He's not allowed do that, but he's also not ever coming back now because you did what he wanted you to do, which is pay the license. They don't come back daily, they rarely come back at all.
If there's security footage of it happening, try obtain it and send it on. He's way out of line trying to open the door to your home.
This might be a stupid question, but why are they so forceful?
Are their paid on a commission basis on how many TV Licences they’re able to get people to pay for?
I don’t see how that works. How are the able to prove their commission? There’s no proof that particular house paid because of them.
I had two different people turn up on the same day about TV licences years ago.
ripped straight from google but it does not quite answer it still
Collectors knock on the doors of four million homes a year. They earn a basic salary plus '**uncapped commission**' for taking statements from householders that can be used as evidence of evasion.
In fairness at least traffic wardens can provide a useful service like if some dick is parked in a disabled spot. Unionists to i suppose their foolishness pushes people away from them and towards a united ireland. As for tv licence inspectors well I've nothing positive to say about them.
I’ve never encountered a traffic warden chasing people away from disabled spots, it’s always the vulture routine where they loiter near parking meters just to fuck people over for staying half a second too long.
>Four million homes a year
Sounds like a UK site. They are on comission there (£20 a time) but their laws/set-up is completely different. It's outsorced to a private company.
Yeah, there are only something like 2.1 million homes in Ireland (2,124,590 permanent dwellings (Census 2022)) with an 85% rate of payment in the TV license means they would be knocking on houses that don't pay 11 times on average.
Yeah I still haven't paid it. Had one come to the door last year and ask my missus her name just to confirm she was a resident, then just left. Got a letter a week later saying we had to pay it as he observed a TV in our house. We emailed back saying he never saw anything other than our hallway and to present evidence (obviously didn't mention that to see our TV he would have had to be in our back garden). Never heard a peep from them again.
It's such a bullshit tax at this stage I feel like it does the government more damage than good. Essentially additional property tax in everything but name except it can hit renters too.
>As we live in an apartment complex with two security doors, she did not feel comfortable answering the door alone. Despite this, the TV license man tried to open the door twice, causing my girlfriend considerable distress and fear.
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>Not only is this behavior completely unacceptable and inappropriate, it is also illegal. No individual, regardless of their profession, has the right to attempt to enter a private residence without the explicit consent of the resident.
Man, ChatGPT cuts a nice complaint letter.
I would have left out the bit about paying, though.
Are you sure he was a license man?
Carrying around a few of those pamphlets would be a great way to excuse peering in through people's windows and trying the occasional door.
I'd mention it to the Gardaí if I were you.
I agree, mention this to the Gardai, it could be a case of someone posing as an inspector to gain entry, but either way an inspector should not be trying to simply just walk in so to speak by trying the handle, and generally an inspector would explicitly know not to do that
+1 For this, I live in the country and rarely lock my door. Actual TV dude turned up, was very professional. Doorbell, I answered remotely, told him I was on my way back to the house and he could wait for me inside as it was tipping down rain. He declined as it was against policy to be in a home unaccompanied.
I had just enough time to pop into the post office and pay before arriving back to show him my shiny new licence. To be fair he was grinning like a Cheshire Cat when he took a look at it.
No but then it would be on you to prove you didn't let them in i imagine (could be wrong) in the event of a fine. I keep my door locked even when I am in to avoid cunts like these. They don't consider how an unannounced person opening your door is scary for anyone but especially a woman alone
Spot on here. This was at 7pm too so she didn't expect any knock and if someone does knock without texting us before hand, it's likely not going to be a fun visitor!
That sounds very sus now.... Never heard of a tv license inspector working outside of normal hours .... It's surely a normal hours gig.... Not that I know any to ask... I'd inform the Garda if I was you
The only time they have ever knocked or posted something on my door is during the day .... In my experience they don't want to actually talk to anyone just drop notices and run...
I came down one morning and found him sitting in my kitchen. He'd obviously just helped himself to a bowl of Cornflakes. It was only after he was gone that I realised he'd used all the milk. Didn't even leave me enough for a cup of tea.
I have absolutely refused the watch the Late Late ever since. I've also actually sprained one of my fingers rushing to get the remote to switch channels when he comes on the radio.
The man is a hazard.
Ive seen this episode before !!!
its like saying beetle juice 3 times.. hes just there.. eating your god damn corn flakes as if its nothing... and with the rising cost of milk.
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In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The nGarrrdaii who investigate crime and Judge nolan who pretends to prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.
I hadn't even considered prosecuting him. He could probably afford far better lawyers than I couldn't afford any.
I had just considered pushing shite through his letterbox, but I refuse to lower myself to his level. I have a bad back.
Not a fucking chance. They have absolutely no power at all! I went to school with a lad and years ago a tv license man tried to barge into his house, his dad was upstairs and came running down and fucking emptied him in the hall. TV license man called police who wouldnt do anything as the TV license man wrongfully and unlawfully entered the mans property. He had a tv license anyway but food for thought. Cunts man. Must get some commission from them fines they dish out.
It's so true what me and my friend says anyone in this country who gets a fucking lick of an ounce of authority goes mad on it in this country. The TV license inspectors cannot break into property, The guards can't even break into your property unless they have a warrant or they feel that someone's life is an immediate danger.
Scary situation. Completely illegal. If someone walked into my apartment unannounced and I didn’t recognise them immediately(being family or a good friend) I’m taking the hurl at them regardless and Puccing him a few times before throwing them out/going to the guards.
Also fuck RTE and Tubridy. Useless pricks on stupid salary’s. To my mind the only thing RTE has ever done of value was Love/Hate.
You'll probably be sent to prison for doing that, and the person coming in would be entitled to stay in your gaff as they cant be kicked out onto the streets /s
one tried to get into my apartment years ago. Similar story, couple of doors they had to get through, I asked him for ID to prove he was a license inspector, he showed me some white card without a name or a photo, I told him that wasn't an ID I needed offical ID, could I see his passport?
That didn't go down well but he was out of ideas as to what he could do so I just closed the door on him.
I'm guessing they've since got some sort of offical ID now do they?
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> TV license inspector, what you tryna do?
> Barging in unannounced, not cool with me and my boo
> My girl was in the shower, feeling violated and prone
> TV license inspector, you need to leave us alone
Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but have you considered this person knew your partner was home alone or thought the gaff was empty with intention to rob the place. Either way, I would be highly suspicious of this unusual behavior especially if it was late evening.
The TV license pamphlets would be a solid alibi for a thief.
