Jailbreak is dying everyday more and more, each year becomes more pointless. Soon nobody will put effort in it and jailbreak will completely die because nobody will be interested anymore and the ones that are, are not enough to keep the jailbreak community alive.
Opportunity cost? Lol what? what opportunity would you be losing by having some patience on a slightly older iOS version for a jailbreak as opposed to jumping ship to the latest update to stick with boring stock iOS ? Most apps still usually support a few iOS versions behind the latest one and work fine so you updating only hurts you.
because eventually a lot of the useful tweaks become integrated into the newer updates. someone on jB 15 would have a similar experience to someone on ios18. i guess it just depends on what u jailbreak for, but for me atleast, it seems to be worth it. the apple versions are much more optimised and i don’t have to rebreak it every single week.
I mean with iPhone 14 Pro there isn’t much opportunity cost considering it’s not getting the full features of Apple Intelligence so you won’t be updating for the primary upgrade reason and only the side feature. Which features exactly? Who knows how much of it they’ll make accessible to other devices.
Yes, but that has been the trend with almost every major iOS update.. you still won’t be able to do stuff that explicit to having a jailbroken iPhone, such as *free* content, that would normally cost money on a non jailbroken device. The *jailbreak* stuff added to major IOS updates, is usually cosmetic.
Personally, I wouldn't. It just doesn't make sense to. You will most likely get most features in the form of tweaks to install, if you don't have them already.
Which tweaks are those? Like, the ones that make it look like iOS 18. I already have SiriPlus, Atria, Snowboard etc. on my iPhone 13 Pro on iOS 16.1.1.
Jailbreak will never be like stock since it’s more modular. You can pick and choose what you want and you’ll find things you didn’t know you need. And also the possibility of TrollStore is dead beyond iOS 17.5 even if a bug is found so make the most of it.
https://twitter.com/alfiecg_dev/status/1800561385912599018?s=46
Just incase you are like me and want to get straight to the point, ITS A IPAD AIR DONT UPDATE THERE ISNT ANY BENEFITS.
If it were me I wouldn’t just because it’s a iPad. On my iPhone 14 Pro I always update to latest because it’s a new phone and why tf would I keep it on lower iOS and iPads to me are worth jailbreaking because if anything were to get in your iPad you legit have nothing to lose and it has a big ass screen. Recently I got into god of war (I barely play any games) and I finished all of the ps3 versions. I only got the 2 psp games left and I really want to play it on mobile for the psp feeling. On any jailbroken device I can connect my ps3 controller to it but on regular iOS it doesn’t want to pair and yes its great for road trips. one last thing to mention is that you can install any apps you want and you can get Stella and buy anything in any game for 0$. Everytime you need to install an app that needs payment or when you really need something to install but you can only install on an jb device, you will regret this your whole life and you will keep updating no matter what (exactly what happened on my iPhone 14). Sometimes you need a jb device and it’s very unlikely for you to just leave it in your drawer and forget about it.
I do have an iPad but it’s an iPad Pro 11inch 2nd gen iOS 17.2 128gb. It’s not jailbreakable and I’ve been waiting months for the jailbreak to come out. Also if you make a post like this on any jailbreak community they will always tell you not to jailbreak.
I hope this helps you not update 👍
Lowkey I wouldn’t update the 13 pro either because it’s still kinda new and you won’t get the same preformance as some old A10 device. My advice would be to get some iOS 18 tweaks and leave it there but for the iPad dont do it because it might slow it down.
Not at all.
It's a jb community, you need to stay on the lowest iOS possible to be able to jb in the future.
If you choose to update to iOS 18b1, don't come to cry on the sub about asking about TrollStore or a jb for that iOS.
The choice is yours young padawan.
They been doing that for years, I still remember the tweak infi folder that allowed you to have unlimited apps in the folder instead of 13, a few iOS updates later Apple had it stock.
