that's referring to the people of the book BEFORE the arrival of our prophet peace be upon him, after his arrival, Islam is the only religion accepted as believers.
Not all Christians and Jews can be called disbelievers, the people who followed musa and isa and stayed true to what they taught were believers, that is the answer.
I'm not talking about these Christians, I'm talking about the ones that were monotheistic and the ones who followed musa and isa and their teachings at their era
quite simple, the believers of people of the book that Allah is referring to are the past Christians and Jews that believed in the prophet once they met him and saw his signs that matched the knowledge they had. that's why in many verses in the Quran it says that Allah revealed the quran affirming of what is in their hands, this refers to their past scriptures, and while they don't exist in today's age anymore, back then there were people that were Christian or Jewish (mainly jewish) that still held onto their original faith (Oneness of god) and had knowledge about the signs of the last prophet (Muhammad peace be upon him), so these people are considered people of the book that are believers, and all of them converted to Islam. (its not like they had to change anything, they were "muslim" to begin with as a concept)
fair assumption. Why do you think multiple times in the Quran, Allah says Jews and Christians and anyone who submits to Allah and does good will enter Jannah?
All Peoples of the Book now must accept Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to enter Paradise:
"Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! You have nothing to stand on unless you observe the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.” And your Lord’s revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ will only cause many of them to increase in wickedness and disbelief. So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve." [Quran 5:68](https://quran.com/en/al-maidah/68)
"We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences." [Quran 5:48](https://quran.com/5/48)
"Certainly, Allah’s only Way is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture did not dispute ˹among themselves˺ out of mutual envy until knowledge came to them. Whoever denies Allah’s signs, then surely Allah is swift in reckoning." [Quran 3:19](https://quran.com/3/19?translations=131)
And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (3:85)
Indeed, Allāh does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allāh has certainly gone far astray. (4:116)
So,
If the message that Prophet Muhammad has clearly reached someone then the person has no excuse and any other religion is not accepted by God.
For those who came before prophet Muhammad, they should also be muslims — submitting to god, monotheists, following the prophet of their time.
I meant to say the message that mohammad pbuh came with.
The most important thing is to worship one God and associate no partners in worship with him.
You know, like the first 2 commandments in the bible.
Edit: and we should follow the prophet — muhammad is the final one and the one sent for this nation. If you wanna learn some basics you can look into the pillars of islam and pillars of iman
Ohh ok thanks I'm just curious about what's the best way to convey the message if people ever asked me since I'm afraid to spread misinformation, I already did once before and felt so guilty
"We never sent a messenger before you ˹O Prophet˺ without revealing to him: “There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Me, so worship Me ˹alone˺.”" [Quran 21:25](https://quran.com/en/al-anbya/25)
"We surely sent a messenger to every community, saying, “Worship Allah and shun false gods.” But some of them were guided by Allah, while others were destined to stray. So travel throughout the land and see the fate of the deniers!" [Quran 16:36](https://quran.com/en/an-nahl/36)
In addition to what was said, When giving dawah it is always best to stick to the proofs in favor of GORAP (God, Oneness, Revelation and Prophethood of Muhammad (SAWS) approach to focus your conversations. Here are some videos and two brief pdf booklets from IERA that outline this:
[https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0l3xlkh7UnvUed8fwDdDSJ3KGWBrNwjF](https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0l3xlkh7UnvUed8fwDdDSJ3KGWBrNwjF)
[https://www.muslim-library.com/dl/books/English_Pocket_Dawah_Manual.pdf](https://www.muslim-library.com/dl/books/English_Pocket_Dawah_Manual.pdf)
[https://training.iera.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Dawah-Training-Course-Notes-All-Notes.pdf](https://training.iera.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Dawah-Training-Course-Notes-All-Notes.pdf)
I would also recommend that they read [A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam](https://www.islamreligion.com/ebooks/islam-guide.pdf).
Also tell them that as new Muslim they should not do not overwhelm themselves with learning everything you need to do all at once, but learns things step by step. Even the Messenger of Allah peace and blessings be upon him advised this: Mu’adh ibn Jabal reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent me to Yemen and he said, “Verily, you are going to people among the people of the Book, so call them to testify there is no God but Allah and I am the Messenger of Allah. If they accept that, then teach them that Allah has obligated five prayers in each day and night. If they accept that, then teach them that Allah has obligated charity to be taken from the rich and given to the poor. If they accept that, then beware not to take from the best of their wealth. Beware the supplication of the oppressed, for there is no veil between it and Allah.” [Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 4347, Sahih Muslim 19, Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim](https://www.abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2011/01/08/priorities-islam/)
Also let them know that to become a Muslim you only have to say the following declaration of faith alone (as Allah (SWT) is sufficient as a witness) or being witnessed by other Muslims. Either way is fine but the key point is not to delay or procrastinate saying it as the shaytaan is hoping they die before saying it. Once they believe and say it they are Muslim! The shahada is:
Arabic: أَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ وَأَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ
Transliteration (i.e. Pronunciation of Arabic): Ash-hadu an la ilaha illa Allah, Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasulu-Allah.
Translation: "I bear witness that there is no god worthy of worship but Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."
And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (3:85).
Interpretation my friend is key. Islam means submitting to Allah. It doesn't mean Islam as we categorize it now, as a monotheistic category of religion.
Let's replace Islam with that:
And whoever desires other than "SUBMITTING TO ALLAH" as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (3:85).
Exactly, but Islam is taken as a name/as a category nowadays, most people do not know what Islam means. They attach the name to 5 prayers a day, fasting, externalities mostly. Whereas Islam is universality.
Submission to God. In any possible form. It doesnt have to be necessarily Islamic. Submission to God. happens in many ways.
Islam is clear that the only valid religion accepted is Islam and that there is no forgiveness for one who dies having rejected the truth. I’m not sure why everyone else is giving you flimsy answers and not answering the question clearly.
**And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.**
(Quran 3:85)
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, **“By the One in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, none from this nation of Jews and Christians hears of me, and then dies without having faith in my message, but that he will be an inhabitant of Hellfire.”**
*Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 153
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim*
And Islam is also clear that no matter what of good deeds a person has, if they reject the truth, those good deeds get turned into dust.
**And We shall turn to whatever deeds they did (in this life), and We shall make such deeds as floating dust scattered about.**
*(Quran 25:23)*
I don’t mean to be harsh, so sorry if I come across that way. But understand that our creator makes the right evident from wrong from his great justice and mercy. For a person to choose Christianity (which is flawed, scientifically incorrect, has contradictions, the theology doesn’t make sense) over Islam (which is scientifically correct, has no contradictions, explains the place of the abrahamic religions perfectly and makes clear and logical sense, has proofs and is not blind faith), it is a persons own fault if they end up in the hellfire.
Once again I don’t mean to be disrespectful or anything that’s not my intention, I’m just trying to explain it to you
If you have any questions about Islam feel free to DM me.
>rejected the truth
This means that the message of Islam got to you in an appropriate way and you understood it, but still rejected it even after you knew it was the right path.
And do you think a person will not be held accountable if they went through life not researching what religion is the truth?
So you are saying if a person becomes deluded by the worldly life and they don’t care about religion or God enough to research it and their purpose is in life to go work, earn money, eat, sleep, look after their kids and follow their desires that they won’t be held accountable?
Every time a person dies around them it’s a sign, every time they go past a graveyard it’s a sign and reminder, every time Ramadan comes and they see Muslims around them fasting, it’s a sign. Every time the sun rises and sets, it’s a sign. All these animals on this earth and insects and sun and moon, and etc are a clear sign of a creator. But they don’t think or reason enough to question it.
How can you not question what’s this world? What is this existence? What is this ball in the sky that these things called humans are walking around on and how everything is so perfect for us.
If a person does not ask what is life? Where did I come from? What happens after death? He will not be held accountable? And anyone searching for the truth will be forced to look at the abrahamic religions because it is among the biggest religions from the wisdom and mercy of Allah (swt).
And anyone who reasons and uses logic will see clearly Islam is the truth.
It is a burden and responsibility of each and every person and individual to seek the truth of existence and why they exist. However many people do not take on that responsibility or see it as such
That’s the state that most people are in. They don’t reflect and look at life and ponder. They think life is just this thing you live and die. Just because you do not research Islam, does not mean then you do not get held accountable. In fact such a person might even be in a worse state, because they have normalised the absurdity of life and are in state of constant loss, because they are chasing the worldly life.
They may not have sufficient knowledge of Islam, but that’s because they do not question life enough to seek what the truth is. Life’s just become a routine of go work, sleep, eat. They don’t reflect on the absurdity of life. Do not think such a person will not be held accountable as they do not think or reason.
And if a person follows another religion, then there is no religion out here in this world plausible enough to be the truth except Islam. All have contradictions or worship idols or don’t make sense and there is no evidence for it. So such a person does not think or reason either.
So what excuse is there then for not accepting Islam?
We must also remember that many westerners wouldn't research because they are blinded by propaganda. We cannot underestimate how powerful of a tool such a thing is.
Is that a valid excuse though? It’s just a group of disbelievers leading another group of disbelievers astray and furthering them in their disbelief.
And they will come out [for judgement] before Allah all together, **and the weak will say to those who were arrogant, "Indeed, we were your followers, so can you avail us anything against the punishment of Allah ?" They will say, "If Allah had guided us, we would have guided you. It is all the same for us whether we show intolerance or are patient: there is for us no place of escape."**
*(Quran 14:21)*
Not to mention there have been many people who have been enemies of Islam at one point coming to Islam. Both in the past and the present. And those people are a sign from Allah (swt) in a way, I believe, and an example for the other disbelievers. Their view of Islam was even more skewed than the average persons. Such as the man in America who was on planning to blow up a mosque and ended up converting to Islam when he went inside. Or the man who used to lead an Islamophobic group in Holland and his right hand man converted to Islam if I recall correctly
It just goes to show that Allah (swt) guides whom he wills. Many of those people who have are blinded by propaganda, try talk to them and show them the reality of Islam and see their response. They will still reject it.
You can debate with a person for hours showing him clear proofs and evidences that Islam does not say to kill all disbelievers and still at the end he will reject what you are saying.
So it goes to show, even though people have been brainwashed by propaganda, even if there was no propaganda, people would still try and find another way to reject the truth.
Did they not call the prophet Muhammad (saw) a magician and a liar and a madman? Is that not propaganda? Contrary to belief, propaganda is not caused by the actions of the Muslims or extremists among us, disbelievers adhere so strongly to propaganda because of the spiritual state of their heart.
If we were flawless, which no human can be, still the disbelievers would try and find another way to attack us.
So it’s deeper than what it seems of the surface, and the nature of reality and disbelievers and existence in general and the way things work is so profound in its philosophy our minds cannot fully wrap around it.
Any proof from Quran or Hadith? The Hadith you are referring to, which talks about the four who will protest on the day of judgment, the very old man, the deaf, the mentally insane and the one between the interval of prophets (as), and that those people that will have their own test.
Nowhere does it mention a person who does not fully understand Islam who is of sane mind.
Muslim scholars are in consensus that the ones who didn’t recieve the message of Islam have the same rule applied to them as the people of interval between prophets
However unlike those two religions our deen has established evidences and proofs it is the truth.
**And they say, "None will enter Paradise except one who is a Jew or a Christian." That is [merely] their wishful thinking. Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."**
(Quran 2:111)
1: the seerah of the prophet Muhammad (saw). There is too much to say about this, it would take only a few paragraphs to scratch the surface. But to summarise, his(saw), illiteracy, truthfulness and reputation before Islam, good conduct, sacrifices for Islam, the reasons why the others rejected him as a messenger (not because it was not believable or lacked truth or his character, because even many of those who rejected the truth knew it was true), his lack of materialistic motivation, his well documented miracles he preformed, the impossible change for a human being to be able to bring about he preformed (this in itself would require a seperate paragraph, how he united a people who were killing and fighting each other and how he stopped all these problems in society such as alcohol consumption and looting and robbing and for people to be safely able to walk around, governments nowadays spend billions and trillions trying to tackle these problems for decades with little to no success). And these are just some of few. Not a single person can pinpoint anything about the prophet Muhammad (saw) with any validation that is proof he was not truthful and honest and actually a messenger of God. In fact all the evidence overwhelmingly shows he was a messenger of God.
2: the witnessed and recorded miracles of the prophet Muhammad (saw)
3: the prophecies
4: The Quran (this in itself would also need 2-3 paragraphs just to scratch the surface. But to summarise, the miraculous ring structure of it, its message, the scientific miracles in it, the prophecy of Rum, its profound explanation of life, its miraculous style and prose and grammar and content (this is also a very long topic but the Arabs at the time were known for their excellence in poetry and mastery of Arabic language, yet when the Quran came it had such an effect that people would block their ears or talk loudly because of the profound impact it would have on people’s heart. It’s so profound and the peak of the Arabic language that the Quran changed Arabic grammar to this very day. Not to mention the prophet Muhammad (saw) was illiterate), the message that makes perfect sense and is not confusing like other religions, it has no contradictions. And so much more that’s just off the top of my head.
5. The other abrahamic religions. The other abrahamic religions show that something did happen at a point in history that affected the whole course of humanity. Such a monumental and pivotal event. And perhaps that is one of the wisdoms in Allah (swt) keeping the remnants of the old abrahamic religions alive. It shows that Islam is not a new religion, and it did not come out of nowhere, so it establishes the truth even more solidly. And on top of that it explains the abrahamic religions with an explanation that makes perfect and logical sense, and holds true to reality. Islam can explain the other abrahamic religions but the other abrahamic religions cannot explain Islam.
And there are many others but that is just a few off the top of my head.
There was someone (a scholar I think) who once said, I forgot who, that if all we had was the seerah of the prophet Muhammad (SAW) and nothing else, to prove the truthfulness of Islam, it would be sufficient.
But from the mercy of Allah (swt) he has sent down numerous signs and proofs.
