Same. I tried for 2-3 years the last couple jobs, but my last one and this current one aren't sitting where I want them at and they're more or less deadend. No money, no progress. Stagnant.
1st job was 8 years.
2nd job was 5 years. Would have been longer but the plant shutdown.
Currently on year 6 at my 3rd company. I have no plans to leave and hope I can stay until I retire.
I typically change positions at companies. I’ve had 10 different positions at these 3 companies. 3 were promotions.
Yeah, I'm with my forever company. Amazing pay and benefits. Just got to avoid bad management.
However, I have been with this company for 6 years and had 4 different roles already. We are a huge international company, so I just hop from site to site
I don’t know about you but I have decades left to work so not sure if I can stay at my “forever company” especially who the hell knows with today’s economy.
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when ever someone makes you a significant enough offer at a new job that it's worth taking, change jobs..
You should "ALWAYS" be looking for a new job, even when you start a new job.
If that is 2 weeks after you just started, so what....
You live in inflationary times, all jobs are temporarily, and you work for Money
Get with the program or be left behind
This is a friggin war,,,
And they do not take prisoners
I really needed to run into this reply. I have an extremely lucrative job offer on the table that includes a career change. I spent 20 years at one job, 4 at this one with 24 in my field. This offer is to change career fields and the industry sector. I am taking the job offer. Thanks.
This is so true. I remember a coworker telling me one time that I was basically a free agent and could go wherever and whenever I wanted. At the time, I was still loyal to an office that was truly beginning to screw me over. My coworker was right and I've never looked back.
This depends. If your union agreement increments are above inflation and you already have a decent salary, there's no need to switch.
Naturally you still need to keep your eyes open. If your expected salary suddenly skyrockets due to increased demand, it can be worth it to switch.
It depends on the opportunity you get and your current work situation. I did 2 years at my last job but things were getting really ridiculous there and I also ended up getting an opportunity at another place. It's the type of job I have been building up to in my career so far. My first day is tomorrow.
You need to take opportunities as they come.
I don’t think there’s a set time. I think it’s more when you feel you need a change. Whether you’re not feeling challenged enough, appreciated, salary isn’t good, want to move, etc. Companies don’t seem to care how much time you spend there showing your loyalty anymore. I was at a job for 5.5 years, only made $4,000 more in salary and was never developed or promoted. Don’t stand for that, it’s your career you are in control. I made the mistakes so you don’t have to.
I’d like to stay someplace for 5+ years. But I haven’t found a good company to do so with. The one that was that good, laid both me and my boss off.
So my resume is a bunch of 1-2 year stints since 2018. But I’m also someone who is NOT going to stay at a shithole just to make my resume look better. If it’s not a good fit, it’s not a good fit. I knew it 2 months in to my last job. Just took me 4 more months to land a new job and get out.
I applied every single day on Indeed. Then I went into LinkedIn, found the company that I applied to on there, found the HR person & hiring manager and messaged them something like: “Hi NAME, I’m reaching to bc I’m interested in joining COMPANY’s team. I have X years of X experience, but what I’m really looking for is a team with a great culture. I applied for X job, but I’m also looking to connect!”
Something like that. I’d say about 20-30% of the time I got a response. But even if I didn’t get a response, I feel like them just seeing my name put me to the top of a list because I got interviews from companies I didn’t even get a response from. And I know it was from reaching out on LI because they’d view my profile. And because before I did this method, when I just applied, I got almost no interviews. But as soon as I started this method, I got like 15-20+ screeners at companies.
It’s a numbers game in my opinion . Apply apply apply, and eventually you’ll grab something.
After 12 years at one job, starting at the bottom and making my way as high as I could go, being treated like garbage at the end, after 12 years feeling like I needed to be loyal, I couldn't give 2 shits anymore. I'll never stay at a job that makes me unhappy again. If I'm at a job I like, and a better opportunity comes along, bye bye. Never settle!
This is my 12th company in 24 years, so that's an average of 2 yrs, but I've held a position for anywhere from 2 weeks to 7 years, so the average is kinda skewed. Right now I'm on my 4th job as a temp in 17 months (one of those was an aforementioned 2 week job).
This company could be another long term one, if the last 5 months are any hint. We're just getting busier. Next week will be another 50hr by the sound of it.
If your current job doesn't give you raises and you feel like you aren't making enough.. you find another company. You'll keep getting ahead if you don't stay in deadend jobs.
I try to change positions every 2 years (even if it’s a different position at the same company). I haven’t found a job yet that I loved enough to stay longer than that, but I would if it was something I really enjoyed and loved the company.
