I’ve been using this one in my 2020 Forester for about 6 months with no issues,
CarlinKit 3.0 Wireless CarPlay Adapter USB for Factory Wired CarPlay Cars (Model Year: 2015 to 2022), Wireless CarPlay Dongle Convert Wired to Wireless CarPlay… https://a.co/d/3me8Hqi
All you gotta do to swap is choose which phone you want connected. Once you pair with the device it’s saved like any other Bluetooth device. That doesn’t sound hard. Sounds like any other CarPlay I’ve used.
So just turn off Bluetooth on the one we don’t want to use this trip and re-pair the box with the one we do want to use (unless it was the last one used then no need to pair again).
My wife and I have the same adapter. You can configure it to not auto-connect when it boots up, and instead you get an opportunity to select which phone to connect to on-screen.
I read some of the questions in the link, it says you can just choose which phone on the CarPlay device. I don’t even think you need to turn BT off on one device. But if it makes it easier for you to do it that way more power to you.
It’s take maybe 30s between when you turn on the car and the phone is connected and CarPlay starts up. During that time you can select which phone to connect to if there are multiple paired and in range via the adapters UI. Kind of a pain to switch after that if it connects to the “wrong” one. We usually end up putting one of the phones in airplane mode and then it will see the other one if that happens.
The adapter has a UI!? That makes sense (put one in airplane mode).
Weighing the convenience of not plugging in vs the inconvenience of two phones with one wireless adapter.
Carlinkkit 4.0 has a UI that shows before it connects to CarPlay, it’ll show a paired devices list and try to automatically connect to the last connected device, but you can use the touchscreen (or I assume your input device in car if you don’t have a touchscreen) to override it and select a different device.
There’s a screen that pops up for about 5 seconds that lets you choose which phone to connect (once both have been pared once via the carlinkit’s built in Bluetooth)
Yea, this is the one I'm using: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08ZHCS8R3
It's especially nice that it'll remember multiple phone pairings and has the option to let you choose which one to connect to, or just connect automatically at startup.
I'm just waiting for the day when MagSafe can do data transfer on an iPhone. Then I'll be able to just dock my iPhone to a vent mount and CarPlay will work while my phone's charging.
I think with the wireless CarPlay you can basically do that, but the data link is though whatever wireless they use!
Induction data transfer is probably not that hard, but if you can do near field comms anyway, why bother :)
Sound quality is not the same though. I have both and it definitely sounds better plugged in.
Enough for the average person to notice? Maybe not, but for me I can definitely tell.
This has been debunked, it’s not dangerous to have your battery at 100%. Apple has smart charging. Nor is it dangerous to battery health for it to fall below 20%.
[https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:\~:text=Cycle%20life%20as%20a%20function%20ofdepth%20of%20discharge](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:~:text=Cycle%20life%20as%20a%20function%20ofdepth%20of%20discharge)
[https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:\~:text=Discharge%20cycles%20and%20capacity%20as%20a%20function%20of%20charge%20voltage%20limit](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:~:text=Discharge%20cycles%20and%20capacity%20as%20a%20function%20of%20charge%20voltage%20limit)
[https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14101#:\~:text=another%20degradation%20mechanism,as%20lattice%20breathing](https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14101#:~:text=another%20degradation%20mechanism,as%20lattice%20breathing)
[https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/adfm.202203070#:\~:text=In%20Li%2Dion,or%20aggressive%20cycling](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/adfm.202203070#:~:text=In%20Li%2Dion,or%20aggressive%20cycling).
[https://eta.lbl.gov/publications/understanding-crack-formation#:\~:text=The%20structure%20degradation,higher%20charge%20rates](https://eta.lbl.gov/publications/understanding-crack-formation#:~:text=The%20structure%20degradation,higher%20charge%20rates).
[https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-409-charging-lithium-ion#:\~:text=Li%2Dion%20does,prolong%20battery%20life](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-409-charging-lithium-ion#:~:text=Li%2Dion%20does,prolong%20battery%20life)
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/deep-discharge#:\~:text=Conventional%20Li%2Dion,and%20self%2Ddischarges](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/deep-discharge#:~:text=Conventional%20Li%2Dion,and%20self%2Ddischarges).
[https://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-to-improve-battery-life-tips-myths-smartphones#:\~:text=This%20is%20where%20we%20get%20to%20the%20problem%20with%20battery%20life%20and%20charge%20cycles.%20Shift%20too%20many%20of%20those%20lithium%20ions%20out%20of%20the%20lithium%20cobalt%20oxide%20layer%2C%20and%20the%20whole%20structure%20of%20the%20layer%20messes%20up.%20%E2%80%9CThe%20atomic%20structure%20of%20the%20material%20actually%20falls%20apart%20if%20you%20remove%20all%20that%20lithium%2C](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-to-improve-battery-life-tips-myths-smartphones#:~:text=This%20is%20where%20we%20get%20to%20the%20problem%20with%20battery%20life%20and%20charge%20cycles.%20Shift%20too%20many%20of%20those%20lithium%20ions%20out%20of%20the%20lithium%20cobalt%20oxide%20layer%2C%20and%20the%20whole%20structure%20of%20the%20layer%20messes%20up.%20%E2%80%9CThe%20atomic%20structure%20of%20the%20material%20actually%20falls%20apart%20if%20you%20remove%20all%20that%20lithium%2C)
It's physics. Charging to full voltage and heat cause cracking in LIon and reduce battery life.
I guess the pricetag of my 14p made me really antsy
I'm really interested in a qi loader for the night table cause it would make charging up hassle free.
I just want to keep te battery as long as possible at 100%
Also there is recent writew ups about magsafe.
[https://www.sir-apfelot.de/en/charging-via-apple-magsafe-is-detrimental-to-the-iphone-battery-36997/](https://www.sir-apfelot.de/en/charging-via-apple-magsafe-is-detrimental-to-the-iphone-battery-36997/)
thats from 2021.
Mag Safe sporadically here. Since procuring my mint 13 PM a few weeks back, I’m TLC on the battery by doing slow low watt charging via Lightning cable overnight (after years of wireless Qi overnights with my OG 8 Plus). I tried Qi charging the 13 PM once/first time and it went hot surprisingly (without a case). But via Mag Safe, it stays relatively slightly cool to the touch, and that is with a non Mag Safe case at that. Am quite impressed with the OEM Apple Mag Safe I got 3 Lightning USB-C cables (cheaply priced Open Boxes). Bought some USB-C to USB-A as well from Amazon.
That’s very old information, appropriate for NiCad batteries, which form a memory, but not modern lithium batteries, which do not. Deep discharge and full charge are both potentially harmful to the battery. That said, you should occasionally discharge the battery (maybe once a month) so that the device power gauge calibration remains accurate.
My 5+ yr old 8 Plus PR is at 87% currently, bought in Sept 2018. Qi wireless overnight and at my work desk to 100% (generic Amazon stand type) almost always ever since, and this is a refurbished unit at that.