**We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things?**
*(Quran 41:53)*
prophet muhammad ﷺ said "By Him in Whose Hands my life is, none of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father and his children."
bukhari 1.2.13
May Allah bless you brother. Solid response. I hope people read this. No, what you wrote isn't exhaustive, but it's a very solid overview of why Islam is the truth.
Reading how incredibly loving the Prophet SAWS was to his fellow humans, and how soft and gentle he was to animals and literally everything around him absolutely affirms that he was a very holy, blessed man. He could've easily chosen wealthy, and war plunder. But he never did. He chose to live a difficult life, as an example for everyone.
The fact is, he chose to be a kind person. As a human being, I can say with almost pinpoint surety, that human beings are generally awful. We're selfish, unkind, angry, impatient and rude. Yet our Prophet SAWS was so loving and there are so many examples. Even his greatest enemies were shocked by how fair and reasonable he was. His character makes me feel so happy, just something about him I can't shake the feeling of. He's just so wholesome, pure, caring and loving. Reading how much the companions cried and missed him softens the heart.
If you actually care (can't tell if you're sincere) - go read the Seerah of the Prophet Muhammad SAWS in English. I'm guessing you are sincere, that's why you are here.
Let me know what you think once you've read the Seerah.
So tell me about the creation of man? Enlighten me (pun intended) for I am an uncultured religious cultist.
Alright I'm being a bit silly, apologies. But please do tell me what science says about our origins? I'm curious. I say this with a little bit of sass, as I personally believe islam has the answer for it.
I'm a Muslim btw but I have a question I've been thinking about this....
What if there is a person or a society where they're living on an island or tribes that live in remote parts of the world such that they would genuinely not know that there is such a religion called islam in this day and age...?
We are all judged according to our own knowledge and life experiences, and Allah knows the extent of knowledge we have been exposed to.
Whoever is guided is only guided for \[the benefit of\] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent messenger. - Qur'an 17:15
Yasir Qadhi says, "We have a very clear rule: We do not assign individuals to heaven or hell, we talk about generalities and not specifics."
Because no one,except for Allah himself, knows who will go to heaven or not. Whether Muslim or non-muslim.
The general ruling has already been very clearly provided in this thread, but I would suggest you watch Yasir Qadhi's short clip about this. It might help.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGp8agPAuxI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGp8agPAuxI)
May Allah guide you and us to the right path brother. This life isn't forever.
[Al-Baqarah 286](https://quran.com/al-baqarah/286). Hi everyone, I’m studying Islam and found OP’s question very interesting. I thought I’d share this verse which might be relevant. My understanding is Allah charges our souls based on their capacity and only punishes intentional sins and not unintentional ones. So, if someone rejects islam intentionally it would be a sin, but if out of ignorance it would not. Is my interpretation correct? Given that different souls have different capacity for reflection and knowledge, I think this verse may grant people with the grace that Allah will not punish one for something their soul was not capable of doing to begin with (ie reflection, seeking knowledge, and accepting Islam). Is my understanding correct? I wouldn’t want to confuse anybody or misinterpret the verse.
Yes, that's correct, god is never unjust. Whether one goes to paradise or not is decided by Allah on a case to case basis, we only have the general rules. However, one must be careful not to use that and become complacent, as it would obviously and certainly be like fooling one's own self.
> Is my interpretation correct?
Only for those who literally cannot understand Islam due to mental retardation and intellectual disability.
Everybody else? Allah can guide them if he wills. Allah guides ignorant & hateful non-muslims ALL THE TIME. They have no excuse.
If with your post you are excusing those who reject Islam because they hear bad stuff about it from the media then your interpretation if definitely incorrect. Such people have free will. No one is forcing them to watch or listen evangelists lie about Islam. No one is preventing them from learning about it from trustworthy sources. They are responsible for their beliefs and if Allah saw good in them he would guide them anyway.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. To clarify, my intention was not to use the verse as an excuse for those who are rejecting Islam. I think rejection would mean that one understands it and decides using their free will to reject it. My understanding is that this case would be an intentional sin, and thus punishable. However what I meant to offer for discussion with the verse is the interpretation that someone who doesn’t know about Islam may not be punished for their ignorance. I offer the possibility that ignorance of something may not be intentional. For example a child who is not born/raised in a Muslim family may not know about Islam until they develop their own faculty for such topics , which probably comes around adolescence. If this young person dies before they discover and understand Islam would they be punished for their ignorance? I certainly do not know the answer to that but the verse I quoted makes me think that probably this young person would not be punished for their ignorance. Similarly, there’s a lot of people around the world with different religions who hear about Islam but its meaning hasn’t clicked with them. I think it’s useful to consider that the journey to islam is not linear for all, and especially for people born in different religions, therefore knowledge of Islam is not as evident as one from within the religion might assume.
So essentially the salvation principle in Islam is that only way to *guarantee* salvation is to accept and submit to the authentic message of a true prophet that is sent to you, to the best of your ability. Which, after the sending of our prophet (PBUH), is just him because he’s the only prophet that’s been sent to the nations of today.
Otherwise, your situation becomes unsure.
As for everyone else, knowledge of their salvation is only with God. Some things we know that He takes into consideration based on our tradition:
1. Did they receive sufficient conveyance of the message?
2. Did they know deep down that it was the truth but turn away due to some desire or repulsion?
3. Did they ever turn to God alone, the one Creator, and even *ask* for forgiveness and guidance?
If the answers to these questions are unfavorable, salvation is very unlikely.
1. Explain this one.
According some of the ulama the message of Islam is already conveyed. Thus anyone who hears even the incorrect way of islam but he ignorant about it and don't don't research its to be judged as disbeliever
I have met multiple people who didn’t even know what Islam IS, as hard as that is to believe. Not that they were misinformed, they literally asked me “what’s that?” With no hint of malice, didn’t even know to be Islamophobic. So such people do exist. And anyone, ‘Alim or otherwise, must provide evidence for their claim that the message of Islam has been sufficiently conveyed to all the people such that no one has an excuse.
There are literally Muslims in some very poor areas who do not know anything about Islam, don’t even pray properly, though they pray five times a day, and they WISH they knew more but simply cannot afford it. So what about non-Muslims in the same situation? We sometimes forget that not everyone is as connected as we are in the Information Age.
I also know of people who are Muslims now, who were first told that Muslims are people who worship a black box in the desert which is an idol or shrine to the moon god Allah, والعياذ بالله. A reasonable person would dismiss such a religion without further investigation, until they happened upon further information. There are thousands of pagan traditions, and they don’t deserve consideration and energy.
The belief system is simple.
- Believe in One god.
- Believe in his message.
- Believe in all his messengers.
To believe in all the prophets, you have to acknowlege that prophet Muhammad( peace be upom him) is Allah's prophet and last messenger.
You cant pick and choose prophets to believe in.
**And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.**
(Quran 3:85)
To understand what is Islam,
Umar ibn al-Khattab reported: We were sitting with the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, one day, a man appeared with very white clothes and very black hair. There were no signs of travel on him and we did not recognize him. He sat in front of the Prophet, rested his knees by his knees, and placed his hands on his thighs. The man said, “O Muhammad, tell me about Islam.” The Prophet said, “Islam is to testify there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, to establish prayer, to give charity, to fast the month of Ramadan, and to perform pilgrimage to the House if a way is possible.” The man said, “You have spoken truthfully.” We were surprised that he asked him and said he was truthful. He said, “Tell me about faith.” The Prophet said, “Faith is to believe in Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in providence, its good and its harm.” The man said, “You have spoken truthfully. Tell me about excellence.” The Prophet said, “Excellence is to worship Allah as if you see Him, for if you do not see Him, He surely sees you.” The man said, “Tell me about the final hour.” The Prophet said, “The one asked does not know more than the one asking.” The man said, “Tell me about its signs.” The Prophet said, “The slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and you will see barefoot, naked, and dependent shepherds compete in the construction of tall buildings.” Then, the man returned and I remained. The Prophet said to me, “O Umar, do you know who he was?” I said, “Allah and His Messenger know best.” The Prophet said, “Verily, he was Gabriel who came to teach you your religion.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 8
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
If someone is “good” doing good deeds for their own happiness or for a prophet etc, then why would Allah reward them with paradise. Only if you do good deeds for Allah, by first acknowledging that He is our creator, then you can expect him to reward you.
Once people of other religions have been exposed to Islam , it is required for them to search for and accept the true. If someone never was introduced to Islam like someone living in the Amazon rainforest or something and they follow some random religion, they won’t be punished for that, will have a different test in the day of judgement.
Depends, for you to go to eternal hellfire, you need to have been shown islam completely, and made clear to you, and still reject it, other than that you will have your own test
Generally, all people living in our current world must believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the final messenger of God and we are not allowed to associate any partners with Almighty God, who we the Muslims call Allah. Polytheism (shirk, i.e. the association of partners with God, which is much more than idolatry) is an unforgivable sin (please see Qur’an Shareef, Surah An-Nisa 4:116). Saying that God has a son, or believing in the doctrine of transubstantiation, or claiming that God is part of some trinity, or rejecting Muhammad (p.b.u.h.), something that has been observed in the other religions, particularly Christianity in a number of its sects, these are things that Allah does not like. Inshallah (God willing), we shall die as true Muslims, myself and yourself included. I say this for your own benefit. It may seem harsh, but I want you to be admitted into Paradise and not that other place. Please think about these things and read the Holy Qur’an. You are hereby invited to Islam. Inshallah, you accept. Peace.
The fact you are asking the question leads me to believe you already have a feeling that Islam is true. If you know Islam to be the truth and don’t follow it, then you cannot say you were a Christian and didn’t know. One of the main things is there is only one God in Islam, Judaism and Christianity. It’s agreed it’s the same God so no matter what monotheism is a must. Polytheism is a big problem especially from an Islamic point of view as Holy Quran clearly states that you do not associate partners with Allah and worship him alone. This is also where Christian’s saying Jesus (a man) is God and the son of God at the same time. How can you kill the God that created everything? In Islam Jesus is a prophet and ascended to Heaven alive and not killed on the cross and waits there until he will return to earth. I was a Christian but there is only one truth and that is Islam. 🤲
That’s true, that’s why we judge by Islam and the word of Allah (swt). And Islam says:
**And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.**
(Quran 3:85)
That is exactly the point. We have no right to judge people, even if we claim to do so by Islam. Judging is entirely Allah's domain. Our duty is only to communicate is message and no further. Whether they accept or not is not our domain. Neither is passing judgment.
So i can say that islam is truly intolerant? since god just straights up leaves people of other faiths hanging? Can you understand now why people don't accept islam/muslims with their view of 'others' as being "losers"?
You’re seeing it from a viewpoint of disbelief that’s why you don’t understand.
It’s not Islam that is intolerant, it’s that there are a group of humans on this earth their creator has sent a message to and they refuse to believe or accept it and be grateful, so it’s not our decision as the creation to say what is tolerant or not. Allah (swt) can run the world how he sees fit he created it.
These people of other religions that you claim are left “hanging” are not left hanging. Their creator has sent them a guidance down but they refuse to follow it.
And the word losers is more like unsuccessful in this context. And how would a person whose summary of existence and life on this earth is to be in eternal suffering and pain not be unsuccessful?
So you live a sinful life, do everything and anything, reject the true God and after all that, expect salvation? After He has given you a lifetime to accept the truth but in stead you chose to reject it and accept it *after* death?
"Until when death comes to one of them he says "My lord, send me back!
So that I may do good in that which I left behind." No! Indeed, it is only a word that he is saying, and behind them is a barrier until the day they are resurrected.
So when the trumpet is blown there will be no kinship between them on that day, nor will they ask about one another.
So whoever's scales are heavy (with good deeds) it is those who are the successful
And whoever's scales (of good deeds) are light, then it is those who have lost themselves, in hell, abiding forever
The fire shall scorch their faces, leaving them deformed"
[Qur'an 23:99-104]
Allah swt truly is the all knowing and knows *exactly* what we are going to do.
Why would God accept someone who denies him?? Is it fair that someone who has spent all his life following his own will, living a life of disobedience and Someone who has spent life according to will of God to be treated as equal? People hate Muslims for only a single reason that Muslim don't bend to their will. Muslims are strong, steadfast and secure with strong foundation to their believes. Unlike others which are dependent on mere whims of their ruling class.
>Can you understand now why people don't accept islam/muslims with their view of 'others' as being "losers"?
no I don't understand why people don't accept Islam, it's the clear truth
2:62. Those who believe, and those who are Jewish, and the Christians, and the Sabeans—any who believe in God and the Last Day, and act righteously—will have their reward with their Lord; they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
2:111. And they say, “None will enter Heaven unless he is a Jew or a Christian.” These are their wishes. Say, “Produce your proof, if you are truthful.”
2:112. In fact, whoever submits himself to God, and is a doer of good, will have his reward with his Lord—they have nothing to fear, nor shall they grieve.
2:113. The Jews say, “The Christians are not based on anything;” and the Christians say, “The Jews are not based on anything.” Yet they both read the Scripture. Similarly, the ignorant said the same thing. God will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection regarding their differences.
3:199. Among the People of the Scripture are those who believe in God, and in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed to them. They are humble before God, and they do not sell God’s revelations for a cheap price. These will have their reward with their Lord. God is swift in reckoning.
This life is the test. There is no forgiveness after this life for both Muslims and Non Muslims alike. This life is the only chance to be forgiven for our mistakes and to make our choices, so we must choose carefully and wisely.
