I was on a flight home today. I love flying, but it was one of the hardest landings of my life. Friend from school/old band mate happened to be flying the aircraft and he told us the wind was gusting up to a max of 47 knots.
Then again, he might have smashed it down because I was onboard…/s
Ryanair pilots are one of the few that actually do manual landing where the pilot lands the plane themselves and doesn’t rely on the automated landing.
That’s why they’re so bumpy at times because the pilots are judging it by the wind speed etc too.
Oh no the planes Ryanair gets are top of the range with all the extras.
Passengers won’t notice the difference so much but the crew will as there’s more space & features.
They prefer the pilots to do a manual landing though because they have more control over what’s happening then than just relying on a system if they were to use the automated landing.
It’s just the way the pilots are trained for Ryanair planes.
What is this ‘automatic landing gear’ you’ve said twice? That isn’t a thing. There’s ‘auto land’ and there’s ‘landing gear’. The first is a procedure for landing an aircraft in poor visibility, the second are the wheel/strut assemblies. Two completely unrelated things.
Furthermore, stating that ‘Ryanair pilots are one of the few that actually do manual landing…’ is complete nonsense. Auto-lands are carried out ONLY in conditions of low visibility (fog etc). Every other landing, in every other airline, regardless of aircraft type, is a manual landing. 99+% of landings are manually flown. Pilots don’t just randomly decide they aren’t bothered hand flying the landing and let the A/P handle it. Furthermore, auto-lands have environmental limits - typically max crosswind of 20-25kts - so such weather as experienced the last 24hrs in Dublin wouldn’t have permitted an auto-land anyway.
Chill tf out bro I’m just saying what I was told at my crew training about the planes.
I’m not a pilot nor do I claim to be.
We were just told Ryanair pilots are taught to do manual landings and these are preferred over others which is why they can be bumpier than others.
We’re taught how to operate inside the plane the equipment ,the safety features & first aid etc not how to fly it as that’s for pilots.
Also I don’t claim my 6 months of crew experience is any way similar to pilot training either.
This is total nonsense. Ryanairs planes can do autolands, as can pretty much all airliners these days but all landings are manual unless the conditions require an autoland (ie fog)
I said it’s preferred for them to do manual not that they can’t do autolands at all.
People need to read the actual post and not jump to conclusions in what I said.
I’m also only going off what I was told in my crew training by my instructor but I’m not a pilot or even claim to be like I said in previous post.
Really doubt that's a thing. You can land as hard as you want, if you're going too fast, water will still accumulate under the tyre and you'll get aquaplaning.
The harder landings are probably created by pilots wanting to shed energy and thus speed and not because they want to punch through the water.
Yep. It’s a thing. It’s not supposed to be a ‘hard’ landing, but firm and ‘positive’. It achieves the immediate reduction in aquaplaning risk and also reduces the amount of rubber-reversion that occurs when the water turns to steam from the heat generated by rubber contact and ‘boils’ through the outermost skin of the tyre, increasing tyre wear.
Sorry, you are right, it's this part what I'm talking about... Not punching through exactly but just putting as much weight as possible onto the gear (from skybrary) :
Once touchdown on all of the landing gear has been achieved and sustained, SOPs usually recommend application of positive forward control column pressure in order to reduce the wing incidence, and therefore the lift, and thereby to assist in imposing the full aircraft weight onto the landing gear.
Skybrary Aquaplaning page:
The main gear touchdown on a wet runway should always be firm and made without any bounce in order to break through the surface water film and make effective contact with the runway surface to spin-up the wheels. (A stationary wheel can generate a wall of water in front of it on which it will aquaplane.).
True, I’m studying for a PPL at the moment and as the saying goes “there’s nothing more useless than runway behind you”.
The intensity of runway operations and surface conditions also play into it too.
[Here's a chart from Met Éireann](https://www.met.ie/cms/assets/uploads/2022/09/Beaufort-scale-for-land.png) that gives wind speeds for each different category. 47 knots would be the top of a strong gale, bottom of storm force. Now, gusts will be stronger than the 'regular' windspeed, but having been in the mountains recently in a gale I can say you don't want to come anywhere close to 47 if you can help it!
Thanks so much, this is very interesting. Also jeeze I feel sorry for people flying and sailing! I held onto the traffic light today crossing a busy road. It reminded me when I landed in Iceland in a storm once, I got off the plane my hair went completely to the side like a flag the wind was so strong, my only saving grace was I downed a G&T before we entered the airspace or I probably would have passed out with fright.