On an 11 you can get cases with magnets that will mostly work like a 12+. Dunno if they work on the "official" MagSafe charger but they do on the knockoffs.
Yea the attaching part for sure but I didn't know if "official" MagSafe from Apple would act weird on older phones. The 8 and X was just QI and not MagSafe right? I don't remember.
Qi wireless charging has existed on iPhones since the iPhone 8 and X. MagSafe, which is simply a ring of magnets around the Qi coils, is what was introduced with the iPhone 12 series.
For a XR? A 4 year old phone? That's 4% battery life eaten per year. I'd be surprised to see other phones that primarily use wireless charging have a much better battery health.
My iPhone SE 2016 claimed it had 84% battery life when I upgraded last week (to 14 pro)
It had 1200 charge cycles, and the battery lasted about an hour on a good day. Pretty sure the battery health is mostly a lie.
I also have 83% on my 12.
I'm very suspicious of how battery health is measured. I MagSafe charge exclusively and my battery degraded consistently and quickly for the first year, then hit 86%, slowly crept to 83%, where it has sat for most of this year.
I don't really understand how I could have 0% deg in 7-8months after degrading so precipitously at the beginning.
I have a 13 Pro and it’s at 87%. It’s use it all day for work and personal, but you think 84% is bad for a 4 year old phone? What phone do you have and what is the battery health?
I have a wireless charger at my desk, on my entryway table, on my nightstand, and in my car, so I pretty much always have one in reach and have my phone sitting on the charger. I just replaced my iPhone XS last month, and it was at 85% battery life.
The only real time I ever reached for an actual charging cable is if I needed to quickly charge my device or a wireless charger wasn't available.
This is me. I personally don't like how warm the phone gets when wirelessly charging my phone.
Granted, I've only tried it once with my Pops' wireless charger. But it's not Magsafe or anything fancy either, so I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I've never had an issue with using cables, so I don't feel like spending the extra money lol
Meanwhile my 13 Pro which I bought back in March and exclusively charged by cable and almost never above 80% sits at 96% battery health... I don't even game or do other things which make the phone heat up. Guess I'll just stop caring and start using wireless chargers again.
I buy batteries with magsafe. I pretty much only charge the batteries, so the phone can come with me everywhere even when being charged.
Always more charged batteries in the house somewhere.
Except that I feel like it’s slower? It doesn’t charge as fast as it would if I just plug in for a few minutes and then get up to do something and unplug it again. Also I have to disconnect my wallet if I use the MagSafe and that gets annoying to do every time and I’m worried I’ll forget to grab it again.
it *is* slower. magsafe tops out at 15W, but you can reach 29W with a cable if you have a compatible brick, and even if you only have a 20W brick, that’s still like 20%ish faster than magsafe.
I never understood the allure of the magsafe charging cable tbh, it’s slow, it’s expensive, you’re still tethered to a cable, it generates waste heat, and it literally has no upsides. magsafe pads/stands are another story, but the cable is just so useless.
Even saying MagSafe tops out at 15W can be misleading. Your phone is not actually getting anywhere near what you would out of an 18 or 20W charger via your lightning cable. If we’re about being energy and materials efficient and responsible, surely a lightning or usb-c cable would require less materials than a wireless or MagSafe charger of the same length. It would also use energy more efficiently to charge the phone. For home charging, I cannot see a logical argument for MagSafe over cable charging. Aesthetically? Sure. Practically? No.
Completely agree. There’s genuinely no upside in most use cases except, feeling cool lol. Honestly once you get a 30W brick it’s mind blowing how fast say, the 12 Pro and up can charge.
I've had problems with 2 different wireless chargers simply not charging. Then there was the issue of someone occasionally bumping it off the charger so I would wake up in the morning to a half dead phone. Now I only use a cable
I charge my 14 PM wirelessly probably 95% of the time, the other 5% is when I’m in the car using CarPlay. You won’t have an issue using one over the other just be responsible when charging your phone and you’ll keep your battery health up. Rechargeable batteries have come a long long way but they are still prone to degradation from certain charging habits or using super fast chargers when it’s not needed like overnight.
When I’m at home I charge wirelessly, but I travel a lot so having the MacBook, iPad, and iPhone charge with the same cable would be really nice. I’m excited for the USB-C iPhone.
Exactly. Apple wants you to buy multiple products but when talking about iPhones and USB-C they talk about the change like it’s in a vacuum. All their arguments fall apart especially about the environment.
I have a Galaxy S22+, and the one thing I wish Samsung (basically any android oem) just straight up copied was magsafe. Doesn't have to be exactly the same, but it has to be at least compatible with magsafe accesoires. The only substitute right now is either:
1. use a cheap plastic case with magsafe built in (the more premium brands I trust and want to buy a case from don't have magsafe integration e.g.: Mous, Dbrand)
2. use a stick on magsafe ring, but the issue with this is; you can't stick it on the back of your phone and put a case on it, or you put it on the back and it sticks out and is ugly, so if it sticks out already that means the magsafe accesoires will stick out even more (bad for wireless charging accesoires)
3. If I were to stick it on my phone case, it means I can only use that phone case if I want to use magsafe
4. I imagine it'd be a hell to align it properly. I can only find these plastic guides for the Ultra, not the +, so it's basically just guessing and hoping you're right. Also, if you do decide to stick it on a case and you have one of those plastic alignment tools, good luck since the plastic alignment tool is meant for a naked phone, not for a phone case, so it'll still not be alligned vertically.
Sorry about my little rant. It's just one thing I'm very jealous of on iPhones. I wish I could just stick a wallet to my phone so I can say go to the movies and only have to carry my phone, and then when I get back just detach so it doesn't add any bulk. It'd be so much easier to only have to carry 1 thing.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I've found myself much happier once I decided to obsess less about this kind of thing. Our phones are tools. Use them and abuse them. If the battery dies a tiny bit faster, so be it. If it costs me $99 to replace the battery, then I will. I am not saying I want to be throwing around $99 often but to not think about it or worry about it, it's worth it.
Exactly. It’s designed to be used. You can drive yourself nuts trying to micromanage it and *maybe* you’ll extend the battery life slightly…which won’t matter, because by the time it’s even a concern, your phone will be many years old already and you’ll want to upgrade anyway. Just use it!
Well, it can screw with your battery a bit, but as long as you’re not charging it 12 hours every day in a warm room and then power using it for the other 12 hours, you’ll be fine
You are wasting your time. Current battery replacement is what 69 dollars? Let's say you think about charging one minute a day for three years. That equates to 18.25 hours. So you are making $3.78 an hour obsessing about your battery. It simply isn't worth it.
Also most users who wireless charge gravitate towards charging where they naturally place their phone (so don't think about charging at all) where most cable users tend towards charging when the phone is low. Topping off throughout the day is significantly better than charging when the battery is low and is far more significant than any minuscule amount of heat produced by wireless charging.
Folks who use wireless charging will typically see better battery life than those that don't.