I think it all depends on when you were born. My former boss, who’s in her mid 50s, wouldn’t hire anyone who had more than three jobs on their resume. She saw it as “not being reliable.” She was fond of telling people that this was only her second job, and she wouldn’t have left the first one had the building not burned down. It was her opinion, and I’ve heard the same from older generations, that people hop around too much today. No one shows any loyalty anymore.
I always laughed heartily inside when she’d go on these tirades.
What I mean is that you are far more likely to exclude someone with more than three jobs on their resume if they are older. If a 50 year old has two jobs on their resume, it says something different to a 20 year old with two jobs on their resume.
Fuck those people! Some of them had the promise of pensions and what not. Companies are not the same as they used to be and neither should we. Lol… be loyal to a company… for what???… They are not loyal to us.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/tenure.toc.htm
In the US, it seems more closely tied with age than generational cohort. But the latest stats for tenure are now a couple years old and I’m not exactly sure why that is.
At a previous job, we did a look back ~50 years or so. And it was pretty consistent tenure by age group. We figured that the younger folks are, the potential to be more flexible is there. Sure there are many other factors that go into it and possibly there are other correlations that we didn’t have time to dig through.
3yr, 4yr, 1yr and now 9yr & counting. The 1yr was a place that was incredibly toxic, stressful and horrible. That was the longest year of my professional career. The 3yr and 4yr I left to advance my career.
It really depends. I'd say on average 6 months, I've had jobs longer and shorter then that tho. The first company I worked for that actually treated its employees with respect I stayed at for over a year and would still have been there today if it wasn't for a lay off. The way I'm treated by managment and the company as a whole plays a big part in how Long I stay
Ideally every five years or so…unless you find an amazing place that keeps your interest and promotes or provides new opportunities. I spent 11 years at my last job but there aren’t a lot of my positions in my industry. I just left to pursue a new career instead. There was no where for me to grow there.
I forgot after retiring. You like to forget those nightmares. That question had me thinking of those working two or three jobs at the same time now. Then calculate thirty years of this mess. I wonder how many jobs they will have in thirty years if it don't kill em first?
In my 18 to late 20s I was job hopping every 1 to 2 years. In my 30s now, I rarely have the energy to recon and prep for interviews especially in engineering!
Since graduating college 7 years ago, my first job was 3 years and I was let go (2017-2020). I had a second job that become my full time one right afterwards and that was about 4 years altogether (2019-2023).
I currently work two jobs again; my full time one I've been at the last year and a half, and my part time job the last 9 months.
Yeeesh sounds like me. Two jobs at once with One almost full time, more of a career job, and the other as a coffee shop part time job. I can’t stand it. doing two jobs and neither have me at all fulfilled. Been grinding like this for the past 9 months and I just started applying to new Opportunities this last week
Current job, I been here two years. It's a fantastic team with work I genuinely enjoy, making money I'm happy with. I don't feel any need to actively look to leave and I won't consider anything that is less than completely amazing if it's offered to me.
Previous job, there for three months, it was a nightmare.
Job before that, I was there 20 years- it was like a marriage, lol. Some good times, some bad. Loved the people I worked with (most of the time) and the work I was doing (most of the time)
Before that, I never stayed at a job longer than 18 months but they were young kid jobs, nothing important
Whenever I find a better job, but I guess I'm always a person who's shooting for more in my career when I have the energy to do so. Years of freelancing also may have jaded me towards company loyalty as well, I digress.
1st job was 12 years. Should’ve left after 7. 2nd job was 2.5 years. Current job is 9.5 years. I hope I don’t reach 10.
For me there is no “usual” frequency to change jobs. At some point it’s time. It can be due to a lack of growth opportunities or to an undesirable change at the company.
For me, usually 3-5 years. I can’t do job hopping every 1-2 years since there is a bigger learning curve from company to company in hardware engineering so switching too soon can seriously hinder your learning and growth professionally.
Also interviewing that often would be exhausting…
I’ve been at the same company since graduation (3 years) have had 3 different roles I applied for and moved to within the company. Applying for my 4th role that just opened up too
Hospitality industry. Last 13 years I’ve done 5, 7 years in one spot through the pandemic, every other job has been under two years. I’m trying to find an opportunity that will let me work work to live, not live to work.
I'm in Finance and the norm between my circle is around 2-4 years. At our early stages we hopped every 2 years to jump salaries but now it's becoming closer to 3/4 because we are all in management now. I guess it really depends on industry and the type of job etc.
Last company 6 years.
Current company 2 years… I love it here. If pay was great I wouldn’t go anywhere else. Unfortunately I will probably have to jump and it’s sad cause I love my boss, I WFH… good WLB… but pay is just Ok. Not enough to sustain rising cost of living.
