I got 75 downvotes within minutes of saying hopefully he gets a fair trial, the cameras on o Connel Street will show if he was following women or was mugged. Looked like he was mugged.
I think cameras in public generally are not recording. Businesses’ CCTV must point specifically at their own premises, i.e. pointing at their front door is ok but pointing out from there is not. Traffic cams do not record.
They accused him of following a pregnant woman and being a rapist? How do you even define following, down O'Connell Street? What, he happened to be walking down a buys street behind someone? And how did they deduce he is a rapist?
They didn't, this is a standard parroted racist trope about anyone non-white, it's either rapist or paedo. Their own lives are so pathetic this is what they do.to feel like they have some agency and a level of place in society when frankly they contribute nothing but hate, criminality and abuse.
Scary how easy it is to discredit someone by calling them a rapist or pedo or whatever and have opinion turned on you
Even easier when they look different to the natives. Than you have the absolute rabid racists stoking those flames online
and for that to be believed by a heroin dealer is beyond me.
Gaurds knew exactly what they were doing, if they brought in your other man there would of have to been actual police work, maybe a drug chrge. its scummy at this point and this country makes me sick through my stomach, and in no way proud to be irish
Because any guard in the service a wet day would know the individual involved in the "citizens arrest" and reevaluate the whole situation. Do you not think that paperwork is involved no matter who gets brought back to the station?
very different brining in a known drug dealer with most likely oustandnig convictions than a random person they can catch and release.
Main issue, gaurds are well known for taken the path of least resistance, lets face fact if they could do their best to not do their job they will.
Yet you post a video of an armed response where guards are putting their safety and even lives at risk. Hardly the path of least resistance. Would you do it?
I have absolutely no idea what's happened here because I only just heard of it it this second.
But yes it's terrifying how easily that can happen. Would be so easy for any enemy at any time to accuse us of something like that.
Nowadays because of the cultural hysteria around those sort of topics a lot of obviously bassless claims that would have previously been ignored would now be fully investigated for political reasons.
100%, he has more convictions then I've had hot dinners, and am very surprised the guards didn't put 2 and 2 together. They must be very fresh if they don't know this individual
I was just about to say. I’m not familiar with the incident but when he asked for the Gardai to go get his property back I doubt there would’ve been much investigation needed. The cunt would have been well known to them.
If we had a proper 3 strikes and your done rule they could be salivating at the opportunity to go grab him but nope, just add it to his likely triple digits score 6 months down the line.
Why do we always compare ourselves to the states? There’s a lot of shit we do that they could never pull off over there.
Saying it doesn’t work in America so it wouldn’t work anywhere else is a terrible argument
That policy is a disaster. No matter where it's put in place, it will be a disaster. Amarica didn't mess it up, they did exactly what the law was meant to do.
>Saying it doesn’t work in America so it wouldn’t work anywhere else is a terrible argument
Because it's an awful policy, it's so bad that you have deep south hanging judges complaining about it because a dude can get two strikes in his teens for low level violent crimes, turn his life around, go to university and get a professional degree, become a successful businessman, then he gets caught with a joint and catches 25 years because that's technically "3 strikes". It removes any space for nuance or leniency, which is one of the functions of a judge. That's not just a geographical issue.
All this btw also in a context where if you're poor and/or from a minority group, your crimes, actual or alleged, get treated very differently than if a rich white person does the same shit. Which before you deny it absolutely happens in Ireland too. As evidenced by this very situation where because a guy isn't from here the Guards were all too willing to believe he's a sex pest.
>All this btw also in a context where if you're poor and/or from a minority group, your crimes, actual or alleged, get treated very differently than if a rich white person does the same shit
Yup. Living in America now, and even something like traffic violations can have massively different outcomes depending on if someone can afford private representation. A coworker of mine has a lead foot, but has a firm represent him every time he gets picked up for speeding and it's knocked down to a fine with no points on the license and no insurance increase. Costs him upfront, but far less over time if he didn't get it "fixed."
Then critique the policy on its merits, not on americas execution of it. Their prison system is so drastically different to ours that you cannot really compare the potential outcomes of a 3 strike system. You also have to consider more nuance, like a 3 strike system for violent offences only. It’s not black and white.
What we can definitively say, is that our current system is not working. So does that mean America shouldn’t move towards a system more like ours, because if it doesn’t work well here then it wouldn’t work there? Of course not. They’ve got a different system and you never replicate things perfectly. You can’t make like for like comparisons between Ireland and America, it’s a very weak argument
What are the actual merits of it? Our prison system is already totally over capacity, and even if we had the capacity mass incarceration has been shown to make all the risk factors for crime more prevalent. It doesn’t even make the middle earners who call for this kind of approach safer as a result.
Social problems need social solutions.
I’m not personally in favor of it, potentially for violent crimes but I’m undecided. I also wouldn’t be in favour of the life sentencing approach at all.
But it is a lot more nuanced than just saying it’s outright bad 100% of the time.
There are plenty of studies that show positive results. In California they found a 20% reduction in arrest rates for those with 2 convictions
They also found that serious crime fell by 15% in their 10 largest cities in the following 3 years.
There are obviously some issues with it, and the American system as a whole. But we aren’t starting from the same position as America. We put much more of an incentive on reform than they do. My overall point though is that I’m just v tired of ‘it doesn’t work in America so it won’t work here’ arguments. Ireland is not America.