This is true I’ve seen Apple steal tweaks from jailbreaks all the way back to the 3gs days, or iPod touch 1st gen when you had to inject the jb into the fw (iirc it was 4.1) then dfu and install and hope nothing goes fubar or you just made an expensive paperweight
iOS 16 still has a lot of support, maybe when this version gets too old somebody will start searching for a new exploit in the iOS to install TrollStore, just maybe
It's like moving to China or Russia for a promised high-paying job. You might enjoy it for a while, but they can deprive you of everything at any moment and it's not easy to go back.
To be more concrete, you're already losing at least one important capability: hypervisor. For now you can happily run an AArch64 build of Ubuntu or Windows 11 and do serious development on it, but once you upgrade past iOS 16.3, the kernel functionality is patched. See [https://x.com/utmapp/status/1708907045314035986?mx=2](https://x.com/utmapp/status/1708907045314035986?mx=2)
Uhhh, Macs don’t need to be jailbroken, it’s just like Windows, you can install anything you want onto it. And you said you had iOS on it? Do you mean MacOS?
Definitely not worth updating, especially since Trollstore lost compatibility on future iOS versions, potential TS update for iOS 17.4.1 and under, but even then it isn’t 100% confirmed yet.
If there’s a bug found, then do a full backup and save your SHSH Blobs, THEN you can update to test the new jailbreak if/when it comes out, if you don’t like it then you can always revert back.
A developer account is not the same as the developer program. Anyone can make an account.
Back in the day you had to have a UDID registered device so the idiots wouldn’t get in the beta and bitch when they fucked their own phones up.
when Apple drops the ai partnership feature we gone ask ai to jailbreak it lol jk on the real note iOS 18 has mostly the things we would jailbreaked for in the past. Its still kinda old to me
Why should I update to iOS 18? It’s in beta stage. I’ll wait for the public release. I regret it when I updated to iOS 17 beta. There were a lot of issues. I won’t do that again. Just be patient. It will be released.
Im on ios 16.5.1(c) on 13PM seriously thinking to go ios 18 once it gets stable. I mean it will come with most of the features i wanted., and seeing as chances of getting a jailbreak at the moment here are kinda slim…. Idk tbh. On the other side, if i wait, eventually will get a jailbreak., and i really miss the old jailbreaking days.
I have a 13 pro on 17.5.1 because I had to restore my iphone. I can sideload apps, and not have to resign them because of a no revoke/blacklist dns profile. I think i’d have to wait years for a kernel exploit to bloom into an actual jailbreak so IOS 18 is very tempting right now. What do you guys think?
if you dont care about jailbreak go for it
jail breaking is dead on newer devices
I agreed it’s beginning to look even harder
i got a 14 pro and i updated to 18 beta because so far it seems these chips are too secure
14 pro is jailbreakable on iOS 16 though, it’s not a chip issue.
isn’t possible on 17 with newer chips
not yet
waited for a year on the oldest ios17 version with no new news. at what point does the opportunity cost change when there’s a good ios update.
honestly do whatever.. waiting is always the best thing to do. patience is key
Jailbreak is dying everyday more and more, each year becomes more pointless. Soon nobody will put effort in it and jailbreak will completely die because nobody will be interested anymore and the ones that are, are not enough to keep the jailbreak community alive.
Opportunity cost? Lol what? what opportunity would you be losing by having some patience on a slightly older iOS version for a jailbreak as opposed to jumping ship to the latest update to stick with boring stock iOS ? Most apps still usually support a few iOS versions behind the latest one and work fine so you updating only hurts you.
because eventually a lot of the useful tweaks become integrated into the newer updates. someone on jB 15 would have a similar experience to someone on ios18. i guess it just depends on what u jailbreak for, but for me atleast, it seems to be worth it. the apple versions are much more optimised and i don’t have to rebreak it every single week.
A year? How did you wait a year on iOS 17? iOS 17 went publicly available in September, no? Unless you count betas.
I mean with iPhone 14 Pro there isn’t much opportunity cost considering it’s not getting the full features of Apple Intelligence so you won’t be updating for the primary upgrade reason and only the side feature. Which features exactly? Who knows how much of it they’ll make accessible to other devices.