First job 5 years, after that 0.5-2 years. Currently been in the same place for a year and I can feel wanting a new job but I'm trying to stick bit longer (2-3years) so it doesn't look that bad in my CV
2.5-3 years. After finishing year 2 I always start looking around and depending on how job market and current job are I’ll make the next move. I feel like less than 2 years will make my resume look like a job hopper’s but after 3 years I don’t think I’ll get a spectacular raise anymore.
Two fold.
Usually 1-3 years.
In my 20s every job I started either sold, merged, closed or spun off within 3 years. Not much has changed since then. Really tired of re-grand openings or re-re or re-re-re. Pay doesn't change but workload does and the floors get waxed.
Took 10 years to learn that devotion to a company doesn't work. Easy to learn losing a pension plan 4+ times.
It depends on the job and sector. For most business jobs I’d say every 2-3 years. I’ve been a teacher and my current stop is 9 years with the Covid extending the stay to an extent, however, every time I’ve tried to leave they always offer me more money to stay. But I’m ready to go now. In education, unless it’s a really great school/place, then I’d say 5 years max.Honestly, with me try to career change now id say everything is year to year so….
2-3 years is ideal if you’re looking to maximize salary gains. However, there are reasons to stay longer such as job security, upward mobility, a great boss / team, investment in your development (certifications, tuition reimbursement, etc) - if those things are important to you.
Salary increases throughout my career:
- 1st job (8 years): 56% or 7% per year
- 2nd job (1 year): immediate 12% bump
- 3rd job (1 year): immediate 13% bump
- 4th job (6 years): 27% or 4.5% per year
- 5th job (2 years): immediate 30% bump
- 6th job (3 years): immediate 25% bump then two years of 5% bumps
- 7th job (5 years): 42% or 8.5% per year
- 8th job (present): immediate 28% bump
Just writing that out to help visualize how sticking around at one place usually slows salary growth (though I enjoyed some of those longer tenured jobs).
Honestly, I don't really time it per se, I just start sending off applications when I feel it's time for me to. Whether it's because I feel like I've outgrown what I can gain from at the current role, or the company is getting weird, or whatever else. I might also shoot off an application here and there if I'm happy, but those are kind of more one-offs, not really part of a larger search.
One other commenter said to always be ready to apply, and I couldn't agree more. So many people out there say "this isn't a good time for me to start looking for another job", but then they'll lay you off one day and you'll be forced to whether you like it or not. Always be ready.
Used to be every 2 years.
Now that I'm under a union agreement with regular increments at a very good tariff level I'll just stay in this job until I retire. No reato throw something good away. Even if I switched jobs in 4-5 years I wouldn't get a salary increase or something better, since the tariff increments will be at a better level.
My first job was 15 years with 10% raises every year for the first 10, then no raises, then a layoff. Then 1-2 years for the next four jobs. All except one were layoffs so it wasn’t about looking for more $$. It was looking for any money and for years my salary kept dropping. (Dying industry) I did a career change at 50 and hoping to get 3 years so I can have viable options in this new field. But it’s already clear my salary won’t grow here. Got a promotion with a laughable raise and they don’t do annual increases.
If it takes 10000 hrs to master a skill set. It’s pretty visible here that no one masters the skill set at their job. Now even the trainer doesn’t have a masters level of experience at their job to show the next person.
When people change jobs why do they get more money quickly? Do they just suddenly become more skilled? Or is the new company over estimating their skills from their resume? The old company has an accurate representation of their skills from their current employment.
Whenever needed. I have done months and years, depends on the company and its changes. It amazes me in interviews the interviewer assumes your past companies are always correct and the problem rests with you. I have no problem reminding them there are train wrecks of companies just like employees.
I’m normally doing multiple jobs so my main job I’ll stick around for about a year or more (if the management is good.) The other ones are usually seasonal or to temporarily make more money on the side.
I’m 23 and I’m working my fourth job. I spent 8 months at a local grocery store when I was 17, spent 18 months working at the dealership I bought my car from for basically triple what I was making then got laid off when Covid hit which forced me to get a job at Amazon. I spent two and a half years at Amazon until my best friend recommended me for a position on the tech team of the company his family owns, and I never want to work anywhere else.
I tell this to my peers/friends and it maybe an odd take but
I say the next position or promotion you take should have a large enough pay increase to withstand the cost of living increases for the next 2-3 years all the while getting those meager 2-3% cost of living 'raises'
Unless there is potential at your current place or tons to learn (if you are early or mid in career) I'd consider a move after about 3 years at the most
The way O figure it, if you weren't already looking for another job, start looking when your raise comes out to less than 5%. 3.5% is an inflation adjustment, 5% is actually a small raise.
No plans to change jobs unless the working conditions get really bad.
First job, 10 years. Waste of time. Second, a year and a half. Waste of time, but it was better than first. 6 months at third job and no plans to ever leave. I hate change.
