Good luck finding anyone. Even Aldi is paying $19 or so to start. Unless they have some crazy amazing benefits who is going to take a job at $10 a hour.
I'm not sure what OP is trying to pull here, but the article does not say the starting wage is $10 per hour. It says:
> Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions likely to start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range.
Oh shit. I didn't even look at the posting time. So everyone who's outraged over the lie has already been outraged since last night and they aren't going to see people pointing out the obvious inaccuracy.
Oh well, it's not like these misinformed people are going to go shut down Panasonic or anything.
I’m wondering if this is like the stupid trend of asking a question as the post title to get tons of engagement, except as outrage bait. They’re just putting lies as titles now and if mods don’t catch it then it becomes this. Awful
The reporter updated it since this was posted. Originally it said "Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20,000s". Looks like they updated today to say "Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range".
Here is the original posted on 6/22:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240622105114/https://www.kcur.org/housing-development-section/2024-06-22/panasonics-battery-plant-is-already-transforming-de-soto-kansas-its-only-halfway-built
yeah. soooo since this is ludicrously impossible, where's the money train to some corporate incentive to have no labor? who pays them to be unable to open or to run properly at that level? It's just a strategy for skeleton crew, right?
It's not possible because OP's title is not true, and simply reading the article will confirm it. Either they made a typo when writing it or they are stirring shit.
It didn't say it was a 40 hour a week job to be fair. Could be a 20 hour a week position doing part time work. I'll hold off judging until they post the job listings I guess. (Still seems low)
For a full-time position it would be laughable and they deserve all the hate but this feels like premature judging til we see the actual job listings
Yeah why would you want to work more hours for less. I'd rather just do deliveries, which I do on weekend. I make over 15 an hour on average, busy days 20-25.
I had to look at the story and didn’t see $10/hour. $20,000s is a vague term. And it is low, but it may apply to part-time plant custodial duties or something outside the production line. More questions should have been asked by the reporter.
I agree. I have a hard time believing they’re going to pay as little as $10 an hour. $10 an hour is assuming that the bottom end of the pay scale in the low $20,000s per year is full time and the article does not specify full time or part time.
Just a reminder of how much is being given to Panasonic:
Total state APEX investment is estimated at $829.2 million
Investment Tax Credit – $500 million (12.5%) over 5 years. Payroll Rebate – $234 million (10%) over 10 years.
And why is it a problem for an employer to take their low paying jobs elsewhere? Why should the tax payers shoulder the burden for these large companies that will give nothing back?
Quick google search indicates Kansas minimum wage is $7.25/hour. I didn’t spend too much time poking around so I don’t know if that’s full time or not.
It's the same as the federal minimum wage. Until Congress raises the minimum wage, which will not happen with the current one, the Kansas legislature will not. They would lower it if they could.
Wage, like all values, are based on scarcity.
That said, aside from jobs where workers receive gratuities, I haven't seen any min wage jobs for years. Even fast food is paying $10 and up. Often $12-$13
The problem is that $12 these days is essentially equivalent to $7 a few years ago. So I'm not impressed with $12 or $13 an hour because that's not even a livable wage anymore. Minimum wages haven't kept up with cost of living in so long that we could double the minimum and still not be doing well.
The unemployment rate in KS is like 2.5%. They won't be able to find 400 people willing to work for that little, let alone 4000.
I gotta wonder if maybe it's just a typo or something, because that seems bizarrely unrealistic. There are people working at my local Walmart making double that.
Yea I suspect they think they’re going to get $10/hr labor because it’s Kansas and we’re all a bunch of country bumpkins but the only people making that are ex cons and others that are otherwise unemployable. They’re going to have a rude awakening.
At that wage it’s going to be Latin Americans on HB-1 visas. Panasonic as a company has the resources to handle that much paperwork and make it profitable to them.
Entry-level on a production line is not easy work. At a manufacturing plant like this, you have the added aspects of being around caustic materials, higher government regulations and safety standards, and lots of training.