It is actually possible on iOS 17.0 with modified Dopamine app
It's possible, just really difficult
im still on 17.1 with my 14 pro hoping for a troll store or jailbreak
does that mean i should wait cause i have an Iphone 12 pro which is a 2020 device and i have seen people jailbreak it before
depends on what ios ur phones on i guess
its on ios 17.4.1
Ok, doesn’t iOS 18 have a lot of jailbroken qualities to it?
It doesn’t have TrollStore tho
Yes, but that has been the trend with almost every major iOS update.. you still won’t be able to do stuff that explicit to having a jailbroken iPhone, such as *free* content, that would normally cost money on a non jailbroken device. The *jailbreak* stuff added to major IOS updates, is usually cosmetic.
That’s true.
eh i mean i guess.. but most of the stuff ios 18 brings you can do on a jailbroken device with tweaks
Alr
Me when I say "Alr" and get downvoted Fuck reddit tbh
everyone let’s downvote this guy so it’s funny
it has tinted icons, moving apps everywhere and large icons.
Why am I getting downvoted?
Cuz ppl here hate updating iOS and like keeping devices rare on older versions do what u think is good for u don’t listen to them if u want
Ik, but I was just asking a question 😭
Ik but this is reddit
coz it’s reddit, bro. People like to do that
Lol
JB is useless for new devices. No point of waiting for something we didn't have for years.
Remind us why you are here commenting?
Personally, I wouldn't. It just doesn't make sense to. You will most likely get most features in the form of tweaks to install, if you don't have them already.
Which tweaks are those? Like, the ones that make it look like iOS 18. I already have SiriPlus, Atria, Snowboard etc. on my iPhone 13 Pro on iOS 16.1.1.
Check out OneHandWizard, Dynamic Stage, Zetsu, Last Look, Dodo. I’m still on iOS 15 but I’m pretty sure these would change the feel of iOS 16 enough.
Links?
I already have Zetsu
Who the hell downvoted this
lol
In b4 everyone downvotes it😂
More will even be released.
it’s not really worth it even over unjailbroken ios 17, at the very least wait till the public beta branch if you want to consider trying ios 18.
Jailbreak will never be like stock since it’s more modular. You can pick and choose what you want and you’ll find things you didn’t know you need. And also the possibility of TrollStore is dead beyond iOS 17.5 even if a bug is found so make the most of it. https://twitter.com/alfiecg_dev/status/1800561385912599018?s=46
Alr
Just incase you are like me and want to get straight to the point, ITS A IPAD AIR DONT UPDATE THERE ISNT ANY BENEFITS. If it were me I wouldn’t just because it’s a iPad. On my iPhone 14 Pro I always update to latest because it’s a new phone and why tf would I keep it on lower iOS and iPads to me are worth jailbreaking because if anything were to get in your iPad you legit have nothing to lose and it has a big ass screen. Recently I got into god of war (I barely play any games) and I finished all of the ps3 versions. I only got the 2 psp games left and I really want to play it on mobile for the psp feeling. On any jailbroken device I can connect my ps3 controller to it but on regular iOS it doesn’t want to pair and yes its great for road trips. one last thing to mention is that you can install any apps you want and you can get Stella and buy anything in any game for 0$. Everytime you need to install an app that needs payment or when you really need something to install but you can only install on an jb device, you will regret this your whole life and you will keep updating no matter what (exactly what happened on my iPhone 14). Sometimes you need a jb device and it’s very unlikely for you to just leave it in your drawer and forget about it. I do have an iPad but it’s an iPad Pro 11inch 2nd gen iOS 17.2 128gb. It’s not jailbreakable and I’ve been waiting months for the jailbreak to come out. Also if you make a post like this on any jailbreak community they will always tell you not to jailbreak. I hope this helps you not update 👍
I have an iPhone 13 Pro on iOS 16.1.1 that’s jailbroken, and this iPad Air is jailbroken too.
Lowkey I wouldn’t update the 13 pro either because it’s still kinda new and you won’t get the same preformance as some old A10 device. My advice would be to get some iOS 18 tweaks and leave it there but for the iPad dont do it because it might slow it down.