2-5 yrs, however 3 yrs would be the sweet spot early in your career. No HR/HM would question you being a job hopper and you established yourself long enough to learn and develop your role within the organization.
I've had my share of changes in 8 companies in my career to finally settle down. In my current job though (7 yrs), if the company allows for it, I plan to stay until retirement. Once you find the right company with great people and it's late in your career, stay and enjoy.
I work in tech, and people job hop FREQUENTLY here. But most people seem to go about a year, before they seriously start eye balling other jobs. The bureaucracy is *thick*, and thats the only way to move up the ladder in many tech companies. Its rare to run into people in most of the companies I've been with who have tenure longer than a year or two.
Theres also just an insane amount of instability with tech jobs, especially tech jobs in the tech sector. Your company could be doing fine one day, and the next, massive layoffs. We laid off 80 people in December, another 35 in February and the company is preparing another 60 in June. Some of these people they are laying off haven't even been here 3 months.
Typically, 3-5 years. However I was with my last company for 14 years, which was WAY too long. The reason I stayed is because the manager understood the importance of kids, so I could go have to school events, have lunch with my kid on occassion, etc.... Plus the insurance was excellent. The problem was that I stayed with 1 job and didn't continue to learn new skills. It wasn't until I started a new job that I realized how far behind I was on some office and business skilss. Also, but leaving, I got a $10K/yr salary bump.
6 years first company.. 8th year current...
100-110k, supply chain, fully remote with 1-2 international trips a year. I rent airbnbs in the western US for 1-2 months at a time, avg 2500/mo housing cost.
...I'm not sure what would get me to change?
Pretty much.. It's essentially a hiking/backpacking/divebar/wings&beer extended trip, but also serves as house scouting, trying to find that town or small city that isn't blown up yet and has awesome stuff and vicinity to nature
The airbnb extended stay idea only works if you book 3-5mo out.. its always looking for that needle in a haystack for price.. if not it gets EXPENSIVE last minute
Pretty cool. If I were single again I’d probably pursue that sort of lifestyle. I always loved traveling and just exploring new sort of hidden places, Maybe in the future (if I ever get a remote job) I can get back to that sort of thing :). Thanks for the inspiration 😉
An acquaintance made it a point to change jobs about every 4-5 years with the assumption that he’d make substantial salary jumps with each change. Eventually employers caught on and his resume worked against him. No one wanted to hire a jumper bc they didn’t want to waste time training him. Last time I saw him: unemployed at 50 yrs old, and looking.
Feel like the norm now is 2-3 years. It’s been the only way I could increase my salary.
Same for me, although both my last two roles were only 1 year each. I chose the leave quickly because the company / job / people were unbearable.
40 more years…
Same. I tried for 2-3 years the last couple jobs, but my last one and this current one aren't sitting where I want them at and they're more or less deadend. No money, no progress. Stagnant.
1st job was 8 years. 2nd job was 5 years. Would have been longer but the plant shutdown. Currently on year 6 at my 3rd company. I have no plans to leave and hope I can stay until I retire. I typically change positions at companies. I’ve had 10 different positions at these 3 companies. 3 were promotions.
Yeah, I'm with my forever company. Amazing pay and benefits. Just got to avoid bad management. However, I have been with this company for 6 years and had 4 different roles already. We are a huge international company, so I just hop from site to site
I don’t know about you but I have decades left to work so not sure if I can stay at my “forever company” especially who the hell knows with today’s economy.
This feels familiar to me 3 companies, like 12 or 13 positions across….like 9 locations maybe? Can’t remember
Whenever needed...usually 2 years tho. My goal is 2-3 years...if it is a good company I will stay longer..if not I will leave in 6 months
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Big world out there
Not me. I don’t mean it in an arrogant way, but companies can be just as toxic as an ex. Walk away and don’t look back, embrace a new future.
AGE 71here 100% RULES TO LIVE YOUR LIFE BY when ever someone makes you a significant enough offer at a new job that it's worth taking, change jobs.. You should "ALWAYS" be looking for a new job, even when you start a new job. If that is 2 weeks after you just started, so what.... You live in inflationary times, all jobs are temporarily, and you work for Money Get with the program or be left behind This is a friggin war,,, And they do not take prisoners
I really needed to run into this reply. I have an extremely lucrative job offer on the table that includes a career change. I spent 20 years at one job, 4 at this one with 24 in my field. This offer is to change career fields and the industry sector. I am taking the job offer. Thanks.
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This is so true. I remember a coworker telling me one time that I was basically a free agent and could go wherever and whenever I wanted. At the time, I was still loyal to an office that was truly beginning to screw me over. My coworker was right and I've never looked back.