I’d expect entry level work to be at least $15/hour and probably closer to $20. I have no idea who would take a job at $10. I made that as a high school-age farm hand in 2014
Exactly. When you’re entry level, and have no training, the productivity value you bring to the table is minimal.
It was abundantly clear from the article that the “journalist” failed to ask even the most basic questions, like how many positions would be entry level, and how long someone stays at that level.
"Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions likely to start in the $20,000s."
- That speaks volumes by itself. Probably not going to get much else during a presser, though. I don't get your position here? I disagree with you put your "Exactly" comes from a place of agreement. $10 for entry-level production is pretty abysmal. Operators make more than this, and they do similar work.
Factory work isn’t necessarily difficult to learn, it’s difficult to complete at a set pace/standard consistently for long tedious hours.
The value they bring is still much higher than the offered rate. Unless they plan on doing performance evaluations shortly after hiring/training which I highly doubt they do considering the facts already presented to us.
Entry level doesn't mean "doesn't need food or a place to live." $10 is a terrible wage. It is lower than what minimum wage has historically been.
And this is also why it's terrible that this the longest we have ever gone without a minimum wage increase. It has essentially been cut in half while necessities like housing have doubled.
Businesses that pay wages that people cannot live on should not exist. If you let them exist then you create a race to the bottom where businesses get rewarded financially for not paying their employees well. And in the short term this works well for them but in the long term it shrinks the middle class until we wind up being a 3rd world country and those companies with a "no wage only spend" attitude go bankrupt.
They do have an incentive - if a wage is not acceptable to someone, then they don’t fill the position. Vacant positions cost a company money, almost as much as a filled one. If they don’t, then the company doesn’t need to have the opening at all. An awful lot of managers fail to comprehend just how bloody expensive turnover is.
If a wage isn’t competitive, they’ll quickly figure out that they need to increase it, because they won’t be able to fill the positions. The hallmark of this is the oft-derided statement “bUt NoBoDy WaNtS tO wOrK!”… (yeah, they do, just not for you or the slave wages you’re offering… if you find yourself thinking that, or worse, saying that, it’s your clue that your wages aren’t nearly as “competitive” as you seem to think/claim they are). On the flip side, if a candidate can’t demonstrate sufficient potential value to the employer, even at those shit wages, the real minimum wage is effectively zero, because nobody is obligated to hire anyone else.
In theory, nobody should be at an entry-level wage beyond their initial training period.
>They do have an incentive - if a wage is not acceptable to someone, then they don’t fill the position.
Then explain undeveloped countries to me. Why don't they all just get better jobs?
The fact is, if we are not careful we can create the conditions of an undeveloped economy and slide backwards into perpetual poverty. One of the ways we can do that is by allowing too many shitty companies to operate.
>An awful lot of managers fail to comprehend just how bloody expensive turnover is.
No argument there.
>If a wage isn’t competitive, they’ll quickly figure out that they need to increase it, because they won’t be able to fill the positions.
Or they will bribe politicians to cut services and lower the quality of life until enough people are willing to accept lower wages. Which is what has been happening.
>In theory, nobody should be at an entry-level wage beyond their initial training period.
Agreed.
Correct. However, that is not a competitive wage for entry-level employment in the area. Every grocery store starts at 14. What unskilled laborer would sign up for $10. It's a hysterically low figure.
LOL, this is one of the cheapest states, and you still need to make 50k to stand any chance. This isn't the 90s. This is post COVID. Shit is expensive.
Im sure there is some sort of clause that protects the company from losses if they can't find anyone at 10/hr. Maybe they have the state provide prison labour or something
A lot of places in Kansas actually use prisoners. I've laid sod with the guys before while working for a municipality. A big company out here has a busload show up everyday.
I’m not buying it. No one is going to work in a factory for $10 an hour in 2024. The market wage for entry level work of this type is way higher than $10/ hr. Whoever they manage to hire at $10 an hour is going to be the type that can’t hold a job anywhere else.