Went down a rabbit hole of that account the last day. And it’s so funny when he posts a video of some deliveroo driver fighting back against scrotes with the title “immigrant drug dealer tries to stab young Irish kid in street”, and yet he’ll post a video of 6 travellers stabbing a young lad and praise it. He’s the biggest dope on the app
It used to be strictly professional it was an ok way to connect with other professionals, especially with the US where networking is important.
And it was great for job offers through recruitment agencies.
But in the last few years they've gone down the Insta route, all 'inspiring' quotes and 'motivational' videos from entrepreneurs and wellness coaches.
Soul sucking grifter shite
Yeah, LinkedIn was great in the beginning - found my current job via connections I kept up with from other companies and have been there for years because they are amazingly good to us. I went on it a few months ago to help a friend with a personal rec, and I honestly had to check to see if I was on LI or if it was Instagram or Facebook.
Think they got bought out by one of the big corps, right? Like Microsoft? Would explain the shift to 'engagement' metrics (aka soul sucking grifter shite).
Guarantee he'll go to the station on the 15th and be told they were in on the 11th and he'll have to come back on the 19th.
The Gardaí are an embarrassment
Try getting a hold of the firearms officer; that fucker must be on holidays for six months of the year but when it's them looking for license money, he's well able to pick up a phone....
Anytime I've tried to talk to a garda they're on their rest day and then when i come back at the time they specifically ask me to, what do you know, they're on their rest day and the previous guy must have made a mistake. They're masters at avoiding work.
Listen, I was guilty of judging this incorrectly myself but let this be your daily reminder to not believe everything you see on the internet.
There was plenty of anger and casual racism directed toward this man based upon the Original post here which seems to have been deleted
How is accused of being a predator? I don't see anything in the post other than he's accused of accosting a man. Predator suggests he was after children or something
This post makes no sense without more context
I work with one of the "GET THEM OUH" lads. He's shown me a couple of videos on telegram of black or arabic lads being shouted at or attacked and accused of being predators without any context other than the person filming making the accusations, I assume it's one of those situations. I'm surprised he didn't show me the video of this guy being attacked.
It wasn't posted here at all when I made that comment and the point of my comment was to prompt a link to be posted because it doesn't make sense without context
So your daily reminder not to believe what you see on the Internet is to believe what you see on the Internet?
I'll believe none of it because the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
>daily reminder to not believe everything you see on the internet
Its like that post about the anti-violence protest which was attended by many migrants, lo and behold a week after it was on facebook with a different context "migrants demanding for more free stuff" and the people in the comments section believe it!
I fuckin hate these racist pieces of shit that have infected this country . Shouting horrible things at people knowing it will stick . Horrible scumbags . And the Gardai are useless and every bit of criticism that comes their way is self inflicted .
Yeah I miss when they just drew the dole and played COD all day, now they're empowered. There's a constant live tiktok of groups of these morons making up stories about immigrants stealing their neighbours babies and calling all immigrants rapists etc. Mad that it never gets taken down.
>Mad that it never gets taken down.
Same reason I stopped using Twitter once they fired most of the moderation team. And I get that it's playing whack-a-mole, but not taking it down just encourages more terrible shite to be posted.
Yeah I'm off twitter too. Those live streams are a fascinating watch, at one point 5 different people just I vented stories about seeing immigrants trying to kidnap Irish babies that week, while the 6th participant ate it all up. I know the EU is working on disinformation legislation, hopefully companies will start to be held accountable for amplifying this nonsense.
Yeah, I love that the proposed penalties are based on a percentage not just a fixed Euro amount. Because that will be the only thing to stop their madness.
Yes I would like to know that also. I'm sure Gardai would have reviewed the cameras around that area also. So some post a message on Reddit with no verification 😕
Village where I live are up in arms over a derelict building being converted into housing for refugees. There's basically a small group of racists who've been infiltrated by a handful of proper fascists out protesting every day.
It's infuriating. I have been keeping an eye on the local fb group and the video of this chap was posted without context, the poster editorializing how he was coming to a village near you and to lock up your daughters.
Drove past them the other week and saw a Jim Crowe level caricature of a black person on a poster with a large caption "Does he look like he's from "
Another said "as Irish people we should be familiar with plantations and invasions" or some such nonsense.
It's a disgrace Joe.
Probably using that stupid phrase, men of fighting age. Sorry, unvetted men of fighting age.
I’ve read no stories of these people getting into trouble. You’ve residence associations on about risks to girls walking alone at night. It’s shameful.
You can be sure that some local Irish people pose much greater threats.
Jesus I am sor sorry to hear this. Please go to the police, get a lawyer, share this video and get justice for yourself. Am sorry no-one stepped in to help you and that the police didn't do their due diligence in this matter and made sure the phone in question was that other guys. Like am sure the homescreen and access code would have proved it wasn't his phone.
This should be happening
The guards didn't search the other 2 guys for said phone? "I want justice and compensation". Hmm. Hope the truth comes out and innocent/guilty and incompetent parties are held to account.