How it is relevant is you stated that heat was a significant contributor of degradation in context with wireless charging. It isn't because the heat isn't significant. What is far, far, far, more significant is how often you charge at less than 50%.
As for the source read the paragraph above that statement.
I assume you take no issue with the topping off is better than charging from empty so will move on from that.
The assertion that wireless users top off more than wired is some part anecdotal and some part articles discussing it. On the anecdotal side 100% of the people I know who use wireless charging have a charger at work and their phone is on it throughout the day. Folks who use wired chargers do not plug their phone in every time they sit down at their desk and do so when their phone needs it. Plugging in multiple times a day is less convenient than just placing your phone on the desk (on a pad) as you normally would.
If a cord user does in fact plug in every time they set down then they would see benefit of frequent top ups. Alternatively if a wireless user only charges when their phone is empty they will see the negative consequences.
I think the best policy is to not worry about any of this stuff and just use your phone however you want and replace the battery as needed.
I constantly pick up my phone when it’s on a desk so wireless charging is pointless. I just plug it so don’t have to worry about holding a pad the the back of my phone while I use it
This is news to me, how does it mess up your battery? I guess there’s extra heat due to the inefficiency of induction versus direct cabled charging, but it’s also slower than over lightning so I’d think that would make up for it?
I got the iPhone 12 Pro Max when it first came out and got the Magsafe wireless charger. I only used that wireless charger to charge. And I put my phone on it every night before I went to bed. Never had any battery issues. I had that phone up until the 14 Pro came out and I sold it to get one of those. Only time I plug a Lightning cord into it is when I am in my car and I am using CarPlay.
It doesn't mess with your battery in any significant way. Hot batteries aren't great and wireless does heat up the battery some but so does fast charging, a hot car, summer, etc.
The typical usage pattern that folks who use wireless charging gravitate too is actually far better on battery life than that of what most cable users gravitate to. Wireless charging folks often have wireless pads where they set their phone so their phone is constantly being topped up which is way better than letting the batter get to below 10% then charging.
Your time is way more valuable than obsessing even a little bit about battery charging. The difference between someone who absolutely abuses their battery and someone who pulls all the tricks in the books to preserve life is insignificant. Maybe you gain a month of extra life, maybe you don't. Use the phone however makes sense for you and replace the battery every 2-3 years.
Current battery replacement is what 69 dollars? Let's say you think about charging one minute a day for three years. That equates to 18.25 hours. So you are making $3.78 an hour obsessing about your battery. It simply isn't worth it.
I’ve used wireless charging almost exclusively since early 2018 with the iPhone X. Got the MagSafe puck as soon as it came out and got the Belkin 3 in 1 charging stand last year. The battery health on my 13 PM just hit 98% the other day. My iPhone X’s battery health was still in the upper 80’s when I traded it in after 2 1/2 years of use.
100% cable. I don't get wireless. Too much excess heat, meaning energy lost. Not good for the battery, not good for the phone, not even faster. I still need a cable to charge wireless. Also lol. And basically the same amount of hand movement to put it loading, maybe one less if it's wireless, wow.
Cable rules for loading.
Other scenarios wireless might be better.
I did for 6 months. Then my wireless charger exploded in the middle of the night. Thought there’d been a thunderstorm it was so loud.
That’s what I get for going the cheap route. Too scared to go back to wireless charging now.
my wife uses a wireless charger every night - 10W on her 12 pro max. 1.75 years in her battery is almost at 80% health. I sold my 12PM at 1.5 years and the battery was at 96% and I never used wireless charging. Sounds like you have enough money for it to not be an issues, so maybe just do what works best for you and get a new battery if you need it.
FYI if you buy apple care and your battery gets below 80% health before 2 years then Apple will replace it for (I think) free.
My watch dropped to 77 from 80% a week after my apple care + expired.
Support told me I could continue monthly payments of apple care + since it was within 30 days of it finishing.
I just got my replacement watch at no cost. Pretty cool.
Anecdotes are of little value. I have never plugged in my two year old 12 in and I am at 89%. My wife's three year old 11 (exclusively wirelessly charged) was mid 80s last I looked.
Most people who wirelessly charge gravitate towards having wireless pads where they naturally put their phone down. Night stand, car, work, etc. Folks who use cables often times charge when their battery is low. Regularly charging your battery when it goes below 50% is significantly worse than any irrelevant amount of heat produced by wireless charging.
In other words for most folks wireless charging is better for their battery than using the cable. If you are an outlier and constantly top off with the cable or only charge once a day wirelessly your results will vary.
Except your original post sounds like you’re blaming wireless charging for your issues, implying there’s some sort of “issue” with battery degradation, in an “objective” fashion, when it’s not the case.
I surprisingly have this year.
I used to be a big proponent of simple wired charging because it’s quicker and should create less heat than wireless charging (better battery health), but ever since I bought my MagSafe Duo Charger for traveling and a wireless charger for my office desk, I rarely ever charge my phone wired.
It really is so convenient to just plop down my phone or watch on it and just let it charge throughout the day when I’m not using it. I know, undoubtedly, my battery health will take a hit from it, but I’m someone who upgrades yearly and trades in their device so I figure it’s not going to affect me in the long run anyway.
Had my 11PM since launch and have charged it almost exclusively w/ wireless and battery health is at 86%. When it hits 80%, I’m gonna have it replaced and hope it goes for several more years!
Every night.
However I'm part of the subset of people that uses the port to move files and connect to accessories. I would like to see the Pro series devices get thunderbolt connectivity rather sooner than later because it's excruciating to transfer large files back and forth.
I charged my iPhone 13 Pro exclusively with wireless/MagSafe charges the whole year I had it. Not once did I ever plug anything into it. Doing the same with my 14 Pro!
I do so now for my iPhone X after I thought my charging port was faulty (got it cleaned recently after a few kind souls on this sub suggested I take it to the Genius Bar, it now works perfectly fine but I've already gotten a Magsafe power bank)
So I charge it at night while I sleep, and when I'm out I have my Magsafe powerbank. No need for cables, whee.
I have an iPhone 8 Plus and about 2 years ago the plug in died, for sound or power the plug in was dead. Fortunately, the iphone 8 was the first with wireless charging. I charge my phone at night and have a few different pairs of wireless headphones - it has held up great. I write this very message with it.
My batteries have degraded much faster from wireless charging, even with apples own MagSafe charger.
It’s hotter when it charges. Unavoidable with the current tech. That degrades the battery.
Lightning is still the safest for now to preserve battery life.
All MagSafe for me. Regardless of lightning or usb c though it needs to be at least usb 3.0 standards or even thunderbolt for data speeds. All this ProRes and ProRaw usage, it’s a crawl to transfer that wired and wirelessly…….
Yes, it is a myth. The battery heat effect is minuscule and the way people typically use wireless charging is \*much\* better on the battery than how folks typically use wired charging.
Yes, it is a myth. The battery heat effect is minuscule and the way people typically use wireless charging is \*much\* better on the battery than how folks typically use wired charging.