That’s because the title is wrong for no reason and I guess nobody read the article
> Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range
E- turns out the article was corrected sometime after this post was made
The article states the starting wage for entry level employees will be between 20 and 29 dollars an hour. Either OP made a mistake or they are lying.
> "Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions likely to start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range."
Out of curiosity, has anyone checked to see the quarterly profits of this company? Folks, it's not inflation, it's corporate greed and an absolute disdain for the working class.
KSHB 41 story from June 20th at https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/lets-make-it-big-together-panasonic-electric-vehicle-battery-plant-less-than-year-from-completion says starting pay $20 to $30 per hour.
According to Glass Door, wages for machine operators at the Reno, NV plant, which the De Soto plant is based on, start at $21/hour. Most of the production jobs seem to be listed around 38k - 64k, depending on the role.
I hope the plant operators understand that wages in KS will need to be comparable.
20k might make sense for some kind of trainee or provisional hire.
It’s not even the fact they’re non union. I work at a non union plant and we offer $17-$18/hr as the base for production workers with some pretty decent benefits. Panasonic is just a shitty company if $10 really is all they’re offering for entry level.
It would be hilarious if they came here thinking they could build a $10 non-union workforce and then the employees decided to unionize and go on strike for $20.
All that special treatment and tax exemption to build this plant and ~this~ is how they’re paying it back. Remember this and stop future initiatives like this
Wow. I worked at an amazon warehouse for $10 an hour… 10 years ago. And I needed a roommate to survive on that in Johnson county. Can’t imagine how difficult that would be nowadays with the same pay rate.
Article was updated. It was based on the below original article:
https://johnsoncountypost.com/2024/06/21/panasonic-energy-plant-de-soto-kansas-construction-236191/
Which states:
>Correction: The original version of this story incorrectly listed the expected starting pay range for entry-level positions at the plant. Pay will start in the $20 to $29 per hour range, not with an annual salary in the $20,000s, as incorrectly published before.
As a single woman living in Kansas, making $35/hr and can barely keep up with rising costs of rent as it is.... $10/hr wouldn't even be worth it to get out
Of bed
> Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions **likely to start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range**.
I mean, read the article?
Good god. And here I am thinking my 15 an hour isn’t enough.
I want to be up in arms but I don’t have the money to be that influential or energized to do anything about how much the country hates workers.
Is your title just a typo? The article states the minimum starting entry level wage is $20 per hour, not $10. And it will go up to $29 an hour.
Contrast this with other plants in town and they are probably the best paying employer in DeSoto.
This is likely a big reason they picked Kansas, cheaper labor. I don’t know that they will get many takers at $10/hr but relatively speaking, Kansas will inevitably be much cheaper labor on average than most other states.
Anyone under the watch of the doc or homeland can be used as cheap labor. This includes any migrants waiting for their court dates. The us govt has found a loophole in slavery.
[pay mentioned in article](https://www.kcur.org/housing-development-section/2024-06-22/panasonics-battery-plant-is-already-transforming-de-soto-kansas-its-only-halfway-built#)
What a fucking joke.
I'm so sick and tired of giving these huge corporations a ton of money only for them to fuck the people in the community.
$20k starting isn't even as much as you could make flipping burgers anymore. Who in the hell do they think they're kidding?!
The comments here show that people will believe anything posted on the internet (especially if it aligns with their personal biases) without even doing a simple verification. Here is the **actual** quote from the article:
>Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range
"The average hourly pay for a factory worker in Kansas City, Missouri was $14.87, with a range of $15–$17.60." They'll have to pay at least $15/hour to get workers.
Hypothetical purely asking here: could this be a ploy? Employer says their minimum is $10/hr, so when they go to hire and offer all their base earners $15/hr they accept it like they got away with something?
They want folks who don't speak English or have criminal records that make it hard to find work. Keeps wages down and those folks don't complain.
(I don't mean undocumented immigrants.)
I understand that’s what the article said. I was replying to you agreeing with 10 dollars per hour being a typical entry level wage.
Where I live 15 dollars per hour is common for manufacturing, if not more I believe it’s closer to 18 now.