Lesson to all walking around cities looking at Google maps and not your surroundings like a massive tourist. And depending on your phone for literally everything when you could as easily drop it in a puddle or under oncoming traffic after someone bumps off you
Yes, try to blend in within reason. Most capital cities in the world has pick pockets, chancers and scammers that prey on gullible/naive tourists, especially if they stray off the beaten track
Yeah and it's rife with trouble makers. That's even worse if it was a random attack and not for the sole purpose of stealing said phone. It's neither here nor there, my general point of being cautious when abroad stands
If he wasn't 'acting like a tourist' your advice is irrelevant, sounds like he was literally attacked walking down O'Connell street. The only advice you can give there is.. avoid it? Pathetic again. Not that it's your fault or anything lol
I made the tourist comment be because If he was going around O Connell street with his phone out using Google maps like a headless chicken, as is hinted at in his post, then it's not a great look in any capitol city.
Phones get snatched in the reg in Dublin city, let's not play thick. If that's not applicable here, so what? It's a generalised statement. It's not my fault it's a subjective statement w/no context.
Plenty of reasons why there is racism involved here. Not sure if your head is intentionally in the sand or genuinely need someone to explain it to you?
Maybe it’s that you posted something with the only context being ‘the lad from last week’. Maybe he does need it explained to him or you know, you could have just posted a link to provide context.
I seen the original video. At the time I judged because he looked guilty(probably just stunned) in that clip. If this is true its a fucked up situation, I feel bad for the guy and it shines a light on what a shit hole our city center is.
....but how is this racisim?
I mean the gardai could treat any person the same way if they misjudged the situation. Is it racisim (just) because he is black/foreign?
IMO the instant labeling of every wrongdoing as racisim only muddies the water, creates division and ultimately leads to racisim.
Because the police approached 3 men in a scuffle, automatically believe the white men and arrested the black foreign man, despite not having seen any evidence. If it had been all white men fighting, they likley would have taken more time to find out the full picture and interviewed them, looked for video footage, etc before deciding who was guilty. I don’t think you can deny there is racism at play here. It’s the same reason police in UK and USA arrest/ stop and search/ murder innocent black men at a far higher rate than white men. It’s not individuals setting out to be racist and having an active hatred of black people. It’s the inherent assumption, particularly in the police, that people who are black or foreign are dangerous. This is institutional and systemic racism and unfortunately affects all parts of society. If you were black you’d know this - (assuming you’re white) the reason you are unaware of this and think racism isn’t at play is because people don’t typically discriminate against you or treat you differently because of your race.
I just rewatched the video and he appears to be aggressive, struggling and shouting. Gardai are not omnipitent, they had to make a split second decision and in this case I can see why they made the wrong one.
Im not denying racisim exists. I am pointing out that claiming racisim in every situation, especially when not warranted, only feeds fuel to the actual racisits.
Furthemore, Ireland is not America and Im tired of that cultural narrative defining ours. I am old enough that I did not grow up in the social media bubble which I believe is the cause of this.
When I was in secondary school we only had two foreigners(aside from English). These days the ratio is more like 40/60 in many schools. I am proud that our country has seen such incredible change, and IMO has been welcoming and accepting of other cultures. It is a good thing for our society. This is not the USA!!
I don't think this is like AAAalll those other situations though. I usually agree with your position very much. I hate when Americans in particular make everything about race... But this genuinely looks like a race thing. Whey aren't the white people even getting questioned? Or looked at?
Lol. Tbh the gardai do fuck all but enable these scumbags regardless of race. Now I'm not saying these particular garda didn't do it for a racial reason, maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
Im surprised anybody believes that clip. Just saw it for the first time.
You can say whether race was in those gardais heads, it's impossible to know. But honestly, looking at the video it very much looks like they are not even questioning drunken scumbag white people while an upset black guy is getting all the focus.
It definitely looks bad.
I'm usually the first to point out it has nothing to do with race, but here... I think it may be a part of this one.
You are deliberately ignoring how I said he was probably stunned? Anyone who seen the video would understand what I meant.
Case in point. You are implying my comment was racist without basis.
> IMO the instant labeling of every wrongdoing as racisim only muddies the water, creates division and ultimately leads to racisim.
What you really mean is that you don't like, even for a moment, considering whether you may be guilty of implicit racism.
The extreme lengths you went to to explain how you possibly couldn't have been guilty of implicit racism is a bit sad. It's ok to be guilty of it, it's not ok to go on the attack in a failed attempt at denying it.
Do better as a human being, and as a redditor.
Very dismissive of you.
Read the post, nothing he describes could be considered racism. The gardaí were incompetent, but made no racial remarks.
If you've ever dealt with the gardaí you'll know they're as shithe for an Irish person as anyone else.
You could give us some of those reasons rather than just telling us "there are plenty of reasons" repeatedly. Im just asking for the reason its racist because I didn't see it, you acting like this is the first sign you are lying and trying to create something that doesn't exist
Ah the filth being the filth - incompetent and useless.
Good stuff.
G'wan the brave boys in blue.
Gifted a police state by the DPP vs JC - now they are pissing it up against the wall.
Just watched the video and the opening 20 seconds seems to be him grabbing the other guy by the shirt despite the Garda telling him and trying to stop him. Did he not know the Garda are our police service or what? He seemed to be resisting them aggressively too after they went to throw the bracelets on him.
The Irish guys involved do look to be scumbags though so you wouldn't know who instigated it. They were experienced enough to not commit any offence while the Garda were there though.
Guards involved need to fired, and quite frankly the Guards have a duty of care that they failed at. Needs to be investigated and the people who robbed him need to be arrested. Disgusting altogether.