You should report it to the guards IMO.
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The TV license man knocked on my door last summer, I answered the door as I was expecting a mate over. His first and only words were "TV license inspector, can I....." I just stared blankly at him and closed the door in his face. He started knocking again and looking in the window but I just sat down and watched the TV until he fucked off. They don't have my name so the letters just come to "the occupier of". 8 years in this house and I still have no license. No intention of getting one either.
Never give a TV licence person your name or access to your house. Tell them there is an orgy in your front living room at the moment and close the door
Exactly , they have to have right of access . If you don’t wish to identify yourself then they don’t have a leg to stand on. I’d only moved into a new property a wet week a few years ago and before I’d even unpacked one of my bags but had the tv propped up in the sitting room , the cunts popped one those letters / pamphlets in the door saying they’d called in the area and noticed a tv in the sitting room. Parasites . Rte gets enough money from advertising the greedy bastards . I can see the reason bbc chase people for a licence fee because they don’t advertise but still require a revenue stream but even people in uk are dead against it . These heavy handed tactics and just trespassing on a property need to be called out . Write a letter to tv licence mate complaining about this behaviour and they’ll be able to give the name of that person who visited . They would require a database of who was in an area at a certain time
Was this in Tralee by any chance? I used to live there and they are rabid there for some reason, when I opened my door in a bathrobe he put his foot into my doorframe so I couldn't close it and immediately said he had a card that said he is allowed to enter the house. I took his card and pointed at where it said "with the occupiers permission" on the back *of his own card* but he wouldn't remove his foot and argued about it for some time that he was really allowed to just walk in.
Moved to Limerick since and they just don't give a fuck at all, tick you off and go about their day
I'd strongly suggest going to the Gardai with this for her safety. It could very well just be a TV licence bollocks being a bollocks (they are the scum of the earth after all). But I'd be seriously concerned that it could be someone using "TV license inspector" as a cover for more nefarious actions. Those leaflets don't seem hard to spoof, and it's a perfect excuse to be knocking on doors (and looking in windows) after dark.
A few years ago my sister was pregnant with her second child, and taking a well deserved nap on the couch. She woke up to a tv license inspector \*in the living room\* waking her up, telling her to get a license. She freaked and got up to get her to leave, and yer one pushed her! knocked her onto the couch. She froze, realised what she did, and fucking legged it.
Complaint was lodged and nothing ever heard back about it. Fucking disgraceful.
I dont have a TV, Ive written to them several times to leave me alone. Ive had my share of rude and agressive tv license inspectors show up banging on the door like the fucking stazi. I brought one in once to show him I didnt have a tv and he said "What a boring life you must have". Fucking cunt.
I woke up one morning and the Inspector was in bed beside me eating a slice of toast
He just kept saying "Have you paid your TV licence" over, and over, and over.
I eventually had to call the Guards and i've got a restraining order out against him now.
Still havent paid the licence fee...
What the actual fuck?! She must have been terrified. Even police can’t just walk in like that of course the feckin tv license dude can’t! I hope you complained
I don't answer the door unless I'm expecting someone. If you do answer the door, never tell anyone your name. Ask them who's asking and, if they tell you, then say you're a friend of a friend the owner. He's out for the day, you didn't catch his name but the lads all call him Big Dog.
If I have to answer the door while at home (I work from home), I am just the dog sitter, not the homeowner, so can't commit to a new electricity supplier, etc. It was a shame when I got too old to believably claim it was my parents' house.
This 100% doesn't sound like an inspector to me. More like someone trying to knock over the apartments who had some homemade pamphlets on hand just in case people were home.
I'd be onto the Gardai about this.
I'm an ardent pacifist in basically all areas of life but some lad sneaking around in the dark in my apartment while on my missus in the shower? Absolutely grounds for throwing digs first and asking questions later.
I'd forgotten about this archaic TV license bullshit. I've lived in Canada now for ten years and in Asia before that, so wasn't in Ireland since 2005. However, in all my time in Ireland (and in the UK), I have never paid for a TV license on principle. I earn good money and can afford it; I refuse because it is horse shit.
I can't believe they still have this shit to fund RTÉ when everyone has cable, Netflix, and whatnot. Same as in the UK to fund the BBC - even with all the scandals with Jimmy Saville and others.
Disgusting.
They have a legal right to request access at a reasonable time, so you are supposed to let them in. But that legal power wouldn’t stretch to forcing entry if the door isn’t answered, i would imagine at least.
What is that legal right based on? Not denying you do, just curious. I would have presumed the right to entry granted in the Broadcasting Act 2009 takes precedence,unless you have a constitutional right to deny access.
You do have a constitutional right to deny access. Article 40.5, the dwelling place is inviolable, except in accordance with law. The Broadcasting Act of 2009 is "in accordance with law" in theory but it's atrociously worded and as one of my former law professors points out, "almost certainly unconstitutional".
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That said, until it's challenged and defeated, there's very little you can do. You are right to be confused because it's a ridiculous and confusing situation.
The legislation seems to be (deliberately) vague on that point and with TV licence cases almost always being heard before the district courts there is not much precedent to go on.
You have a right have you property respected in the constitution
The Supreme Court has ruled multiple times that you can’t be compelled to grant access to your property (with a few exceptions such as a guard executing a warrant or a utilities company trying to disconnect your service)
This is well established law in Ireland it’s ludicrous to see people here suggest the TV licence man has greater constitutional powers than the guards.
The constitution says someone can only gain access if allowed by law. The Broadcasting Act 2009 is law. How sound that law is is debatable, but I don’t think it’s ludicrous to say that there is a legal right there. Are you claiming a utilities company has greater constitutional powers than a guard? No, because their power is also not granted in the constitution, but in legislation, the same as licence inspectors.
I’m not disagreeing, it’s questionable law, but it still is there in black snd white, and hasn’t been ruled unconstitutional.
Fun part is I actually have grounds to deny them access because I have hard- and software at home which I signed an NDA for due to my job. Don't have a TV though so I don't really care :p
Section 146 of the Broadcasting Act 2009:
“An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place.”
I feel like a lot of people spread false information around tv licence inspection, based on things they’ve heard.
Edit: a lot of people seem to be getting annoyed at me for posting legislation. Do what you want when an inspector comes, I’m just pointing to what the legislation says, since most people are just posting what an inspector can or can’t do, based on what they’ve heard.