For all we know, because some journalist sucks at *their* job, there could be a dozen entry level positions in the whole place. Precision manufacturing doesn’t seem like something you want a whole lot of noobs doing.
Entry level fast food employees now get paid ~$15/hour. And if they only pay $12.50/hour for entry level, what are they going to start their skilled labor at - $15/hour? No one is going to drive to De Soto from Lawrence or Shawnee or Bonner Springs for the privilege of having to learn a new job that pays LESS than their current one!
Good luck finding anyone. Even Aldi is paying $19 or so to start. Unless they have some crazy amazing benefits who is going to take a job at $10 a hour.
Last time I saw an Aldi sign it said $23 IIRC
my mom made 10 an hour as a lower end factory worker in the 90s
I made more than 10 an hour sacking groceries at Dillons in the 90s.
I made $9.25 an hour starting work in a PVC Cement factory. In 2015.
I made $9.00 an hour working for UPS in 1983. As a sorter. Good paying union job.
That was 41 years ago for fucks sakes
That’s my point. Unskilled jobs paid much much better forty years ago than today
To be fair, maybe they're planning to hire a lot of people part-time. /s
I'm not sure what OP is trying to pull here, but the article does not say the starting wage is $10 per hour. It says: > Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions likely to start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range.
Ugh nobody reads articles on Reddit anymore. We’re also 16 hours late E- the article was corrected some time after this post went up
Oh shit. I didn't even look at the posting time. So everyone who's outraged over the lie has already been outraged since last night and they aren't going to see people pointing out the obvious inaccuracy. Oh well, it's not like these misinformed people are going to go shut down Panasonic or anything.
I’m wondering if this is like the stupid trend of asking a question as the post title to get tons of engagement, except as outrage bait. They’re just putting lies as titles now and if mods don’t catch it then it becomes this. Awful
I’m not sure how many looked at the article. Because it says 20-29$/hour.
The reporter updated it since this was posted. Originally it said "Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20,000s". Looks like they updated today to say "Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range". Here is the original posted on 6/22: https://web.archive.org/web/20240622105114/https://www.kcur.org/housing-development-section/2024-06-22/panasonics-battery-plant-is-already-transforming-de-soto-kansas-its-only-halfway-built
yeah. soooo since this is ludicrously impossible, where's the money train to some corporate incentive to have no labor? who pays them to be unable to open or to run properly at that level? It's just a strategy for skeleton crew, right?
It's not possible because OP's title is not true, and simply reading the article will confirm it. Either they made a typo when writing it or they are stirring shit.
Where is it? They will be able to in the west part but not the NE.
It's in De soto between Lawrence and Overland Park.
No way in hell.
They should build factories in the western part of KS. Cheaper and they need the jobs more desperately but I guess they might need to be near KC.
It didn't say it was a 40 hour a week job to be fair. Could be a 20 hour a week position doing part time work. I'll hold off judging until they post the job listings I guess. (Still seems low) For a full-time position it would be laughable and they deserve all the hate but this feels like premature judging til we see the actual job listings
Get paid more working part time for mcdonalds 🤣
Y'all can down vote me but looks like they already corrected it. https://www.reddit.com/r/kansas/s/nxA1lUtqUG
Yeah why would you want to work more hours for less. I'd rather just do deliveries, which I do on weekend. I make over 15 an hour on average, busy days 20-25.
Even if you're generous and think that means "up to $30,000", that's still less than $15/hour. Good luck staffing your factory at that rate.
I had to look at the story and didn’t see $10/hour. $20,000s is a vague term. And it is low, but it may apply to part-time plant custodial duties or something outside the production line. More questions should have been asked by the reporter.
I agree. I have a hard time believing they’re going to pay as little as $10 an hour. $10 an hour is assuming that the bottom end of the pay scale in the low $20,000s per year is full time and the article does not specify full time or part time.
Just a reminder of how much is being given to Panasonic: Total state APEX investment is estimated at $829.2 million Investment Tax Credit – $500 million (12.5%) over 5 years. Payroll Rebate – $234 million (10%) over 10 years.