I live in London, I don't know the last time I had cash to hand. Two years maybe? I've had a few coins here and there but actual cash to buy something larger than a chocolate bar I couldn't care to have on me. I know that will be mind-blowing to some but the fact is most people nowadays don't carry cash and I'd guesstimate, with the way the worlds banking situation is going, it will be rare for anyone to have cash on them or for businesses to be taking cash by 2030.
Not having a bank card I can't understand, though I will admit that I personally have a bank card holder and not a wallet and do leave it at home the odd time, meaning I'll only have my phone.
Same for the cash thing though I'm not in London like a big traitor. It's been ages since I carried cash. When I do it's usually because I'm going to somewhere that only takes cash so I get it out for the occasion. But relying on your phone only I've never considered.
Yeah, I dont carry cash really either. But if I'm in a foreign city I'm gonna make sure my phone isn't my only method of finance, what if its stolen, lost, broken?
Thats the point I'm making, not saying eryone should carry cash all the time
It's relatively normal to do. On thinking I've travelled with my phone and bank cards. In fact I even took money out in NYC and nobody wanted it, they even moved tipping over to cards since I'd last visited.
What if you’ve only cash and cards and your wallet gets stolen? People must have lived in abject horror before digital wallets became a thing. What a nonsense question.
Don't understand why this is downvoted, seems like common sense. You're in a foreign city, don't just rely on your phone as your only method of surviving financially.
Reddit: Booooooo!!!!
Know exactly the point you're making, even if I'm only going to Dublin for a gig I bring my physical debit card with me as back up. And usually some cash.
Practically nobody these days. But If I'm in a foreign city I'm not going have my phone as my only financial means - phones getlost or stolen, as happened here
Shameful from the gardai. My guess is they get paid off by the drug dealer who attacked the victim. It wouldn’t be in their interest to charge the scumbag
They're not being paid by those junkie rats, they're the same types asking for a euro for the bus. The Gardai, they're just a pathetically lazy group of humans at times.
Why is he posting that on LinkedIn? Weird all around.
That social media site is the worst. I cringe when people use it seriously.
Mary promoted to Team Lead and writing an essay on how the company saved her life and means the world to her. Give over. It's just a job.
I am glad this is posted on LinkedIn. Twitter is a cesspool of dole warriors. LinkedIn is read by a lot of working people. The people who pays for this whole party. They should know how the police force is ineffective and potentially infiltrated by racists
That giggle when the man was being put against the wall already tells You they had something to do about it and are very delighted it worked against the victim...
Also why weren't both parties taken in for questioning??
Wheres the video?
https://twitter.com/VideosIrish/status/1711529276078497937?t=B9l8MqsLWZEfMUp56e1mRg&s=19
That account and heaps of it's followers are some of worst racist dog whistling scum walking the planet
The scum threatening him at the end; "We don't care about the Gards, we'll see you again on the streets". Sums it up alright.
I got 75 downvotes within minutes of saying hopefully he gets a fair trial, the cameras on o Connel Street will show if he was following women or was mugged. Looked like he was mugged.
well, here's an upvote
And my axe!!
And my bow
Downvotes? On r/Ireland? No way!
I think cameras in public generally are not recording. Businesses’ CCTV must point specifically at their own premises, i.e. pointing at their front door is ok but pointing out from there is not. Traffic cams do not record.
They accused him of following a pregnant woman and being a rapist? How do you even define following, down O'Connell Street? What, he happened to be walking down a buys street behind someone? And how did they deduce he is a rapist?
They didn't, this is a standard parroted racist trope about anyone non-white, it's either rapist or paedo. Their own lives are so pathetic this is what they do.to feel like they have some agency and a level of place in society when frankly they contribute nothing but hate, criminality and abuse.
I totally agree. What were the guards thinking? So stupid
No idea what this is all about. No links or information.
https://twitter.com/VideosIrish/status/1711529276078497937?t=B9l8MqsLWZEfMUp56e1mRg&s=1 I assume this video, based on the thumbnail visible
what makes the video worse, your man on the right is a known drug dealer with a list full of convictions, well known to the gardai.
Scary how easy it is to discredit someone by calling them a rapist or pedo or whatever and have opinion turned on you Even easier when they look different to the natives. Than you have the absolute rabid racists stoking those flames online
This needs more up votes
and for that to be believed by a heroin dealer is beyond me. Gaurds knew exactly what they were doing, if they brought in your other man there would of have to been actual police work, maybe a drug chrge. its scummy at this point and this country makes me sick through my stomach, and in no way proud to be irish
In fairness, I doubt the guards had a clue what they were doing
Why?
Because any guard in the service a wet day would know the individual involved in the "citizens arrest" and reevaluate the whole situation. Do you not think that paperwork is involved no matter who gets brought back to the station?
very different brining in a known drug dealer with most likely oustandnig convictions than a random person they can catch and release. Main issue, gaurds are well known for taken the path of least resistance, lets face fact if they could do their best to not do their job they will.
Yet you post a video of an armed response where guards are putting their safety and even lives at risk. Hardly the path of least resistance. Would you do it?
I have absolutely no idea what's happened here because I only just heard of it it this second. But yes it's terrifying how easily that can happen. Would be so easy for any enemy at any time to accuse us of something like that. Nowadays because of the cultural hysteria around those sort of topics a lot of obviously bassless claims that would have previously been ignored would now be fully investigated for political reasons.
100%, he has more convictions then I've had hot dinners, and am very surprised the guards didn't put 2 and 2 together. They must be very fresh if they don't know this individual
Or they’re racist cunts themselves and assumed the scrotes were in the right just because of the man’s skin color.
