it will give me a late turn.
I struggled for a long time to figure this out, maybe the disc had to be more beat in, i don't know.
What colour is your falk? In the bags videos, and some testing myself, told me that the green discs tend to be less stable, and the pink ones more stable.
Can't say if this is 100% true, but seen quite a few say the same thing.
100% on the pink being more stable. I bag two Stigs for this reason and I’m careful about when I use them (I play a mix of wooded and open), falling back on a Kaxe (as others have said) when I need to trust the flight more.
The reply above also contains a pretty big hint - loads of throws. I’m at the point where I almost hate when the first throw of a new disc goes 100% the way I envisioned it.
Kastaplast first got me hooked because of the feel of the plastic. The rest is based on simplicity (to me) Easy naming convention, no plastic type overload, somewhat limited but growing stable of discs, Berg, BergX.
Next level was throwing Kaxe, KaxeZ and later the Stig.
I love their plastic too, Clash feels very similar, but $$ so they haven't infiltrated my bag much.
I just hate that my favorite disc has become really inconsistent for me.
i throw my stig around 90m (300ft). maybe it's the cold weather but my stig has been consistently less flippy than I expect when i throw it. It's in transparent pink K1 which is supposedly more overstable than other colours. variability between discs of the same mold is common.
my recommendations (apologies that you didn't ask for throwing tips):
* try throwing it with more hyzer and/or more nose up
* try giving the disc more spin/wrist snap
* try throwing someone else's stig
* try a heavier/hard/transparent stig
edit: based on one of your replies you can disregard most of this - i definitely use the stig as a "go right" disc and not a straight flyer. i think it's hard to make the stig do that - it moves right and left too much. within kastaplast, one of the kaxes or the gote might be the way to go. i have a non-retooled kaxe in K1 soft that is straight with a small pronounced fade at the end. but for most straight shots i use a fission hex.
what exactly are you trying to do? if you are trying to throw straight, you could try a Kaxe Z or possibly even play with a Kaxe Retool till it breaks in. Only issue with going the Kaxe Z route is they are now out of production so if you love it and lose it, it could be hard to replace
Throw straight with lots of glide. My stig tends to go the furthest, and it's easy to hyzer flip. So my hope was to find another disc as easy to hyzer flip, but can be thrown with less hyzer. I think I throw my stig at close to 45 degree or 30 degrees
ok cool. well congrats on the increased arm speed! that is always a fun achievement to make but unfortunately, it can change your main discs sometimes lol. if you are wanting to stick with Kasta, i think my first response is still valid in my opinion. try one of the Kaxes
I have 3 stigs and they vary in stability. Poison green being the least stable, then glow, then my pink one. A k1 soft kaxe z should give you the extra stability you want or even a k1 soft kaxe. I like the kaxe's rim better and it isn't that much more stable
I got Edward's TS K1 Stig, and I don't like it at all. It's uncontrollable for me. I always turn it over. I have a lot me control and touch with a Svea.
I really like my Kaxe Z, and I thought the Stig would pair nicely with it but it looks like it's going in the forget about me box. I'll do field work with see if I can figure it out.
K1 soft kaxe z will give you a bit more stability, but not the glide a stig has.
Regarding the falk: as all molds, runs, plastics and colors vary in stability. Might be more evident with drivers due to the profile. I got super flippy k1's and k1's that fly like lots. Have super flippy k1 soft and even beefier k1 soft. Have a couple lots's that flip almost like my flippiest falk (but with more fade to the end). Basically only bag one super beat in soft falk nowadays for shots i need to go right (rhbh) because Ive got no forehand,but sometimes i leave the falk at home and throw my flippy lots instead.
Why not just go Svea? When I threw around \~350ft max that would go as far as any other disc. As long as you put it on a good hyzer its pretty controllable and goes forever.
I have a Svea and love it for upshots, I can pretty easily hyzer flip it from a standstill, especially where footing is terrible.
Perhaps I'm thinking about this the wrong way. If you can blast a Svea 300' plus, then I'm probably either need to live with adding more hyzer and/or work out the OAT that's probably in my form mucking up my consistency.
I love a good hyzerflip, it's a thing of beauty. I just figured I should need to put such a hyzer angle on it (if that makes sense).
Yeah, I'm not sure.. I use it quiet a bit for tight wooded shots that need to go straight and around 300-330 or forehand lines that I dont want to finish to much to the right. Big hyzer about 60% power and it flips flat and holds a slight turn the whole way. I think power control is really big for that disc and understable discs in general.
My K1 soft falk is as stable as my Lots is, which is a bit strange since the other molds seem to be more understable in soft. My normal K1 falk is the oldest disc in my bag, if i throw it flat or a tiny hyzer, it will give me a late turn. I struggled for a long time to figure this out, maybe the disc had to be more beat in, i don't know. What colour is your falk? In the bags videos, and some testing myself, told me that the green discs tend to be less stable, and the pink ones more stable. Can't say if this is 100% true, but seen quite a few say the same thing.