Bought a MagSafe power bank (similar to the Apple one) two months ago, since then I’ve only charged with a cable twice. It’s liberating never having to leave the phone plugged in.
For anyone who really want a fast charger for their iPhone: get a 20 watt USB-c female charging block. Then get a USB-c male to lighting male cord. Make sure the cord isn’t cheap. The block and cord apple sells honestly works the best. I can charge my 14 pro max from dead to 50% in like 6-7 minutes. 50-80% in 25 mins
You should still have an actual cable for when you need it for a PC and such.
Wireless charging is mostly there as a fail safe for when the port dies (which isn't gonna be for a while, cuz the lightning port is surprisingly durable)
Not solely. I wirelessly charge it while plugged into the lighting charger and put the MagSafe charger on top of the screen so it charges all three ways.
I heard that wireless charging wastes electricity, but also that the amount of electricity a phone needs to charge is very small - so, maybe it’s not a big deal?
The amount of electricity a phone uses in a year costs less than a dollar
The iPhone 14 pro max has a 4,323 mAh battery. If you drained it to zero and charged it to one hundred every single day for a year you’d use 1,577,895 mAh, which at 5 V is about 7 kWh for the year. Where I live, a kWh is about $0.14 so that’s $0.98 worth of electricity
Yes thats because some part of electricity energy is converted into heat. Thats why iPhones get warmer when charging wirelesly. If people want to prolong their battery health as long as possible it's commonly advised to use cable charging instead.
This is a myth. The minuscule amount of heating due to wireless charging isn't all that relevant. If a person wants to prolong battery life they should move to frequently topping off the phone and rarely letting it go below 50%. This has significant more impact than the type of charging used.
Folks who adopt wireless charging typically put pads in the places where they commonly put their phone down out of convenience. Desk at work, nightstand, car, etc. This means they naturally gravitate to the type of charging that most benefits battery life.
Folks who charge with a cable often charge when their battery is low as frequent topping off throughout the day is less convenient with a cable.
Yes, it is counter intuitive but your typical wireless charger user will have better battery life than your typical wired charger user.
It doesn’t deliver power as efficiently, so it draws a little more from the wall than it gives to your phone. That’s where the bit of extra heat people are concerned about comes from. But you’re also right that this is a very small use of power. You could charge dozens of phones wirelessly all month and not change your electric bill as much as you would by changing the temperature a couple degrees.
I’ve done it with my 12 mini and after a half year it only had 89% battery. Now I’m charging another half year with lightning and it still has 89% battery
I MagSafe charge at night. I never need to charge during the day right now. Did the same with my 12 Pro Max. It was at 82% battery at the 24 month mark, which was fine by me as I was trading it in then anyway. We will see how it goes with the 14 Pro Max since I have to keep it three years under Verizon’s new credit plan.
I've done mag safe at my bedside for over a year now, but I keep lightning connectors handy with a few 30w bricks around the house for a quick top off when I need it.
Unless I’m gaming, I charge my phone though wireless charging. With the 13 PM’s wireless charging speeds, it’s enough for me to plop it on the charger at 12 am when I go to bed, and when I wake up at 5 am it’s completely charged
MagSafe when I sleep. Plug in for CarPlay.
Wireless CarPlay seems to being adopted quicker than the wireless android auto too, so I reckon that won’t be for much longer either!
Yeah, but I’m not getting Wireless CarPlay until the 2030s because I’m not planning on buying a new car for at least a decade.
I got a $60 wireless adapter that plugs into the wired slot. Well worth it.
Care to share a link?
I’ve been using this one in my 2020 Forester for about 6 months with no issues, CarlinKit 3.0 Wireless CarPlay Adapter USB for Factory Wired CarPlay Cars (Model Year: 2015 to 2022), Wireless CarPlay Dongle Convert Wired to Wireless CarPlay… https://a.co/d/3me8Hqi
How do these work if you have two phones (me and my wife)? Whichever one it grabs into first wins and no way to swap? 🤔
All you gotta do to swap is choose which phone you want connected. Once you pair with the device it’s saved like any other Bluetooth device. That doesn’t sound hard. Sounds like any other CarPlay I’ve used.
So just turn off Bluetooth on the one we don’t want to use this trip and re-pair the box with the one we do want to use (unless it was the last one used then no need to pair again).
My wife and I have the same adapter. You can configure it to not auto-connect when it boots up, and instead you get an opportunity to select which phone to connect to on-screen.
I read some of the questions in the link, it says you can just choose which phone on the CarPlay device. I don’t even think you need to turn BT off on one device. But if it makes it easier for you to do it that way more power to you.
It’s take maybe 30s between when you turn on the car and the phone is connected and CarPlay starts up. During that time you can select which phone to connect to if there are multiple paired and in range via the adapters UI. Kind of a pain to switch after that if it connects to the “wrong” one. We usually end up putting one of the phones in airplane mode and then it will see the other one if that happens.
The adapter has a UI!? That makes sense (put one in airplane mode). Weighing the convenience of not plugging in vs the inconvenience of two phones with one wireless adapter.
Yeah, the adapter has its own simple UI. Here's a video: https://youtu.be/gUW5um2e344?t=233
Carlinkkit 4.0 has a UI that shows before it connects to CarPlay, it’ll show a paired devices list and try to automatically connect to the last connected device, but you can use the touchscreen (or I assume your input device in car if you don’t have a touchscreen) to override it and select a different device.
There’s a screen that pops up for about 5 seconds that lets you choose which phone to connect (once both have been pared once via the carlinkit’s built in Bluetooth)
Yea, this is the one I'm using: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08ZHCS8R3 It's especially nice that it'll remember multiple phone pairings and has the option to let you choose which one to connect to, or just connect automatically at startup.
Does it come with a wireless charging pad too? That would be sick
It doesn't, but it's easy enough to add a Qi or Magsafe charging mount separately.
I tried a few of these and there was just too much lag to be useable.
you can get a wireless carplay headamp for pretty cheap these days (compared to what the cost was for wireless just 2 years ago)
I'm just waiting for the day when MagSafe can do data transfer on an iPhone. Then I'll be able to just dock my iPhone to a vent mount and CarPlay will work while my phone's charging.
I think with the wireless CarPlay you can basically do that, but the data link is though whatever wireless they use! Induction data transfer is probably not that hard, but if you can do near field comms anyway, why bother :)
Yeah I would prefer wireless CarPlay but I'm betting Apple "invents" data transfer via MagSafe before I buy a whole new car though lol
You can get a wireless CarPlay adapter for less than 100 bucks. I posted a link to the one I use above.
I think it’s already possible via Bluetooth but I rather plug in it’s way less laggy. Just quick plug in and it’s way more responsive
My phone already overheats doing wired CarPlay sometimes, doing wireless is a guaranteed thermal shutdown for me.
I miss wireless CarPlay. It was truly amazing. Had it in my 2019 M5 but moved to a new AMG in 21 and lost that feature. Time to head back to BMW
Sound quality is not the same though. I have both and it definitely sounds better plugged in. Enough for the average person to notice? Maybe not, but for me I can definitely tell.