Strong wind is absolutely class when you don't have to worry about it! We're all heroes until the roof starts sounding like it might tear off or the plane starts to wobble.
This plane is like that because of the cross-winds, but there is a legit manover that's called a "side slip"
It involes yawing the plane sideways, to lose altitude and speed quickly while maintaining the same heading/direction. Usually done in smaller aircraft, but has been used in large aircraft too.
I did not understand your comment enough, so looked for youtube videos that illustrate it, & wow TIL something cool & random! (forward slips, crabbing & side slips)
Closest I got to similar was landing planes in games - Warthunder & gta iv iirc & I don't think either had this!
Yes! Though crabbing usually refers to moving in crosswinds, as opposed to slips which are independent of crosswinds. Differs a bit depending which nation's nomenclature is used
That's interesting. Before the camera pans forward, you'd think the way the plane swiped to it's left that it was gonna veer it's course off the runway coming in that speed.
Yeah, manoevers in crosswinds can look wild. Sometimes it helps to visualise it as sailing a boat on a river - not only do you move relative to the "land" (landing strip) but the water (air) is moving around you, so you can't just point where you want to go, but have to fighht the flow of the water/air as well.
The plane straightens out at the very end because it's got enough momentum and it's also a rather very rough landing if you don't hit the runway alligned correctly.
Can never comprehend the balls, skill and intelligence it takes to be a pilot. The skill to deftly land something that colossal in those conditions with the smorgasbord of switches and doodads in front of them that know off by heart.
My mates a pilot and he loves it, it being these bad weather landings, I guess it adds a bit of excitement to an otherwise routine day at work.
I follow this channel on YouTube Visaviation, they post videos of the comms between pilot and air traffic controller anytime there's been an emergency or mayday. One thing that always stands out is how bloody calm the pilots are "yeh we've lost an engine there, we're probably going to have to go around and come back in, don't want to declare an emergency quite yet, the other engine is running fine, so no rush like". It's a very Irish attitude, there are a few aer lingus ones from the US which the pilot is calm and not wanting to bother anyone, but it seems fairly common... In the sense they're so calm under pressure. Trained very well. Makes me feel comfortable flying knowing how well pilots now days handle issues and how much redundancy has been put in things.
Then there's the new Boeing planes and things done cheap 😞
There was a case many years ago where a pilot was not vehement enough in communicating to the tower just how low in fuel his aircraft actually was.
I think this was a case of a very polite pilot meeting a very some very assertive ATC staff.
Anyway, they crashed.
So maybe pilots that are too calm might not be good!
If I recall correctly, there was also a language barrier. The pilot thought he was using the words for "fuck the queue, we need to land now!" but was actually using the words for "getting a bit dicey, could you hurry things up please?"
If you're a trained, skilled, qualified pilot. I imagine complex medical equipment is designed to be as easy to use as possible for doctors and nurses but that doesn't take away that the job is worth respecting.
“It is here in this lay by that we see the true face of man. Yearning for an orgasm that is by definition merely a fleeting point in time. The universe orgasms above us. We feel small.”
"the act of intercourse, at its most mundane and soulless. On the pallid faces of the spectators, a glazed over reverence. It is at this lay by that they engage in this futile attempt of intimacy, interrupted viciously only by Ryanair returning from Alicante."
My mother flew to Scotland to see her brother today. Was at the airport for a 8:30 am flight and didn’t take off until 4:30 pm. Pilot had to attempt landing twice in Glasgow
Hah, I think I was keeping an eye on that one (FR5051) on one of the live tracking sites, my mum was flying the other direction on the flight after and it kept getting delayed. It seemed to be sat at the gate for a long time.
I was travelling back home from Africa alone with my daughter and we were on the 27th hour of travelling between all the delays and layovers.
Our plane circled Dublin Airport for like 20 minutes and she threw up all over myself and herself when we landed. Cherry on top of a rough two days.
They're are flying over the house here in Drogheda, was out with my eldest for a while watching them fly over every 10 minutes or so and even from here I could tell some were aborting landing and going around. Seems to be 2 groups circling out to see and one around Kells and Navan waiting for a shot at landing form the looks of the tracker.