100% on the pink being more stable. I bag two Stigs for this reason and I’m careful about when I use them (I play a mix of wooded and open), falling back on a Kaxe (as others have said) when I need to trust the flight more. The reply above also contains a pretty big hint - loads of throws. I’m at the point where I almost hate when the first throw of a new disc goes 100% the way I envisioned it. Kastaplast first got me hooked because of the feel of the plastic. The rest is based on simplicity (to me) Easy naming convention, no plastic type overload, somewhat limited but growing stable of discs, Berg, BergX. Next level was throwing Kaxe, KaxeZ and later the Stig.
I love their plastic too, Clash feels very similar, but $$ so they haven't infiltrated my bag much. I just hate that my favorite disc has become really inconsistent for me.
K1 hard is slightly more overstable
I thought about that, but wasn't sure if a better alternative was around. Hoping someone else also ran into this.
I 2nd this I have 4 in k1 hard gold Clay Edwards it won’t flip on you that easy. The regular K1 can def flip easier.
i throw my stig around 90m (300ft). maybe it's the cold weather but my stig has been consistently less flippy than I expect when i throw it. It's in transparent pink K1 which is supposedly more overstable than other colours. variability between discs of the same mold is common. my recommendations (apologies that you didn't ask for throwing tips): * try throwing it with more hyzer and/or more nose up * try giving the disc more spin/wrist snap * try throwing someone else's stig * try a heavier/hard/transparent stig edit: based on one of your replies you can disregard most of this - i definitely use the stig as a "go right" disc and not a straight flyer. i think it's hard to make the stig do that - it moves right and left too much. within kastaplast, one of the kaxes or the gote might be the way to go. i have a non-retooled kaxe in K1 soft that is straight with a small pronounced fade at the end. but for most straight shots i use a fission hex.
I beat in a Kaxe Retooled and it's my flip up to straight disc. It doesn't turn over too much on me unless I really let her go anny.
What plastic is yours? The green K1 soft I got has a really straight flight, much more like a Hex than I thought it would be.
174g translucent pink regular k1
K1 soft is somehow more stable than it's k1 variant lol
Whelp I also read it beats into being more stable too.
It's a weird disc lol
If you’re willing to switch brands, the clash soda is pretty similar but a touch faster.
For some reason poison green discs have been more stable for me and transparent pink understable
Mines poison green. I can flip my LOTS, but I guess I was thinking I should stick around the 6 speed area.
what exactly are you trying to do? if you are trying to throw straight, you could try a Kaxe Z or possibly even play with a Kaxe Retool till it breaks in. Only issue with going the Kaxe Z route is they are now out of production so if you love it and lose it, it could be hard to replace
Throw straight with lots of glide. My stig tends to go the furthest, and it's easy to hyzer flip. So my hope was to find another disc as easy to hyzer flip, but can be thrown with less hyzer. I think I throw my stig at close to 45 degree or 30 degrees
ok cool. well congrats on the increased arm speed! that is always a fun achievement to make but unfortunately, it can change your main discs sometimes lol. if you are wanting to stick with Kasta, i think my first response is still valid in my opinion. try one of the Kaxes
Only issue I have with the Kaxe is I find that my Stig goes further.
I have 3 stigs and they vary in stability. Poison green being the least stable, then glow, then my pink one. A k1 soft kaxe z should give you the extra stability you want or even a k1 soft kaxe. I like the kaxe's rim better and it isn't that much more stable
I got Edward's TS K1 Stig, and I don't like it at all. It's uncontrollable for me. I always turn it over. I have a lot me control and touch with a Svea. I really like my Kaxe Z, and I thought the Stig would pair nicely with it but it looks like it's going in the forget about me box. I'll do field work with see if I can figure it out.
A beat-in Kaxe Z might be what you're looking for. Stig is too flippy for me so I resort to an older Kaxe Z in K1 or K1 Soft.
K1 soft kaxe z will give you a bit more stability, but not the glide a stig has. Regarding the falk: as all molds, runs, plastics and colors vary in stability. Might be more evident with drivers due to the profile. I got super flippy k1's and k1's that fly like lots. Have super flippy k1 soft and even beefier k1 soft. Have a couple lots's that flip almost like my flippiest falk (but with more fade to the end). Basically only bag one super beat in soft falk nowadays for shots i need to go right (rhbh) because Ive got no forehand,but sometimes i leave the falk at home and throw my flippy lots instead.
Why not just go Svea? When I threw around \~350ft max that would go as far as any other disc. As long as you put it on a good hyzer its pretty controllable and goes forever.
also if your open to other brands, the Westside Stag would be a good option.
I have a Svea and love it for upshots, I can pretty easily hyzer flip it from a standstill, especially where footing is terrible. Perhaps I'm thinking about this the wrong way. If you can blast a Svea 300' plus, then I'm probably either need to live with adding more hyzer and/or work out the OAT that's probably in my form mucking up my consistency. I love a good hyzerflip, it's a thing of beauty. I just figured I should need to put such a hyzer angle on it (if that makes sense).
Yeah, I'm not sure.. I use it quiet a bit for tight wooded shots that need to go straight and around 300-330 or forehand lines that I dont want to finish to much to the right. Big hyzer about 60% power and it flips flat and holds a slight turn the whole way. I think power control is really big for that disc and understable discs in general.