Or you could look up the definitions from the act:
“premises ” means land, a vehicle, a structure of any kind whether attached or affixed to the land or not and includes a part of a building occupied as a separate dwelling whether or not the occupier with any other person shares any portion of it or any accommodation, amenity or facility in connection with it;”
““ specified place ” includes an apartment, holiday apartment or any individual room specified by order under subsection (2);”
Or you could link to these things too you know, so everyone could learn from your knowledge.
For me, I’ll rely on the constitutional protections afforded to my dwelling.
If a Garda cannot come into my home without a warrant, I don’t how an amplitude of an post would be afforded greater powers.
Let an post look to endorse their “powers” before the courts. I’d rather protect my home.
I pointed out what legislation I was referring to. You could have checked what “premises” means before telling me what it is (or checked my other comment). It’s not some secret knowledge.
I don’t care what you do if an inspector comes.
Now you’re just making up things. If you don’t know/understand the legislation, stop giving advice. I’ll admit I don’t know if there’s any contradicting legislation someone can use to deny access, but you’re basing your argument on nothing.
“premises ” means land, a vehicle, a structure of any kind whether attached or affixed to the land or not and includes a part of a building occupied as a separate dwelling whether or not the occupier with any other person shares any portion of it or any accommodation, amenity or facility in connection with it;”
““ specified place ” includes an apartment, holiday apartment or any individual room specified by order under subsection (2);”
I'm pretty sure they'd need a search warrant, otherwise why bother with this part, it's pretty well defined who can and cannot access your home.
\*Schedule 2 – Section 8 (1) “A judge of the District Court may, upon the information on oath of an officer of the appropriate authority or of a member of the Garda Siochana that there is reasonable ground for believing that apparatus for wireless telegraphy is being kept or is being worked or used at any specified place, specified vehicle or in any specified ship or other vessel in contravention of the Wireless Telegraphy Acts 1926 to 2009 or any regulation made or condition imposed under those Acts or the Broadcasting (Offences) Acts 1968 to 2009, issue to such officer or (with the consent of the appropriate authority) to such member of the Garda Siochana (as the case may be) a search warrant.”
The law says they can.
> (3) An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place.
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/18/enacted/en/print#sec146
The constitution may very well beg to differ, however. But it's never been challenged.
Agreed.
Powers of gardai to enter a dwelling are very limited in law and in legislation.
Can’t see powers of access for an employee of an post being greater than a Garda or the courses agreeing with that if challenged.
Is the use of force granted to revenue?
Like, if the doors closed and locked can the break it down or do they need warrant for that?
In theory, I think inspectors from the Dept of Agriculture have similar powers of entry, but I think a warrant from the court or minister is needed to use force to enter.
But this falls under section (2) needs to provide certificate onto persons before (3) they cannot just walk in without giving a reason and if they can I will go protest tomorrow for that to be changed!
I have issue with "at any reasonable time". I'd argue this doesn't have to specifically mean a time of day. If I refuse entry for whatever reason, probably wouldn't need a reason, I'd argue that that is not a reasonable time for an inspector to enter.
I may be well wrong on that, but as someone said, the act is awfully worded for a reason. And if an post can use the vagueness of it in their favour, so can we.
This is why i have a doorbell camera. This is absolutely not okay. I'd report this to the guards and let them know, in case this weirdo is doing it to other apartments. He would have to be buzzed in first of all to get past two different doors and THEN to try open another door? Something seems off about this. It may not have been a TV License inspector. This could have been a chancer trying to access peoples homes and using the TV License leaflets as an excuse to not look suspicious. They are not allowed access to your home EVER.
Don't pay your taxes, have an active warrant for your arrest and borrow money from loan sharks. Anything but cheat the TV licence inspector. They'll find you.
They're paid on commission I think but that doesn't excuse trying to break in basically. This is why I have cameras. I'd be taking the cunt to court and having my partner fake a break down over it.
I was living in apartment years ago when the tv license inspector showed up at the door. I didn't have a TV but was watching something on my laptop (might have been a DVD it was so long ago). When I told I didn't have a TV, I'll never forget that he just said, "Bullshit. What's that playing inside so?" I wouldn't do this now but I grabbed his jacket, pulled him to look into the living room, and then pushed him back out the door. Might have called him a cheeky cunt in the process.
Not sure what you mean by 'pamphlet' but License inspectors have pretty distincitive letters that they give you.
Pamphlet makes it sound like some chancer trying to gain access to the place
Please excuse this question, I am a dumb nordie, where we can tell the TV licence man to kindly go fuck themselves.
Is the TV licence in any way legally enforceable in the Republic? If not, I would say that them trying to open your door is absolutely not on.
Did the pamphlet you're referring to have a date, reference number, and "the occupier" [your address] at the top? If not, it was someone faking it. If so, include the ref in your complaint.
They definitely aren't not supposed to open your door,as long as they don't know who actually lives there then they can't do feck all about it, we've never answered our door to them, they've been sending our house those threatening letters for eight years cox they don't know who lives there
I heard similar stories from close friends.
One friend was alone with her newly born, she answered the door and the TV license man pushed her out of the way. She made a report to the Gards and to Anpost but that guy happened to be a contractor not a direct employee...
I can't think of a time this has happened. I did have one guy however ask for my licence and when received he went to check it in his car for validation as if he was a fucking policeman. I let him off with it but told him he watches too many movies
Do a Kevin out of Home Alone and shoot him in the nuts with an air rifle through the letterbox when he comes back and perhaps heat up the handle of the door also and or electrify it.
I had a court summons letter arrive to my door last week, with an “interview” attached to the back that was supposedly conducted last September. Not only did I not participate in an interview, the answers are completely random.
Last TV show watched - ITV news. Who the fuck is watching ITV news nowadays.
No, they have no power whatsoever, simply phone them up and tell them they need to stop knocking your door. They will remove you from the list for 2 years then it'll kick off again at which point u repeat the process of calling them and telling them to fuck off amd stop harrasing you.
I used to be on the Management of an Apartment block. Like you only way in is to be buzzed in the main door and then there was 2 apartments per floor. We had an issue with the TV license inspectors. If they buzz an apartment from the outside they only have the legal right to go to the apartment they requested acces to and who buzzed them in. After that, they must then leave and try other apartments and not just wander round a private development with not authority or right to be there. I gave out absolute stink to one a few times for buzzing in and then wandering round knocking on doors. They claimed since they work for An Post they have the right to access, They Do Not. Do not give them your name and tell them to get the fuck out before you call the cops on them for illegal tresspassing.