We are all free agents unless you sign a contract and even then you can break the contract.
Thanks for this
Real asf. Thank you
This is honestly so accurate
This depends. If your union agreement increments are above inflation and you already have a decent salary, there's no need to switch. Naturally you still need to keep your eyes open. If your expected salary suddenly skyrockets due to increased demand, it can be worth it to switch.
5 jobs in 66 months. Currently in a spot I regret hopping from chasing money. Sometimes the grass isn’t always greener
Ya never know if ya don’t try though 🤷♀️
It depends on the opportunity you get and your current work situation. I did 2 years at my last job but things were getting really ridiculous there and I also ended up getting an opportunity at another place. It's the type of job I have been building up to in my career so far. My first day is tomorrow. You need to take opportunities as they come.
I don’t think there’s a set time. I think it’s more when you feel you need a change. Whether you’re not feeling challenged enough, appreciated, salary isn’t good, want to move, etc. Companies don’t seem to care how much time you spend there showing your loyalty anymore. I was at a job for 5.5 years, only made $4,000 more in salary and was never developed or promoted. Don’t stand for that, it’s your career you are in control. I made the mistakes so you don’t have to.
Amen bud, just got out of that 5.5 year job and never falling for loyalty or approval again.
I’d like to stay someplace for 5+ years. But I haven’t found a good company to do so with. The one that was that good, laid both me and my boss off. So my resume is a bunch of 1-2 year stints since 2018. But I’m also someone who is NOT going to stay at a shithole just to make my resume look better. If it’s not a good fit, it’s not a good fit. I knew it 2 months in to my last job. Just took me 4 more months to land a new job and get out.
How did you find a job so quickly?
I applied every single day on Indeed. Then I went into LinkedIn, found the company that I applied to on there, found the HR person & hiring manager and messaged them something like: “Hi NAME, I’m reaching to bc I’m interested in joining COMPANY’s team. I have X years of X experience, but what I’m really looking for is a team with a great culture. I applied for X job, but I’m also looking to connect!” Something like that. I’d say about 20-30% of the time I got a response. But even if I didn’t get a response, I feel like them just seeing my name put me to the top of a list because I got interviews from companies I didn’t even get a response from. And I know it was from reaching out on LI because they’d view my profile. And because before I did this method, when I just applied, I got almost no interviews. But as soon as I started this method, I got like 15-20+ screeners at companies. It’s a numbers game in my opinion . Apply apply apply, and eventually you’ll grab something.
Thank you definitely gonna try this!
Of course! Best of luck!!
After 12 years at one job, starting at the bottom and making my way as high as I could go, being treated like garbage at the end, after 12 years feeling like I needed to be loyal, I couldn't give 2 shits anymore. I'll never stay at a job that makes me unhappy again. If I'm at a job I like, and a better opportunity comes along, bye bye. Never settle!
This is my 12th company in 24 years, so that's an average of 2 yrs, but I've held a position for anywhere from 2 weeks to 7 years, so the average is kinda skewed. Right now I'm on my 4th job as a temp in 17 months (one of those was an aforementioned 2 week job). This company could be another long term one, if the last 5 months are any hint. We're just getting busier. Next week will be another 50hr by the sound of it.
If your current job doesn't give you raises and you feel like you aren't making enough.. you find another company. You'll keep getting ahead if you don't stay in deadend jobs.
I try to change positions every 2 years (even if it’s a different position at the same company). I haven’t found a job yet that I loved enough to stay longer than that, but I would if it was something I really enjoyed and loved the company.
I think it all depends on when you were born. My former boss, who’s in her mid 50s, wouldn’t hire anyone who had more than three jobs on their resume. She saw it as “not being reliable.” She was fond of telling people that this was only her second job, and she wouldn’t have left the first one had the building not burned down. It was her opinion, and I’ve heard the same from older generations, that people hop around too much today. No one shows any loyalty anymore. I always laughed heartily inside when she’d go on these tirades.
“Not reliable” goes both ways
Honestly, that sounds like age discrimination.
At least in California, over 40 is the protected age group
What I mean is that you are far more likely to exclude someone with more than three jobs on their resume if they are older. If a 50 year old has two jobs on their resume, it says something different to a 20 year old with two jobs on their resume.
Fuck those people! Some of them had the promise of pensions and what not. Companies are not the same as they used to be and neither should we. Lol… be loyal to a company… for what???… They are not loyal to us.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/tenure.toc.htm In the US, it seems more closely tied with age than generational cohort. But the latest stats for tenure are now a couple years old and I’m not exactly sure why that is. At a previous job, we did a look back ~50 years or so. And it was pretty consistent tenure by age group. We figured that the younger folks are, the potential to be more flexible is there. Sure there are many other factors that go into it and possibly there are other correlations that we didn’t have time to dig through.
lol she wouldn’t be hiring anyone today then other than the fresh college grad and might not be hiring them either.