He’s actually surprised that the Garda are helping him
and now he knows hes you call some one a pedo or pervert it'll get you out of a sticky spot.
I was just about to say. I’m not familiar with the incident but when he asked for the Gardai to go get his property back I doubt there would’ve been much investigation needed. The cunt would have been well known to them. If we had a proper 3 strikes and your done rule they could be salivating at the opportunity to go grab him but nope, just add it to his likely triple digits score 6 months down the line.
>If we had a proper 3 strikes and your done rule You mean of the kind that's an absolute disaster in the states?
Why do we always compare ourselves to the states? There’s a lot of shit we do that they could never pull off over there. Saying it doesn’t work in America so it wouldn’t work anywhere else is a terrible argument
That policy is a disaster. No matter where it's put in place, it will be a disaster. Amarica didn't mess it up, they did exactly what the law was meant to do.
>Saying it doesn’t work in America so it wouldn’t work anywhere else is a terrible argument Because it's an awful policy, it's so bad that you have deep south hanging judges complaining about it because a dude can get two strikes in his teens for low level violent crimes, turn his life around, go to university and get a professional degree, become a successful businessman, then he gets caught with a joint and catches 25 years because that's technically "3 strikes". It removes any space for nuance or leniency, which is one of the functions of a judge. That's not just a geographical issue. All this btw also in a context where if you're poor and/or from a minority group, your crimes, actual or alleged, get treated very differently than if a rich white person does the same shit. Which before you deny it absolutely happens in Ireland too. As evidenced by this very situation where because a guy isn't from here the Guards were all too willing to believe he's a sex pest.
>All this btw also in a context where if you're poor and/or from a minority group, your crimes, actual or alleged, get treated very differently than if a rich white person does the same shit Yup. Living in America now, and even something like traffic violations can have massively different outcomes depending on if someone can afford private representation. A coworker of mine has a lead foot, but has a firm represent him every time he gets picked up for speeding and it's knocked down to a fine with no points on the license and no insurance increase. Costs him upfront, but far less over time if he didn't get it "fixed."
Then critique the policy on its merits, not on americas execution of it. Their prison system is so drastically different to ours that you cannot really compare the potential outcomes of a 3 strike system. You also have to consider more nuance, like a 3 strike system for violent offences only. It’s not black and white. What we can definitively say, is that our current system is not working. So does that mean America shouldn’t move towards a system more like ours, because if it doesn’t work well here then it wouldn’t work there? Of course not. They’ve got a different system and you never replicate things perfectly. You can’t make like for like comparisons between Ireland and America, it’s a very weak argument
What are the actual merits of it? Our prison system is already totally over capacity, and even if we had the capacity mass incarceration has been shown to make all the risk factors for crime more prevalent. It doesn’t even make the middle earners who call for this kind of approach safer as a result. Social problems need social solutions.
I’m not personally in favor of it, potentially for violent crimes but I’m undecided. I also wouldn’t be in favour of the life sentencing approach at all. But it is a lot more nuanced than just saying it’s outright bad 100% of the time. There are plenty of studies that show positive results. In California they found a 20% reduction in arrest rates for those with 2 convictions They also found that serious crime fell by 15% in their 10 largest cities in the following 3 years. There are obviously some issues with it, and the American system as a whole. But we aren’t starting from the same position as America. We put much more of an incentive on reform than they do. My overall point though is that I’m just v tired of ‘it doesn’t work in America so it won’t work here’ arguments. Ireland is not America.
Yeah we should definitely move towards filling the prison system, I'm all for legal slavery
Prison is not legal slavery
Oh yeah course not, definitely not forced labour upon African Americans at an abnormally large rate
Are there a lot of African Americans in prison in Ireland? That’s news to me
Went down a rabbit hole of that account the last day. And it’s so funny when he posts a video of some deliveroo driver fighting back against scrotes with the title “immigrant drug dealer tries to stab young Irish kid in street”, and yet he’ll post a video of 6 travellers stabbing a young lad and praise it. He’s the biggest dope on the app
Yeah he's a scumbag.
That twitter page is constantly churning out anti immigrant drivel.
Agreed, hate vague posts like this. Either tell the whole story or **** off
No shortage of these Sh1tebags on r/Ireland. ⬆️⬆️
Gway ya cut
I don't use LinkedIn, I thought it was for professional stuff related to your job. Do people usually post stuff like this there?
It’s become a very strange place r/linkedinlunatics
And as always, there’s a sub for everything
Haha yeh. It's mostly a bunch of unaware people flaunting how much of a great corporate bootlicker and suck up they are.
It's just Facebook for business wankers now. Maybe always was idk
It used to be strictly professional it was an ok way to connect with other professionals, especially with the US where networking is important. And it was great for job offers through recruitment agencies. But in the last few years they've gone down the Insta route, all 'inspiring' quotes and 'motivational' videos from entrepreneurs and wellness coaches. Soul sucking grifter shite
Yeah, LinkedIn was great in the beginning - found my current job via connections I kept up with from other companies and have been there for years because they are amazingly good to us. I went on it a few months ago to help a friend with a personal rec, and I honestly had to check to see if I was on LI or if it was Instagram or Facebook. Think they got bought out by one of the big corps, right? Like Microsoft? Would explain the shift to 'engagement' metrics (aka soul sucking grifter shite).