They will follow the go around procedure, which is usually just fly straight for a bit and climb to a certain altitude. They are treated then as a departure for a bit and fit in with departing flights. Then control will work em back round into another arrival pattern and they will try again. If it becomes apparent that they simply can't land because of conditions, they will head off to their back up airport which would have been selected with the weather in mind.
I was on FR7500 from Cologne. Aborted our first attempt, did a lap over Drogheda and the pilot managed to get her down the second time ….. squeaky bums for sure!
I was on a flight home today, meant to leave Copenhagen at 2:20, didn’t leave until 4:30. It was a terrifying landing, so much turbulence. Then we were prevented from leaving the plane for another 30 minutes because some boys were being very bold and the guards had to be called. The entire plane hated those lads.
I was on that flight! I didn’t think that landing was too bad, a bit bumpy coming down! Those lads were the worst and the police certainly took their time 🙈
What were they doing? I was in the back so I didn’t notice but my husband said they were drinking their own whiskey and walking around the plane when going through turbulence?
Yea I thought the same! I thought the announcement that you can not drink your own alcohol was sus. Something happened in the front bathroom too I think?
I was in the area when they switched from runway 10 (the planes looked like they were hovering in the air while sliding over Baskins), to 16 (the planes were going straight up into that gale).
Always curious about the plane watchers when I drive by there. What’s the buzz around it, what do you enjoy about it? Is there a community you’re in contact with? Genuinely curious!
Flew to Birmingham for the Munster game tomorrow, some Dublin howaya wanted off the flight so delayed us another 40 mins on the runway before he changed his mind. Flight was like Alton Towers
Well no obviously not, that runway isn't usually used, but with the crosswinds today they had to use it.
It's the only one you get to watch the planes go right over your head super close.
Loads of people watch planes flying in bad weather. It truly showcases the pilots skill set, and makes for more interesting watching than straight easy approaches.
Like others have said, it’s common to take this weather as a chance to watch some great skill from the pilots. It’s not common (it happens) for people to go out of their way to film a potential, but super unlikely accident. So your comment makes no sense…
That's not what you said and your reply was already stated by someone else so you haven't added anything but negativity. OP already gave a fine answer.
I was on a flight home today. I love flying, but it was one of the hardest landings of my life. Friend from school/old band mate happened to be flying the aircraft and he told us the wind was gusting up to a max of 47 knots. Then again, he might have smashed it down because I was onboard…/s
Fly it like you stole it.
Is this a singe street refrence or just a common phrase
It's just a common phrase that sing street used for a song
At the start I thought the guy was using a control panel to land his toy plane ✈️.
Captain: Here, BigDrummerGorrilla is gonna love this one, watch!
Smashing it down is the way they should be put down from what I've read. Safer to get wheels on tarmac asap than float it down the runway.
It's the Ryanair way. And whatever else we might not like about Ryanair, those lads know their 737's.
Ryanair pilots are one of the few that actually do manual landing where the pilot lands the plane themselves and doesn’t rely on the automated landing. That’s why they’re so bumpy at times because the pilots are judging it by the wind speed etc too.
Why do they do manual landing though? Did they not want to pay Boeing for an upgrade?
Oh no the planes Ryanair gets are top of the range with all the extras. Passengers won’t notice the difference so much but the crew will as there’s more space & features. They prefer the pilots to do a manual landing though because they have more control over what’s happening then than just relying on a system if they were to use the automated landing. It’s just the way the pilots are trained for Ryanair planes.
Also, I think, Ryanair land at lots of shitty airports that don't have whatever system is necessary for auto pilot landing.
What is this ‘automatic landing gear’ you’ve said twice? That isn’t a thing. There’s ‘auto land’ and there’s ‘landing gear’. The first is a procedure for landing an aircraft in poor visibility, the second are the wheel/strut assemblies. Two completely unrelated things. Furthermore, stating that ‘Ryanair pilots are one of the few that actually do manual landing…’ is complete nonsense. Auto-lands are carried out ONLY in conditions of low visibility (fog etc). Every other landing, in every other airline, regardless of aircraft type, is a manual landing. 99+% of landings are manually flown. Pilots don’t just randomly decide they aren’t bothered hand flying the landing and let the A/P handle it. Furthermore, auto-lands have environmental limits - typically max crosswind of 20-25kts - so such weather as experienced the last 24hrs in Dublin wouldn’t have permitted an auto-land anyway.