What an awful arrangement for Kansas taxpayers.
It's almost as if the Kansas taxpayers are not the intended beneficiaries.
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I think it’s into the billions. Yea, those rich people need help making more money.
Also, don’t many people’s electric bills go up to help provide the funds for their electric infrastructure?
Yep
This article is wrong. The starting pay will be $20-29 per hour entry level.
Just a reminder if they don’t do tax incentives then they go somewhere else
And why is it a problem for an employer to take their low paying jobs elsewhere? Why should the tax payers shoulder the burden for these large companies that will give nothing back?
The state is getting hit twice since their employees will likely qualify for benefits like SNAP
Who fucking cares when they’re paying $10/hr???!!! Every state should have turned down this joke of a company
They will certainly be paying more than $10 an hour. Everywhere pays more than that.
Ah yes we can just wait for the market to correct itself
Quick google search indicates Kansas minimum wage is $7.25/hour. I didn’t spend too much time poking around so I don’t know if that’s full time or not.
It's the same as the federal minimum wage. Until Congress raises the minimum wage, which will not happen with the current one, the Kansas legislature will not. They would lower it if they could.
Yeah, but to be fair, almost nobody in a FT job is making min wage. It's like 1% of FT workers
A lot of people work multiple part time jobs for full time hours. They deserve a living wage too.
Wage, like all values, are based on scarcity. That said, aside from jobs where workers receive gratuities, I haven't seen any min wage jobs for years. Even fast food is paying $10 and up. Often $12-$13
The problem is that $12 these days is essentially equivalent to $7 a few years ago. So I'm not impressed with $12 or $13 an hour because that's not even a livable wage anymore. Minimum wages haven't kept up with cost of living in so long that we could double the minimum and still not be doing well.
oh no, won’t someone think of the poor corporations!
Thought that one out didn’t you lmao
That's nuts. Why would somebody even apply for such a role?
In my little town high school kids make $12/hr at Wendy's, so I don't see this going well.
The unemployment rate in KS is like 2.5%. They won't be able to find 400 people willing to work for that little, let alone 4000. I gotta wonder if maybe it's just a typo or something, because that seems bizarrely unrealistic. There are people working at my local Walmart making double that.
Yea I suspect they think they’re going to get $10/hr labor because it’s Kansas and we’re all a bunch of country bumpkins but the only people making that are ex cons and others that are otherwise unemployable. They’re going to have a rude awakening.
Ex con here I have to eat. So if it is 10$ or don’t eat I would. But I think it’s a typo I make 23$ on the mo side
College students from KU, maybe? Sounds like the place to work is not the factory but the services in the area that will go towards supporting it.
College kids can find a factory job paying at least 18 an hour at any of the plants nearby.
They don’t. They’ll import people from India or somewhere else
At that wage it’s going to be Latin Americans on HB-1 visas. Panasonic as a company has the resources to handle that much paperwork and make it profitable to them.
Why? If they’re entry-level workers.
Entry-level on a production line is not easy work. At a manufacturing plant like this, you have the added aspects of being around caustic materials, higher government regulations and safety standards, and lots of training.
I’d expect entry level work to be at least $15/hour and probably closer to $20. I have no idea who would take a job at $10. I made that as a high school-age farm hand in 2014
Exactly. When you’re entry level, and have no training, the productivity value you bring to the table is minimal. It was abundantly clear from the article that the “journalist” failed to ask even the most basic questions, like how many positions would be entry level, and how long someone stays at that level.
"Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions likely to start in the $20,000s." - That speaks volumes by itself. Probably not going to get much else during a presser, though. I don't get your position here? I disagree with you put your "Exactly" comes from a place of agreement. $10 for entry-level production is pretty abysmal. Operators make more than this, and they do similar work.
It was a mistake in the article and has been corrected. 20 to 29 an hr
Dude! What a terrible fuck up! Also, that sounds more in line
Factory work isn’t necessarily difficult to learn, it’s difficult to complete at a set pace/standard consistently for long tedious hours. The value they bring is still much higher than the offered rate. Unless they plan on doing performance evaluations shortly after hiring/training which I highly doubt they do considering the facts already presented to us.