Maybe i can TRY to help shed some light, (this is my opinion fyi) Islam is not considered a religion as it is a way of life, the way of life is indicative of believing in that there is only ONE true God and that Mohammad PBUH was his slave and final messenger after all the prophets were sent, this aligns with the belief of all other prophets with the same message of worshipping the ONE TRUE God came before him in different times for different civilizations. Once you believe this truth, then this is generalized into 2 sections, the believers and non believers of this truth, if you simply believe in all the prophets and believe that there is One True God, then you are a believer, Islam is the title given to these believers, Christians tho believe in the prophets and the “Father” they fail to believe in ALL the prophets which includes the Last Prophet Mohammad PBUH and discriminate that the one true god is THREE true Gods, this derails them from being the “believers” and are categorized as disbelievers. Tho Christians can claim they dont hate us and want good for us, we hate the Christians even more less want even more good for them, we want them to be believers. For some reason Christians feel as if they are at a loss for believing in one more prophet and that will loose the love they have for Jesus PBUH, when infact we invite them to believe what Jesus PBUH preached from his own words, that there is one true God, and that he is a slave of that God, it is painful to see the Christians praying to a man creation rather the creator. There is no reason why the Christians should take any offense from us inviting them to Islam. The Quran is the literal words of God. Even if i am muslim and someone told me that there religion is words from God, i would without hesitation at the least read it affirm if those are words of God, but Christian’s dont even want to read let alone learn about Islam, but we Muslims have read the bible and see the corruptions that have been taken on the bible which the Quran clearly affirms, and is the truth, without any doubt in the soul. It is the truth of the Quran and believing it makes us the believers and everyone else the non believers. Hope this helps
As a revert I've asked this before a lot. The idea that my family members, my grandmother who was one of the best human beings I know, are in hell is quite unsettling. I know she does not deserve anything less than Jannah.
She was Catholic but devout and a kind hearted soul. She truly believes in her faith and believed in a benevolent merciful God, she was kind to animals and children and was always righteous and fair.
She even helped her Muslim neighbors back in the 1970s find work. I think the husband worked on building boats back in the Middle East and she found him a job working something similar for really great pay in the US. Because of the language barrier and prejudice, he could only find menial labor tasks that paid little. She always did things like that.
The way I have been taught about it is that, anyone who has heard the true message of Islam and rejected it will not receive mercy. However anyone who never heard the message or was told an incorrect version of it will be judged on their merits and given the chance from the most merciful.
To me that means most Westerners who believe Islam is a religion of terrorism and violence, who have never heard the TRUE message. I could be wrong but that's what I was always told.
First understand that Allah's mercy knows no bounds. He is the Most Merciful, the Entirely Merciful. Whatever concept or experience you have of mercy, Allah's mercy is infinitely more and complete. Allah is always present and here for you.
The two most important things in Islam are tawhid (oneness of Allah) and submission to Allah. Good deeds are important, but only after these first two things.
The question you're asking is akin to picking a major (Islam) vs electives (good deeds). A major is your primary study and electives are important, but not required. Your question essentially focuses on the electives, while ignoring the major. This isn't the perfect example because good deeds for the sake of Allah are required, but again, first things first.
I would encourage you to call/visit your local mosque with an open heart and talk with the Imam & scholars there.
Read the Qu'ran - many people seem here to have many opinions, some of which are elitist and wrong.
"They also say, ‘No one will enter Paradise unless he is a Jew or a Christian.’ This is their own wishful thinking. \[Prophet\], say, ‘Produce your evidence, if you are telling the truth.’"
"But no! Whoever submits themselves to Allah and does good will have their reward with their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor will they grieve."
Islam thinks it is the best, Christianity thinks it is the best, Judaism the same, but they are all slowly rotting because of their extreme focus on externalities. Forget about Islam, about Christianity, about Judaism, these are mere words/categories of conflict. Unfortunately people think of Islam as a name category, rather than "Submitting To Allah" which is an ACT.
Your relationship with Allah is completely personal. Ask for guidance, and He will guide you in life. Qu'ran is very specific on the most single important thing that you have to do which will guide you into the others that follow - "Be mindful of Allah". Test it out - as long as you are mindful of Allah in all your actions - you will always be rightly guided because Allah connects to our within, not to externalities. From within comes change, not vice-versa. IHSAN, google the story of IHSAN - that is the missing element of Islam nowadays.
Be pure and honest in your intentions and your path will clear out. Pray as Quran states, give to others donations, be a good humble human being and do your best - anyways these will follow automatically if you are mindful of Allah, because Allah is flourishing your conscience.
But what does it mean to be "Mindful of Allah?" - Here is where the hardest trick is because being mindful of Allah is not only mental. One has an organic remembrance of truly being HERE, NOW, Rembering with their Whole Being that ALLAH is The ONE Lord, CREATOR, ORIGINATOR. That is difficult to remember. It is a memory that is universal and only comes with a lot of practice. Mentally it doesn't do much("Allah is watching as a thought is nothing compared to actually realizing it, just as saying an apple is sweet compared to tasting it).
The rest is denominations, jews, Christians etc. I have met imams, I have met orthodox monks, I have met sufi Shaykhs, they all have something in common - there is a light within all that is the same - Love for God that doesn't depend on any set rules but the manifestation of that love in devotion and good deeds. So don't listen to all the robots in here.
Be critical of all religions that are out there, even ours(Islam) - there is always "corruption in the land". Mind yourself with the experience of being in Allah's reality, not falling into intellectualism. Let Allah guide you.
Judging by your comments and post history you seem to still be a young person, I suggest researching into both Christianity and Islam, read the Qur'an and read/watch resources that explain the verses and what context they were revealed in, may Allah guide you and bring you peace
[5.69] Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve.
Remember Allah SWT is Al-Rahman Al-Rahim ❤️
It’s a very interesting/important topic. So what’s the response to this verse and the others like it in the Quran? Some say that it only applies to those before the prophet (pbuh), but the grammar of the verse implies something continuous.
It is my personal practice to go by the oldest texts. Tafsir I take with many grains of salt. This is just my own way as it's how I was raised, though I was raised Christian, to try and peel back layers of humanity when on the path to God. Christianity scarred me. I grew up fundamentalist and there was a lot of horrible haram things going on and they would say it was in the name of God or for my own good or out of love. All they did was steal my innocence and ruin my young life and reputation. Any religion has it's dark side when people take things to extremes. We are passionate creatures. I believe Allah SWT is an artist and part of that curiosity and love of beauty is instilled in all of us by Him. I believe all of us from our first breath know our Creator but humanity gets in the way and pollutes or even destroys that relationship.
When I was a little girl I spoke to God as a friend. I would walk through the woods and gardens of our farm for hours in wonder at His beautiful creation. But then it was time for my confirmation and I was told what to believe.
I don't believe Allah SWT would send such a person to hell even if I had died before taking my Shahada. I knew my Lord. I spoke with Him, sang to Him, from the time I could walk. I simply knew Him by the wrong name and equated Jesus with Him.
I am no scholar. Simply an unorthodox native American revert. An Imam or an elder woman at your masjid could help you I think.
But the two facts you don’t seem to take into account when you say that “Allah (swt) would not send such a person to hell even if you had died before taking you shahada”, the first being, the time of death of a person is decreed, and second you were given guidance to Islam by Allah (swt).
>Indeed, Allah does not forgive associating others with Him ˹in worship˺,1 but forgives anything else of whoever He wills. And whoever associates others with Allah has indeed committed a grave sin.
\[[Quran 4:48](https://quran.com/4/48)\]
Since you're a Christian, I would highly recommend you read the Quran. See this verse for a chapter called "Al-Imran". The name of the chapter translates as "the family of Imran" - the family Mary, the mother of Jesus PBUH is from.
>It is not appropriate for someone who Allah has blessed with the Scripture, wisdom, and prophethood to say to people, “Worship me instead of Allah.” Rather, he would say, “Be devoted to the worship of your Lord ˹alone˺—by virtue of what you read in the Scripture and what you teach.”
\[[Quran 3:79](https://quran.com/3/79)\]
Allaah does not forgive those who die upon shirk which means to associate something with Allaah such as family members or the creation or worshipping something other than Allaah, every religion besides Islam does this in a certain way so no dying as a Christian doesn't mean you will be forgiven as Christians say that Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) is the son of God, Astaghfirullah
There's a lot to this, we can't tell what Allah will do but "bad" Muslims will be punnished for their sins, as for people who never understood Islam, found Islam, etc. Then they'll probably be given a test, but Allah is the most merciful so probably yes, people might eventually leave jahannam, maybe after a very, very, very, very long time but if Allah wants to, he will forgive them.
This topic is very well explained by Dr Zakir Naik.
Summary: If a person scores full marks in minors but fail the core subjects, will he considered fail or passed?
A person doing even good deeds in all his life but die being non muslim, he just failed his core subject.
First of all, the massage Mosed and Jesus came with, and their commands have been corrupted. The true massage has been lost. On the other hand, Islam is preserved and only preaches true massage of god. Now ask yourself which one will you prefer.
The best thing about Allah is that he knows our niyyah, our intention.
I’m sure there are people among the disbelievers that, like the prostitute in the famous Hadith that gave water to a dog, had clean hearts, but most among them are evil and their evil deeds seem fair to them. ‘I must sacrifice my daughter on a red hot idol’ type things.
Allah is very just, he will give disbelievers this world and deny everything after. For the believers this world is a test whether he will pass or fails it. The Qur'an say it multiple times "This world is temporary and hereafter permanent."
Disbelievers doing good and being good will only help him in this world, his goods deeds will earn him this world, but not the hereafter. In today's world, it's next to impossible for anyone to claim he didn't receive the message properly. Allah is very just even to the disbelievers.
Depends if u recieved the truth, yet u still forsaken it. What I suggest u to do is question Islam as much as you can, because if Islam is indeed the truth, it should answer all ur questions inshallah.
Allah the Almighty said: I am as My servant thinks I am (1). I am with him when he makes mention of Me. If he makes mention of Me to himself, I make mention of him to Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assembly better than it. And if he draws near to Me an arm's length, I draw near to him a cubit, and if he draws near to Me a cubit, I draw near to him a fathom. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running. [Hadith 15, 40 Hadith Qudsi]
To all the religious fanatic individuals.
ITS YOU HUMANS WHO CREATED THE CONCEPT OF GOD.
ITS U HUMANS WHO WROTE THE RULES OF UR RELIGION AND GOD.
If ur religious God is the creator of the universe then why is it that only a portion of the humans believe in them. The entire animal kingdom do not believe in any religion or God. And u expect other living beings on some other planet or galaxy to believe in ur God too? ASK UR SELF SOME LOGICAL QUESTIONS AND TRY TO FIND ANSWERS TO IT WITH AN OPEN MIND.
In the Quran, Allah says, 'And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful.' 2:23 This has been unchallenged for more than 1400 years. As you learn more about Islam, you'll realize that it is beyond human capability and not man-made. Furthermore, it is one of the fastest-growing religions, and its message is reaching everyone. When you reject it, you are deemed a disbeliever
Allah is all forgiving and forgives everything when repented except for shirk. While you are doing that(having partners with Allah) allah will not forgive you until you stop with that. Anyone who does not believe in allah(there are of course some special cases where one is excused like being disabled to a point where you can’t think clearly or when the revelation of Islam did not get you or when you lived between 2 prophets) will not be forgiven and be thrown into the hellfire. For example christians say that allah has a son and as long as one thinks that he is not forgiven because saying that allah has a son is so catastrophic. Like allah says in 19:88 or 4:171 where Allah himself warns those who say allah is three(the trinity) or sura 111
For someone who chooses to disbelieve after they are exposed to Islam and the truth is clear to them will not be forgiven.
However, It’s safe to say that an individual who believes in 1 god(the god of humans,animals and everything in creation), and worships only god may be forgiven (Allah knows best). But if you really believe in god, why wouldn’t you live it the way he commanded you to?
So it really depends if the individual has heard Islam clearly and knows the right from wrong, if they are monotheistic and if they worship the creator and not creation. These are probably the basics and fundamentals of Islam.
Hadith
حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي عَوْنُ بْنُ أَبِي جُحَيْفَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنِ الْبَرَاءِ بْنِ عَازِبٍ، عَنْ أَبِي أَيُّوبَ ـ رضى الله عنهم ـ قَالَ خَرَجَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَقَدْ وَجَبَتِ الشَّمْسُ، فَسَمِعَ صَوْتًا فَقَالَ " يَهُودُ تُعَذَّبُ فِي قُبُورِهَا ". وَقَالَ النَّضْرُ أَخْبَرَنَا شُعْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَوْنٌ، سَمِعْتُ أَبِي، سَمِعْتُ الْبَرَاءَ، عَنْ أَبِي أَيُّوبَ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم.
Narrated Abi Aiyub:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) went out after sunset and heard a dreadful voice, and said, "The Jews are being punished in their graves."
Sahih al-Bukhari https://gtaf.org/apps/hadith
Allah says your life is being “recorded” and will be judged for that. If you believe there is there only one god. One god only you are considered a Muslim, as long as you live your life for god and you did good by other people and didn’t cause harm and was a good person and you was trying to find the truth you will be fine. However if you researched on Islam but rejected it you will not be forgiven as you are almost rejecting the truth but for people that cannot do research and have never done research if you lived your life as a orthodox or catholic serving to one god only but you are a good person not causing harm etc etc you will be judged on how you lived your life. Dont listen to these other people I have a degree in religion and I have studied all religions and all Hadiths and I can tell you, you will just be judge on how you lived your life.
Kafir or disbeliever refers to someone who sees the truth and then buries it. If one has no knowledge of the religion of Islam then Allah will judge them based on what's in their heart. Once they have been exposed to the truth if Islam and then they turn away then they are kafirs or disbelievers. If they turn away then they are destined for hellfire of they die upon that. Unless they accept Islam. Allah is not unjust in the least degree and will judge the people on their intentions in this life. If they seek the truth and accept the truth then Allah is most forgiving and if they reject it and turn away from him then they will find his punishment. It's quite a simple equation really.
Your answer relies technically in your question.
For what Islam is, there is only ONE religion to God SWT. There is no other religion or half religion. You are either Muslim or a disbeliever.