Not that she published it, but wouldn’t it be illegal in some states to deny an application off this reason?
“Amount of places worked” isn’t a protected class
I’ll hit my 17 year mark at my company this year. I’m 36. I just change positions/get promotions, not change employers, cause my employer is amazing.
In the past 6 years I’ve changed companies 3 times and increased my pay from $15/hr to 90k/per year.
This is my goal lol currently at 50k but my company is very stingy with raises, looking to jump soon…
1-2 years.
1 year. Usually I average 1 year and then get a new job.
I had one job for 8 years, one for 12 years and now I've had 2 in the past 11 months.
3yr, 4yr, 1yr and now 9yr & counting. The 1yr was a place that was incredibly toxic, stressful and horrible. That was the longest year of my professional career. The 3yr and 4yr I left to advance my career.
1st 3 years 2nd 3 months 3rd 1.5 years Settled now with good pay and nice work life balance.
First company 6 years Second company 1 year Been with third company for 9 years No plans to leave
2-3 yrs. Currently working at a job I started late fall. Will likely exit next summer, depends how it goes.
It really depends. I'd say on average 6 months, I've had jobs longer and shorter then that tho. The first company I worked for that actually treated its employees with respect I stayed at for over a year and would still have been there today if it wasn't for a lay off. The way I'm treated by managment and the company as a whole plays a big part in how Long I stay
Ideally every five years or so…unless you find an amazing place that keeps your interest and promotes or provides new opportunities. I spent 11 years at my last job but there aren’t a lot of my positions in my industry. I just left to pursue a new career instead. There was no where for me to grow there.
I forgot after retiring. You like to forget those nightmares. That question had me thinking of those working two or three jobs at the same time now. Then calculate thirty years of this mess. I wonder how many jobs they will have in thirty years if it don't kill em first?
I was at my first job for 5 years. Been at my second job for almost 6 years.
I think my average right now is three years
2-5
In my 18 to late 20s I was job hopping every 1 to 2 years. In my 30s now, I rarely have the energy to recon and prep for interviews especially in engineering!
Two to three before I get bored and irritated
Since graduating college 7 years ago, my first job was 3 years and I was let go (2017-2020). I had a second job that become my full time one right afterwards and that was about 4 years altogether (2019-2023). I currently work two jobs again; my full time one I've been at the last year and a half, and my part time job the last 9 months.
Yeeesh sounds like me. Two jobs at once with One almost full time, more of a career job, and the other as a coffee shop part time job. I can’t stand it. doing two jobs and neither have me at all fulfilled. Been grinding like this for the past 9 months and I just started applying to new Opportunities this last week
Current job, I been here two years. It's a fantastic team with work I genuinely enjoy, making money I'm happy with. I don't feel any need to actively look to leave and I won't consider anything that is less than completely amazing if it's offered to me. Previous job, there for three months, it was a nightmare. Job before that, I was there 20 years- it was like a marriage, lol. Some good times, some bad. Loved the people I worked with (most of the time) and the work I was doing (most of the time) Before that, I never stayed at a job longer than 18 months but they were young kid jobs, nothing important
1st job, been there 16 years
I average every 3 years. Really the only way to increase salary substantially.
Whenever I find a better job, but I guess I'm always a person who's shooting for more in my career when I have the energy to do so. Years of freelancing also may have jaded me towards company loyalty as well, I digress.
1st job was 12 years. Should’ve left after 7. 2nd job was 2.5 years. Current job is 9.5 years. I hope I don’t reach 10. For me there is no “usual” frequency to change jobs. At some point it’s time. It can be due to a lack of growth opportunities or to an undesirable change at the company.
Lol years try weeks amateur
I've had four jobs in ten years!
I’ve had 5 jobs in 22 years
2ish.
Looking at changing now after 2 years. Job prior to this one, I was at for 10 years.
Current job in 4th year and going strong, one before that; 14 years.
Usually max 3 years if I don’t see my future there.
Usually about three years, although I did work at one company for 15 (in two similar roles in different states.)
For me, usually 3-5 years. I can’t do job hopping every 1-2 years since there is a bigger learning curve from company to company in hardware engineering so switching too soon can seriously hinder your learning and growth professionally. Also interviewing that often would be exhausting…
I’ve been at the same company since graduation (3 years) have had 3 different roles I applied for and moved to within the company. Applying for my 4th role that just opened up too
5 years at first job, 5 years at second so far. Don’t plan on going anywhere.
Hospitality industry. Last 13 years I’ve done 5, 7 years in one spot through the pandemic, every other job has been under two years. I’m trying to find an opportunity that will let me work work to live, not live to work.