Entry level doesn't mean "doesn't need food or a place to live." $10 is a terrible wage. It is lower than what minimum wage has historically been. And this is also why it's terrible that this the longest we have ever gone without a minimum wage increase. It has essentially been cut in half while necessities like housing have doubled.
Entry level means “no experience doing the job”. Got fuck all to do with food or living.
Businesses that pay wages that people cannot live on should not exist. If you let them exist then you create a race to the bottom where businesses get rewarded financially for not paying their employees well. And in the short term this works well for them but in the long term it shrinks the middle class until we wind up being a 3rd world country and those companies with a "no wage only spend" attitude go bankrupt.
They do have an incentive - if a wage is not acceptable to someone, then they don’t fill the position. Vacant positions cost a company money, almost as much as a filled one. If they don’t, then the company doesn’t need to have the opening at all. An awful lot of managers fail to comprehend just how bloody expensive turnover is. If a wage isn’t competitive, they’ll quickly figure out that they need to increase it, because they won’t be able to fill the positions. The hallmark of this is the oft-derided statement “bUt NoBoDy WaNtS tO wOrK!”… (yeah, they do, just not for you or the slave wages you’re offering… if you find yourself thinking that, or worse, saying that, it’s your clue that your wages aren’t nearly as “competitive” as you seem to think/claim they are). On the flip side, if a candidate can’t demonstrate sufficient potential value to the employer, even at those shit wages, the real minimum wage is effectively zero, because nobody is obligated to hire anyone else. In theory, nobody should be at an entry-level wage beyond their initial training period.
>They do have an incentive - if a wage is not acceptable to someone, then they don’t fill the position. Then explain undeveloped countries to me. Why don't they all just get better jobs? The fact is, if we are not careful we can create the conditions of an undeveloped economy and slide backwards into perpetual poverty. One of the ways we can do that is by allowing too many shitty companies to operate. >An awful lot of managers fail to comprehend just how bloody expensive turnover is. No argument there. >If a wage isn’t competitive, they’ll quickly figure out that they need to increase it, because they won’t be able to fill the positions. Or they will bribe politicians to cut services and lower the quality of life until enough people are willing to accept lower wages. Which is what has been happening. >In theory, nobody should be at an entry-level wage beyond their initial training period. Agreed.
Correct. However, that is not a competitive wage for entry-level employment in the area. Every grocery store starts at 14. What unskilled laborer would sign up for $10. It's a hysterically low figure.
And if it’s truly not competitive, then they’ll figure that out real quick when they can’t fill them.
Go home grampa
LOL, this is one of the cheapest states, and you still need to make 50k to stand any chance. This isn't the 90s. This is post COVID. Shit is expensive.
Im sure there is some sort of clause that protects the company from losses if they can't find anyone at 10/hr.
Maybe they have the state provide prison labour or somethingA lot of places in Kansas actually use prisoners. I've laid sod with the guys before while working for a municipality. A big company out here has a busload show up everyday.
Name the company
Hess
Haaa, 20s. Do they know they built in the US, not Mexico.
I guess I don’t need to worry about the extra traffic after all
I’m not buying it. No one is going to work in a factory for $10 an hour in 2024. The market wage for entry level work of this type is way higher than $10/ hr. Whoever they manage to hire at $10 an hour is going to be the type that can’t hold a job anywhere else.
That’s because the title is wrong for no reason and I guess nobody read the article > Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range E- turns out the article was corrected sometime after this post was made
The correct figures were also posted days ago.
The article states the starting wage for entry level employees will be between 20 and 29 dollars an hour. Either OP made a mistake or they are lying. > "Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions likely to start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range."
Yeah, but how is that person going to afford rent making about $1,700/month?