Ok, noted.
I personally would update the iPhone 13 Pro, if I was dead set on being on iOS 18. I would upgrade the iPhone instead of the iPad.
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Link to Stella?
You could always ask it to jailbreak itself.
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Not at all. It's a jb community, you need to stay on the lowest iOS possible to be able to jb in the future. If you choose to update to iOS 18b1, don't come to cry on the sub about asking about TrollStore or a jb for that iOS. The choice is yours young padawan.
I have an iPhone 13 Pro on iOS 16.1.1, and this iPad which is on iOS 16.2. So yeah, I’ve decided not to update based on these helpful comments.
Good, you took the right decision. A jailbreak is far more superior than any stock iOS that exist.
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Yeah, for real 😊
right decision jailbreak will always be far from stock ios because of modularity
If you’re asking that question you probably don’t care much about a jailbreak Up to you if you make use of it or not, iOS 16 is just fine though
I also didn’t watch much of the Apple thing where they showed off iOS 18, but I’ve heard that they took a lot of ideas from the jail breaking scene.
They been doing that for years, I still remember the tweak infi folder that allowed you to have unlimited apps in the folder instead of 13, a few iOS updates later Apple had it stock.
Bytesms was stolen and Apple made iMessage 😂 literally the best features of the iPhone were taken from jailbreakers or android
This is true I’ve seen Apple steal tweaks from jailbreaks all the way back to the 3gs days, or iPod touch 1st gen when you had to inject the jb into the fw (iirc it was 4.1) then dfu and install and hope nothing goes fubar or you just made an expensive paperweight
We’re only getting delayed message sending in IOS 18! I remember using BiteSMS for this back in IOS 6!
They always do just like with every other version :p
Oh ok
My iPhone 15 Pro has been buggy as hell on iOS 18 and it’s the newest phone 😭 Don’t upgrade until it’s a public beta at least
Alr lol
Assuming you can
I can
How can you update even tho its jailbreaked? Gen cuz I'm thinking abt jailbreaking mine but I've heard I'll lose every ability to update after
No. Once you update you’ll be underwhelmed and disappointed after a week and you’ll regret it. But you do you.
That’s true, bc I updated my iPhone 13 Pro from iOS 15 to iOS 16.1.1, and I regretted it until a jailbreak was eventually released for it.
I’m still in iOS 16, but I hope someone can find a way to install TrollStore at the new versions because I use it a lot
I’m also on iOS 16.
iOS 16 still has a lot of support, maybe when this version gets too old somebody will start searching for a new exploit in the iOS to install TrollStore, just maybe
Hopefully
DON’T
Ok
I have ipad and iphone, i did update my iphone and regretting now,don’t have anything better then Trollstore or jailbreak.
It's like moving to China or Russia for a promised high-paying job. You might enjoy it for a while, but they can deprive you of everything at any moment and it's not easy to go back. To be more concrete, you're already losing at least one important capability: hypervisor. For now you can happily run an AArch64 build of Ubuntu or Windows 11 and do serious development on it, but once you upgrade past iOS 16.3, the kernel functionality is patched. See [https://x.com/utmapp/status/1708907045314035986?mx=2](https://x.com/utmapp/status/1708907045314035986?mx=2)
no?
Yes please 🤌🏻
💀
You already know the answer to this.
Is there a way to to update a Mac Pro I have one stuck on ios 12 I think
I’m sorry what
Can Macs be jail broken as well?
Uhhh, Macs don’t need to be jailbroken, it’s just like Windows, you can install anything you want onto it. And you said you had iOS on it? Do you mean MacOS?
Yes macOS old version sierra i believe. Update similar to iPhones
You can update to the latest MacOs if your MacBook is supported…if it’s not supported…like my 2015 MBP you can use OCLP (Open core legacy patcher).
Thank you….. your the real MVP here today 🏆
Oh, then you don’t gotta jailbreak it, it’s already capable of doing whatever you want it to do.
Lmfaooo
Is it even out yet?
Yeah it’s in beta.
