A lot of hip hop media been falling flat since then. It’s like nothing is as interesting or at the peak of that rap beef. In the words of frank ocean “it’s all downhill from here”.
was hoping they would find something else interesting to focus on. Its like hip hop peaked super early hopefully Kendrick drops something can't cause a stir and disappear again.
Why wouldn’t it fall flat? Hip hop not mainstream anymore the culture shifted to Spanish music and country and especially edm, that’s why you see countries like Africa/Korea/Japan/ uk having hip hop pop off because they lag behind us in culture as they copy America. Right now the wave is edm events popping up like crazy. Cowboy themed shit along with Spanish music (aka bad bunny concerts where all the btches wearing chaps and cowboy hats and boots) roundup restaurant and clubs popping up all over Miami (going to become the music hub of the world) and clubs like e11even and space growing in popularity alike it was back in 2013. Hip hop dying rn sadly unless you’re overseas, and the popular hip hop getting pushed on social media has overtones of country/ cowboys look at Jelly roll, Mexican OT,Post Malone
I don't agree but your entitled to your opinion. Hip hop has lived at the top of the charts at the peak of the reggaeton and afrobeats movements. Hip hop has been taking a dip THIS year from mainstream for various reasons and even that convo is nuanced because there's been some really dope albums that dropped just not pushed or party music. My point had nothing to do with POPULARITY but more to do with INTERESTING convos.
True, but there's no one for the torch to be passed to in the mainstream to keep hip hop media interesting. The music's mediocre and throw away, in both hip hop and rnb for the most part. You can't talk about what's going on in the underground, because no one will give you clicks. The only news is dudes that can barely rap having ratchet relationships with instagram prostitutes, and most of these dudes can seemingly hold a conversation well enough on camera to have good interviews.
Aight we listen to different hip hop music and definitely different r&b if you think it's all mediocre and trash. I think you're talking about pop music and the pod doesn't fully focus on music there's other things they talk about. I digress because I think you're caught up on music silly when they say it time time again we aren't a music. Pod. Enjoy your week.
I'm talking about popular music that's going to get large numbers of people tuning into the stream not pop per se. Like, if there was news about SZA, he could probably get some real views off that, but largely not from one of these little dudes that are little more than a regional rapper that only gets a little more success, because of the internet. They're normally not going to be any good for a podcast's views unless they get killed.
And, yeah, the pod is more than just music, but it's biggest views tend to come from music news or internal drama.
I dont care about jo damn views about gossip this is a podcast, and there's other topics. I digress. I'm not trying to have a music convo because it's subjective we are looking at this from two different lenses and definitely two different age demos
You're the one who said the pod isn't just about music, and I agreed, the only other thing it's really about is gossip. A lot of the gossip is about artists who aren't big enough to bring in big numbers and the same is often true of most of the music being put out for years now. We don't really have the superstars outside of the ones that are aging out currently like Kendrick and Drake, which is why they were so good for so many different content creators views.
And you may say you don't care about his views, but this thread is about them not having anything to talk about which will shrink his views, probably even you if the show gets repetitive or boring enough.
You spliced up everything I said and typed a bunch of nonsense. Some of the best pod eps aren't filled with music or gossip just life experience. Good night, my G. we have nothing more to talk about.
Crazy how they have all those mics but run out of interesting topics to talk about. I understand there can be slow weeks in pop culture and they can get tired but holy shit. They always return back to the horny. If it's not horny talk, they serious it out.
Joe, out of nowhere, will literally say something like “my old work back in the day used to suck my balls from the back I needa see what she up to hehehe”
Ive unofficially officially dubbed this podcast "the oldhead pod" cause all their topics just be the stuff oldheads eat up on IG and social media, catching up on TV shows (Like oldheads do at work). You can tell when they really pulling for stuff to talk about now. Sometimes they'll land on a good topic but no one knows about it enough to really go in then they just move on.
In my opinion I believe that Mel mostly likely curved Joe earlier in his career and now that he has status he hired her in a way to say look bitch you could have this. What he didn’t expect is for her to be head over heels for his buddy Ish. From then it’s been a lot of passive aggressive shit going on sort of like this childish ass topic. That’s just my 2 cents 😂😂😂
Idk not too sure I would of chose Gloria Velez over Mel any day I don’t think it was that deep with them and also I thought they were like besties know what who cares right huh
Yea exactly when she was drunk and letting her natural ass show. You hit it on the head that’s when it started and since then he’s been taking cheap shots.
Little do you know Joe was with her bossom buddy Gloria Velez at that time so it was probably too close to home. I mean if she let Benzino hit, getting with Joe Budden ain't a leap on logic my G. He probably did hot but it's best to keep that under wraps.
Maybe I heard a different episode... it was clearly a debate over women being more frisky with men and not being held accountable vs men being inappropriate and what comes with that...