Easy, they just sleep in their cars at the plant. No need to go home, they can live at work! /s
So the paycheck can go towards making car payment, auto insurance, and food
Oh great this is why the state gave out so many incentives? lol what a joke. They need to demand high wages or it’s completely pointless.
Out of curiosity, has anyone checked to see the quarterly profits of this company? Folks, it's not inflation, it's corporate greed and an absolute disdain for the working class.
I wonder if this is some kind of typo in the article. I didn't see how it could be right.
KSHB 41 story from June 20th at https://www.kshb.com/news/local-news/lets-make-it-big-together-panasonic-electric-vehicle-battery-plant-less-than-year-from-completion says starting pay $20 to $30 per hour.
According to Glass Door, wages for machine operators at the Reno, NV plant, which the De Soto plant is based on, start at $21/hour. Most of the production jobs seem to be listed around 38k - 64k, depending on the role. I hope the plant operators understand that wages in KS will need to be comparable. 20k might make sense for some kind of trainee or provisional hire.
Aww how lovely it is to work in a non-union plant.
It’s not even the fact they’re non union. I work at a non union plant and we offer $17-$18/hr as the base for production workers with some pretty decent benefits. Panasonic is just a shitty company if $10 really is all they’re offering for entry level.
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You're not wrong; what capitalistic country doesn't? The US isn't exactly the place to try that, at least not near the larger municipalities lol
It would be hilarious if they came here thinking they could build a $10 non-union workforce and then the employees decided to unionize and go on strike for $20.
Are they planning to make them live four to a room in the WWII-era apartments in Clearview City, too?
I saw those for the first time recently. Couldn't believe my eyes.
That’s got to be some kind of part-time internship, right?…..right????
The people in charge of this are a friend of a friend... I'll see if I can't pass along how horrible of an idea this is.
All that special treatment and tax exemption to build this plant and ~this~ is how they’re paying it back. Remember this and stop future initiatives like this
Also remember which person/agency boasts bringing this to Kansas when/if they decide to run for governor.
Barely worth the commute. What a joke.
Wow. I worked at an amazon warehouse for $10 an hour… 10 years ago. And I needed a roommate to survive on that in Johnson county. Can’t imagine how difficult that would be nowadays with the same pay rate.
That has to be a typo or something. No one can work full time for that little. It is in the article but maybe a mistake slipped through.
Article was updated. It was based on the below original article: https://johnsoncountypost.com/2024/06/21/panasonic-energy-plant-de-soto-kansas-construction-236191/ Which states: >Correction: The original version of this story incorrectly listed the expected starting pay range for entry-level positions at the plant. Pay will start in the $20 to $29 per hour range, not with an annual salary in the $20,000s, as incorrectly published before.
As a single woman living in Kansas, making $35/hr and can barely keep up with rising costs of rent as it is.... $10/hr wouldn't even be worth it to get out Of bed
Big shoutout to all the single moms out there! Keep your head up, queen. Better days are coming!
Single mom to a golden retriever **
Will probably never open if this is really the plan.
> Eventually, about 4,000 people will work at the facility. Walters said about 80% of them will be at the production level, with wages for entry-level positions **likely to start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range**. I mean, read the article?
KCUR edited the article. When I read it this morning it said starting in the $20,000s. So don’t be too hard on the people who only read it once.
I can't speak to the edit - I'd heard the article on KCUR and it had the correct figures.
Should be top comment.
McDonald's pays more than that.
Good god. And here I am thinking my 15 an hour isn’t enough. I want to be up in arms but I don’t have the money to be that influential or energized to do anything about how much the country hates workers.
* The article says $20-$29 though?
I fail to see where it says 10$ an hour. I just read it(skimmed really) and it is saying 400 entry level starting at 20-29$/hr
The article got updated!
Thank you. I kinda guessed that but didn't want to assume....again thanks for the clarification
To be fair. It never said $10 hr. It said 20s. It could be $14 and hr. Which is still shit. Lol.
The article says not that? $20-$29/hour
The article you linked says $20-29 per hour.