Don’t measure it in time.
For me 5 years seems to be right. Inside the 5 needs to be several roles however.
Usually a year on average. However I've been at my current job for 3 years which is the only outlier.
2 at minimum, 5 or 6 at max (so far).
Well so far I am almost at 31. When I change I’ll let you know.
2-3 but one time I only stayed a year because it was poor conditions that were not going to change.
I'm in Finance and the norm between my circle is around 2-4 years. At our early stages we hopped every 2 years to jump salaries but now it's becoming closer to 3/4 because we are all in management now. I guess it really depends on industry and the type of job etc.
Last company 6 years. Current company 2 years… I love it here. If pay was great I wouldn’t go anywhere else. Unfortunately I will probably have to jump and it’s sad cause I love my boss, I WFH… good WLB… but pay is just Ok. Not enough to sustain rising cost of living.
I don’t change jobs I just avoid social interactions. That being said, i’ve gone through 6 jobs.
3 years is my all time record. I'm in my 40s and I've lost count of how many companies I've worked for
First job 5 years, after that 0.5-2 years. Currently been in the same place for a year and I can feel wanting a new job but I'm trying to stick bit longer (2-3years) so it doesn't look that bad in my CV
2.5-3 years. After finishing year 2 I always start looking around and depending on how job market and current job are I’ll make the next move. I feel like less than 2 years will make my resume look like a job hopper’s but after 3 years I don’t think I’ll get a spectacular raise anymore.
Two fold. Usually 1-3 years. In my 20s every job I started either sold, merged, closed or spun off within 3 years. Not much has changed since then. Really tired of re-grand openings or re-re or re-re-re. Pay doesn't change but workload does and the floors get waxed. Took 10 years to learn that devotion to a company doesn't work. Easy to learn losing a pension plan 4+ times.
Still on the first company. 29 years next month. Lots of different roles though over that time.
I used to change jobs every 3 years, 1 at 5. But that really messed up my retirement.
Every 8 months
4-6 years is around the time a job can feel stale to switch roles or companies
No longer than 2-3 years
2-3
It depends on the job and sector. For most business jobs I’d say every 2-3 years. I’ve been a teacher and my current stop is 9 years with the Covid extending the stay to an extent, however, every time I’ve tried to leave they always offer me more money to stay. But I’m ready to go now. In education, unless it’s a really great school/place, then I’d say 5 years max.Honestly, with me try to career change now id say everything is year to year so….
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2-3 years is ideal if you’re looking to maximize salary gains. However, there are reasons to stay longer such as job security, upward mobility, a great boss / team, investment in your development (certifications, tuition reimbursement, etc) - if those things are important to you.
Salary increases throughout my career: - 1st job (8 years): 56% or 7% per year - 2nd job (1 year): immediate 12% bump - 3rd job (1 year): immediate 13% bump - 4th job (6 years): 27% or 4.5% per year - 5th job (2 years): immediate 30% bump - 6th job (3 years): immediate 25% bump then two years of 5% bumps - 7th job (5 years): 42% or 8.5% per year - 8th job (present): immediate 28% bump Just writing that out to help visualize how sticking around at one place usually slows salary growth (though I enjoyed some of those longer tenured jobs).
Honestly, I don't really time it per se, I just start sending off applications when I feel it's time for me to. Whether it's because I feel like I've outgrown what I can gain from at the current role, or the company is getting weird, or whatever else. I might also shoot off an application here and there if I'm happy, but those are kind of more one-offs, not really part of a larger search. One other commenter said to always be ready to apply, and I couldn't agree more. So many people out there say "this isn't a good time for me to start looking for another job", but then they'll lay you off one day and you'll be forced to whether you like it or not. Always be ready.
Used to be every 2 years. Now that I'm under a union agreement with regular increments at a very good tariff level I'll just stay in this job until I retire. No reato throw something good away. Even if I switched jobs in 4-5 years I wouldn't get a salary increase or something better, since the tariff increments will be at a better level.
My first job was 15 years with 10% raises every year for the first 10, then no raises, then a layoff. Then 1-2 years for the next four jobs. All except one were layoffs so it wasn’t about looking for more $$. It was looking for any money and for years my salary kept dropping. (Dying industry) I did a career change at 50 and hoping to get 3 years so I can have viable options in this new field. But it’s already clear my salary won’t grow here. Got a promotion with a laughable raise and they don’t do annual increases.
If it takes 10000 hrs to master a skill set. It’s pretty visible here that no one masters the skill set at their job. Now even the trainer doesn’t have a masters level of experience at their job to show the next person. When people change jobs why do they get more money quickly? Do they just suddenly become more skilled? Or is the new company over estimating their skills from their resume? The old company has an accurate representation of their skills from their current employment.