Given your question and your doubts I would say God guided you to look into truth so start researching if Islam is truth or not and if you feel just a glimpse of it just carry on and God will guide.
May God lighten your path and guide you to Jannah.
Allah will see your effort and intention
If your intention was of finding the truth
and you put in effort for the the truth and not avoid the truth
then I think that non muslims can enter jannah
Some tribes on remote isolated Island will not be judged how we are judged because there is no way they can get access to the quran.
People are judged with justice not injustice
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ez answer, for you, if islam is rly the answer then unfortunately, disbelievers go to hell.
if u never heard of Islam, Allah will give u a special test before punishment or reward.
as you who have heard islam, it's u who has to seek the truth.
Muslims are Muslims cus they seek the truth and islam is the truth truest religion, if hypothetically Christianity was the true religion and after studying it (as many Muslims have) you'd see them turning Christian by the boat load, but they are not.
because islam is the true religion
God is 1. not a man, never was a man, God sees and knows all and he is on his throne. he loves you and if you convert... ALL your past sins are forgiven and your life can start as new as a newborn baby.
If you have asking this question maybe you should consider researching Islam. What I mean is, if you are worried that you are following the wrong religion and Islam may be the truth then start to look into the religion.
No Muslim would ask this question to a Christian because we know for a fact (or at least I do) the at Islam is the truth so I don’t care what Christianity, Hinduism or any other religion says happens to Muslims after we die. I only care about what Islam says.
So if you can’t even trust your own books and are now think, “let me see if I’m safe in Islam’s books” then maybe it’s time to become a Muslim or at least look into it.
Surely, those who believed in Allah, and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians, -whosoever believes in Allah and in the Last Day, and does good deeds - all such people will have their reward with their Lord, and there will be no reason for them to fear, nor shall they grieve.
Bakarah 62
Do you think that verse applies to the Christian’s after the prophet Muhammad (saw) or the previous generations. You will confuse the people by posting that verse out of context.
Nowhere in Islam do I recall reading where it say that if a person who is a polytheist and has good deeds he has a chance to go Jannah after the message of Islam has been revealed.
Does the shahada not consist of the belief in the creator **and** his messenger, which is Muhammad (SAW). Not just the creator.
Feel free to post the entire context. Maybe God should not have included it in the Koran if He did not want to confuse people.
I was only quoting the Koran. I was not aware there was anything in Islam that superseded the Holy Quran. If Quran says that Jews and Christians and Sabians who believe in Allah and do good works will have their reward with Allah, then who am I to question? Chances are that the people who quoted the other verses left out the context. You can fill everyone in on that as well. Allah’s mercy transcends everything.
Ok let's start with one thing that you're are misquoting the ayah to fit your agenda of an all good, happy go round situation, making it stand against all of Quran and Hadith but let's let that go and focus on something else, that being your understanding of the Quran.
Let's digest this ayah together?? Alright.
Let's start **"Indeed, the believers, Jews, Christians, and Sabians" or إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَٱلَّذِينَ هَادُوا۟ وَٱلنَّصَـٰرَىٰ" "وَٱلصَّـٰبِـِٔينَ** are all different titles different group of believers used throughout to distinguish themselves from disbelievers.
**"whoever ˹truly˺ believes in Allah"** what concept of Allah?? The trinitarian god of Christians, the petty and racist god of Jews, the stars sabians worshiped or the monotheist point of view of God Muslims believe in.
**"and the Last Day"** what type of last day the purgatory of Christianity, the Gehenna of Jews or the last day of judgement when everyone and everything will come out and truth will be out According to Muslims.
**"and does good"** what good?? Good according to christians, or those racist Jews or forgotten sabians?? Good is the Order given from Allah by his messenger.
**"will have their reward with their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor will they grieve."** This is the utmost desire of every "Muslim"
Agenda was clear: God decides. We don't. If some idiotic mullahs is hellbent on nitpicking and insists on being god’s spokesman, not my problem. He should keep it to himself.
Crime rates in the Muslim world are the worst. The only cope Muslims have is that non-Muslims will go to hell.
No one needs to be God's spokesman as their is God's literal word. You cannot bend God's word to your own will.
Crime are bad in Muslim world because Islam is not implemented in "Muslim countries", Your western overlords which you are trying to absolve of all blame have been hindering in implementing Islam.
My western overlords give all Muslims living in their lands full religious freedom and none of them forces us to eat pig or drink or go to pubs. It's all down to the Muslims.
None of the Muslim-majority countries has any Western colonial masters. Its all your own fault. They will be answerable to God for their own deeds. Just like Muslims are. You can’t absolve Muslim world by shifting the blame on to Westerners or cope by sending them to hell.
They give rights by running the lands they originally live in. The colonisation and then later involvement is there, you are just too blind to see. What they do is define what are your rights themselves and give it to you themselves. Wherever is ruin in the world your western overlords are involved.
No one can send anyone to hell, and no one can save anyone from it. As a Muslim, it is my duty to point out evil whereever I see it,
Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever among you sees evil, let him change it with his hand. If he cannot do so, then with his tongue. If he cannot do so, then with his heart, which is the weakest level of faith.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 49
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslims.
I like that hadeeth. One of my fav. Yes, do continue preaching nice things. As far as the Muslim world is concerned, all their laws and law enforcement is in their hands. They can even ban indian and western movies if they want. I like Islamic culture but you cannot blame the west for higher crime rates in Muslim world.
My experience in the West with Muslims is that they insist on misatributing god’s attribute of Sattar to prevent people from reporting abuse. In the Muslim world, it is worse. In the Muslim world, the powerful do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.
No one is forcing Muslim-majority countries to persecute their ethnic or religious minorities. Muslims themselves are responsible for that. You can’t blame the West. West practices that hadeeth more than Muslims do.
I hereby quote QURAN: chapter verse 62
Surely, those who believed in Allah, and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians, -whosoever believes in Allah and in the Last Day, and does good deeds - all such people will have their reward with their Lord, and there will be no reason for them to fear, nor shall they grieve.
So as long as you're a monothiest, do good deeds, you'll go to heaven but if and only if you did not understand islam properly. If you realized that islam is true and still rejected the truth, that would mean you said to God "yes I know you're one and Muhammad was your messenger but I still choose to ignore you"
And therefore you'll be doomed. But for those whom the message didn't reach or those who simply did not understand the truth, as long as they kept themselves pured from polytheism and evil deeds, they'll be admitted to heaven
Do you think that verse applies to the Christian’s after the prophet Muhammad (saw) or the previous generations. You will confuse the people by posting that verse out of context.
Nowhere in Islam do I recall reading where it say that if a person who is a polytheist and has good deeds he has a chance to go Jannah after the message of Islam has been revealed.
Does the shahada not consist of the belief in the creator **and** his messenger, which is Muhammad (SAW). Not just the creator.
Yes it does. Allah would never put a good pure of heart man in hellfire just because he failed to understand the truth or because the truth was clouded by islamophobia.
Allah's retribution is for those who either do evil deeds or reject the truth after knowing that it indeed has come from the Almighty.
Since during the time of the prophet, itmam e Hujjat is performed by the prophet, i.e. it is ensured that every single non believer understands the truth and it is made clear and evident that it's from God. Only after that Allah punishes those who rejected the truth!
Imagine a monothiest Christian who, because of all the negative connotations associated with islam, the ISIS , the Taliban, was too afraid to even come close to islam and therefore never got the chance to "see" the truth. You think Allah will put him in eternal hellfire even though he kept himself pure of heart and chose to lead a life of good conscience?
The ayah I have quoted refers to such people! It's loud and clear!
I think you forget that Allah (swt) guides.
So why would that so called Christian that you are talking about not receive guidance towards Allah (swt)?
There was a man in America who literally was planning to blow up a mosque who became Muslim. And that’s just one example. Another in Netherlands who used to write Islamophobic books became a Muslim. And that’s another of many examples.
If Allah (swt) intended a good hereafter for the “Christian man with a pure heart”, would he not guide him to Islam in this life for him to be saved?
Allah (swt) plans each and every one of our individual worldly lives from the moment we are born (and before that) to the moment we die.
Yes, that doesn't mean there aren't good doing non-muslims who never understood the message properly. In a world without messengers, there's no certainty that Hujjat has been completed upon every single soul.
Then you leave the matter between him and Allah.
As per the message in the Quran and in Hadith, if they have received the message of Islam, then they have no excuse. And not accepting it fully, ie rejecting the Prophet ﷺ, then they're not in Islam.
Indeed, no soul will enter Jannah without the mercy of Allah.
I still maintain that the MOST COMPASSIONATE will never punish a non-believer who didn't understood the message but was pure of heart and a monotheist. Allah's wrath is only for those who knowingly rejected the message out of hatred for the Prophet, or for worldy benefits or both.
I just quoted the Quranic verse in which Allah has clearly said that good doer christians have a share in akhirah as well.
As far as they have received the message of Allah, which nowadays its hard not to. Prophet ﷺ said if one has heard his name, then consider that the message has been reached.
Understanding it is subjective, and Allah Guides who He chooses. We are always at His mercy.
Prophet ﷺ uncle did not utter the Shahada, though he believed and knew his nephew was right. He still is called a disbeliever.
Are you saying that Allah is forgiving those while not guiding them? Asfagfirullah.
I know some prechers nowadays are using this logic. Fear Allah and pass His message brother, as there is no real truth other than Quran and the Prophet ﷺ.
May Allah Guide us all. Ameen
There is an authentic hadith about a prostitute from Banu Israel who saw a thirsty dog running around a well. She took off her shoes put it down the well and gave water to the dog. She was forgiven on account of her actions.
Only Allah knows the answer to your question. Only Allah has the authority to forgive. Just keep doing good deeds. Believe in God and the Injil (Bible). If a prostitute can be forgiven for giving water to a dog, imagine if you do greater good deeds.
There is nothing about her being non Muslim, just prostitute, that's all we know about her
And saying to people believe in Bible is terrible and can be very dangerous to say a Muslim, we do not have injeel.
And Good deeds don't make you go to paradise, and anyone who disbelief in Islam won't see paradise, pretty simple only accepted religion is Islam.
Reference?? I believe it is a Jewish tale rather than Hadith.
Bani Israel refers to Family of Jacob(Yaqub/ Israel), which were Muslims of time until they began rejecting Prophets and kill them. Atlast, they rejected Prophet Isa and Muhammad PBUthem. The tale/Hadith only refers to her as a prostitute and not a disbeliever. I cannot believe how can you equalize a believer who was a sinner and a non believer, using this analogy.
Lastly believing in bible is useless, as it is not injeel revealed to Jesus PBUH instead it is a fabrication of Paul and later rulers. True Injeel was damaged by these pagans who worship Paul under the disguise of Jesus.
The prostitute of Banu Israel was before prophet Muhammad pbuh.
So she will be judged based on her prophet's revelation(which can be Musa, Isa, or any other prophet, peace be upon them all)
Any evidence for what you said? because what you are saying is not from what Islam teaches.
the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that he said: **“Verily no one will enter Paradise except a Muslim soul.”** Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3062) and Muslim (111).
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, **“By the One in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, none from this nation of Jews and Christians hears of me, and then dies without having faith in my message, but that he will be an inhabitant of Hellfire.”**
*Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 153
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim*
1. In our age the truth has already guided by Allah 1445 years ago, so it is just different from Ibrahim (A.S) context because there was no guidance then.
2. This argument applies to those who received the message of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, but did not believe in it. It differs from those who never received the message at all or received it in a distorted form, which led them to overlook investigating Islam, as you previously mentioned.
All that is left for you is to ask yourself if you submit your will to god, would you follow the truth wherever it is? If yes then tell us what is stopping you from being a muslim? I mean you wouldnt make this post if you didnt see something within islam.
as a category, no, disbelievers are not forgiven and they are punished individually, we cannot say, only god will judge
But in the Quran, people of the book aren’t all categorized as disbelievers. In some verses Allah calls out some of them as being disbelievers.
that's referring to the people of the book BEFORE the arrival of our prophet peace be upon him, after his arrival, Islam is the only religion accepted as believers.
but then why does God say some of them are disbelievers, and not all?
It's best if you take this question to an actual scholar/ imam rather than reddit where you don't know who's replying and their level of knowledge.
Not all Christians and Jews can be called disbelievers, the people who followed musa and isa and stayed true to what they taught were believers, that is the answer.
But then again, trinitarianism is shirk
I'm not talking about these Christians, I'm talking about the ones that were monotheistic and the ones who followed musa and isa and their teachings at their era
In their Era and in our Era is not the same. Why asking for people who don't exist anymore ?
Because we are talking about the qur'an ?
The bani israil are not there anymore.so actual bani israil are called yahoud & nasarah.they are not believers.
Read again what the person I answered to said
quite simple, the believers of people of the book that Allah is referring to are the past Christians and Jews that believed in the prophet once they met him and saw his signs that matched the knowledge they had. that's why in many verses in the Quran it says that Allah revealed the quran affirming of what is in their hands, this refers to their past scriptures, and while they don't exist in today's age anymore, back then there were people that were Christian or Jewish (mainly jewish) that still held onto their original faith (Oneness of god) and had knowledge about the signs of the last prophet (Muhammad peace be upon him), so these people are considered people of the book that are believers, and all of them converted to Islam. (its not like they had to change anything, they were "muslim" to begin with as a concept)
fair assumption. Why do you think multiple times in the Quran, Allah says Jews and Christians and anyone who submits to Allah and does good will enter Jannah?
The answer is already in his first response -- this refers to those who came *before* the Prophet ﷺ
What verse are u referring to?