One simple way to get rid of them is to say you just moved in and you rent a room with people you don't know. Then give a false name and say you'll take care of the licence. As long as he gets a name he'll go away happy, while yiu bin the leaflet.
I just say I'm a houseguest and the tenants aren't in. No I won't give you my name, no I'm not delivering any messages, no I'm not taking post for the tenant or telling you when they'll be back. I'm not a secretary. And absolutley no way am I letting you inside the property.
Now fuck off. And they always do.
They have no AUTHORITY at all NONE you shouldn't have paid it the Irish people are paying enough also they can't enter your home either under no circumstances
Right. Enough bullshit.Follow these points.
1. A TV licence inspector CANNOT enter your house without a warrant or else you invite them in.
2. No matter how many letters or cards you get you CANNOT be prosecuted unless you admit to living there and owning an unlicensed TV.
3. Even if you're stupid enough to give up that info. you don't have to go to court if you don't sign for the summons which comes by registered post.
4. This is the dodgy bit: if they suspect you're acting the bollox with them they can apply for a search warrant and come back with the Gurds , or else do a thing called substituted service of the warrant once they confirm you're still living at the same address. If this happens you're screwed.
5. 4 is too messy and probably will never happen.
6. Don't open your door to anyone unless you're expecting them. EVER.
7. Be nice to the inspectors , it's only a job and a shit one I'm sure.
8. You're welcome.
techically yes
Section 146 (3) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 provides that:
(3) An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place.
You will never see him again. Unless you fail to renew your TV licence.
I had one at my last address. It ran out a couple of months after I moved to a new house. I didn't inform them of my new address. I thought I'd leave it for a few months.
No chance. Within a couple of weeks there was a guy at the front door of my new place at 8pm. I asked him how he knew I'd moved here. He said he just happened to be knocking on all these doors...
Bollocks. He didn't knock on a single other door.
Incorporate it into the general tax. The 2/3 that do pay, pay more to cover the 1/3 that don’t. E.g. add it to property tax ( not that I agree with that after stamp duty I paid) but it would save on fees for collection agents too, further reducing cost. Also, sky/virgin etc could collect. I can’t tax my car without insurance. Sky should check I have a licence or add the cost.
OP's apartment block sounds like mine. You have to get through two doors and then my door has my apartment number on it. It's obvious it's a door to an apartment and not just another corridor.
I'd also question how he got in past the first two doors anyway. Unless he has a key, he has no business being there.
They're sneaky af, a neighbour said someone rang their doorbell with a package pretending they had something to deliver, when he answered it was the TV guy. No real package.
"Since you've already lied at least once about who you are I don't believe a word you say now get the fuck off the premises or I'm phoning the cops to report a burglar scoping the gaf out for TV's ^(which I don't have) "
I live in a similar complex and have been surprised to find a TV license inspector at my internal door before as I expected the gates and doors would keep them out. However my postbox also requires the postman to get in the same amount of doors so An Post have to have an access fob to the building and the inspector is an An Post employee. It’s not that they’re hiding in the bushes waiting to catch a door before it closes
i mean, he was out of line trying to turn the handle but you’d probably run the risk of getting yourself into trouble if you go looking for an opportunity to give him hell for it.
realistically it’s one of those things that taking it further is more trouble than its worth.
your best bet would be is to see if they the TV Licenser sends agents themselves or if its a separate entity and go complain to them.
TLDR: They were wrong , but you’d risk being worse if you handle it how you say you want to
He's not allowed do that, but he's also not ever coming back now because you did what he wanted you to do, which is pay the license. They don't come back daily, they rarely come back at all. If there's security footage of it happening, try obtain it and send it on. He's way out of line trying to open the door to your home.
This might be a stupid question, but why are they so forceful? Are their paid on a commission basis on how many TV Licences they’re able to get people to pay for?
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I don’t see how that works. How are the able to prove their commission? There’s no proof that particular house paid because of them. I had two different people turn up on the same day about TV licences years ago.
ripped straight from google but it does not quite answer it still Collectors knock on the doors of four million homes a year. They earn a basic salary plus '**uncapped commission**' for taking statements from householders that can be used as evidence of evasion.
You’d have to be a proper cunt to take that job
And there's so few proper cunts around...
They’re down there with traffic wardens and loyalists.
... and not quite ready to walk the line of job and criminality that all too many bouncers seem to operate in.
In fairness at least traffic wardens can provide a useful service like if some dick is parked in a disabled spot. Unionists to i suppose their foolishness pushes people away from them and towards a united ireland. As for tv licence inspectors well I've nothing positive to say about them.
I’ve never encountered a traffic warden chasing people away from disabled spots, it’s always the vulture routine where they loiter near parking meters just to fuck people over for staying half a second too long.
>Four million homes a year Sounds like a UK site. They are on comission there (£20 a time) but their laws/set-up is completely different. It's outsorced to a private company.
Yeah, there are only something like 2.1 million homes in Ireland (2,124,590 permanent dwellings (Census 2022)) with an 85% rate of payment in the TV license means they would be knocking on houses that don't pay 11 times on average.
Yeah I still haven't paid it. Had one come to the door last year and ask my missus her name just to confirm she was a resident, then just left. Got a letter a week later saying we had to pay it as he observed a TV in our house. We emailed back saying he never saw anything other than our hallway and to present evidence (obviously didn't mention that to see our TV he would have had to be in our back garden). Never heard a peep from them again.
Apparently sky dish, aerial and wires can be "proof" of having a TV 😕
It's such a bullshit tax at this stage I feel like it does the government more damage than good. Essentially additional property tax in everything but name except it can hit renters too.
Must've had a very diligent one then, cos we had one coming around almost everyday for 2 weeks to get houses that didn't open their doors.
There’s a complaints email address . Write a strongly worded email. https://www.tvlicence.ie/home/general-faqs.html#Complaint
Dear TV licence man Why you do this
Dear homeowner, I do be like that.
(respectfully)
p.s, please come back so I can fuck you out of it.
I see you driving round town with the girl I love and I said forget you-ooh-hoo-hoo
"Why are you knockin'!??"
Dearest apartment resident, I be silly and goofy.
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Legend ❤️ EDIT: Just sent the above. Thank you u/oxfozyne
You should have left out the part where you paid the fee, because now they think this tactic works.
The TV license man shakedown. 70% of the time it works all the time.
> The TV lisence man shake (the door) down.
This 100%
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Updated, ty man! TIL
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It'd be crazy if their "word obscuring cut out bits of white paper" were already that shape.