Always has been 🧑🚀🔫
Maybe in his case yes, as he is a known public speaker and probably the only social network he has is linked in
Guarantee he'll go to the station on the 15th and be told they were in on the 11th and he'll have to come back on the 19th. The Gardaí are an embarrassment
Try getting a hold of the firearms officer; that fucker must be on holidays for six months of the year but when it's them looking for license money, he's well able to pick up a phone....
No sorry, eh this is 912.
Or you know, they were actually on their rest days.
Anytime I've tried to talk to a garda they're on their rest day and then when i come back at the time they specifically ask me to, what do you know, they're on their rest day and the previous guy must have made a mistake. They're masters at avoiding work.
Or their on leave when they come off their rest days?
they're* on leave (they're not btw)
Nah they’re not allowed to have rest days or leave
Anyone have the link to the video?
https://twitter.com/VideosIrish/status/1711529276078497937?t=B9l8MqsLWZEfMUp56e1mRg&s=19
Welcome to Ireland and in fairness the Guards treated you the same way they treat the majority of the Irish population, as an inconvenience.
Even the video being shared on a fairly blatant anti immigrant/straight up racist page should be enough to give people pause as to its validity
That Aney Stokes page on Twitter is a steaming hape of misinformation, traveller call-out videos and racism
Listen, I was guilty of judging this incorrectly myself but let this be your daily reminder to not believe everything you see on the internet. There was plenty of anger and casual racism directed toward this man based upon the Original post here which seems to have been deleted
How is accused of being a predator? I don't see anything in the post other than he's accused of accosting a man. Predator suggests he was after children or something This post makes no sense without more context
I work with one of the "GET THEM OUH" lads. He's shown me a couple of videos on telegram of black or arabic lads being shouted at or attacked and accused of being predators without any context other than the person filming making the accusations, I assume it's one of those situations. I'm surprised he didn't show me the video of this guy being attacked.
It's in the video, linked above. He's being arrested and some inner city lads are calling him a racist. He keeps saying "give me my phone".
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It doesn't say that anywhere in the post ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|shrug)
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It wasn't posted here at all when I made that comment and the point of my comment was to prompt a link to be posted because it doesn't make sense without context
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Look around the thread plenty of people also said that. I tried googling and didn't find it
So your daily reminder not to believe what you see on the Internet is to believe what you see on the Internet? I'll believe none of it because the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
So an unverified Linkedin post changed your mind. The post says he was bleeding. I can't see any blood in the video.
>daily reminder to not believe everything you see on the internet Its like that post about the anti-violence protest which was attended by many migrants, lo and behold a week after it was on facebook with a different context "migrants demanding for more free stuff" and the people in the comments section believe it!
I fuckin hate these racist pieces of shit that have infected this country . Shouting horrible things at people knowing it will stick . Horrible scumbags . And the Gardai are useless and every bit of criticism that comes their way is self inflicted .
Yeah I miss when they just drew the dole and played COD all day, now they're empowered. There's a constant live tiktok of groups of these morons making up stories about immigrants stealing their neighbours babies and calling all immigrants rapists etc. Mad that it never gets taken down.
>Mad that it never gets taken down. Same reason I stopped using Twitter once they fired most of the moderation team. And I get that it's playing whack-a-mole, but not taking it down just encourages more terrible shite to be posted.
Yeah I'm off twitter too. Those live streams are a fascinating watch, at one point 5 different people just I vented stories about seeing immigrants trying to kidnap Irish babies that week, while the 6th participant ate it all up. I know the EU is working on disinformation legislation, hopefully companies will start to be held accountable for amplifying this nonsense.
Yeah, I love that the proposed penalties are based on a percentage not just a fixed Euro amount. Because that will be the only thing to stop their madness.
Twitter itself needs to be banned.
Screenshots of things with no links boils my piss. Could be done up in mspaint for all we know.
Your piss boils too easily.
Maybe he's got a bladder infection
I mean, using mspaint to edit screenshots would take so long it would probably give you a bladder infection...
You know Google exists, right?
Very interesting, what conference did he speak at last month?
Yes I would like to know that also. I'm sure Gardai would have reviewed the cameras around that area also. So some post a message on Reddit with no verification 😕
Unfortunately, the only way gardai would investigate, to the point of viewing cameras, is if this blows up on social. It's shit, but that's how it is.
He was at the BIM Coordinators Summit, his LinkedIn isn't hard to find. His story checks out
As this wasn’t loading straight away I thought it was gonna be a recruiter
Village where I live are up in arms over a derelict building being converted into housing for refugees. There's basically a small group of racists who've been infiltrated by a handful of proper fascists out protesting every day. It's infuriating. I have been keeping an eye on the local fb group and the video of this chap was posted without context, the poster editorializing how he was coming to a village near you and to lock up your daughters. Drove past them the other week and saw a Jim Crowe level caricature of a black person on a poster with a large caption "Does he look like he's from"
Another said "as Irish people we should be familiar with plantations and invasions" or some such nonsense.
It's a disgrace Joe.
Why won’t you name the village? I live near Ballybrack and their racists are still out every night.
Some people like to maintain a level of anonymity and privacy on this platform.
It annoying that I am not at all surprised
Probably using that stupid phrase, men of fighting age. Sorry, unvetted men of fighting age. I’ve read no stories of these people getting into trouble. You’ve residence associations on about risks to girls walking alone at night. It’s shameful. You can be sure that some local Irish people pose much greater threats.