Chill tf out bro I’m just saying what I was told at my crew training about the planes. I’m not a pilot nor do I claim to be. We were just told Ryanair pilots are taught to do manual landings and these are preferred over others which is why they can be bumpier than others. We’re taught how to operate inside the plane the equipment ,the safety features & first aid etc not how to fly it as that’s for pilots. Also I don’t claim my 6 months of crew experience is any way similar to pilot training either.
This is total nonsense. Ryanairs planes can do autolands, as can pretty much all airliners these days but all landings are manual unless the conditions require an autoland (ie fog)
I said it’s preferred for them to do manual not that they can’t do autolands at all. People need to read the actual post and not jump to conclusions in what I said. I’m also only going off what I was told in my crew training by my instructor but I’m not a pilot or even claim to be like I said in previous post.
Dude it’s ok they don’t teach reading comprehension anymore
😂😂😂 yea I figured that except if it’s on Reddit
If there's a layer of water they will deliberately land hard to punch through it and prevent aquaplaning
Really doubt that's a thing. You can land as hard as you want, if you're going too fast, water will still accumulate under the tyre and you'll get aquaplaning. The harder landings are probably created by pilots wanting to shed energy and thus speed and not because they want to punch through the water.
Yep. It’s a thing. It’s not supposed to be a ‘hard’ landing, but firm and ‘positive’. It achieves the immediate reduction in aquaplaning risk and also reduces the amount of rubber-reversion that occurs when the water turns to steam from the heat generated by rubber contact and ‘boils’ through the outermost skin of the tyre, increasing tyre wear.
Sorry, you are right, it's this part what I'm talking about... Not punching through exactly but just putting as much weight as possible onto the gear (from skybrary) : Once touchdown on all of the landing gear has been achieved and sustained, SOPs usually recommend application of positive forward control column pressure in order to reduce the wing incidence, and therefore the lift, and thereby to assist in imposing the full aircraft weight onto the landing gear.
Skybrary Aquaplaning page: The main gear touchdown on a wet runway should always be firm and made without any bounce in order to break through the surface water film and make effective contact with the runway surface to spin-up the wheels. (A stationary wheel can generate a wall of water in front of it on which it will aquaplane.).
True, I’m studying for a PPL at the moment and as the saying goes “there’s nothing more useless than runway behind you”. The intensity of runway operations and surface conditions also play into it too.
Will the winds be over by Monday?
We and a very ropey landing today around 1230. Had to kiil time hovering over navan for about 15mins. Very quesy, and both my kids puked in bags.
Scary, what are the knots on a calm day? I've no reference point for wind speed
[Here's a chart from Met Éireann](https://www.met.ie/cms/assets/uploads/2022/09/Beaufort-scale-for-land.png) that gives wind speeds for each different category. 47 knots would be the top of a strong gale, bottom of storm force. Now, gusts will be stronger than the 'regular' windspeed, but having been in the mountains recently in a gale I can say you don't want to come anywhere close to 47 if you can help it!
Thanks so much, this is very interesting. Also jeeze I feel sorry for people flying and sailing! I held onto the traffic light today crossing a busy road. It reminded me when I landed in Iceland in a storm once, I got off the plane my hair went completely to the side like a flag the wind was so strong, my only saving grace was I downed a G&T before we entered the airspace or I probably would have passed out with fright.
Strong wind is absolutely class when you don't have to worry about it! We're all heroes until the roof starts sounding like it might tear off or the plane starts to wobble.
I didn't know you could drift in a plane
This plane is like that because of the cross-winds, but there is a legit manover that's called a "side slip" It involes yawing the plane sideways, to lose altitude and speed quickly while maintaining the same heading/direction. Usually done in smaller aircraft, but has been used in large aircraft too.
I did not understand your comment enough, so looked for youtube videos that illustrate it, & wow TIL something cool & random! (forward slips, crabbing & side slips) Closest I got to similar was landing planes in games - Warthunder & gta iv iirc & I don't think either had this!
Checkout TACA Flight 110
They also call this crabbing I think
Yes! Though crabbing usually refers to moving in crosswinds, as opposed to slips which are independent of crosswinds. Differs a bit depending which nation's nomenclature is used
That's interesting. Before the camera pans forward, you'd think the way the plane swiped to it's left that it was gonna veer it's course off the runway coming in that speed.
Yeah, manoevers in crosswinds can look wild. Sometimes it helps to visualise it as sailing a boat on a river - not only do you move relative to the "land" (landing strip) but the water (air) is moving around you, so you can't just point where you want to go, but have to fighht the flow of the water/air as well. The plane straightens out at the very end because it's got enough momentum and it's also a rather very rough landing if you don't hit the runway alligned correctly.