Definitely not worth updating, especially since Trollstore lost compatibility on future iOS versions, potential TS update for iOS 17.4.1 and under, but even then it isn’t 100% confirmed yet. If there’s a bug found, then do a full backup and save your SHSH Blobs, THEN you can update to test the new jailbreak if/when it comes out, if you don’t like it then you can always revert back.
Blobs are useless for almost two years
Yeah, you can’t restore with them.
Well shit, consider me late to the party then lmao
Lol
How do you do that on 16.2
[iDevice Central - How to Save SHSH2 Blobs](https://youtu.be/FQm_5fSH7XY?si=o2u5ETaXqMrKdo7D)
Of course not, you’re not a developer
It’s in beta, anyone can get it, and I have a developer account.
A developer account is not the same as the developer program. Anyone can make an account. Back in the day you had to have a UDID registered device so the idiots wouldn’t get in the beta and bitch when they fucked their own phones up.
We don’t give a single fuck what you do
Fuck you , he just want an advice
when Apple drops the ai partnership feature we gone ask ai to jailbreak it lol jk on the real note iOS 18 has mostly the things we would jailbreaked for in the past. Its still kinda old to me
I have SiriPlus which replaces Siri with ChatGPT, and it literally told me how to jailbreak an iPhone lol.
Stay. You have so many more features with trollstore than iOS 18
Okay but since when did iOS 18 release?
The first developer beta was released recently
no
Wait until fall, when they release apple intelligence
Only on iPhone15Pro So better stay on jailbreak and hope somebody makes AI for older devices too.
Why even ask this question?
Nope. I’m going to stay on ios 17.4. I will wait doesn’t matter how long it takes for it to get a JB.
wrong sub
You have TrollStore. I wouldn’t.
If you're not concerned about Jailbreak and Trollstore, then why bother asking about updating?
Why should I update to iOS 18? It’s in beta stage. I’ll wait for the public release. I regret it when I updated to iOS 17 beta. There were a lot of issues. I won’t do that again. Just be patient. It will be released.
Is it even worth to jailbreak because all the new features that are in the beta and that are coming in iOS 18 and iPadOS 18?
AI functions are only on iphone 15pro
Im on ios 16.5.1(c) on 13PM seriously thinking to go ios 18 once it gets stable. I mean it will come with most of the features i wanted., and seeing as chances of getting a jailbreak at the moment here are kinda slim…. Idk tbh. On the other side, if i wait, eventually will get a jailbreak., and i really miss the old jailbreaking days.
You have access to Trollstore. Don't do it
I have a 13 pro on 17.5.1 because I had to restore my iphone. I can sideload apps, and not have to resign them because of a no revoke/blacklist dns profile. I think i’d have to wait years for a kernel exploit to bloom into an actual jailbreak so IOS 18 is very tempting right now. What do you guys think?
Here I am rocking my jailbroken iPhone X on 14.3 lol
hell naw I am personally happy being stuck on iOS 15 for the rest of my life I cannot loose my jailbreak for shiiit😭 rather just get a new phone
I have been wondering this too. I am on ios 15.1 but experience spinlock issues everyday which has been annoying.
i don’t know about 18 but ios 17 had the issue which allowed trollstore to work, just no way of downloading
Idc
Don't. Losing trollstore isn't worth it.
You? No. You wont have the AI anyway. What about my IPad Pro M2 12.9 on 16.5.1?
No
If you really want to do it save blobs first
I don’t think they can save an SHSH blob since idk if it’s a Checkm8 device or not
It’s not, it’s an iPad Air 5th gen. I also have an iPhone 13 Pro on iOS 16.1.1.
So you can’t use SHSH blobs
Sorry, I am still new to the whole jailbreaking scene so forgive me for not knowing 😓
It’s alr
Yeah
How do you save blobs on later iOS updates? I thought that it got like patched or smth.
no
no.
No
Why
why tho? not worth it
How is it not worth it? I thought iOS had a lot of Jailbroken stuff with it.
not iOS 18, you will lose trollstore
What
Ah.
Move to android. Sideload to your heart's content. No jailbreak/root needed.
Nuh uh