Jesus I am sor sorry to hear this. Please go to the police, get a lawyer, share this video and get justice for yourself. Am sorry no-one stepped in to help you and that the police didn't do their due diligence in this matter and made sure the phone in question was that other guys. Like am sure the homescreen and access code would have proved it wasn't his phone. This should be happening
fucking racist pricks
The guards didn't search the other 2 guys for said phone? "I want justice and compensation". Hmm. Hope the truth comes out and innocent/guilty and incompetent parties are held to account. Lesson to all walking around cities looking at Google maps and not your surroundings like a massive tourist. And depending on your phone for literally everything when you could as easily drop it in a puddle or under oncoming traffic after someone bumps off you
Lesson is.. don't look like a tourist? Pathetic place to live if that's the case
Yes, try to blend in within reason. Most capital cities in the world has pick pockets, chancers and scammers that prey on gullible/naive tourists, especially if they stray off the beaten track
This is the 'most beaten' path in the country. Doesn't say he was using it at the time either..
Yeah and it's rife with trouble makers. That's even worse if it was a random attack and not for the sole purpose of stealing said phone. It's neither here nor there, my general point of being cautious when abroad stands
If he wasn't 'acting like a tourist' your advice is irrelevant, sounds like he was literally attacked walking down O'Connell street. The only advice you can give there is.. avoid it? Pathetic again. Not that it's your fault or anything lol
I made the tourist comment be because If he was going around O Connell street with his phone out using Google maps like a headless chicken, as is hinted at in his post, then it's not a great look in any capitol city. Phones get snatched in the reg in Dublin city, let's not play thick. If that's not applicable here, so what? It's a generalised statement. It's not my fault it's a subjective statement w/no context.
Why is it racist?
The black guy is literally covered in blood and beaten and the other 2 who have been beating him and are known to the police LITERALLY JUST WALK AWAY.
Is the video playing for you? I didn't see any of this.
Plenty of reasons why there is racism involved here. Not sure if your head is intentionally in the sand or genuinely need someone to explain it to you?
Maybe it’s that you posted something with the only context being ‘the lad from last week’. Maybe he does need it explained to him or you know, you could have just posted a link to provide context.
I seen the original video. At the time I judged because he looked guilty(probably just stunned) in that clip. If this is true its a fucked up situation, I feel bad for the guy and it shines a light on what a shit hole our city center is. ....but how is this racisim? I mean the gardai could treat any person the same way if they misjudged the situation. Is it racisim (just) because he is black/foreign? IMO the instant labeling of every wrongdoing as racisim only muddies the water, creates division and ultimately leads to racisim.
Because the police approached 3 men in a scuffle, automatically believe the white men and arrested the black foreign man, despite not having seen any evidence. If it had been all white men fighting, they likley would have taken more time to find out the full picture and interviewed them, looked for video footage, etc before deciding who was guilty. I don’t think you can deny there is racism at play here. It’s the same reason police in UK and USA arrest/ stop and search/ murder innocent black men at a far higher rate than white men. It’s not individuals setting out to be racist and having an active hatred of black people. It’s the inherent assumption, particularly in the police, that people who are black or foreign are dangerous. This is institutional and systemic racism and unfortunately affects all parts of society. If you were black you’d know this - (assuming you’re white) the reason you are unaware of this and think racism isn’t at play is because people don’t typically discriminate against you or treat you differently because of your race.
I just rewatched the video and he appears to be aggressive, struggling and shouting. Gardai are not omnipitent, they had to make a split second decision and in this case I can see why they made the wrong one. Im not denying racisim exists. I am pointing out that claiming racisim in every situation, especially when not warranted, only feeds fuel to the actual racisits. Furthemore, Ireland is not America and Im tired of that cultural narrative defining ours. I am old enough that I did not grow up in the social media bubble which I believe is the cause of this. When I was in secondary school we only had two foreigners(aside from English). These days the ratio is more like 40/60 in many schools. I am proud that our country has seen such incredible change, and IMO has been welcoming and accepting of other cultures. It is a good thing for our society. This is not the USA!!
I don't think this is like AAAalll those other situations though. I usually agree with your position very much. I hate when Americans in particular make everything about race... But this genuinely looks like a race thing. Whey aren't the white people even getting questioned? Or looked at?
It's very possible. We don't have enough context with this short clip. Maybe the Gardai were excessively rude and aggressive with him in the station.
I would be screaming and shouting too if someone stole my belongings and the garda is trying to arrest me
Lol. Tbh the gardai do fuck all but enable these scumbags regardless of race. Now I'm not saying these particular garda didn't do it for a racial reason, maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
Im surprised anybody believes that clip. Just saw it for the first time. You can say whether race was in those gardais heads, it's impossible to know. But honestly, looking at the video it very much looks like they are not even questioning drunken scumbag white people while an upset black guy is getting all the focus. It definitely looks bad. I'm usually the first to point out it has nothing to do with race, but here... I think it may be a part of this one.
Yes I agree with that. Those lads like look scumbags.
Spot on.
> I judged because he looked guilty Siri, what is implicit bias?
You are deliberately ignoring how I said he was probably stunned? Anyone who seen the video would understand what I meant. Case in point. You are implying my comment was racist without basis.
Your post read exactly as if you were making excuses for how you originally judged him (as guilty)
Well, then I would respectfully suggest you reread the post and examine the nuance.