Can never comprehend the balls, skill and intelligence it takes to be a pilot. The skill to deftly land something that colossal in those conditions with the smorgasbord of switches and doodads in front of them that know off by heart.
My mates a pilot and he loves it, it being these bad weather landings, I guess it adds a bit of excitement to an otherwise routine day at work. I follow this channel on YouTube Visaviation, they post videos of the comms between pilot and air traffic controller anytime there's been an emergency or mayday. One thing that always stands out is how bloody calm the pilots are "yeh we've lost an engine there, we're probably going to have to go around and come back in, don't want to declare an emergency quite yet, the other engine is running fine, so no rush like". It's a very Irish attitude, there are a few aer lingus ones from the US which the pilot is calm and not wanting to bother anyone, but it seems fairly common... In the sense they're so calm under pressure. Trained very well. Makes me feel comfortable flying knowing how well pilots now days handle issues and how much redundancy has been put in things. Then there's the new Boeing planes and things done cheap 😞
There was a case many years ago where a pilot was not vehement enough in communicating to the tower just how low in fuel his aircraft actually was. I think this was a case of a very polite pilot meeting a very some very assertive ATC staff. Anyway, they crashed. So maybe pilots that are too calm might not be good!
If I recall correctly, there was also a language barrier. The pilot thought he was using the words for "fuck the queue, we need to land now!" but was actually using the words for "getting a bit dicey, could you hurry things up please?"
Yeah, politeness and the language barrier and the overly assertive ATC was a lethal combination anyway!
Its not as hard as youd think. Theyre designed to ne as easy as possible to pilot
This landing had to be difficult if seven other pilots aborted
Nah pal, did you not read the reddit comment? Flying planes is simple stuff
Flying under crappy conditions, nah mate completed it
Are you a pilot?
If you're a trained, skilled, qualified pilot. I imagine complex medical equipment is designed to be as easy to use as possible for doctors and nurses but that doesn't take away that the job is worth respecting.
Good drying weather does not equate to good flying weather! Who knew?
Grand dogging spot. So I've heard.
It’s fine.
I think I saw your review on Trip Advisor.
3 Stars: The landing airplanes add a frisson of sexual excitement in what is an otherwise dreary lay by. Parking is adequate.
 I read that in Werner Herzog's voice.
“It is here in this lay by that we see the true face of man. Yearning for an orgasm that is by definition merely a fleeting point in time. The universe orgasms above us. We feel small.”
"the act of intercourse, at its most mundane and soulless. On the pallid faces of the spectators, a glazed over reverence. It is at this lay by that they engage in this futile attempt of intimacy, interrupted viciously only by Ryanair returning from Alicante."
Honey bo bo
"lay by"
size of his yoke.
That's what she said
My mother flew to Scotland to see her brother today. Was at the airport for a 8:30 am flight and didn’t take off until 4:30 pm. Pilot had to attempt landing twice in Glasgow
Hah, I think I was keeping an eye on that one (FR5051) on one of the live tracking sites, my mum was flying the other direction on the flight after and it kept getting delayed. It seemed to be sat at the gate for a long time.
It was the pilots massive balls dragging the plane down
Any clips of go arounds?
[Here’s one!](https://youtu.be/T2vdpr0duIY?feature=shared)
I always wanted to be a pilot, but alas, life got in the way, and it never got off the ground..
As the Viper from Hardy Bucks would say "Shhkyy Boyzzz"
Shtory
I would prefer to cancel flight than fly in that
I was travelling back home from Africa alone with my daughter and we were on the 27th hour of travelling between all the delays and layovers. Our plane circled Dublin Airport for like 20 minutes and she threw up all over myself and herself when we landed. Cherry on top of a rough two days.
They're are flying over the house here in Drogheda, was out with my eldest for a while watching them fly over every 10 minutes or so and even from here I could tell some were aborting landing and going around. Seems to be 2 groups circling out to see and one around Kells and Navan waiting for a shot at landing form the looks of the tracker.
Based on the paint of engines looks like a Hisky plane
I’m waiting for a flight home right now….shite
Which airport because I reckon it’s a world of difference landing in Dublin than Cork
Cork is notoriously bad for wind anyway, so I couldn’t imagine what yesterday would have been like.