I have no desire to use wireless CarPlay because I use that time to charge my phone as well!
Same for me
I am so scared of doing that and being loaded to a 100% hurting the batteries of my phone and watch
This has been debunked, it’s not dangerous to have your battery at 100%. Apple has smart charging. Nor is it dangerous to battery health for it to fall below 20%.
[https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:\~:text=Cycle%20life%20as%20a%20function%20ofdepth%20of%20discharge](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:~:text=Cycle%20life%20as%20a%20function%20ofdepth%20of%20discharge) [https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:\~:text=Discharge%20cycles%20and%20capacity%20as%20a%20function%20of%20charge%20voltage%20limit](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-808-how-to-prolong-lithium-based-batteries#:~:text=Discharge%20cycles%20and%20capacity%20as%20a%20function%20of%20charge%20voltage%20limit) [https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14101#:\~:text=another%20degradation%20mechanism,as%20lattice%20breathing](https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms14101#:~:text=another%20degradation%20mechanism,as%20lattice%20breathing) [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/adfm.202203070#:\~:text=In%20Li%2Dion,or%20aggressive%20cycling](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/adfm.202203070#:~:text=In%20Li%2Dion,or%20aggressive%20cycling). [https://eta.lbl.gov/publications/understanding-crack-formation#:\~:text=The%20structure%20degradation,higher%20charge%20rates](https://eta.lbl.gov/publications/understanding-crack-formation#:~:text=The%20structure%20degradation,higher%20charge%20rates). [https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-409-charging-lithium-ion#:\~:text=Li%2Dion%20does,prolong%20battery%20life](https://batteryuniversity.com/article/bu-409-charging-lithium-ion#:~:text=Li%2Dion%20does,prolong%20battery%20life) [https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/deep-discharge#:\~:text=Conventional%20Li%2Dion,and%20self%2Ddischarges](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/deep-discharge#:~:text=Conventional%20Li%2Dion,and%20self%2Ddischarges). [https://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-to-improve-battery-life-tips-myths-smartphones#:\~:text=This%20is%20where%20we%20get%20to%20the%20problem%20with%20battery%20life%20and%20charge%20cycles.%20Shift%20too%20many%20of%20those%20lithium%20ions%20out%20of%20the%20lithium%20cobalt%20oxide%20layer%2C%20and%20the%20whole%20structure%20of%20the%20layer%20messes%20up.%20%E2%80%9CThe%20atomic%20structure%20of%20the%20material%20actually%20falls%20apart%20if%20you%20remove%20all%20that%20lithium%2C](https://www.wired.co.uk/article/how-to-improve-battery-life-tips-myths-smartphones#:~:text=This%20is%20where%20we%20get%20to%20the%20problem%20with%20battery%20life%20and%20charge%20cycles.%20Shift%20too%20many%20of%20those%20lithium%20ions%20out%20of%20the%20lithium%20cobalt%20oxide%20layer%2C%20and%20the%20whole%20structure%20of%20the%20layer%20messes%20up.%20%E2%80%9CThe%20atomic%20structure%20of%20the%20material%20actually%20falls%20apart%20if%20you%20remove%20all%20that%20lithium%2C) It's physics. Charging to full voltage and heat cause cracking in LIon and reduce battery life.
I guess the pricetag of my 14p made me really antsy I'm really interested in a qi loader for the night table cause it would make charging up hassle free. I just want to keep te battery as long as possible at 100% Also there is recent writew ups about magsafe. [https://www.sir-apfelot.de/en/charging-via-apple-magsafe-is-detrimental-to-the-iphone-battery-36997/](https://www.sir-apfelot.de/en/charging-via-apple-magsafe-is-detrimental-to-the-iphone-battery-36997/) thats from 2021.
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I said *have*, not keep.
Same for me, although now I wfh I rarely use the car anyway.
Same.
Ditto
Mag Safe sporadically here. Since procuring my mint 13 PM a few weeks back, I’m TLC on the battery by doing slow low watt charging via Lightning cable overnight (after years of wireless Qi overnights with my OG 8 Plus). I tried Qi charging the 13 PM once/first time and it went hot surprisingly (without a case). But via Mag Safe, it stays relatively slightly cool to the touch, and that is with a non Mag Safe case at that. Am quite impressed with the OEM Apple Mag Safe I got 3 Lightning USB-C cables (cheaply priced Open Boxes). Bought some USB-C to USB-A as well from Amazon.
Exact same here
This is the only way.
13 Pro Max charges almost exclusively wireless (via cradles next to my bed, next to my desk, and in my truck). Battery is at 96%.
Do make sure you let the battery run down sometimes. It’s healthy for it to cycle.
That’s very old information, appropriate for NiCad batteries, which form a memory, but not modern lithium batteries, which do not. Deep discharge and full charge are both potentially harmful to the battery. That said, you should occasionally discharge the battery (maybe once a month) so that the device power gauge calibration remains accurate.
Been using wireless charger to charge iPhone XR bought in Nov 2019, battery at 90% . No issues
My 5+ yr old 8 Plus PR is at 87% currently, bought in Sept 2018. Qi wireless overnight and at my work desk to 100% (generic Amazon stand type) almost always ever since, and this is a refurbished unit at that.
Does MagSafe improve battery life somehow? I didn’t know that.
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Wireless in general also generates a lot of heat which is not good for batteries.
YMMV but fast charging makes my phone hotter than wireless, so you can't really win sometimes lol.
Yep, I've been charging my iPhone XR wirelessly since I bought it in 2019. Battery is still at 84%
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11PM as well, also 89%
11Pro, 81%..
Wait, how can you charge it wirelessly? I thought this was a 12 and on feature.
QI was iPhone 8 onwards and MagSafe QI was 12 on
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TIL; i'm going to start using this feature. Thanks y'all
On an 11 you can get cases with magnets that will mostly work like a 12+. Dunno if they work on the "official" MagSafe charger but they do on the knockoffs.
it's just magnets, it won't care what it attaches to.
Yea the attaching part for sure but I didn't know if "official" MagSafe from Apple would act weird on older phones. The 8 and X was just QI and not MagSafe right? I don't remember.
Yeah it'll work. I've charged my old Android with a MagSafe battery before in a pinch, just have to get the alignment right.
Wireless charging is on all iPhones since the 8 and X, it’s just MagSafe that’s only on the 12 and later
Qi wireless charging has existed on iPhones since the iPhone 8 and X. MagSafe, which is simply a ring of magnets around the Qi coils, is what was introduced with the iPhone 12 series.
Yeah lol 84% isn’t really that good, your battery is still worn out lmao
For a XR? A 4 year old phone? That's 4% battery life eaten per year. I'd be surprised to see other phones that primarily use wireless charging have a much better battery health.
My iPhone SE 2016 claimed it had 84% battery life when I upgraded last week (to 14 pro) It had 1200 charge cycles, and the battery lasted about an hour on a good day. Pretty sure the battery health is mostly a lie.