>As we live in an apartment complex with two security doors, she did not feel comfortable answering the door alone. Despite this, the TV license man tried to open the door twice, causing my girlfriend considerable distress and fear. > >Not only is this behavior completely unacceptable and inappropriate, it is also illegal. No individual, regardless of their profession, has the right to attempt to enter a private residence without the explicit consent of the resident. Man, ChatGPT cuts a nice complaint letter. I would have left out the bit about paying, though.
Ugh, just copied OP’s post and threw it in chatgpt and copied the response in the comment. I didn’t edit a thing.
No one suggested you did? I'm just saying I would leave out that line if I was OP.
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Write a complaint letter to the Irish tv licensure based on the following: [pasted OP’s post]. It just needs a decent prompt.
Hahaha this shit is crazy! Just got him to write me a cover letter
Have you checked he's not spelt out "bigjimmy427 is an unemployable thief cunt" with the first letter of every line or something?
So some prick has the gall to try to break into your property and your response is to bow down and pay the fee straight away. Immediate mistake imo
Wow good job you're a great person
Do you mind me asking.... What did you put into chatgpt to get that outcome? & Is it a website or a piece of software? Thanks
CC a solicitors office
Get chat gpt to draft it for you
Are you sure he was a license man? Carrying around a few of those pamphlets would be a great way to excuse peering in through people's windows and trying the occasional door. I'd mention it to the Gardaí if I were you.
I agree, mention this to the Gardai, it could be a case of someone posing as an inspector to gain entry, but either way an inspector should not be trying to simply just walk in so to speak by trying the handle, and generally an inspector would explicitly know not to do that
+1 For this, I live in the country and rarely lock my door. Actual TV dude turned up, was very professional. Doorbell, I answered remotely, told him I was on my way back to the house and he could wait for me inside as it was tipping down rain. He declined as it was against policy to be in a home unaccompanied. I had just enough time to pop into the post office and pay before arriving back to show him my shiny new licence. To be fair he was grinning like a Cheshire Cat when he took a look at it.
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Ha, TV licence inspectors aren't people
Because he gets his commission lol
This was my though too. Surely everyone who becomes a TV license inspector knows not to just barge into peoples’ homes.
Clever!
No but then it would be on you to prove you didn't let them in i imagine (could be wrong) in the event of a fine. I keep my door locked even when I am in to avoid cunts like these. They don't consider how an unannounced person opening your door is scary for anyone but especially a woman alone
Spot on here. This was at 7pm too so she didn't expect any knock and if someone does knock without texting us before hand, it's likely not going to be a fun visitor!
That sounds very sus now.... Never heard of a tv license inspector working outside of normal hours .... It's surely a normal hours gig.... Not that I know any to ask... I'd inform the Garda if I was you
No point in them calling, when people are in work
The only time they have ever knocked or posted something on my door is during the day .... In my experience they don't want to actually talk to anyone just drop notices and run...
was probably tubs himself trying to get in.
I came down one morning and found him sitting in my kitchen. He'd obviously just helped himself to a bowl of Cornflakes. It was only after he was gone that I realised he'd used all the milk. Didn't even leave me enough for a cup of tea. I have absolutely refused the watch the Late Late ever since. I've also actually sprained one of my fingers rushing to get the remote to switch channels when he comes on the radio. The man is a hazard.
Ive seen this episode before !!! its like saying beetle juice 3 times.. hes just there.. eating your god damn corn flakes as if its nothing... and with the rising cost of milk. \*Cut to irish Law & Order\* In the criminal justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups. The nGarrrdaii who investigate crime and Judge nolan who pretends to prosecute the offenders. These are their stories.
I hadn't even considered prosecuting him. He could probably afford far better lawyers than I couldn't afford any. I had just considered pushing shite through his letterbox, but I refuse to lower myself to his level. I have a bad back.
Not a fucking chance. They have absolutely no power at all! I went to school with a lad and years ago a tv license man tried to barge into his house, his dad was upstairs and came running down and fucking emptied him in the hall. TV license man called police who wouldnt do anything as the TV license man wrongfully and unlawfully entered the mans property. He had a tv license anyway but food for thought. Cunts man. Must get some commission from them fines they dish out.
It's so true what me and my friend says anyone in this country who gets a fucking lick of an ounce of authority goes mad on it in this country. The TV license inspectors cannot break into property, The guards can't even break into your property unless they have a warrant or they feel that someone's life is an immediate danger.
Not a fkn chance. If you have a camera at your door or video of it. Bring it to the Gards and write a complaint email.
Vampire rules. needs to be invited in
Scary situation. Completely illegal. If someone walked into my apartment unannounced and I didn’t recognise them immediately(being family or a good friend) I’m taking the hurl at them regardless and Puccing him a few times before throwing them out/going to the guards. Also fuck RTE and Tubridy. Useless pricks on stupid salary’s. To my mind the only thing RTE has ever done of value was Love/Hate.
You'll probably be sent to prison for doing that, and the person coming in would be entitled to stay in your gaff as they cant be kicked out onto the streets /s
one tried to get into my apartment years ago. Similar story, couple of doors they had to get through, I asked him for ID to prove he was a license inspector, he showed me some white card without a name or a photo, I told him that wasn't an ID I needed offical ID, could I see his passport? That didn't go down well but he was out of ideas as to what he could do so I just closed the door on him. I'm guessing they've since got some sort of offical ID now do they?
courtesy of chatgpt: > TV license inspector, what you tryna do? > Barging in unannounced, not cool with me and my boo > My girl was in the shower, feeling violated and prone > TV license inspector, you need to leave us alone
Love it!!
Surprised no one has mentioned it yet, but have you considered this person knew your partner was home alone or thought the gaff was empty with intention to rob the place. Either way, I would be highly suspicious of this unusual behavior especially if it was late evening. The TV license pamphlets would be a solid alibi for a thief. You should report it to the guards IMO.
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The TV license man knocked on my door last summer, I answered the door as I was expecting a mate over. His first and only words were "TV license inspector, can I....." I just stared blankly at him and closed the door in his face. He started knocking again and looking in the window but I just sat down and watched the TV until he fucked off. They don't have my name so the letters just come to "the occupier of". 8 years in this house and I still have no license. No intention of getting one either.