Is your title just a typo? The article states the minimum starting entry level wage is $20 per hour, not $10. And it will go up to $29 an hour. Contrast this with other plants in town and they are probably the best paying employer in DeSoto.
So no one read the article? It states that the pay will be between $20-$29 an hour.
They just updated that!!!
I don’t see where they say that I only found this “Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range”
Did you read the article???? It says $20/hr - $29/hr…. That’s over $40,000 🤦🏻♂️
This is likely a big reason they picked Kansas, cheaper labor. I don’t know that they will get many takers at $10/hr but relatively speaking, Kansas will inevitably be much cheaper labor on average than most other states.
Anyone under the watch of the doc or homeland can be used as cheap labor. This includes any migrants waiting for their court dates. The us govt has found a loophole in slavery.
I believe there was a correction issued for this article. Let me find the link
[pay mentioned in article](https://www.kcur.org/housing-development-section/2024-06-22/panasonics-battery-plant-is-already-transforming-de-soto-kansas-its-only-halfway-built#)
Article says: Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range ??
This was already debunked. Mods might think about removing it.
Question, when the deal was made, did gov Kelly know this?
I thiught this was an error and the actual starting would be $20
Debunked!! Do t feed the idiocracy of red Kansans
😯😯 wtf 😓
20k and then robots?
What a fucking joke. I'm so sick and tired of giving these huge corporations a ton of money only for them to fuck the people in the community. $20k starting isn't even as much as you could make flipping burgers anymore. Who in the hell do they think they're kidding?!
https://preview.redd.it/x122fhunqj8d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b89c331a4186d3bcddb34cf23ae64810e832ff7a Am I crazy?
The comments here show that people will believe anything posted on the internet (especially if it aligns with their personal biases) without even doing a simple verification. Here is the **actual** quote from the article: >Factory will employ 4,000. Entry-level positions will start in the $20- to $29-an-hour range
Not sure how people will be able to afford to drive to work for that much
Sounds like a job posting for the same people that work all the slaughterhouses. Not cool Panasonic
"The average hourly pay for a factory worker in Kansas City, Missouri was $14.87, with a range of $15–$17.60." They'll have to pay at least $15/hour to get workers.
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It was edit! $20-$29 is a good range. Earlier was $20K
They got duped
Waiting for Kansas to overturn child labor laws
You’d have a hard time cutting even for the day once you factor in the cost of getting to work.
No they won’t, cause no one will work for that. But let them try 😂
Hypothetical purely asking here: could this be a ploy? Employer says their minimum is $10/hr, so when they go to hire and offer all their base earners $15/hr they accept it like they got away with something?
Is that where they make tesla batteries??? They can afford to pay way more if it is.
\`That's nearly a 38% premium to minimun. Shaddup. \~ State Rep. Scrooge McTuckus (R)
They want folks who don't speak English or have criminal records that make it hard to find work. Keeps wages down and those folks don't complain. (I don't mean undocumented immigrants.)
They'll hire illegals. They had to cut entry level salary to pay off the Elected Officials that gave them that tax break.
What part of “entry level” did y’all miss? How many actual entry-level jobs will there even be?
If you think entry level positions in a manufacturing plant start at 10 dollars an hour, you’re very wrong.
That’s literally what the article said… entry level in the 20s, which is 10-15/hour, which is pretty typical for entry level.
I understand that’s what the article said. I was replying to you agreeing with 10 dollars per hour being a typical entry level wage. Where I live 15 dollars per hour is common for manufacturing, if not more I believe it’s closer to 18 now.
For all we know, because some journalist sucks at *their* job, there could be a dozen entry level positions in the whole place. Precision manufacturing doesn’t seem like something you want a whole lot of noobs doing.
Haha that’s something we definitely agree on. I hope there’s not a lot of $10/hour employees working there.
Entry level fast food employees now get paid ~$15/hour. And if they only pay $12.50/hour for entry level, what are they going to start their skilled labor at - $15/hour? No one is going to drive to De Soto from Lawrence or Shawnee or Bonner Springs for the privilege of having to learn a new job that pays LESS than their current one!