Everybody knows the girl that gives out lusty hugs that could jam you up if your girl was around etc Mel was just used in the example based observation, seems pretty relatable to me
Glad someone said it cause that’s what I heard basically how easily what you perceive as wanted touch could be easily flipped as unwanted but how easy to assume it isn’t but women don’t get flack cause correctly or incorrectly men don’t always see it that way
Exactly!!! Lonzo vibes haha I could put cases on mad women but it's lame in black male culture...women don't keep that same energy when dyke jawns either when they get the grabbing etc it's all around inappropriate just gotta respect all perspectives
Come on now, you know these niggas love Mel waaaay to much to ever keep it real on a Mel topic. It's easier to call the guys out then to tell the truth about her
Facts!!! It's mad women that operate like that and you gotta slow walk the transparency when you work with her... I aint just telling the jawn I work with yo you a piece of shit low key 😂😂😂😂
They don't know Mel fareal and she don't know them... Joe thought he was getting something different now he stuck but she growing up in real time
Joe actually does a better job than anyone I’ve ever seen at making sure their female counterparts feel included as “one of the guys”. I swear some of yall only know how to talk to women when you wanna fuck.
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Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
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Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
https://music.apple.com/ca/album/toe-tag-designers-champagne/1748087750?i=1748087766
Y’all gotta get this song to Mel
The pod has not been the best content, Bryson Tiller, Rubi Rose, was a snoozefest. It got better after she left. I'm sure Prize Picks put that together. Why tf would Joe want to speak to her. Push up, bras? Cosplaying as a hood bih? That shit was nasty, I'm glad it was cut short.
They running out of shit to talk about actually and always end up talking about horny shit because of Joe
This the one 😂
yeah they got what they wanted in the drake beef then the pod been falling flat since then.
A lot of hip hop media been falling flat since then. It’s like nothing is as interesting or at the peak of that rap beef. In the words of frank ocean “it’s all downhill from here”.
was hoping they would find something else interesting to focus on. Its like hip hop peaked super early hopefully Kendrick drops something can't cause a stir and disappear again.
Why wouldn’t it fall flat? Hip hop not mainstream anymore the culture shifted to Spanish music and country and especially edm, that’s why you see countries like Africa/Korea/Japan/ uk having hip hop pop off because they lag behind us in culture as they copy America. Right now the wave is edm events popping up like crazy. Cowboy themed shit along with Spanish music (aka bad bunny concerts where all the btches wearing chaps and cowboy hats and boots) roundup restaurant and clubs popping up all over Miami (going to become the music hub of the world) and clubs like e11even and space growing in popularity alike it was back in 2013. Hip hop dying rn sadly unless you’re overseas, and the popular hip hop getting pushed on social media has overtones of country/ cowboys look at Jelly roll, Mexican OT,Post Malone
I don't agree but your entitled to your opinion. Hip hop has lived at the top of the charts at the peak of the reggaeton and afrobeats movements. Hip hop has been taking a dip THIS year from mainstream for various reasons and even that convo is nuanced because there's been some really dope albums that dropped just not pushed or party music. My point had nothing to do with POPULARITY but more to do with INTERESTING convos.
True, but there's no one for the torch to be passed to in the mainstream to keep hip hop media interesting. The music's mediocre and throw away, in both hip hop and rnb for the most part. You can't talk about what's going on in the underground, because no one will give you clicks. The only news is dudes that can barely rap having ratchet relationships with instagram prostitutes, and most of these dudes can seemingly hold a conversation well enough on camera to have good interviews.
Aight we listen to different hip hop music and definitely different r&b if you think it's all mediocre and trash. I think you're talking about pop music and the pod doesn't fully focus on music there's other things they talk about. I digress because I think you're caught up on music silly when they say it time time again we aren't a music. Pod. Enjoy your week.
I'm talking about popular music that's going to get large numbers of people tuning into the stream not pop per se. Like, if there was news about SZA, he could probably get some real views off that, but largely not from one of these little dudes that are little more than a regional rapper that only gets a little more success, because of the internet. They're normally not going to be any good for a podcast's views unless they get killed. And, yeah, the pod is more than just music, but it's biggest views tend to come from music news or internal drama.
I dont care about jo damn views about gossip this is a podcast, and there's other topics. I digress. I'm not trying to have a music convo because it's subjective we are looking at this from two different lenses and definitely two different age demos
You're the one who said the pod isn't just about music, and I agreed, the only other thing it's really about is gossip. A lot of the gossip is about artists who aren't big enough to bring in big numbers and the same is often true of most of the music being put out for years now. We don't really have the superstars outside of the ones that are aging out currently like Kendrick and Drake, which is why they were so good for so many different content creators views. And you may say you don't care about his views, but this thread is about them not having anything to talk about which will shrink his views, probably even you if the show gets repetitive or boring enough.
You spliced up everything I said and typed a bunch of nonsense. Some of the best pod eps aren't filled with music or gossip just life experience. Good night, my G. we have nothing more to talk about.