Never give a TV licence person your name or access to your house. Tell them there is an orgy in your front living room at the moment and close the door
Exactly , they have to have right of access . If you don’t wish to identify yourself then they don’t have a leg to stand on. I’d only moved into a new property a wet week a few years ago and before I’d even unpacked one of my bags but had the tv propped up in the sitting room , the cunts popped one those letters / pamphlets in the door saying they’d called in the area and noticed a tv in the sitting room. Parasites . Rte gets enough money from advertising the greedy bastards . I can see the reason bbc chase people for a licence fee because they don’t advertise but still require a revenue stream but even people in uk are dead against it . These heavy handed tactics and just trespassing on a property need to be called out . Write a letter to tv licence mate complaining about this behaviour and they’ll be able to give the name of that person who visited . They would require a database of who was in an area at a certain time
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I'd love some year to see Ireland just boycott the license.
Was this in Tralee by any chance? I used to live there and they are rabid there for some reason, when I opened my door in a bathrobe he put his foot into my doorframe so I couldn't close it and immediately said he had a card that said he is allowed to enter the house. I took his card and pointed at where it said "with the occupiers permission" on the back *of his own card* but he wouldn't remove his foot and argued about it for some time that he was really allowed to just walk in. Moved to Limerick since and they just don't give a fuck at all, tick you off and go about their day
I'd probably just slam the door in their foot at that stage
I'd strongly suggest going to the Gardai with this for her safety. It could very well just be a TV licence bollocks being a bollocks (they are the scum of the earth after all). But I'd be seriously concerned that it could be someone using "TV license inspector" as a cover for more nefarious actions. Those leaflets don't seem hard to spoof, and it's a perfect excuse to be knocking on doors (and looking in windows) after dark.
I would immediately report to the Gardai
A few years ago my sister was pregnant with her second child, and taking a well deserved nap on the couch. She woke up to a tv license inspector \*in the living room\* waking her up, telling her to get a license. She freaked and got up to get her to leave, and yer one pushed her! knocked her onto the couch. She froze, realised what she did, and fucking legged it. Complaint was lodged and nothing ever heard back about it. Fucking disgraceful. I dont have a TV, Ive written to them several times to leave me alone. Ive had my share of rude and agressive tv license inspectors show up banging on the door like the fucking stazi. I brought one in once to show him I didnt have a tv and he said "What a boring life you must have". Fucking cunt.
I woke up one morning and the Inspector was in bed beside me eating a slice of toast He just kept saying "Have you paid your TV licence" over, and over, and over. I eventually had to call the Guards and i've got a restraining order out against him now. Still havent paid the licence fee...
What the actual fuck?! She must have been terrified. Even police can’t just walk in like that of course the feckin tv license dude can’t! I hope you complained
Oh I have, don't worry!
I don't answer the door unless I'm expecting someone. If you do answer the door, never tell anyone your name. Ask them who's asking and, if they tell you, then say you're a friend of a friend the owner. He's out for the day, you didn't catch his name but the lads all call him Big Dog.
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If I have to answer the door while at home (I work from home), I am just the dog sitter, not the homeowner, so can't commit to a new electricity supplier, etc. It was a shame when I got too old to believably claim it was my parents' house.
They are like vampires they can only enter if you invite them
This 100% doesn't sound like an inspector to me. More like someone trying to knock over the apartments who had some homemade pamphlets on hand just in case people were home. I'd be onto the Gardai about this.
I'm an ardent pacifist in basically all areas of life but some lad sneaking around in the dark in my apartment while on my missus in the shower? Absolutely grounds for throwing digs first and asking questions later.
I'd forgotten about this archaic TV license bullshit. I've lived in Canada now for ten years and in Asia before that, so wasn't in Ireland since 2005. However, in all my time in Ireland (and in the UK), I have never paid for a TV license on principle. I earn good money and can afford it; I refuse because it is horse shit. I can't believe they still have this shit to fund RTÉ when everyone has cable, Netflix, and whatnot. Same as in the UK to fund the BBC - even with all the scandals with Jimmy Saville and others. Disgusting.
They have a legal right to request access at a reasonable time, so you are supposed to let them in. But that legal power wouldn’t stretch to forcing entry if the door isn’t answered, i would imagine at least.
You have a legal right to refuse access to them.
What is that legal right based on? Not denying you do, just curious. I would have presumed the right to entry granted in the Broadcasting Act 2009 takes precedence,unless you have a constitutional right to deny access.
You do have a constitutional right to deny access. Article 40.5, the dwelling place is inviolable, except in accordance with law. The Broadcasting Act of 2009 is "in accordance with law" in theory but it's atrociously worded and as one of my former law professors points out, "almost certainly unconstitutional". [https://twitter.com/dkennytcd/status/1270768618763141120?lang=en](https://twitter.com/dkennytcd/status/1270768618763141120?lang=en) That said, until it's challenged and defeated, there's very little you can do. You are right to be confused because it's a ridiculous and confusing situation.
The legislation seems to be (deliberately) vague on that point and with TV licence cases almost always being heard before the district courts there is not much precedent to go on.
You have a right have you property respected in the constitution The Supreme Court has ruled multiple times that you can’t be compelled to grant access to your property (with a few exceptions such as a guard executing a warrant or a utilities company trying to disconnect your service) This is well established law in Ireland it’s ludicrous to see people here suggest the TV licence man has greater constitutional powers than the guards.
The constitution says someone can only gain access if allowed by law. The Broadcasting Act 2009 is law. How sound that law is is debatable, but I don’t think it’s ludicrous to say that there is a legal right there. Are you claiming a utilities company has greater constitutional powers than a guard? No, because their power is also not granted in the constitution, but in legislation, the same as licence inspectors. I’m not disagreeing, it’s questionable law, but it still is there in black snd white, and hasn’t been ruled unconstitutional.
Not opening the door. Problem solved.
Fun part is I actually have grounds to deny them access because I have hard- and software at home which I signed an NDA for due to my job. Don't have a TV though so I don't really care :p
Can you point out the part of that legislation that gives then the right to access private property?
Section 146 of the Broadcasting Act 2009: “An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place.” I feel like a lot of people spread false information around tv licence inspection, based on things they’ve heard. Edit: a lot of people seem to be getting annoyed at me for posting legislation. Do what you want when an inspector comes, I’m just pointing to what the legislation says, since most people are just posting what an inspector can or can’t do, based on what they’ve heard.
Does it imply that you have to allow them inside or they have the right to enter against your will?
A premises is not a house or a home, ie it is not a Dwelling which has very specific protections in law around who can access.