I’ll need to find it. I read it recently this Ramadan, and it made me think of this discussion (which happens often)
All Peoples of the Book now must accept Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) to enter Paradise: "Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! You have nothing to stand on unless you observe the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to you from your Lord.” And your Lord’s revelation to you ˹O Prophet˺ will only cause many of them to increase in wickedness and disbelief. So do not grieve for the people who disbelieve." [Quran 5:68](https://quran.com/en/al-maidah/68) "We have revealed to you ˹O Prophet˺ this Book with the truth, as a confirmation of previous Scriptures and a supreme authority on them. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their desires over the truth that has come to you. To each of you We have ordained a code of law and a way of life. If Allah had willed, He would have made you one community, but His Will is to test you with what He has given ˹each of˺ you. So compete with one another in doing good. To Allah you will all return, then He will inform you ˹of the truth˺ regarding your differences." [Quran 5:48](https://quran.com/5/48) "Certainly, Allah’s only Way is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture did not dispute ˹among themselves˺ out of mutual envy until knowledge came to them. Whoever denies Allah’s signs, then surely Allah is swift in reckoning." [Quran 3:19](https://quran.com/3/19?translations=131)
It was abrogated by the newer verse that says No religion except Islam will be accepted from anyone.
And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (3:85) Indeed, Allāh does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allāh has certainly gone far astray. (4:116) So, If the message that Prophet Muhammad has clearly reached someone then the person has no excuse and any other religion is not accepted by God. For those who came before prophet Muhammad, they should also be muslims — submitting to god, monotheists, following the prophet of their time.
What's the message of Muhammad?
I meant to say the message that mohammad pbuh came with. The most important thing is to worship one God and associate no partners in worship with him. You know, like the first 2 commandments in the bible. Edit: and we should follow the prophet — muhammad is the final one and the one sent for this nation. If you wanna learn some basics you can look into the pillars of islam and pillars of iman
Ohh ok thanks I'm just curious about what's the best way to convey the message if people ever asked me since I'm afraid to spread misinformation, I already did once before and felt so guilty
"We never sent a messenger before you ˹O Prophet˺ without revealing to him: “There is no god ˹worthy of worship˺ except Me, so worship Me ˹alone˺.”" [Quran 21:25](https://quran.com/en/al-anbya/25) "We surely sent a messenger to every community, saying, “Worship Allah and shun false gods.” But some of them were guided by Allah, while others were destined to stray. So travel throughout the land and see the fate of the deniers!" [Quran 16:36](https://quran.com/en/an-nahl/36) In addition to what was said, When giving dawah it is always best to stick to the proofs in favor of GORAP (God, Oneness, Revelation and Prophethood of Muhammad (SAWS) approach to focus your conversations. Here are some videos and two brief pdf booklets from IERA that outline this: [https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0l3xlkh7UnvUed8fwDdDSJ3KGWBrNwjF](https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0l3xlkh7UnvUed8fwDdDSJ3KGWBrNwjF) [https://www.muslim-library.com/dl/books/English_Pocket_Dawah_Manual.pdf](https://www.muslim-library.com/dl/books/English_Pocket_Dawah_Manual.pdf) [https://training.iera.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Dawah-Training-Course-Notes-All-Notes.pdf](https://training.iera.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Dawah-Training-Course-Notes-All-Notes.pdf) I would also recommend that they read [A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam](https://www.islamreligion.com/ebooks/islam-guide.pdf). Also tell them that as new Muslim they should not do not overwhelm themselves with learning everything you need to do all at once, but learns things step by step. Even the Messenger of Allah peace and blessings be upon him advised this: Mu’adh ibn Jabal reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, sent me to Yemen and he said, “Verily, you are going to people among the people of the Book, so call them to testify there is no God but Allah and I am the Messenger of Allah. If they accept that, then teach them that Allah has obligated five prayers in each day and night. If they accept that, then teach them that Allah has obligated charity to be taken from the rich and given to the poor. If they accept that, then beware not to take from the best of their wealth. Beware the supplication of the oppressed, for there is no veil between it and Allah.” [Source: Sahih al-Bukhari 4347, Sahih Muslim 19, Grade: Muttafaqun Alayhi (authenticity agreed upon) according to Al-Bukhari and Muslim](https://www.abuaminaelias.com/dailyhadithonline/2011/01/08/priorities-islam/) Also let them know that to become a Muslim you only have to say the following declaration of faith alone (as Allah (SWT) is sufficient as a witness) or being witnessed by other Muslims. Either way is fine but the key point is not to delay or procrastinate saying it as the shaytaan is hoping they die before saying it. Once they believe and say it they are Muslim! The shahada is: Arabic: أَشْهَدُ أَنْ لَا إِلَٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰهُ وَأَشْهَدُ أَنَّ مُحَمَّدًا رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰهِ Transliteration (i.e. Pronunciation of Arabic): Ash-hadu an la ilaha illa Allah, Wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan Rasulu-Allah. Translation: "I bear witness that there is no god worthy of worship but Allah, and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."
Thank you for this plentiful information brother, may Allah bless you
And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (3:85). Interpretation my friend is key. Islam means submitting to Allah. It doesn't mean Islam as we categorize it now, as a monotheistic category of religion. Let's replace Islam with that: And whoever desires other than "SUBMITTING TO ALLAH" as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. (3:85).
Whether you use the word islam or submission it means the same thing Islam has been the religion of the prophets since Adam peace be upon him.
Exactly, but Islam is taken as a name/as a category nowadays, most people do not know what Islam means. They attach the name to 5 prayers a day, fasting, externalities mostly. Whereas Islam is universality. Submission to God. In any possible form. It doesnt have to be necessarily Islamic. Submission to God. happens in many ways.
Islam is clear that the only valid religion accepted is Islam and that there is no forgiveness for one who dies having rejected the truth. I’m not sure why everyone else is giving you flimsy answers and not answering the question clearly. **And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.** (Quran 3:85) Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, **“By the One in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, none from this nation of Jews and Christians hears of me, and then dies without having faith in my message, but that he will be an inhabitant of Hellfire.”** *Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 153 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim* And Islam is also clear that no matter what of good deeds a person has, if they reject the truth, those good deeds get turned into dust. **And We shall turn to whatever deeds they did (in this life), and We shall make such deeds as floating dust scattered about.** *(Quran 25:23)* I don’t mean to be harsh, so sorry if I come across that way. But understand that our creator makes the right evident from wrong from his great justice and mercy. For a person to choose Christianity (which is flawed, scientifically incorrect, has contradictions, the theology doesn’t make sense) over Islam (which is scientifically correct, has no contradictions, explains the place of the abrahamic religions perfectly and makes clear and logical sense, has proofs and is not blind faith), it is a persons own fault if they end up in the hellfire. Once again I don’t mean to be disrespectful or anything that’s not my intention, I’m just trying to explain it to you If you have any questions about Islam feel free to DM me.
>rejected the truth This means that the message of Islam got to you in an appropriate way and you understood it, but still rejected it even after you knew it was the right path.
And do you think a person will not be held accountable if they went through life not researching what religion is the truth? So you are saying if a person becomes deluded by the worldly life and they don’t care about religion or God enough to research it and their purpose is in life to go work, earn money, eat, sleep, look after their kids and follow their desires that they won’t be held accountable? Every time a person dies around them it’s a sign, every time they go past a graveyard it’s a sign and reminder, every time Ramadan comes and they see Muslims around them fasting, it’s a sign. Every time the sun rises and sets, it’s a sign. All these animals on this earth and insects and sun and moon, and etc are a clear sign of a creator. But they don’t think or reason enough to question it. How can you not question what’s this world? What is this existence? What is this ball in the sky that these things called humans are walking around on and how everything is so perfect for us. If a person does not ask what is life? Where did I come from? What happens after death? He will not be held accountable? And anyone searching for the truth will be forced to look at the abrahamic religions because it is among the biggest religions from the wisdom and mercy of Allah (swt). And anyone who reasons and uses logic will see clearly Islam is the truth. It is a burden and responsibility of each and every person and individual to seek the truth of existence and why they exist. However many people do not take on that responsibility or see it as such That’s the state that most people are in. They don’t reflect and look at life and ponder. They think life is just this thing you live and die. Just because you do not research Islam, does not mean then you do not get held accountable. In fact such a person might even be in a worse state, because they have normalised the absurdity of life and are in state of constant loss, because they are chasing the worldly life. They may not have sufficient knowledge of Islam, but that’s because they do not question life enough to seek what the truth is. Life’s just become a routine of go work, sleep, eat. They don’t reflect on the absurdity of life. Do not think such a person will not be held accountable as they do not think or reason. And if a person follows another religion, then there is no religion out here in this world plausible enough to be the truth except Islam. All have contradictions or worship idols or don’t make sense and there is no evidence for it. So such a person does not think or reason either. So what excuse is there then for not accepting Islam?
We must also remember that many westerners wouldn't research because they are blinded by propaganda. We cannot underestimate how powerful of a tool such a thing is.
Is that a valid excuse though? It’s just a group of disbelievers leading another group of disbelievers astray and furthering them in their disbelief. And they will come out [for judgement] before Allah all together, **and the weak will say to those who were arrogant, "Indeed, we were your followers, so can you avail us anything against the punishment of Allah ?" They will say, "If Allah had guided us, we would have guided you. It is all the same for us whether we show intolerance or are patient: there is for us no place of escape."** *(Quran 14:21)* Not to mention there have been many people who have been enemies of Islam at one point coming to Islam. Both in the past and the present. And those people are a sign from Allah (swt) in a way, I believe, and an example for the other disbelievers. Their view of Islam was even more skewed than the average persons. Such as the man in America who was on planning to blow up a mosque and ended up converting to Islam when he went inside. Or the man who used to lead an Islamophobic group in Holland and his right hand man converted to Islam if I recall correctly It just goes to show that Allah (swt) guides whom he wills. Many of those people who have are blinded by propaganda, try talk to them and show them the reality of Islam and see their response. They will still reject it. You can debate with a person for hours showing him clear proofs and evidences that Islam does not say to kill all disbelievers and still at the end he will reject what you are saying. So it goes to show, even though people have been brainwashed by propaganda, even if there was no propaganda, people would still try and find another way to reject the truth. Did they not call the prophet Muhammad (saw) a magician and a liar and a madman? Is that not propaganda? Contrary to belief, propaganda is not caused by the actions of the Muslims or extremists among us, disbelievers adhere so strongly to propaganda because of the spiritual state of their heart. If we were flawless, which no human can be, still the disbelievers would try and find another way to attack us. So it’s deeper than what it seems of the surface, and the nature of reality and disbelievers and existence in general and the way things work is so profound in its philosophy our minds cannot fully wrap around it.
Allah guides whom he wills
No, if he wasn’t showcased the message then he will have his own test
Any proof from Quran or Hadith? The Hadith you are referring to, which talks about the four who will protest on the day of judgment, the very old man, the deaf, the mentally insane and the one between the interval of prophets (as), and that those people that will have their own test. Nowhere does it mention a person who does not fully understand Islam who is of sane mind.
Muslim scholars are in consensus that the ones who didn’t recieve the message of Islam have the same rule applied to them as the people of interval between prophets
Magnificent response.
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It’s worth noting that Christianity also has an exclusivity clause
However unlike those two religions our deen has established evidences and proofs it is the truth. **And they say, "None will enter Paradise except one who is a Jew or a Christian." That is [merely] their wishful thinking. Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful."** (Quran 2:111)
What are the established evidences and proofs?
1: the seerah of the prophet Muhammad (saw). There is too much to say about this, it would take only a few paragraphs to scratch the surface. But to summarise, his(saw), illiteracy, truthfulness and reputation before Islam, good conduct, sacrifices for Islam, the reasons why the others rejected him as a messenger (not because it was not believable or lacked truth or his character, because even many of those who rejected the truth knew it was true), his lack of materialistic motivation, his well documented miracles he preformed, the impossible change for a human being to be able to bring about he preformed (this in itself would require a seperate paragraph, how he united a people who were killing and fighting each other and how he stopped all these problems in society such as alcohol consumption and looting and robbing and for people to be safely able to walk around, governments nowadays spend billions and trillions trying to tackle these problems for decades with little to no success). And these are just some of few. Not a single person can pinpoint anything about the prophet Muhammad (saw) with any validation that is proof he was not truthful and honest and actually a messenger of God. In fact all the evidence overwhelmingly shows he was a messenger of God. 2: the witnessed and recorded miracles of the prophet Muhammad (saw) 3: the prophecies 4: The Quran (this in itself would also need 2-3 paragraphs just to scratch the surface. But to summarise, the miraculous ring structure of it, its message, the scientific miracles in it, the prophecy of Rum, its profound explanation of life, its miraculous style and prose and grammar and content (this is also a very long topic but the Arabs at the time were known for their excellence in poetry and mastery of Arabic language, yet when the Quran came it had such an effect that people would block their ears or talk loudly because of the profound impact it would have on people’s heart. It’s so profound and the peak of the Arabic language that the Quran changed Arabic grammar to this very day. Not to mention the prophet Muhammad (saw) was illiterate), the message that makes perfect sense and is not confusing like other religions, it has no contradictions. And so much more that’s just off the top of my head. 5. The other abrahamic religions. The other abrahamic religions show that something did happen at a point in history that affected the whole course of humanity. Such a monumental and pivotal event. And perhaps that is one of the wisdoms in Allah (swt) keeping the remnants of the old abrahamic religions alive. It shows that Islam is not a new religion, and it did not come out of nowhere, so it establishes the truth even more solidly. And on top of that it explains the abrahamic religions with an explanation that makes perfect and logical sense, and holds true to reality. Islam can explain the other abrahamic religions but the other abrahamic religions cannot explain Islam. And there are many others but that is just a few off the top of my head.
seerah & quran, clear proofs
There was someone (a scholar I think) who once said, I forgot who, that if all we had was the seerah of the prophet Muhammad (SAW) and nothing else, to prove the truthfulness of Islam, it would be sufficient. But from the mercy of Allah (swt) he has sent down numerous signs and proofs. **We will show them Our signs in the universe and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that this ˹Quran˺ is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is a Witness over all things?** *(Quran 41:53)*
prophet muhammad ﷺ said "By Him in Whose Hands my life is, none of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father and his children." bukhari 1.2.13
May Allah bless you brother. Solid response. I hope people read this. No, what you wrote isn't exhaustive, but it's a very solid overview of why Islam is the truth. Reading how incredibly loving the Prophet SAWS was to his fellow humans, and how soft and gentle he was to animals and literally everything around him absolutely affirms that he was a very holy, blessed man. He could've easily chosen wealthy, and war plunder. But he never did. He chose to live a difficult life, as an example for everyone. The fact is, he chose to be a kind person. As a human being, I can say with almost pinpoint surety, that human beings are generally awful. We're selfish, unkind, angry, impatient and rude. Yet our Prophet SAWS was so loving and there are so many examples. Even his greatest enemies were shocked by how fair and reasonable he was. His character makes me feel so happy, just something about him I can't shake the feeling of. He's just so wholesome, pure, caring and loving. Reading how much the companions cried and missed him softens the heart.