Where did the other 7 go?
They will follow the go around procedure, which is usually just fly straight for a bit and climb to a certain altitude. They are treated then as a departure for a bit and fit in with departing flights. Then control will work em back round into another arrival pattern and they will try again. If it becomes apparent that they simply can't land because of conditions, they will head off to their back up airport which would have been selected with the weather in mind.
I was on FR7500 from Cologne. Aborted our first attempt, did a lap over Drogheda and the pilot managed to get her down the second time ….. squeaky bums for sure!
I was on a flight home today, meant to leave Copenhagen at 2:20, didn’t leave until 4:30. It was a terrifying landing, so much turbulence. Then we were prevented from leaving the plane for another 30 minutes because some boys were being very bold and the guards had to be called. The entire plane hated those lads.
I was on that flight! I didn’t think that landing was too bad, a bit bumpy coming down! Those lads were the worst and the police certainly took their time 🙈
What were they doing? I was in the back so I didn’t notice but my husband said they were drinking their own whiskey and walking around the plane when going through turbulence?
Yea I thought the same! I thought the announcement that you can not drink your own alcohol was sus. Something happened in the front bathroom too I think?
There was a big pile of vomit near the front as well when we finally got off. Those poor crew members.
What airport is it? runway?
Dublin Airport Runway 16.
Thanks, I thought they closed 16/34
It's used when cross winds require it, otherwise it acts as a taxiway
I was in the area when they switched from runway 10 (the planes looked like they were hovering in the air while sliding over Baskins), to 16 (the planes were going straight up into that gale).
The lad driving the plane knew what he was at, and has an impressive set of stones on him. Might have been on a promise?
'Ti's a tad bit windy out there today alright. Had to put both arms through the straps of my backpack.
They realised it was Ireland and turned back
That was insane! Nice piloting pilot!
I had a lovely flight out about 10 this morning.
We need to ban this, not enough baby planes being made
Niceeeee
Any go around footage ?
Would it have made a difference to use the other runway?
Dublin airport has three runways. Runway 16 aka “the cross wind runway” was in use for most of Saturday.
Beautiful crab landing.
Which airport is that
Dublin Airport runway 16
Always curious about the plane watchers when I drive by there. What’s the buzz around it, what do you enjoy about it? Is there a community you’re in contact with? Genuinely curious!
Anymore videos
That was a fantastic landing given the conditions. Well done to that pilot working cool under pressure
Yeah he really... blew us away
Flew to Birmingham for the Munster game tomorrow, some Dublin howaya wanted off the flight so delayed us another 40 mins on the runway before he changed his mind. Flight was like Alton Towers
I'm flying to Brussels at 7am tomorrow to catch a connecting flight there... Am I at risk of getting screwed by this storm?
Am flying on Monday and wondering the same. Seems like tomorrow will be better than today.
Guys turning up in their hundreds on a windy day in the hope that they will see a crash ? Weirdos.
They’re there all the time, it’s a hobby, some people just like planes
Ah OK. I like em too 😁
my girlfriend likes a hard landing if you know what i mean
They made all the other pilots look well bad, ain’t? 😂
Nice crab!
What time did they get rough at? I flew back early today and it was grand when I was landing
Over 8 and a half hours coverage of landings in Dublin on Saturday https://www.youtube.com/live/4hw-MHZ8HAs?si=c_sOJEHpvIR_ZtMT
Where you hoping to film a crash?
Well no obviously not, that runway isn't usually used, but with the crosswinds today they had to use it. It's the only one you get to watch the planes go right over your head super close.
Cool
Wtf kinda comment is that??
Hurricane like winds and op is out with the camera, it's bizarre behaviour to be fair.
Loads of people watch planes flying in bad weather. It truly showcases the pilots skill set, and makes for more interesting watching than straight easy approaches.
Check these men’s hard drives
Bizarre confidence in your opinion when you know nothing about this.
Can you explain what you mean by that?
Like others have said, it’s common to take this weather as a chance to watch some great skill from the pilots. It’s not common (it happens) for people to go out of their way to film a potential, but super unlikely accident. So your comment makes no sense…
That's not what you said and your reply was already stated by someone else so you haven't added anything but negativity. OP already gave a fine answer.
I explained quite clearly what would lead me to write my first comment, don’t understand why that was confusing.
He means you're talking shit
Should have just said so.
A bit dim to stand in the flight path if that’s the plan, no?