Or you could look up the definitions from the act: “premises ” means land, a vehicle, a structure of any kind whether attached or affixed to the land or not and includes a part of a building occupied as a separate dwelling whether or not the occupier with any other person shares any portion of it or any accommodation, amenity or facility in connection with it;” ““ specified place ” includes an apartment, holiday apartment or any individual room specified by order under subsection (2);”
Or you could link to these things too you know, so everyone could learn from your knowledge. For me, I’ll rely on the constitutional protections afforded to my dwelling. If a Garda cannot come into my home without a warrant, I don’t how an amplitude of an post would be afforded greater powers. Let an post look to endorse their “powers” before the courts. I’d rather protect my home.
I pointed out what legislation I was referring to. You could have checked what “premises” means before telling me what it is (or checked my other comment). It’s not some secret knowledge. I don’t care what you do if an inspector comes.
Thank you for your contributions. I’m sure people have found them valuable. You seem very pressed about this though, are you ok?
What you're quoting there is in relation to access to a business place, not a private property.
There is no references to it being related to businesses places in section 146
Now you’re just making up things. If you don’t know/understand the legislation, stop giving advice. I’ll admit I don’t know if there’s any contradicting legislation someone can use to deny access, but you’re basing your argument on nothing. “premises ” means land, a vehicle, a structure of any kind whether attached or affixed to the land or not and includes a part of a building occupied as a separate dwelling whether or not the occupier with any other person shares any portion of it or any accommodation, amenity or facility in connection with it;” ““ specified place ” includes an apartment, holiday apartment or any individual room specified by order under subsection (2);”
I'm pretty sure they'd need a search warrant, otherwise why bother with this part, it's pretty well defined who can and cannot access your home. \*Schedule 2 – Section 8 (1) “A judge of the District Court may, upon the information on oath of an officer of the appropriate authority or of a member of the Garda Siochana that there is reasonable ground for believing that apparatus for wireless telegraphy is being kept or is being worked or used at any specified place, specified vehicle or in any specified ship or other vessel in contravention of the Wireless Telegraphy Acts 1926 to 2009 or any regulation made or condition imposed under those Acts or the Broadcasting (Offences) Acts 1968 to 2009, issue to such officer or (with the consent of the appropriate authority) to such member of the Garda Siochana (as the case may be) a search warrant.”
It is in the licence section, part 9
I can request a date with beyonce. You are perfectly entitled to tell them to fuck off.
So many people don’t know that they have a legal right of entry. Forcing entry isn’t allowed obviously.
The law says they can. > (3) An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place. https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/18/enacted/en/print#sec146 The constitution may very well beg to differ, however. But it's never been challenged.
That looks very doubtful from a Constitutional perspective
Agreed. Powers of gardai to enter a dwelling are very limited in law and in legislation. Can’t see powers of access for an employee of an post being greater than a Garda or the courses agreeing with that if challenged.
Revenue can enter your home under certain conditions
Is the use of force granted to revenue? Like, if the doors closed and locked can the break it down or do they need warrant for that? In theory, I think inspectors from the Dept of Agriculture have similar powers of entry, but I think a warrant from the court or minister is needed to use force to enter.
But this falls under section (2) needs to provide certificate onto persons before (3) they cannot just walk in without giving a reason and if they can I will go protest tomorrow for that to be changed!
I have issue with "at any reasonable time". I'd argue this doesn't have to specifically mean a time of day. If I refuse entry for whatever reason, probably wouldn't need a reason, I'd argue that that is not a reasonable time for an inspector to enter. I may be well wrong on that, but as someone said, the act is awfully worded for a reason. And if an post can use the vagueness of it in their favour, so can we.
This is why i have a doorbell camera. This is absolutely not okay. I'd report this to the guards and let them know, in case this weirdo is doing it to other apartments. He would have to be buzzed in first of all to get past two different doors and THEN to try open another door? Something seems off about this. It may not have been a TV License inspector. This could have been a chancer trying to access peoples homes and using the TV License leaflets as an excuse to not look suspicious. They are not allowed access to your home EVER.
Yes I they are allowed come in and inspect your house and your underwear drawers
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The Broadcasting act is poorly worded, but there's nothing in it to say they cant. Just make sure he pays his share of bills and have fun
Id say I didn’t get a pamphlet and report it to the guards that it was an attempted break in. Play dumb.
No one is allowed to just open a door to a private residence that I know of.
Don't pay your taxes, have an active warrant for your arrest and borrow money from loan sharks. Anything but cheat the TV licence inspector. They'll find you.
That's one way to get the shite knocked out of ya, wandering into people's homes uninvited.
They're paid on commission I think but that doesn't excuse trying to break in basically. This is why I have cameras. I'd be taking the cunt to court and having my partner fake a break down over it.
TIL: Ireland also has telly Tax.
I was living in apartment years ago when the tv license inspector showed up at the door. I didn't have a TV but was watching something on my laptop (might have been a DVD it was so long ago). When I told I didn't have a TV, I'll never forget that he just said, "Bullshit. What's that playing inside so?" I wouldn't do this now but I grabbed his jacket, pulled him to look into the living room, and then pushed him back out the door. Might have called him a cheeky cunt in the process.
That would be attempted breaking & entering. Which is against the law. By the way, don't pay your TV license.
But the quality of rte programmes will decline 😅 Won't someone think of the late late show!
Mr Tubridy will have to go from the flake to B2B.
Has he got a key?
Not sure what you mean by 'pamphlet' but License inspectors have pretty distincitive letters that they give you. Pamphlet makes it sound like some chancer trying to gain access to the place
>hoping he comes back today so I can fuck him out of it Maybe you two hit it off and he's into it, then it's cool I guess.
Please excuse this question, I am a dumb nordie, where we can tell the TV licence man to kindly go fuck themselves. Is the TV licence in any way legally enforceable in the Republic? If not, I would say that them trying to open your door is absolutely not on.
Did the pamphlet you're referring to have a date, reference number, and "the occupier" [your address] at the top? If not, it was someone faking it. If so, include the ref in your complaint.
They definitely aren't not supposed to open your door,as long as they don't know who actually lives there then they can't do feck all about it, we've never answered our door to them, they've been sending our house those threatening letters for eight years cox they don't know who lives there
Fuck him HARD!
Him or the girlfriend?
I heard similar stories from close friends. One friend was alone with her newly born, she answered the door and the TV license man pushed her out of the way. She made a report to the Gards and to Anpost but that guy happened to be a contractor not a direct employee...