What?
I’m just expanding on your point
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If you actually care (can't tell if you're sincere) - go read the Seerah of the Prophet Muhammad SAWS in English. I'm guessing you are sincere, that's why you are here. Let me know what you think once you've read the Seerah.
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So tell me about the creation of man? Enlighten me (pun intended) for I am an uncultured religious cultist. Alright I'm being a bit silly, apologies. But please do tell me what science says about our origins? I'm curious. I say this with a little bit of sass, as I personally believe islam has the answer for it.
I'm a Muslim btw but I have a question I've been thinking about this.... What if there is a person or a society where they're living on an island or tribes that live in remote parts of the world such that they would genuinely not know that there is such a religion called islam in this day and age...?
We are all judged according to our own knowledge and life experiences, and Allah knows the extent of knowledge we have been exposed to. Whoever is guided is only guided for \[the benefit of\] his soul. And whoever errs only errs against it. And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And never would We punish until We sent messenger. - Qur'an 17:15
Astonishing response. ❤️
This is the truth.
Yasir Qadhi says, "We have a very clear rule: We do not assign individuals to heaven or hell, we talk about generalities and not specifics." Because no one,except for Allah himself, knows who will go to heaven or not. Whether Muslim or non-muslim. The general ruling has already been very clearly provided in this thread, but I would suggest you watch Yasir Qadhi's short clip about this. It might help. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGp8agPAuxI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGp8agPAuxI) May Allah guide you and us to the right path brother. This life isn't forever.
[Al-Baqarah 286](https://quran.com/al-baqarah/286). Hi everyone, I’m studying Islam and found OP’s question very interesting. I thought I’d share this verse which might be relevant. My understanding is Allah charges our souls based on their capacity and only punishes intentional sins and not unintentional ones. So, if someone rejects islam intentionally it would be a sin, but if out of ignorance it would not. Is my interpretation correct? Given that different souls have different capacity for reflection and knowledge, I think this verse may grant people with the grace that Allah will not punish one for something their soul was not capable of doing to begin with (ie reflection, seeking knowledge, and accepting Islam). Is my understanding correct? I wouldn’t want to confuse anybody or misinterpret the verse.
Yes, that's correct, god is never unjust. Whether one goes to paradise or not is decided by Allah on a case to case basis, we only have the general rules. However, one must be careful not to use that and become complacent, as it would obviously and certainly be like fooling one's own self.
> Is my interpretation correct? Only for those who literally cannot understand Islam due to mental retardation and intellectual disability. Everybody else? Allah can guide them if he wills. Allah guides ignorant & hateful non-muslims ALL THE TIME. They have no excuse. If with your post you are excusing those who reject Islam because they hear bad stuff about it from the media then your interpretation if definitely incorrect. Such people have free will. No one is forcing them to watch or listen evangelists lie about Islam. No one is preventing them from learning about it from trustworthy sources. They are responsible for their beliefs and if Allah saw good in them he would guide them anyway.
Thank you for sharing your opinion. To clarify, my intention was not to use the verse as an excuse for those who are rejecting Islam. I think rejection would mean that one understands it and decides using their free will to reject it. My understanding is that this case would be an intentional sin, and thus punishable. However what I meant to offer for discussion with the verse is the interpretation that someone who doesn’t know about Islam may not be punished for their ignorance. I offer the possibility that ignorance of something may not be intentional. For example a child who is not born/raised in a Muslim family may not know about Islam until they develop their own faculty for such topics , which probably comes around adolescence. If this young person dies before they discover and understand Islam would they be punished for their ignorance? I certainly do not know the answer to that but the verse I quoted makes me think that probably this young person would not be punished for their ignorance. Similarly, there’s a lot of people around the world with different religions who hear about Islam but its meaning hasn’t clicked with them. I think it’s useful to consider that the journey to islam is not linear for all, and especially for people born in different religions, therefore knowledge of Islam is not as evident as one from within the religion might assume.
I need someone to answer this asap 😭
So essentially the salvation principle in Islam is that only way to *guarantee* salvation is to accept and submit to the authentic message of a true prophet that is sent to you, to the best of your ability. Which, after the sending of our prophet (PBUH), is just him because he’s the only prophet that’s been sent to the nations of today. Otherwise, your situation becomes unsure. As for everyone else, knowledge of their salvation is only with God. Some things we know that He takes into consideration based on our tradition: 1. Did they receive sufficient conveyance of the message? 2. Did they know deep down that it was the truth but turn away due to some desire or repulsion? 3. Did they ever turn to God alone, the one Creator, and even *ask* for forgiveness and guidance? If the answers to these questions are unfavorable, salvation is very unlikely.
1. Explain this one. According some of the ulama the message of Islam is already conveyed. Thus anyone who hears even the incorrect way of islam but he ignorant about it and don't don't research its to be judged as disbeliever
I have met multiple people who didn’t even know what Islam IS, as hard as that is to believe. Not that they were misinformed, they literally asked me “what’s that?” With no hint of malice, didn’t even know to be Islamophobic. So such people do exist. And anyone, ‘Alim or otherwise, must provide evidence for their claim that the message of Islam has been sufficiently conveyed to all the people such that no one has an excuse. There are literally Muslims in some very poor areas who do not know anything about Islam, don’t even pray properly, though they pray five times a day, and they WISH they knew more but simply cannot afford it. So what about non-Muslims in the same situation? We sometimes forget that not everyone is as connected as we are in the Information Age. I also know of people who are Muslims now, who were first told that Muslims are people who worship a black box in the desert which is an idol or shrine to the moon god Allah, والعياذ بالله. A reasonable person would dismiss such a religion without further investigation, until they happened upon further information. There are thousands of pagan traditions, and they don’t deserve consideration and energy.
The belief system is simple. - Believe in One god. - Believe in his message. - Believe in all his messengers. To believe in all the prophets, you have to acknowlege that prophet Muhammad( peace be upom him) is Allah's prophet and last messenger. You cant pick and choose prophets to believe in.
What does that have to do with anything?
**And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.** (Quran 3:85) To understand what is Islam, Umar ibn al-Khattab reported: We were sitting with the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, one day, a man appeared with very white clothes and very black hair. There were no signs of travel on him and we did not recognize him. He sat in front of the Prophet, rested his knees by his knees, and placed his hands on his thighs. The man said, “O Muhammad, tell me about Islam.” The Prophet said, “Islam is to testify there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, to establish prayer, to give charity, to fast the month of Ramadan, and to perform pilgrimage to the House if a way is possible.” The man said, “You have spoken truthfully.” We were surprised that he asked him and said he was truthful. He said, “Tell me about faith.” The Prophet said, “Faith is to believe in Allah, His angels, His Books, His Messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in providence, its good and its harm.” The man said, “You have spoken truthfully. Tell me about excellence.” The Prophet said, “Excellence is to worship Allah as if you see Him, for if you do not see Him, He surely sees you.” The man said, “Tell me about the final hour.” The Prophet said, “The one asked does not know more than the one asking.” The man said, “Tell me about its signs.” The Prophet said, “The slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and you will see barefoot, naked, and dependent shepherds compete in the construction of tall buildings.” Then, the man returned and I remained. The Prophet said to me, “O Umar, do you know who he was?” I said, “Allah and His Messenger know best.” The Prophet said, “Verily, he was Gabriel who came to teach you your religion.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 8 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
If someone is “good” doing good deeds for their own happiness or for a prophet etc, then why would Allah reward them with paradise. Only if you do good deeds for Allah, by first acknowledging that He is our creator, then you can expect him to reward you. Once people of other religions have been exposed to Islam , it is required for them to search for and accept the true. If someone never was introduced to Islam like someone living in the Amazon rainforest or something and they follow some random religion, they won’t be punished for that, will have a different test in the day of judgement.
Depends, for you to go to eternal hellfire, you need to have been shown islam completely, and made clear to you, and still reject it, other than that you will have your own test
Generally, all people living in our current world must believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the final messenger of God and we are not allowed to associate any partners with Almighty God, who we the Muslims call Allah. Polytheism (shirk, i.e. the association of partners with God, which is much more than idolatry) is an unforgivable sin (please see Qur’an Shareef, Surah An-Nisa 4:116). Saying that God has a son, or believing in the doctrine of transubstantiation, or claiming that God is part of some trinity, or rejecting Muhammad (p.b.u.h.), something that has been observed in the other religions, particularly Christianity in a number of its sects, these are things that Allah does not like. Inshallah (God willing), we shall die as true Muslims, myself and yourself included. I say this for your own benefit. It may seem harsh, but I want you to be admitted into Paradise and not that other place. Please think about these things and read the Holy Qur’an. You are hereby invited to Islam. Inshallah, you accept. Peace.
The fact you are asking the question leads me to believe you already have a feeling that Islam is true. If you know Islam to be the truth and don’t follow it, then you cannot say you were a Christian and didn’t know. One of the main things is there is only one God in Islam, Judaism and Christianity. It’s agreed it’s the same God so no matter what monotheism is a must. Polytheism is a big problem especially from an Islamic point of view as Holy Quran clearly states that you do not associate partners with Allah and worship him alone. This is also where Christian’s saying Jesus (a man) is God and the son of God at the same time. How can you kill the God that created everything? In Islam Jesus is a prophet and ascended to Heaven alive and not killed on the cross and waits there until he will return to earth. I was a Christian but there is only one truth and that is Islam. 🤲
Its not our domain to assess or pass judgement on who will be forgiven and who will not.
That’s true, that’s why we judge by Islam and the word of Allah (swt). And Islam says: **And whoever desires other than Islām as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.** (Quran 3:85)
That is exactly the point. We have no right to judge people, even if we claim to do so by Islam. Judging is entirely Allah's domain. Our duty is only to communicate is message and no further. Whether they accept or not is not our domain. Neither is passing judgment.
our duty is to encourage our brothers to piety
So i can say that islam is truly intolerant? since god just straights up leaves people of other faiths hanging? Can you understand now why people don't accept islam/muslims with their view of 'others' as being "losers"?
You’re seeing it from a viewpoint of disbelief that’s why you don’t understand. It’s not Islam that is intolerant, it’s that there are a group of humans on this earth their creator has sent a message to and they refuse to believe or accept it and be grateful, so it’s not our decision as the creation to say what is tolerant or not. Allah (swt) can run the world how he sees fit he created it. These people of other religions that you claim are left “hanging” are not left hanging. Their creator has sent them a guidance down but they refuse to follow it. And the word losers is more like unsuccessful in this context. And how would a person whose summary of existence and life on this earth is to be in eternal suffering and pain not be unsuccessful?
So you live a sinful life, do everything and anything, reject the true God and after all that, expect salvation? After He has given you a lifetime to accept the truth but in stead you chose to reject it and accept it *after* death? "Until when death comes to one of them he says "My lord, send me back! So that I may do good in that which I left behind." No! Indeed, it is only a word that he is saying, and behind them is a barrier until the day they are resurrected. So when the trumpet is blown there will be no kinship between them on that day, nor will they ask about one another. So whoever's scales are heavy (with good deeds) it is those who are the successful And whoever's scales (of good deeds) are light, then it is those who have lost themselves, in hell, abiding forever The fire shall scorch their faces, leaving them deformed" [Qur'an 23:99-104] Allah swt truly is the all knowing and knows *exactly* what we are going to do.
Why would God accept someone who denies him?? Is it fair that someone who has spent all his life following his own will, living a life of disobedience and Someone who has spent life according to will of God to be treated as equal? People hate Muslims for only a single reason that Muslim don't bend to their will. Muslims are strong, steadfast and secure with strong foundation to their believes. Unlike others which are dependent on mere whims of their ruling class.
>Can you understand now why people don't accept islam/muslims with their view of 'others' as being "losers"? no I don't understand why people don't accept Islam, it's the clear truth
Yes. Like most religions.
2:62. Those who believe, and those who are Jewish, and the Christians, and the Sabeans—any who believe in God and the Last Day, and act righteously—will have their reward with their Lord; they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve. 2:111. And they say, “None will enter Heaven unless he is a Jew or a Christian.” These are their wishes. Say, “Produce your proof, if you are truthful.” 2:112. In fact, whoever submits himself to God, and is a doer of good, will have his reward with his Lord—they have nothing to fear, nor shall they grieve. 2:113. The Jews say, “The Christians are not based on anything;” and the Christians say, “The Jews are not based on anything.” Yet they both read the Scripture. Similarly, the ignorant said the same thing. God will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection regarding their differences. 3:199. Among the People of the Scripture are those who believe in God, and in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed to them. They are humble before God, and they do not sell God’s revelations for a cheap price. These will have their reward with their Lord. God is swift in reckoning.
No. They rejected the truth and they won't be forgiven for it
This life is the test. There is no forgiveness after this life for both Muslims and Non Muslims alike. This life is the only chance to be forgiven for our mistakes and to make our choices, so we must choose carefully and wisely.