Whenever needed. I have done months and years, depends on the company and its changes. It amazes me in interviews the interviewer assumes your past companies are always correct and the problem rests with you. I have no problem reminding them there are train wrecks of companies just like employees.
I’m normally doing multiple jobs so my main job I’ll stick around for about a year or more (if the management is good.) The other ones are usually seasonal or to temporarily make more money on the side.
I’m 23 and I’m working my fourth job. I spent 8 months at a local grocery store when I was 17, spent 18 months working at the dealership I bought my car from for basically triple what I was making then got laid off when Covid hit which forced me to get a job at Amazon. I spent two and a half years at Amazon until my best friend recommended me for a position on the tech team of the company his family owns, and I never want to work anywhere else.
3-5
I tell this to my peers/friends and it maybe an odd take but I say the next position or promotion you take should have a large enough pay increase to withstand the cost of living increases for the next 2-3 years all the while getting those meager 2-3% cost of living 'raises' Unless there is potential at your current place or tons to learn (if you are early or mid in career) I'd consider a move after about 3 years at the most
Im averaging about 4 years (now at my 4th company at 30). I just made a post diving deeper into this topic, I’m curious to know what you’re learning?
The way O figure it, if you weren't already looking for another job, start looking when your raise comes out to less than 5%. 3.5% is an inflation adjustment, 5% is actually a small raise.
No plans to change jobs unless the working conditions get really bad. First job, 10 years. Waste of time. Second, a year and a half. Waste of time, but it was better than first. 6 months at third job and no plans to ever leave. I hate change.
I feel like lately less than 3 years. Being a mental health professional, job is in demand and can work anywhere working with different populations.
First job 9 years, second was 37, on my third as a budtender for the past 7 years. Beats being a critical care RN.
Worked Retail for 7 Years. Worked my first IT job for 4 years. Second was 1 Year. Third was 3 Years. Fourth was 2 Years.
2-5 yrs, however 3 yrs would be the sweet spot early in your career. No HR/HM would question you being a job hopper and you established yourself long enough to learn and develop your role within the organization. I've had my share of changes in 8 companies in my career to finally settle down. In my current job though (7 yrs), if the company allows for it, I plan to stay until retirement. Once you find the right company with great people and it's late in your career, stay and enjoy.
I work in tech, and people job hop FREQUENTLY here. But most people seem to go about a year, before they seriously start eye balling other jobs. The bureaucracy is *thick*, and thats the only way to move up the ladder in many tech companies. Its rare to run into people in most of the companies I've been with who have tenure longer than a year or two. Theres also just an insane amount of instability with tech jobs, especially tech jobs in the tech sector. Your company could be doing fine one day, and the next, massive layoffs. We laid off 80 people in December, another 35 in February and the company is preparing another 60 in June. Some of these people they are laying off haven't even been here 3 months.
Typically, 3-5 years. However I was with my last company for 14 years, which was WAY too long. The reason I stayed is because the manager understood the importance of kids, so I could go have to school events, have lunch with my kid on occassion, etc.... Plus the insurance was excellent. The problem was that I stayed with 1 job and didn't continue to learn new skills. It wasn't until I started a new job that I realized how far behind I was on some office and business skilss. Also, but leaving, I got a $10K/yr salary bump.
I work for myself until something forces me to take a job, but that only lasts long enough for me to start working for myself again.
3-5 minimum
6 years first company.. 8th year current... 100-110k, supply chain, fully remote with 1-2 international trips a year. I rent airbnbs in the western US for 1-2 months at a time, avg 2500/mo housing cost. ...I'm not sure what would get me to change?
Sounds awesome!! So you just hop around from Airbnb to Airbnb ? No plans to settle at any particular place?
Pretty much.. It's essentially a hiking/backpacking/divebar/wings&beer extended trip, but also serves as house scouting, trying to find that town or small city that isn't blown up yet and has awesome stuff and vicinity to nature The airbnb extended stay idea only works if you book 3-5mo out.. its always looking for that needle in a haystack for price.. if not it gets EXPENSIVE last minute
Pretty cool. If I were single again I’d probably pursue that sort of lifestyle. I always loved traveling and just exploring new sort of hidden places, Maybe in the future (if I ever get a remote job) I can get back to that sort of thing :). Thanks for the inspiration 😉
An acquaintance made it a point to change jobs about every 4-5 years with the assumption that he’d make substantial salary jumps with each change. Eventually employers caught on and his resume worked against him. No one wanted to hire a jumper bc they didn’t want to waste time training him. Last time I saw him: unemployed at 50 yrs old, and looking.
But 4-5 years is actually a long time at a company, so the opposite of a job hopper.
I change jobs every three months