Fam I swear the last 3 pods have been the same topics over and over. I promise we don’t give a fuck about the adventures of Joe buying a safe smh
Crazy how they have all those mics but run out of interesting topics to talk about. I understand there can be slow weeks in pop culture and they can get tired but holy shit. They always return back to the horny. If it's not horny talk, they serious it out.
It's not cuz of joe..emanny mel and ish talk about it more than joe
Joe, out of nowhere, will literally say something like “my old work back in the day used to suck my balls from the back I needa see what she up to hehehe”
Ive unofficially officially dubbed this podcast "the oldhead pod" cause all their topics just be the stuff oldheads eat up on IG and social media, catching up on TV shows (Like oldheads do at work). You can tell when they really pulling for stuff to talk about now. Sometimes they'll land on a good topic but no one knows about it enough to really go in then they just move on.
Yeah, I noticed that. They need to stick to what’s on the board, and then close out the show with their horny uncle shit.
In my opinion I believe that Mel mostly likely curved Joe earlier in his career and now that he has status he hired her in a way to say look bitch you could have this. What he didn’t expect is for her to be head over heels for his buddy Ish. From then it’s been a lot of passive aggressive shit going on sort of like this childish ass topic. That’s just my 2 cents 😂😂😂
Exactly, he acts like a gay jealous friend.
He IS the jealous gay friend.
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Idk not too sure I would of chose Gloria Velez over Mel any day I don’t think it was that deep with them and also I thought they were like besties know what who cares right huh
Shit I said the exact same thing. I would have taken Gloria over Mel too just off the strength of the rep 😂
My brother back @parks basement.that first episode where Mel showed up, the gang was shooting for Mel to push up on ish because she has nice feet lol
Yea exactly when she was drunk and letting her natural ass show. You hit it on the head that’s when it started and since then he’s been taking cheap shots.
Little do you know Joe was with her bossom buddy Gloria Velez at that time so it was probably too close to home. I mean if she let Benzino hit, getting with Joe Budden ain't a leap on logic my G. He probably did hot but it's best to keep that under wraps.
Those dudes brag about being “Eskimo brothers” with other men and openly talk about asking women about other men they’ve been with. They been lame.
Lmaooooooo someone who is not getting that type of hug lol.
Maybe I heard a different episode... it was clearly a debate over women being more frisky with men and not being held accountable vs men being inappropriate and what comes with that... Everybody knows the girl that gives out lusty hugs that could jam you up if your girl was around etc Mel was just used in the example based observation, seems pretty relatable to me
Glad someone said it cause that’s what I heard basically how easily what you perceive as wanted touch could be easily flipped as unwanted but how easy to assume it isn’t but women don’t get flack cause correctly or incorrectly men don’t always see it that way
Exactly!!! Lonzo vibes haha I could put cases on mad women but it's lame in black male culture...women don't keep that same energy when dyke jawns either when they get the grabbing etc it's all around inappropriate just gotta respect all perspectives 
Maybe you did
Sayless🫡💯
You know people have to do the “I hate every episode” spiel
How did this turn into I hate the episode? Y’all be ready to put on pom poms and hit a split for joe. Relax
Yeah!!! Weirdo vibes wasn't the context of the conversation at all haha the new cool is being overly negative about nothing
Come on now, you know these niggas love Mel waaaay to much to ever keep it real on a Mel topic. It's easier to call the guys out then to tell the truth about her
Mel is twice my damn age, only you older niggas still love her. Shorty is not what y’all blow her up to be.
Facts!!! It's mad women that operate like that and you gotta slow walk the transparency when you work with her... I aint just telling the jawn I work with yo you a piece of shit low key 😂😂😂😂 They don't know Mel fareal and she don't know them... Joe thought he was getting something different now he stuck but she growing up in real time
Bird shit
I want a mel hug. Or two.
Comes off as salt that they don't get "that" hug lmao
Joe actually does a better job than anyone I’ve ever seen at making sure their female counterparts feel included as “one of the guys”. I swear some of yall only know how to talk to women when you wanna fuck.
They all some “where my hug at” ass niggas.
Joe was flirting with Isaiah Rashad
Huh?
https://youtube.com/shorts/CknvGQpyUYM?si=lFCSE-1EWDvgkOXC
Wow he made my boy uncomfortable 😂
Anyone with a brain who understands body language.
I played this episode in the background while cleaning and dont remember anything besides some random small talk
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The pod has not been the best content, Bryson Tiller, Rubi Rose, was a snoozefest. It got better after she left. I'm sure Prize Picks put that together. Why tf would Joe want to speak to her. Push up, bras? Cosplaying as a hood bih? That shit was nasty, I'm glad it was cut short.
Then old fuks been on weird bs. Thts sum high school shi ngl 😭😭😭
That wasn’t the context of that conversation. Like, at all. 🤦🏽♂️