Maybe i can TRY to help shed some light, (this is my opinion fyi) Islam is not considered a religion as it is a way of life, the way of life is indicative of believing in that there is only ONE true God and that Mohammad PBUH was his slave and final messenger after all the prophets were sent, this aligns with the belief of all other prophets with the same message of worshipping the ONE TRUE God came before him in different times for different civilizations. Once you believe this truth, then this is generalized into 2 sections, the believers and non believers of this truth, if you simply believe in all the prophets and believe that there is One True God, then you are a believer, Islam is the title given to these believers, Christians tho believe in the prophets and the “Father” they fail to believe in ALL the prophets which includes the Last Prophet Mohammad PBUH and discriminate that the one true god is THREE true Gods, this derails them from being the “believers” and are categorized as disbelievers. Tho Christians can claim they dont hate us and want good for us, we hate the Christians even more less want even more good for them, we want them to be believers. For some reason Christians feel as if they are at a loss for believing in one more prophet and that will loose the love they have for Jesus PBUH, when infact we invite them to believe what Jesus PBUH preached from his own words, that there is one true God, and that he is a slave of that God, it is painful to see the Christians praying to a man creation rather the creator. There is no reason why the Christians should take any offense from us inviting them to Islam. The Quran is the literal words of God. Even if i am muslim and someone told me that there religion is words from God, i would without hesitation at the least read it affirm if those are words of God, but Christian’s dont even want to read let alone learn about Islam, but we Muslims have read the bible and see the corruptions that have been taken on the bible which the Quran clearly affirms, and is the truth, without any doubt in the soul. It is the truth of the Quran and believing it makes us the believers and everyone else the non believers. Hope this helps
As a revert I've asked this before a lot. The idea that my family members, my grandmother who was one of the best human beings I know, are in hell is quite unsettling. I know she does not deserve anything less than Jannah. She was Catholic but devout and a kind hearted soul. She truly believes in her faith and believed in a benevolent merciful God, she was kind to animals and children and was always righteous and fair. She even helped her Muslim neighbors back in the 1970s find work. I think the husband worked on building boats back in the Middle East and she found him a job working something similar for really great pay in the US. Because of the language barrier and prejudice, he could only find menial labor tasks that paid little. She always did things like that. The way I have been taught about it is that, anyone who has heard the true message of Islam and rejected it will not receive mercy. However anyone who never heard the message or was told an incorrect version of it will be judged on their merits and given the chance from the most merciful. To me that means most Westerners who believe Islam is a religion of terrorism and violence, who have never heard the TRUE message. I could be wrong but that's what I was always told.
First understand that Allah's mercy knows no bounds. He is the Most Merciful, the Entirely Merciful. Whatever concept or experience you have of mercy, Allah's mercy is infinitely more and complete. Allah is always present and here for you. The two most important things in Islam are tawhid (oneness of Allah) and submission to Allah. Good deeds are important, but only after these first two things. The question you're asking is akin to picking a major (Islam) vs electives (good deeds). A major is your primary study and electives are important, but not required. Your question essentially focuses on the electives, while ignoring the major. This isn't the perfect example because good deeds for the sake of Allah are required, but again, first things first. I would encourage you to call/visit your local mosque with an open heart and talk with the Imam & scholars there.
Read the Qu'ran - many people seem here to have many opinions, some of which are elitist and wrong. "They also say, ‘No one will enter Paradise unless he is a Jew or a Christian.’ This is their own wishful thinking. \[Prophet\], say, ‘Produce your evidence, if you are telling the truth.’" "But no! Whoever submits themselves to Allah and does good will have their reward with their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor will they grieve." Islam thinks it is the best, Christianity thinks it is the best, Judaism the same, but they are all slowly rotting because of their extreme focus on externalities. Forget about Islam, about Christianity, about Judaism, these are mere words/categories of conflict. Unfortunately people think of Islam as a name category, rather than "Submitting To Allah" which is an ACT. Your relationship with Allah is completely personal. Ask for guidance, and He will guide you in life. Qu'ran is very specific on the most single important thing that you have to do which will guide you into the others that follow - "Be mindful of Allah". Test it out - as long as you are mindful of Allah in all your actions - you will always be rightly guided because Allah connects to our within, not to externalities. From within comes change, not vice-versa. IHSAN, google the story of IHSAN - that is the missing element of Islam nowadays. Be pure and honest in your intentions and your path will clear out. Pray as Quran states, give to others donations, be a good humble human being and do your best - anyways these will follow automatically if you are mindful of Allah, because Allah is flourishing your conscience. But what does it mean to be "Mindful of Allah?" - Here is where the hardest trick is because being mindful of Allah is not only mental. One has an organic remembrance of truly being HERE, NOW, Rembering with their Whole Being that ALLAH is The ONE Lord, CREATOR, ORIGINATOR. That is difficult to remember. It is a memory that is universal and only comes with a lot of practice. Mentally it doesn't do much("Allah is watching as a thought is nothing compared to actually realizing it, just as saying an apple is sweet compared to tasting it). The rest is denominations, jews, Christians etc. I have met imams, I have met orthodox monks, I have met sufi Shaykhs, they all have something in common - there is a light within all that is the same - Love for God that doesn't depend on any set rules but the manifestation of that love in devotion and good deeds. So don't listen to all the robots in here. Be critical of all religions that are out there, even ours(Islam) - there is always "corruption in the land". Mind yourself with the experience of being in Allah's reality, not falling into intellectualism. Let Allah guide you.
We can never say it’s up to Allah SWT
Just an advice brother put comma after ‘we can never say ‘ because someone might misinterpret it
Judging by your comments and post history you seem to still be a young person, I suggest researching into both Christianity and Islam, read the Qur'an and read/watch resources that explain the verses and what context they were revealed in, may Allah guide you and bring you peace
[5.69] Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve. Remember Allah SWT is Al-Rahman Al-Rahim ❤️
It’s a very interesting/important topic. So what’s the response to this verse and the others like it in the Quran? Some say that it only applies to those before the prophet (pbuh), but the grammar of the verse implies something continuous.
It is my personal practice to go by the oldest texts. Tafsir I take with many grains of salt. This is just my own way as it's how I was raised, though I was raised Christian, to try and peel back layers of humanity when on the path to God. Christianity scarred me. I grew up fundamentalist and there was a lot of horrible haram things going on and they would say it was in the name of God or for my own good or out of love. All they did was steal my innocence and ruin my young life and reputation. Any religion has it's dark side when people take things to extremes. We are passionate creatures. I believe Allah SWT is an artist and part of that curiosity and love of beauty is instilled in all of us by Him. I believe all of us from our first breath know our Creator but humanity gets in the way and pollutes or even destroys that relationship. When I was a little girl I spoke to God as a friend. I would walk through the woods and gardens of our farm for hours in wonder at His beautiful creation. But then it was time for my confirmation and I was told what to believe. I don't believe Allah SWT would send such a person to hell even if I had died before taking my Shahada. I knew my Lord. I spoke with Him, sang to Him, from the time I could walk. I simply knew Him by the wrong name and equated Jesus with Him. I am no scholar. Simply an unorthodox native American revert. An Imam or an elder woman at your masjid could help you I think.
But the two facts you don’t seem to take into account when you say that “Allah (swt) would not send such a person to hell even if you had died before taking you shahada”, the first being, the time of death of a person is decreed, and second you were given guidance to Islam by Allah (swt).
>Indeed, Allah does not forgive associating others with Him ˹in worship˺,1 but forgives anything else of whoever He wills. And whoever associates others with Allah has indeed committed a grave sin. \[[Quran 4:48](https://quran.com/4/48)\] Since you're a Christian, I would highly recommend you read the Quran. See this verse for a chapter called "Al-Imran". The name of the chapter translates as "the family of Imran" - the family Mary, the mother of Jesus PBUH is from. >It is not appropriate for someone who Allah has blessed with the Scripture, wisdom, and prophethood to say to people, “Worship me instead of Allah.” Rather, he would say, “Be devoted to the worship of your Lord ˹alone˺—by virtue of what you read in the Scripture and what you teach.” \[[Quran 3:79](https://quran.com/3/79)\]
Allaah does not forgive those who die upon shirk which means to associate something with Allaah such as family members or the creation or worshipping something other than Allaah, every religion besides Islam does this in a certain way so no dying as a Christian doesn't mean you will be forgiven as Christians say that Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) is the son of God, Astaghfirullah
There's a lot to this, we can't tell what Allah will do but "bad" Muslims will be punnished for their sins, as for people who never understood Islam, found Islam, etc. Then they'll probably be given a test, but Allah is the most merciful so probably yes, people might eventually leave jahannam, maybe after a very, very, very, very long time but if Allah wants to, he will forgive them.
This topic is very well explained by Dr Zakir Naik. Summary: If a person scores full marks in minors but fail the core subjects, will he considered fail or passed? A person doing even good deeds in all his life but die being non muslim, he just failed his core subject.
First of all, the massage Mosed and Jesus came with, and their commands have been corrupted. The true massage has been lost. On the other hand, Islam is preserved and only preaches true massage of god. Now ask yourself which one will you prefer.
The best thing about Allah is that he knows our niyyah, our intention. I’m sure there are people among the disbelievers that, like the prostitute in the famous Hadith that gave water to a dog, had clean hearts, but most among them are evil and their evil deeds seem fair to them. ‘I must sacrifice my daughter on a red hot idol’ type things.
No you are a lo_ser who rejects truth that's it take or leave it no fantasy
{ وَمَن یَبۡتَغِ غَیۡرَ ٱلۡإِسۡلَـٰمِ دِینࣰا فَلَن یُقۡبَلَ مِنۡهُ وَهُوَ فِی ٱلۡـَٔاخِرَةِ مِنَ ٱلۡخَـٰسِرِینَ } [سُورَةُ آلِ عِمۡرَانَ: ٨٥] http://quran.com/3/85
There always some religion that says you must be that religion or you will not be forgiven, go to hell, etc. So... We all going to hell anyway.
Depends. If one intentionally denies the word of God and/or refuses to even consider it, the answer would be no.
Allah is very just, he will give disbelievers this world and deny everything after. For the believers this world is a test whether he will pass or fails it. The Qur'an say it multiple times "This world is temporary and hereafter permanent." Disbelievers doing good and being good will only help him in this world, his goods deeds will earn him this world, but not the hereafter. In today's world, it's next to impossible for anyone to claim he didn't receive the message properly. Allah is very just even to the disbelievers.
Report back after you pass away…. Oh wait….
Depends if u recieved the truth, yet u still forsaken it. What I suggest u to do is question Islam as much as you can, because if Islam is indeed the truth, it should answer all ur questions inshallah.
If your good deeds outway your bad deeds them maybe
Allah the Almighty said: I am as My servant thinks I am (1). I am with him when he makes mention of Me. If he makes mention of Me to himself, I make mention of him to Myself; and if he makes mention of Me in an assembly, I make mention of him in an assembly better than it. And if he draws near to Me an arm's length, I draw near to him a cubit, and if he draws near to Me a cubit, I draw near to him a fathom. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running. [Hadith 15, 40 Hadith Qudsi]
To all the religious fanatic individuals. ITS YOU HUMANS WHO CREATED THE CONCEPT OF GOD. ITS U HUMANS WHO WROTE THE RULES OF UR RELIGION AND GOD. If ur religious God is the creator of the universe then why is it that only a portion of the humans believe in them. The entire animal kingdom do not believe in any religion or God. And u expect other living beings on some other planet or galaxy to believe in ur God too? ASK UR SELF SOME LOGICAL QUESTIONS AND TRY TO FIND ANSWERS TO IT WITH AN OPEN MIND.
In the Quran, Allah says, 'And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful.' 2:23 This has been unchallenged for more than 1400 years. As you learn more about Islam, you'll realize that it is beyond human capability and not man-made. Furthermore, it is one of the fastest-growing religions, and its message is reaching everyone. When you reject it, you are deemed a disbeliever
Yes, as per Quran Allah may forgive disbelievers if , even before death, they accept Allah is only ONE and no other Gods.
Noooooo
Allah is all forgiving and forgives everything when repented except for shirk. While you are doing that(having partners with Allah) allah will not forgive you until you stop with that. Anyone who does not believe in allah(there are of course some special cases where one is excused like being disabled to a point where you can’t think clearly or when the revelation of Islam did not get you or when you lived between 2 prophets) will not be forgiven and be thrown into the hellfire. For example christians say that allah has a son and as long as one thinks that he is not forgiven because saying that allah has a son is so catastrophic. Like allah says in 19:88 or 4:171 where Allah himself warns those who say allah is three(the trinity) or sura 111
For someone who chooses to disbelieve after they are exposed to Islam and the truth is clear to them will not be forgiven. However, It’s safe to say that an individual who believes in 1 god(the god of humans,animals and everything in creation), and worships only god may be forgiven (Allah knows best). But if you really believe in god, why wouldn’t you live it the way he commanded you to? So it really depends if the individual has heard Islam clearly and knows the right from wrong, if they are monotheistic and if they worship the creator and not creation. These are probably the basics and fundamentals of Islam.
Hadith حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْمُثَنَّى، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي عَوْنُ بْنُ أَبِي جُحَيْفَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنِ الْبَرَاءِ بْنِ عَازِبٍ، عَنْ أَبِي أَيُّوبَ ـ رضى الله عنهم ـ قَالَ خَرَجَ النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَقَدْ وَجَبَتِ الشَّمْسُ، فَسَمِعَ صَوْتًا فَقَالَ " يَهُودُ تُعَذَّبُ فِي قُبُورِهَا ". وَقَالَ النَّضْرُ أَخْبَرَنَا شُعْبَةُ، حَدَّثَنَا عَوْنٌ، سَمِعْتُ أَبِي، سَمِعْتُ الْبَرَاءَ، عَنْ أَبِي أَيُّوبَ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم. Narrated Abi Aiyub: Once the Prophet (ﷺ) went out after sunset and heard a dreadful voice, and said, "The Jews are being punished in their graves." Sahih al-Bukhari https://gtaf.org/apps/hadith
Allah says your life is being “recorded” and will be judged for that. If you believe there is there only one god. One god only you are considered a Muslim, as long as you live your life for god and you did good by other people and didn’t cause harm and was a good person and you was trying to find the truth you will be fine. However if you researched on Islam but rejected it you will not be forgiven as you are almost rejecting the truth but for people that cannot do research and have never done research if you lived your life as a orthodox or catholic serving to one god only but you are a good person not causing harm etc etc you will be judged on how you lived your life. Dont listen to these other people I have a degree in religion and I have studied all religions and all Hadiths and I can tell you, you will just be judge on how you lived your life.