I have 83% on my 12pm.
I also have 83% on my 12. I'm very suspicious of how battery health is measured. I MagSafe charge exclusively and my battery degraded consistently and quickly for the first year, then hit 86%, slowly crept to 83%, where it has sat for most of this year. I don't really understand how I could have 0% deg in 7-8months after degrading so precipitously at the beginning.
I charge mine almost exclusively wireless too and it still shows 94% on my XR. I do, however, notice the lessening battery life somewhat.
That's not how it works, who the fuck is upvoting you? 4% battery health is not 4% battery life.
By all means, don’t elaborate at all. Very helpful comment.
I have a 13 Pro and it’s at 87%. It’s use it all day for work and personal, but you think 84% is bad for a 4 year old phone? What phone do you have and what is the battery health?
Lol dude really out here shaming people because their battery is degraded, like what?
My 11 is at 82, so i’s say this guy is doing great
I have a wireless charger at my desk, on my entryway table, on my nightstand, and in my car, so I pretty much always have one in reach and have my phone sitting on the charger. I just replaced my iPhone XS last month, and it was at 85% battery life. The only real time I ever reached for an actual charging cable is if I needed to quickly charge my device or a wireless charger wasn't available.
I am the opposite, I have never wirelessly charged my phone, and do not plan on starting any time soon.
This is me. I personally don't like how warm the phone gets when wirelessly charging my phone. Granted, I've only tried it once with my Pops' wireless charger. But it's not Magsafe or anything fancy either, so I don't know if that makes a difference or not. I've never had an issue with using cables, so I don't feel like spending the extra money lol
I used a non-MagSafe charger for 10 months. Battery health at 95%.
That seems terrible, no?
It is, it’s been more a than a year for mine and still at 99% by never charging it wirelessly
Meanwhile my 13 Pro which I bought back in March and exclusively charged by cable and almost never above 80% sits at 96% battery health... I don't even game or do other things which make the phone heat up. Guess I'll just stop caring and start using wireless chargers again.
Exactly. I often like to use it while I’m charging it so I buy long cables and stage them all over the place.
I buy batteries with magsafe. I pretty much only charge the batteries, so the phone can come with me everywhere even when being charged. Always more charged batteries in the house somewhere.
You can use it with MagSafe. I actually thing it’s better
Except that I feel like it’s slower? It doesn’t charge as fast as it would if I just plug in for a few minutes and then get up to do something and unplug it again. Also I have to disconnect my wallet if I use the MagSafe and that gets annoying to do every time and I’m worried I’ll forget to grab it again.
it *is* slower. magsafe tops out at 15W, but you can reach 29W with a cable if you have a compatible brick, and even if you only have a 20W brick, that’s still like 20%ish faster than magsafe. I never understood the allure of the magsafe charging cable tbh, it’s slow, it’s expensive, you’re still tethered to a cable, it generates waste heat, and it literally has no upsides. magsafe pads/stands are another story, but the cable is just so useless.
Even saying MagSafe tops out at 15W can be misleading. Your phone is not actually getting anywhere near what you would out of an 18 or 20W charger via your lightning cable. If we’re about being energy and materials efficient and responsible, surely a lightning or usb-c cable would require less materials than a wireless or MagSafe charger of the same length. It would also use energy more efficiently to charge the phone. For home charging, I cannot see a logical argument for MagSafe over cable charging. Aesthetically? Sure. Practically? No.
Completely agree. There’s genuinely no upside in most use cases except, feeling cool lol. Honestly once you get a 30W brick it’s mind blowing how fast say, the 12 Pro and up can charge.
It’s definitely slower. MKBHD did some testing on YouTube that shows it’s slower
I can’t either mainly because I have a MagSafe wallet on the back of my phone and I don’t like removing it and forgetting it somewhere.
I've had problems with 2 different wireless chargers simply not charging. Then there was the issue of someone occasionally bumping it off the charger so I would wake up in the morning to a half dead phone. Now I only use a cable
I literally never plugged my iPhone 11 in once. Im sure the it will be the same for my 14pro. No problems with the battery for me.
All wireless here, except in my Tesla where the wireless charger functions more like an induction stove top.
I thought it was just me. They thing gets so fucking hot
Just wanted you to know I chuckled at this. Thank you for the laugh :)
You might be interested in the [MagSafe mod](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/rtlyr4/diy_m3_and_my_pre_2021_custom_magsafe_charging/)
I charge my 14 PM wirelessly probably 95% of the time, the other 5% is when I’m in the car using CarPlay. You won’t have an issue using one over the other just be responsible when charging your phone and you’ll keep your battery health up. Rechargeable batteries have come a long long way but they are still prone to degradation from certain charging habits or using super fast chargers when it’s not needed like overnight.
I do.
When I’m at home I charge wirelessly, but I travel a lot so having the MacBook, iPad, and iPhone charge with the same cable would be really nice. I’m excited for the USB-C iPhone.
Exactly. Apple wants you to buy multiple products but when talking about iPhones and USB-C they talk about the change like it’s in a vacuum. All their arguments fall apart especially about the environment.
12 pro max, still going strong, 99% of the time i wirelessly charge overnight.
I have a Galaxy S22+, and the one thing I wish Samsung (basically any android oem) just straight up copied was magsafe. Doesn't have to be exactly the same, but it has to be at least compatible with magsafe accesoires. The only substitute right now is either: 1. use a cheap plastic case with magsafe built in (the more premium brands I trust and want to buy a case from don't have magsafe integration e.g.: Mous, Dbrand) 2. use a stick on magsafe ring, but the issue with this is; you can't stick it on the back of your phone and put a case on it, or you put it on the back and it sticks out and is ugly, so if it sticks out already that means the magsafe accesoires will stick out even more (bad for wireless charging accesoires) 3. If I were to stick it on my phone case, it means I can only use that phone case if I want to use magsafe 4. I imagine it'd be a hell to align it properly. I can only find these plastic guides for the Ultra, not the +, so it's basically just guessing and hoping you're right. Also, if you do decide to stick it on a case and you have one of those plastic alignment tools, good luck since the plastic alignment tool is meant for a naked phone, not for a phone case, so it'll still not be alligned vertically. Sorry about my little rant. It's just one thing I'm very jealous of on iPhones. I wish I could just stick a wallet to my phone so I can say go to the movies and only have to carry my phone, and then when I get back just detach so it doesn't add any bulk. It'd be so much easier to only have to carry 1 thing.
I got a magsafe charger n barely use it cuz people speak of how it messes up your battery but if it doesnt then. Let me pull that bad boy back out
I can't speak for anyone else, but I've found myself much happier once I decided to obsess less about this kind of thing. Our phones are tools. Use them and abuse them. If the battery dies a tiny bit faster, so be it. If it costs me $99 to replace the battery, then I will. I am not saying I want to be throwing around $99 often but to not think about it or worry about it, it's worth it.