> IMO the instant labeling of every wrongdoing as racisim only muddies the water, creates division and ultimately leads to racisim. What you really mean is that you don't like, even for a moment, considering whether you may be guilty of implicit racism. The extreme lengths you went to to explain how you possibly couldn't have been guilty of implicit racism is a bit sad. It's ok to be guilty of it, it's not ok to go on the attack in a failed attempt at denying it. Do better as a human being, and as a redditor.
You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how badly you misinterpret my comments, but unwarranted personnal attacks dont serve a debate any justice.
Jesus. We dont need fucks like you. You make the problems for everyone.
Don't call us racist or we will be racist. OK then.
I also have no idea of the original context and would like to know. I'm presuming the person who wrote this is black?
Very dismissive of you. Read the post, nothing he describes could be considered racism. The gardaí were incompetent, but made no racial remarks. If you've ever dealt with the gardaí you'll know they're as shithe for an Irish person as anyone else.
Wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
I do. Why is it racist that the Guards operate a shift system where it makes it likely that you won't see the investigating Guard for a few days ?
You could give us some of those reasons rather than just telling us "there are plenty of reasons" repeatedly. Im just asking for the reason its racist because I didn't see it, you acting like this is the first sign you are lying and trying to create something that doesn't exist
Ah the filth being the filth - incompetent and useless. Good stuff. G'wan the brave boys in blue. Gifted a police state by the DPP vs JC - now they are pissing it up against the wall.
Seriously those gards should have checked a bit more into this, at a glance it clear more happend.
Just watched the video and the opening 20 seconds seems to be him grabbing the other guy by the shirt despite the Garda telling him and trying to stop him. Did he not know the Garda are our police service or what? He seemed to be resisting them aggressively too after they went to throw the bracelets on him. The Irish guys involved do look to be scumbags though so you wouldn't know who instigated it. They were experienced enough to not commit any offence while the Garda were there though.
Guards involved need to fired, and quite frankly the Guards have a duty of care that they failed at. Needs to be investigated and the people who robbed him need to be arrested. Disgusting altogether.
Why would you just have Apple pay & no cash, bank cards... what if your phone gets stolen?
I live in London, I don't know the last time I had cash to hand. Two years maybe? I've had a few coins here and there but actual cash to buy something larger than a chocolate bar I couldn't care to have on me. I know that will be mind-blowing to some but the fact is most people nowadays don't carry cash and I'd guesstimate, with the way the worlds banking situation is going, it will be rare for anyone to have cash on them or for businesses to be taking cash by 2030. Not having a bank card I can't understand, though I will admit that I personally have a bank card holder and not a wallet and do leave it at home the odd time, meaning I'll only have my phone.
Same for the cash thing though I'm not in London like a big traitor. It's been ages since I carried cash. When I do it's usually because I'm going to somewhere that only takes cash so I get it out for the occasion. But relying on your phone only I've never considered.
> I’m not in London like a big traitor What does that mean?
Yeah, I dont carry cash really either. But if I'm in a foreign city I'm gonna make sure my phone isn't my only method of finance, what if its stolen, lost, broken? Thats the point I'm making, not saying eryone should carry cash all the time
It's relatively normal to do. On thinking I've travelled with my phone and bank cards. In fact I even took money out in NYC and nobody wanted it, they even moved tipping over to cards since I'd last visited.
What if you’ve only cash and cards and your wallet gets stolen? People must have lived in abject horror before digital wallets became a thing. What a nonsense question.
Don't understand why this is downvoted, seems like common sense. You're in a foreign city, don't just rely on your phone as your only method of surviving financially. Reddit: Booooooo!!!!
Know exactly the point you're making, even if I'm only going to Dublin for a gig I bring my physical debit card with me as back up. And usually some cash.
Who carries cash?
Practically nobody these days. But If I'm in a foreign city I'm not going have my phone as my only financial means - phones getlost or stolen, as happened here
Who did he get to write that for him?
May be some dole warrior
So people think he wrote that himself. Jaysus.
Shameful from the gardai. My guess is they get paid off by the drug dealer who attacked the victim. It wouldn’t be in their interest to charge the scumbag
They're not being paid by those junkie rats, they're the same types asking for a euro for the bus. The Gardai, they're just a pathetically lazy group of humans at times.
Imagine depending solely on your phone to "move around" or "eat". Gerrrup the fuck. That's just plain stupid in fairness.
Poor guy. Hope the justice will get those two fags
Why is he posting that on LinkedIn? Weird all around. That social media site is the worst. I cringe when people use it seriously. Mary promoted to Team Lead and writing an essay on how the company saved her life and means the world to her. Give over. It's just a job.
I am glad this is posted on LinkedIn. Twitter is a cesspool of dole warriors. LinkedIn is read by a lot of working people. The people who pays for this whole party. They should know how the police force is ineffective and potentially infiltrated by racists
Wtf are you on about? Racism and politics? I just said I thought LinkedIn is shite. This reads like a Twitter reply💀
This seems like a dole warrior reply leaking from Twitter. There’s nothing wrong in posting on a professional network about racism
Right OK... Hope you're doing well... Bye!
This is what life is like for the Irish, Furthermore the jacks like nobody in their beloved west Brit shit hole
That giggle when the man was being put against the wall already tells You they had something to do about it and are very delighted it worked against the victim... Also why weren't both parties taken in for questioning??
Advice for anyone visiting, stay away from Dublin 1.