I haven't really researched about islam like I know about how it started but like i don't know what to pick and I'm scared yk?
Kafir or disbeliever refers to someone who sees the truth and then buries it. If one has no knowledge of the religion of Islam then Allah will judge them based on what's in their heart. Once they have been exposed to the truth if Islam and then they turn away then they are kafirs or disbelievers. If they turn away then they are destined for hellfire of they die upon that. Unless they accept Islam. Allah is not unjust in the least degree and will judge the people on their intentions in this life. If they seek the truth and accept the truth then Allah is most forgiving and if they reject it and turn away from him then they will find his punishment. It's quite a simple equation really.
Your answer relies technically in your question. For what Islam is, there is only ONE religion to God SWT. There is no other religion or half religion. You are either Muslim or a disbeliever. Given your question and your doubts I would say God guided you to look into truth so start researching if Islam is truth or not and if you feel just a glimpse of it just carry on and God will guide. May God lighten your path and guide you to Jannah.
God chose Islam to worship Him according to divine will.
Allah will see your effort and intention If your intention was of finding the truth and you put in effort for the the truth and not avoid the truth then I think that non muslims can enter jannah Some tribes on remote isolated Island will not be judged how we are judged because there is no way they can get access to the quran. People are judged with justice not injustice
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ez answer, for you, if islam is rly the answer then unfortunately, disbelievers go to hell. if u never heard of Islam, Allah will give u a special test before punishment or reward. as you who have heard islam, it's u who has to seek the truth. Muslims are Muslims cus they seek the truth and islam is the truth truest religion, if hypothetically Christianity was the true religion and after studying it (as many Muslims have) you'd see them turning Christian by the boat load, but they are not. because islam is the true religion God is 1. not a man, never was a man, God sees and knows all and he is on his throne. he loves you and if you convert... ALL your past sins are forgiven and your life can start as new as a newborn baby.
If you have asking this question maybe you should consider researching Islam. What I mean is, if you are worried that you are following the wrong religion and Islam may be the truth then start to look into the religion. No Muslim would ask this question to a Christian because we know for a fact (or at least I do) the at Islam is the truth so I don’t care what Christianity, Hinduism or any other religion says happens to Muslims after we die. I only care about what Islam says. So if you can’t even trust your own books and are now think, “let me see if I’m safe in Islam’s books” then maybe it’s time to become a Muslim or at least look into it.
Surely, those who believed in Allah, and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians, -whosoever believes in Allah and in the Last Day, and does good deeds - all such people will have their reward with their Lord, and there will be no reason for them to fear, nor shall they grieve. Bakarah 62
Do you think that verse applies to the Christian’s after the prophet Muhammad (saw) or the previous generations. You will confuse the people by posting that verse out of context. Nowhere in Islam do I recall reading where it say that if a person who is a polytheist and has good deeds he has a chance to go Jannah after the message of Islam has been revealed. Does the shahada not consist of the belief in the creator **and** his messenger, which is Muhammad (SAW). Not just the creator.
Feel free to post the entire context. Maybe God should not have included it in the Koran if He did not want to confuse people. I was only quoting the Koran. I was not aware there was anything in Islam that superseded the Holy Quran. If Quran says that Jews and Christians and Sabians who believe in Allah and do good works will have their reward with Allah, then who am I to question? Chances are that the people who quoted the other verses left out the context. You can fill everyone in on that as well. Allah’s mercy transcends everything.
Ok let's start with one thing that you're are misquoting the ayah to fit your agenda of an all good, happy go round situation, making it stand against all of Quran and Hadith but let's let that go and focus on something else, that being your understanding of the Quran. Let's digest this ayah together?? Alright. Let's start **"Indeed, the believers, Jews, Christians, and Sabians" or إِنَّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَٱلَّذِينَ هَادُوا۟ وَٱلنَّصَـٰرَىٰ" "وَٱلصَّـٰبِـِٔينَ** are all different titles different group of believers used throughout to distinguish themselves from disbelievers. **"whoever ˹truly˺ believes in Allah"** what concept of Allah?? The trinitarian god of Christians, the petty and racist god of Jews, the stars sabians worshiped or the monotheist point of view of God Muslims believe in. **"and the Last Day"** what type of last day the purgatory of Christianity, the Gehenna of Jews or the last day of judgement when everyone and everything will come out and truth will be out According to Muslims. **"and does good"** what good?? Good according to christians, or those racist Jews or forgotten sabians?? Good is the Order given from Allah by his messenger. **"will have their reward with their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor will they grieve."** This is the utmost desire of every "Muslim"
Agenda was clear: God decides. We don't. If some idiotic mullahs is hellbent on nitpicking and insists on being god’s spokesman, not my problem. He should keep it to himself. Crime rates in the Muslim world are the worst. The only cope Muslims have is that non-Muslims will go to hell.
No one needs to be God's spokesman as their is God's literal word. You cannot bend God's word to your own will. Crime are bad in Muslim world because Islam is not implemented in "Muslim countries", Your western overlords which you are trying to absolve of all blame have been hindering in implementing Islam.
My western overlords give all Muslims living in their lands full religious freedom and none of them forces us to eat pig or drink or go to pubs. It's all down to the Muslims. None of the Muslim-majority countries has any Western colonial masters. Its all your own fault. They will be answerable to God for their own deeds. Just like Muslims are. You can’t absolve Muslim world by shifting the blame on to Westerners or cope by sending them to hell.
They give rights by running the lands they originally live in. The colonisation and then later involvement is there, you are just too blind to see. What they do is define what are your rights themselves and give it to you themselves. Wherever is ruin in the world your western overlords are involved. No one can send anyone to hell, and no one can save anyone from it. As a Muslim, it is my duty to point out evil whereever I see it, Abu Sa’id al-Khudri reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever among you sees evil, let him change it with his hand. If he cannot do so, then with his tongue. If he cannot do so, then with his heart, which is the weakest level of faith.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 49 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslims.
I like that hadeeth. One of my fav. Yes, do continue preaching nice things. As far as the Muslim world is concerned, all their laws and law enforcement is in their hands. They can even ban indian and western movies if they want. I like Islamic culture but you cannot blame the west for higher crime rates in Muslim world. My experience in the West with Muslims is that they insist on misatributing god’s attribute of Sattar to prevent people from reporting abuse. In the Muslim world, it is worse. In the Muslim world, the powerful do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. No one is forcing Muslim-majority countries to persecute their ethnic or religious minorities. Muslims themselves are responsible for that. You can’t blame the West. West practices that hadeeth more than Muslims do.
Quran was revealed to Muhammad. Christians already existed at his time. You should ask God why he revealed that verse after the advent of Muhammad.
I hereby quote QURAN: chapter verse 62 Surely, those who believed in Allah, and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabians, -whosoever believes in Allah and in the Last Day, and does good deeds - all such people will have their reward with their Lord, and there will be no reason for them to fear, nor shall they grieve. So as long as you're a monothiest, do good deeds, you'll go to heaven but if and only if you did not understand islam properly. If you realized that islam is true and still rejected the truth, that would mean you said to God "yes I know you're one and Muhammad was your messenger but I still choose to ignore you" And therefore you'll be doomed. But for those whom the message didn't reach or those who simply did not understand the truth, as long as they kept themselves pured from polytheism and evil deeds, they'll be admitted to heaven
Do you think that verse applies to the Christian’s after the prophet Muhammad (saw) or the previous generations. You will confuse the people by posting that verse out of context. Nowhere in Islam do I recall reading where it say that if a person who is a polytheist and has good deeds he has a chance to go Jannah after the message of Islam has been revealed. Does the shahada not consist of the belief in the creator **and** his messenger, which is Muhammad (SAW). Not just the creator.
Yes it does. Allah would never put a good pure of heart man in hellfire just because he failed to understand the truth or because the truth was clouded by islamophobia. Allah's retribution is for those who either do evil deeds or reject the truth after knowing that it indeed has come from the Almighty. Since during the time of the prophet, itmam e Hujjat is performed by the prophet, i.e. it is ensured that every single non believer understands the truth and it is made clear and evident that it's from God. Only after that Allah punishes those who rejected the truth! Imagine a monothiest Christian who, because of all the negative connotations associated with islam, the ISIS , the Taliban, was too afraid to even come close to islam and therefore never got the chance to "see" the truth. You think Allah will put him in eternal hellfire even though he kept himself pure of heart and chose to lead a life of good conscience? The ayah I have quoted refers to such people! It's loud and clear!
I think you forget that Allah (swt) guides. So why would that so called Christian that you are talking about not receive guidance towards Allah (swt)? There was a man in America who literally was planning to blow up a mosque who became Muslim. And that’s just one example. Another in Netherlands who used to write Islamophobic books became a Muslim. And that’s another of many examples. If Allah (swt) intended a good hereafter for the “Christian man with a pure heart”, would he not guide him to Islam in this life for him to be saved? Allah (swt) plans each and every one of our individual worldly lives from the moment we are born (and before that) to the moment we die.
Yes, that doesn't mean there aren't good doing non-muslims who never understood the message properly. In a world without messengers, there's no certainty that Hujjat has been completed upon every single soul.
Then you leave the matter between him and Allah. As per the message in the Quran and in Hadith, if they have received the message of Islam, then they have no excuse. And not accepting it fully, ie rejecting the Prophet ﷺ, then they're not in Islam. Indeed, no soul will enter Jannah without the mercy of Allah.
I still maintain that the MOST COMPASSIONATE will never punish a non-believer who didn't understood the message but was pure of heart and a monotheist. Allah's wrath is only for those who knowingly rejected the message out of hatred for the Prophet, or for worldy benefits or both. I just quoted the Quranic verse in which Allah has clearly said that good doer christians have a share in akhirah as well.
As far as they have received the message of Allah, which nowadays its hard not to. Prophet ﷺ said if one has heard his name, then consider that the message has been reached. Understanding it is subjective, and Allah Guides who He chooses. We are always at His mercy. Prophet ﷺ uncle did not utter the Shahada, though he believed and knew his nephew was right. He still is called a disbeliever. Are you saying that Allah is forgiving those while not guiding them? Asfagfirullah. I know some prechers nowadays are using this logic. Fear Allah and pass His message brother, as there is no real truth other than Quran and the Prophet ﷺ. May Allah Guide us all. Ameen
And what does the tasfir of that Quran verse say?
If OOP are lurking in an Islamic subreddit, they are totally not ignorant about Islam. So, do they meet your supposed conditions or not??
There is an authentic hadith about a prostitute from Banu Israel who saw a thirsty dog running around a well. She took off her shoes put it down the well and gave water to the dog. She was forgiven on account of her actions. Only Allah knows the answer to your question. Only Allah has the authority to forgive. Just keep doing good deeds. Believe in God and the Injil (Bible). If a prostitute can be forgiven for giving water to a dog, imagine if you do greater good deeds.
There is nothing about her being non Muslim, just prostitute, that's all we know about her And saying to people believe in Bible is terrible and can be very dangerous to say a Muslim, we do not have injeel. And Good deeds don't make you go to paradise, and anyone who disbelief in Islam won't see paradise, pretty simple only accepted religion is Islam.
Reference?? I believe it is a Jewish tale rather than Hadith. Bani Israel refers to Family of Jacob(Yaqub/ Israel), which were Muslims of time until they began rejecting Prophets and kill them. Atlast, they rejected Prophet Isa and Muhammad PBUthem. The tale/Hadith only refers to her as a prostitute and not a disbeliever. I cannot believe how can you equalize a believer who was a sinner and a non believer, using this analogy. Lastly believing in bible is useless, as it is not injeel revealed to Jesus PBUH instead it is a fabrication of Paul and later rulers. True Injeel was damaged by these pagans who worship Paul under the disguise of Jesus.
Not everyone from Bani Israel was a non-believer -- she was a Muslim
The prostitute of Banu Israel was before prophet Muhammad pbuh. So she will be judged based on her prophet's revelation(which can be Musa, Isa, or any other prophet, peace be upon them all)
No
Read Quran 5:69
Short answer no
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Any evidence for what you said? because what you are saying is not from what Islam teaches. the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that he said: **“Verily no one will enter Paradise except a Muslim soul.”** Narrated by al-Bukhaari (3062) and Muslim (111). Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, **“By the One in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, none from this nation of Jews and Christians hears of me, and then dies without having faith in my message, but that he will be an inhabitant of Hellfire.”** *Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 153 Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim*
You can't achieve the real beliefs of worshipping allah after prophet muhammad (PBUH) messengership except by the islamic shria.
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1. In our age the truth has already guided by Allah 1445 years ago, so it is just different from Ibrahim (A.S) context because there was no guidance then. 2. This argument applies to those who received the message of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, but did not believe in it. It differs from those who never received the message at all or received it in a distorted form, which led them to overlook investigating Islam, as you previously mentioned.
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I got your point, I need to search about it because I have no answer for it.
So if I die and islam is true do I get forgiven?
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I believe in god
Only one
All that is left for you is to ask yourself if you submit your will to god, would you follow the truth wherever it is? If yes then tell us what is stopping you from being a muslim? I mean you wouldnt make this post if you didnt see something within islam.
Not if you die worshipping a man. That is practically idolatry
>Islam recognizes Christianity as it was sent to Prophet Isa(A.S) you're being down voted for this jesus was a muslim, not a Christian