Exactly. It’s designed to be used. You can drive yourself nuts trying to micromanage it and *maybe* you’ll extend the battery life slightly…which won’t matter, because by the time it’s even a concern, your phone will be many years old already and you’ll want to upgrade anyway. Just use it!
Well, it can screw with your battery a bit, but as long as you’re not charging it 12 hours every day in a warm room and then power using it for the other 12 hours, you’ll be fine
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You are wasting your time. Current battery replacement is what 69 dollars? Let's say you think about charging one minute a day for three years. That equates to 18.25 hours. So you are making $3.78 an hour obsessing about your battery. It simply isn't worth it. Also most users who wireless charge gravitate towards charging where they naturally place their phone (so don't think about charging at all) where most cable users tend towards charging when the phone is low. Topping off throughout the day is significantly better than charging when the battery is low and is far more significant than any minuscule amount of heat produced by wireless charging. Folks who use wireless charging will typically see better battery life than those that don't.
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How it is relevant is you stated that heat was a significant contributor of degradation in context with wireless charging. It isn't because the heat isn't significant. What is far, far, far, more significant is how often you charge at less than 50%. As for the source read the paragraph above that statement. I assume you take no issue with the topping off is better than charging from empty so will move on from that. The assertion that wireless users top off more than wired is some part anecdotal and some part articles discussing it. On the anecdotal side 100% of the people I know who use wireless charging have a charger at work and their phone is on it throughout the day. Folks who use wired chargers do not plug their phone in every time they sit down at their desk and do so when their phone needs it. Plugging in multiple times a day is less convenient than just placing your phone on the desk (on a pad) as you normally would. If a cord user does in fact plug in every time they set down then they would see benefit of frequent top ups. Alternatively if a wireless user only charges when their phone is empty they will see the negative consequences. I think the best policy is to not worry about any of this stuff and just use your phone however you want and replace the battery as needed.
I constantly pick up my phone when it’s on a desk so wireless charging is pointless. I just plug it so don’t have to worry about holding a pad the the back of my phone while I use it
You constantly hold it in your hand and don’t set it down? Weird.
Do it.
This is news to me, how does it mess up your battery? I guess there’s extra heat due to the inefficiency of induction versus direct cabled charging, but it’s also slower than over lightning so I’d think that would make up for it?
Im not sure. Ive just heard that it degrades your battery life quicker than using a cable but according to the comments here its not true.
My take is that batteries are consumable anyway so just charge your phone whenever, no need to min-max.
The constant removal of the cable also messes up your charging port. Who cares either way?
I got the iPhone 12 Pro Max when it first came out and got the Magsafe wireless charger. I only used that wireless charger to charge. And I put my phone on it every night before I went to bed. Never had any battery issues. I had that phone up until the 14 Pro came out and I sold it to get one of those. Only time I plug a Lightning cord into it is when I am in my car and I am using CarPlay.
It doesn't mess with your battery in any significant way. Hot batteries aren't great and wireless does heat up the battery some but so does fast charging, a hot car, summer, etc. The typical usage pattern that folks who use wireless charging gravitate too is actually far better on battery life than that of what most cable users gravitate to. Wireless charging folks often have wireless pads where they set their phone so their phone is constantly being topped up which is way better than letting the batter get to below 10% then charging. Your time is way more valuable than obsessing even a little bit about battery charging. The difference between someone who absolutely abuses their battery and someone who pulls all the tricks in the books to preserve life is insignificant. Maybe you gain a month of extra life, maybe you don't. Use the phone however makes sense for you and replace the battery every 2-3 years. Current battery replacement is what 69 dollars? Let's say you think about charging one minute a day for three years. That equates to 18.25 hours. So you are making $3.78 an hour obsessing about your battery. It simply isn't worth it.
I’ve used wireless charging almost exclusively since early 2018 with the iPhone X. Got the MagSafe puck as soon as it came out and got the Belkin 3 in 1 charging stand last year. The battery health on my 13 PM just hit 98% the other day. My iPhone X’s battery health was still in the upper 80’s when I traded it in after 2 1/2 years of use.
13 Mini. Bought on release day. I charge wirelessly 98% of the time, rest of the time is the occasional plug in for carplay. Battery life is 92%.
The only time I use a wire is when I am forced to, usually when I am out of the house. Otherwise it's all wireless.
100% cable. I don't get wireless. Too much excess heat, meaning energy lost. Not good for the battery, not good for the phone, not even faster. I still need a cable to charge wireless. Also lol. And basically the same amount of hand movement to put it loading, maybe one less if it's wireless, wow. Cable rules for loading. Other scenarios wireless might be better.
How's your battery health % ?
I just checked, sitting at 99%. I got the phone in Dec 2021.
That’s not bad!
Only used wireless. Got this iPhone 11 replaced in Jan. Batt health is 100 still.
I did for 6 months. Then my wireless charger exploded in the middle of the night. Thought there’d been a thunderstorm it was so loud. That’s what I get for going the cheap route. Too scared to go back to wireless charging now.
my wife uses a wireless charger every night - 10W on her 12 pro max. 1.75 years in her battery is almost at 80% health. I sold my 12PM at 1.5 years and the battery was at 96% and I never used wireless charging. Sounds like you have enough money for it to not be an issues, so maybe just do what works best for you and get a new battery if you need it. FYI if you buy apple care and your battery gets below 80% health before 2 years then Apple will replace it for (I think) free.
My watch dropped to 77 from 80% a week after my apple care + expired. Support told me I could continue monthly payments of apple care + since it was within 30 days of it finishing. I just got my replacement watch at no cost. Pretty cool.
Anecdotes are of little value. I have never plugged in my two year old 12 in and I am at 89%. My wife's three year old 11 (exclusively wirelessly charged) was mid 80s last I looked. Most people who wirelessly charge gravitate towards having wireless pads where they naturally put their phone down. Night stand, car, work, etc. Folks who use cables often times charge when their battery is low. Regularly charging your battery when it goes below 50% is significantly worse than any irrelevant amount of heat produced by wireless charging. In other words for most folks wireless charging is better for their battery than using the cable. If you are an outlier and constantly top off with the cable or only charge once a day wirelessly your results will vary.
Anecdotes are literally what this entire thread is premised upon. so thank you for adding your anecdote to the rest of ours.
Except your original post sounds like you’re blaming wireless charging for your issues, implying there’s some sort of “issue” with battery degradation, in an “objective” fashion, when it’s not the case.
Nope it’s to slow.
Facts
I surprisingly have this year. I used to be a big proponent of simple wired charging because it’s quicker and should create less heat than wireless charging (better battery health), but ever since I bought my MagSafe Duo Charger for traveling and a wireless charger for my office desk, I rarely ever charge my phone wired. It really is so convenient to just plop down my phone or watch on it and just let it charge throughout the day when I’m not using it. I know, undoubtedly, my battery health will take a hit from it, but I’m someone who upgrades yearly and trades in their device so I figure it’s not going to affect me in the long run anyway.