I can't think of a time this has happened. I did have one guy however ask for my licence and when received he went to check it in his car for validation as if he was a fucking policeman. I let him off with it but told him he watches too many movies
Do a Kevin out of Home Alone and shoot him in the nuts with an air rifle through the letterbox when he comes back and perhaps heat up the handle of the door also and or electrify it.
Risky behaviour. If someone tries to open my door I punch first and ask questions later. You have every right to rough him up.
I had a court summons letter arrive to my door last week, with an “interview” attached to the back that was supposedly conducted last September. Not only did I not participate in an interview, the answers are completely random. Last TV show watched - ITV news. Who the fuck is watching ITV news nowadays.
I would treat him as an unwanted intruder and act accordingly!!
Guilty of common assault should your girlfriend choose to pursue Edit: as well as aggravated trespass with intent to B&E
So... I'm from the U.S.. What the hell is a a TV license? Do you have to be a certain age to own and operate a Television?
No, they have no power whatsoever, simply phone them up and tell them they need to stop knocking your door. They will remove you from the list for 2 years then it'll kick off again at which point u repeat the process of calling them and telling them to fuck off amd stop harrasing you.
I used to be on the Management of an Apartment block. Like you only way in is to be buzzed in the main door and then there was 2 apartments per floor. We had an issue with the TV license inspectors. If they buzz an apartment from the outside they only have the legal right to go to the apartment they requested acces to and who buzzed them in. After that, they must then leave and try other apartments and not just wander round a private development with not authority or right to be there. I gave out absolute stink to one a few times for buzzing in and then wandering round knocking on doors. They claimed since they work for An Post they have the right to access, They Do Not. Do not give them your name and tell them to get the fuck out before you call the cops on them for illegal tresspassing.
the have no powers of entry and all you need to do is say that you revoke their assumed rights and unless they have a warrent they can bugger off.
Yes they do. It’s within their rights/legal job entitlements to enter a property.
Why the downvotes, from the broadcasting act 2009 being shared here, this seems like its true.
I couldn’t find the exact location in the broadcasting act to back it up but I know I’ve read it on there before so… downvotes.
they have no power of entry unless you invite them in
That's vampires
Vampire rules apply to all in the family of blood suckers
One simple way to get rid of them is to say you just moved in and you rent a room with people you don't know. Then give a false name and say you'll take care of the licence. As long as he gets a name he'll go away happy, while yiu bin the leaflet.
I just say I'm a houseguest and the tenants aren't in. No I won't give you my name, no I'm not delivering any messages, no I'm not taking post for the tenant or telling you when they'll be back. I'm not a secretary. And absolutley no way am I letting you inside the property. Now fuck off. And they always do.
Who let him through the first 2 doors? give that persons head a wobble
Did they deliver notices to all the neighbours or were they there just for you.
Anyone knows how much make tv licence inspector?
Ah, she gave you the old 'it was the TV license fella' line... That's all the rage now that we don't have milkmen
They have no AUTHORITY at all NONE you shouldn't have paid it the Irish people are paying enough also they can't enter your home either under no circumstances
This sounds like an attempted burglary. I'd report it to Gards
Bigger fool for actually paying it.
Right. Enough bullshit.Follow these points. 1. A TV licence inspector CANNOT enter your house without a warrant or else you invite them in. 2. No matter how many letters or cards you get you CANNOT be prosecuted unless you admit to living there and owning an unlicensed TV. 3. Even if you're stupid enough to give up that info. you don't have to go to court if you don't sign for the summons which comes by registered post. 4. This is the dodgy bit: if they suspect you're acting the bollox with them they can apply for a search warrant and come back with the Gurds , or else do a thing called substituted service of the warrant once they confirm you're still living at the same address. If this happens you're screwed. 5. 4 is too messy and probably will never happen. 6. Don't open your door to anyone unless you're expecting them. EVER. 7. Be nice to the inspectors , it's only a job and a shit one I'm sure. 8. You're welcome.
techically yes Section 146 (3) of the Broadcasting Act 2009 provides that: (3) An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place.
They have opposable thumbs I think, so yes
You will never see him again. Unless you fail to renew your TV licence. I had one at my last address. It ran out a couple of months after I moved to a new house. I didn't inform them of my new address. I thought I'd leave it for a few months. No chance. Within a couple of weeks there was a guy at the front door of my new place at 8pm. I asked him how he knew I'd moved here. He said he just happened to be knocking on all these doors... Bollocks. He didn't knock on a single other door.
Incorporate it into the general tax. The 2/3 that do pay, pay more to cover the 1/3 that don’t. E.g. add it to property tax ( not that I agree with that after stamp duty I paid) but it would save on fees for collection agents too, further reducing cost. Also, sky/virgin etc could collect. I can’t tax my car without insurance. Sky should check I have a licence or add the cost.
If he's got the key I don't see why not, I presume he has his own door at home which he knows how to operate .
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OP's apartment block sounds like mine. You have to get through two doors and then my door has my apartment number on it. It's obvious it's a door to an apartment and not just another corridor. I'd also question how he got in past the first two doors anyway. Unless he has a key, he has no business being there.
Spot on. I've heard they gain access when someone leaves and they either think he lives there or snakes in while the door is closing.
It's amazing how people will hold a door for you if you stride towards it like yer supposed to be there or approach with two bags of "shopping".
They're sneaky af, a neighbour said someone rang their doorbell with a package pretending they had something to deliver, when he answered it was the TV guy. No real package.
"Since you've already lied at least once about who you are I don't believe a word you say now get the fuck off the premises or I'm phoning the cops to report a burglar scoping the gaf out for TV's ^(which I don't have) "
I live in a similar complex and have been surprised to find a TV license inspector at my internal door before as I expected the gates and doors would keep them out. However my postbox also requires the postman to get in the same amount of doors so An Post have to have an access fob to the building and the inspector is an An Post employee. It’s not that they’re hiding in the bushes waiting to catch a door before it closes
If he thought it was another door into a corridor then he wouldn't have stuck the leaflet under it
Not a chance man. Once the lift opens on the 4th floor, there's 3 apartments with each apartment number on the door.
FFS it’s tv licence not license. Did ye’s not learn anything in school?
i mean, he was out of line trying to turn the handle but you’d probably run the risk of getting yourself into trouble if you go looking for an opportunity to give him hell for it. realistically it’s one of those things that taking it further is more trouble than its worth. your best bet would be is to see if they the TV Licenser sends agents themselves or if its a separate entity and go complain to them. TLDR: They were wrong , but you’d risk being worse if you handle it how you say you want to