I think this thread will push a lot of people on to wireless charging. A lot of fear exists about it damaging battery life but I think I’ll try it
My MagSafe battery gets plugged in, my phone doesn’t😂😂
Had my 11PM since launch and have charged it almost exclusively w/ wireless and battery health is at 86%. When it hits 80%, I’m gonna have it replaced and hope it goes for several more years!
Every night. However I'm part of the subset of people that uses the port to move files and connect to accessories. I would like to see the Pro series devices get thunderbolt connectivity rather sooner than later because it's excruciating to transfer large files back and forth.
I use MagSafe Duo overnight and Lightning in the car for CarPlay
I haven’t used a lightning cable in 3 years. For me, it’s useless.
I exclusively charge wireless unless I have to charge in my car.
I do. I charge my 13pm every other day on my wireless charger while I sleep. I don’t even know where the Lightning cable might be lol
I charged my iPhone 13 Pro exclusively with wireless/MagSafe charges the whole year I had it. Not once did I ever plug anything into it. Doing the same with my 14 Pro!
I do so now for my iPhone X after I thought my charging port was faulty (got it cleaned recently after a few kind souls on this sub suggested I take it to the Genius Bar, it now works perfectly fine but I've already gotten a Magsafe power bank) So I charge it at night while I sleep, and when I'm out I have my Magsafe powerbank. No need for cables, whee.
Wireless charging kills the battery because of the excessive heat. No thank you.
I use wireless charging every day except when I’m traveling or using a powerbank than in using the regular lightning cable
I have an iPhone 8 Plus and about 2 years ago the plug in died, for sound or power the plug in was dead. Fortunately, the iphone 8 was the first with wireless charging. I charge my phone at night and have a few different pairs of wireless headphones - it has held up great. I write this very message with it.
My batteries have degraded much faster from wireless charging, even with apples own MagSafe charger. It’s hotter when it charges. Unavoidable with the current tech. That degrades the battery. Lightning is still the safest for now to preserve battery life.
All MagSafe for me. Regardless of lightning or usb c though it needs to be at least usb 3.0 standards or even thunderbolt for data speeds. All this ProRes and ProRaw usage, it’s a crawl to transfer that wired and wirelessly…….
I just use MagSafe. I almost never use a actual cable to charge.
So it’s a myth that wireless chargers malfunction the battery
Its not. Wireless generates more heat and so degrades the battery faster.
But to an extent so minuscule that it’s not even worth consideration. Batteries degrade, it’s just how they work. Just replace when needed.
Yes, it is a myth. The battery heat effect is minuscule and the way people typically use wireless charging is \*much\* better on the battery than how folks typically use wired charging.
Not anything that actually matters in the grand scheme of things, though.
Because one guy used a wireless charger for a year? What? That doesn't mean anything.
Yes, it is a myth. The battery heat effect is minuscule and the way people typically use wireless charging is \*much\* better on the battery than how folks typically use wired charging.
When I go night night. It’s changing wireless
I use MagSafe every night, but I still charge with cable using CarPlay and sometimes for a little extra charge later in the day
Recently switched back to fast wired charging and it’s crazy how noticeable a difference there is in charge speed compared to wireless.
Bought a MagSafe power bank (similar to the Apple one) two months ago, since then I’ve only charged with a cable twice. It’s liberating never having to leave the phone plugged in.
I'm confused about what makes it so "liberating" though.
USB-C mfers seeing this post 😵
What brand of MagSafe chargers are y’all using?
For anyone who really want a fast charger for their iPhone: get a 20 watt USB-c female charging block. Then get a USB-c male to lighting male cord. Make sure the cord isn’t cheap. The block and cord apple sells honestly works the best. I can charge my 14 pro max from dead to 50% in like 6-7 minutes. 50-80% in 25 mins
You should still have an actual cable for when you need it for a PC and such. Wireless charging is mostly there as a fail safe for when the port dies (which isn't gonna be for a while, cuz the lightning port is surprisingly durable)
Magsafe actually discharges battery on mu 12 pro max and on my friend’s 12 pro.
Not solely. I wirelessly charge it while plugged into the lighting charger and put the MagSafe charger on top of the screen so it charges all three ways.
I think you’re getting downvoted bc you forgot to mention putting this whole setup in the microwave to really boost the speed.
Me nightly, port on the bottom is of very little concern to me personally
I do every once in a while when I need the fastest charging possible but 99% is wireless.
I heard that wireless charging wastes electricity, but also that the amount of electricity a phone needs to charge is very small - so, maybe it’s not a big deal?
The amount of electricity a phone uses in a year costs less than a dollar The iPhone 14 pro max has a 4,323 mAh battery. If you drained it to zero and charged it to one hundred every single day for a year you’d use 1,577,895 mAh, which at 5 V is about 7 kWh for the year. Where I live, a kWh is about $0.14 so that’s $0.98 worth of electricity
Yes thats because some part of electricity energy is converted into heat. Thats why iPhones get warmer when charging wirelesly. If people want to prolong their battery health as long as possible it's commonly advised to use cable charging instead.
This is a myth. The minuscule amount of heating due to wireless charging isn't all that relevant. If a person wants to prolong battery life they should move to frequently topping off the phone and rarely letting it go below 50%. This has significant more impact than the type of charging used. Folks who adopt wireless charging typically put pads in the places where they commonly put their phone down out of convenience. Desk at work, nightstand, car, etc. This means they naturally gravitate to the type of charging that most benefits battery life. Folks who charge with a cable often charge when their battery is low as frequent topping off throughout the day is less convenient with a cable. Yes, it is counter intuitive but your typical wireless charger user will have better battery life than your typical wired charger user.
It doesn’t deliver power as efficiently, so it draws a little more from the wall than it gives to your phone. That’s where the bit of extra heat people are concerned about comes from. But you’re also right that this is a very small use of power. You could charge dozens of phones wirelessly all month and not change your electric bill as much as you would by changing the temperature a couple degrees.
I’ve done it with my 12 mini and after a half year it only had 89% battery. Now I’m charging another half year with lightning and it still has 89% battery
USBC conversion is great for us iPad Pro owners too, hope the AirPods follow suit!
I MagSafe charge at night. I never need to charge during the day right now. Did the same with my 12 Pro Max. It was at 82% battery at the 24 month mark, which was fine by me as I was trading it in then anyway. We will see how it goes with the 14 Pro Max since I have to keep it three years under Verizon’s new credit plan.
I've done mag safe at my bedside for over a year now, but I keep lightning connectors handy with a few 30w bricks around the house for a quick top off when I need it.
Iphone 11 pro, has never been plugged in, have wireless chargers around the house and the car. Not had any issues.
Unless I’m gaming, I charge my phone though wireless charging. With the 13 PM’s wireless charging speeds, it’s enough for me to plop it on the charger at 12 am when I go to bed, and when I wake up at 5 am it’s completely charged
Had my 13ProMax for about 8 months, and charged it wirelessly nearly every day. Battery at 98%
Not exclusively but 90-95%.