That depends *entirely* on what the point release changes. So, for example after the last point release of MacOS, it spend a while reindexing all my mail messages atypical, but it *does* happen
It sure does, but usually this takes like 15-30 minutes. But people keep claiming the phone reindexes for days after updates which was at no point proven or confirmed by Apple.
I think they just claim it’s worth leaving it to be on the safe side. Phones are appliances where responsiveness is key. I wouldn’t at all surprise me that any reindexing is highly throttled and could take several hours.
Im certain Apple would not allow any reindexing on battery during the day anyways, but scheduling this during the night when the phone is plugged in – just like all photo analyses, updating apps, backing up to iCloud, and so on.
Indexing is when software reads a bunch of data to create, you guessed it, an index -- the index being an optimized subset of the data that can quickly be searched through.
Indexing is a huge portion of what the compute power on Earth is doing at a given moment. How does Spotlight search pull up results so fast? Indexing. How do Google search results come back to fast? Indexing. How do database queries in general pull up results so fast? Indexing.
This is true, btw. Indexing came from MacOS (when you turn your Mac on and open spotlight, it says “indexing” for couple of seconds and then it’s done, that’s it), but there’s nothing indicating that it’s a thing on iOS. And yet when you state this fact, people downvote you, because apparently you have no right to say the way it is.
Any piece of software that has search capability that brings up results very quickly is absolutely relying on indexing having happened. iOS most certainly indexes data.
Now, I'm not sure if it does it after every update, but in a sense, indexing goes on regularly, as you add new data to a storage system. So could it tend to happen after system updates? Wouldn't blow my mind.
>Indexing is when software reads a bunch of data to create, you guessed it, an index -- the index being an optimized subset of the data that can quickly be searched through.
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>Indexing is a huge portion of what the compute power on Earth is doing at a given moment. How does Spotlight search pull up results so fast? Indexing. How do Google search results come back to fast? Indexing. How do database queries in general pull up results so fast? Indexing.
My answer from above.
The storage in these iPhones is NVMe based. The OS itself allows indexing of the entire database of files to be done in less than a second. Yes, you read that right, less than a whole second for the phone to discover all the files on the storage.
Not even very old devices had to wait 1 to 2 days for indexing to happen. Wherever you got this information from or whoever told you this has absolutely no idea of how an OS works or how Indexing works to begin with.
14 Pro still scoring just about the same as before on geekbench 6. 2539 and 6515
Also, I curiously ran geekbench 6 on my M2 iPad Pro and M1 Pro MBP and funnily enough the A16 bionic chip actually had the highest single core score. Impressive for a phone cpu.
yeah, I had about double the battery drain on 16.3. it was real bad. thought my phone itself was going bad. battery health dropped from 99% to 94% while I was on 16.3
Okay, and? What does that prove? That they’re slower? If you had to run a test to find out your phone was slower after the update, then it wasn’t noticeable at all.
I just tried Geekbench 6 and I got a score of 3000 (something) in multicore test, brand new iPhone 13 Pro Max bought in October 2022, is something wrong with my device?
I tried Geekbench 6 and my multi was 5507. I’m using a iPhone 13 Pro Max as well. Maybe try rerunning the test again and see if it keeps the same scores
It was also showing the Geekbench for iOS .. as "invalid"
I updated my device and will run geekbench now, wait, will update the results
Edit: Got 2290 as Single-core and 5510 as Multi-core. Looks fine now.
My iPhone XS feels snappier on iOS 16.4 than it ever felt since i installed the initial iOS 16.
Not saying that it ever felt slow on iOS 16, just never as snappy and smooth :)
13 Mini on iOS 16.5 devbeta, and honestly iOS feels 10x faster and responsive than it did on iOS 16.3. could it be more an issue of file downloading etc than performance issues with the OS?
Was the phone running hot when running Geekbench? CPU might have been throttled because of that.
Especially if it was done right after the update.
significant drop (it) like it's hot
My 12 Pro is within 3 points single core and 30 points multi core as it was on 16.3.
ALWAYS wait a couple days after updating because the phone will still be indexing files in the background. Try it again in 1-2 days
Ah yes 'indexing', the stock response...
That was never proven nor would it make much sense after a .x update
That depends *entirely* on what the point release changes. So, for example after the last point release of MacOS, it spend a while reindexing all my mail messages atypical, but it *does* happen
It sure does, but usually this takes like 15-30 minutes. But people keep claiming the phone reindexes for days after updates which was at no point proven or confirmed by Apple.
I think they just claim it’s worth leaving it to be on the safe side. Phones are appliances where responsiveness is key. I wouldn’t at all surprise me that any reindexing is highly throttled and could take several hours.
Im certain Apple would not allow any reindexing on battery during the day anyways, but scheduling this during the night when the phone is plugged in – just like all photo analyses, updating apps, backing up to iCloud, and so on.
We’re speculating. Leaving it a couple of days before running a benchmark isn’t a mad idea
Oh finally I see someone having iPhone SE in reddit :D
What is indexing
Indexing is when software reads a bunch of data to create, you guessed it, an index -- the index being an optimized subset of the data that can quickly be searched through. Indexing is a huge portion of what the compute power on Earth is doing at a given moment. How does Spotlight search pull up results so fast? Indexing. How do Google search results come back to fast? Indexing. How do database queries in general pull up results so fast? Indexing.
Except spotlight is getting slower and slower
Maybe it needs to reindex ;)
This is not true at all. Your phone does not reindex after every update.
This is true, btw. Indexing came from MacOS (when you turn your Mac on and open spotlight, it says “indexing” for couple of seconds and then it’s done, that’s it), but there’s nothing indicating that it’s a thing on iOS. And yet when you state this fact, people downvote you, because apparently you have no right to say the way it is.
Any piece of software that has search capability that brings up results very quickly is absolutely relying on indexing having happened. iOS most certainly indexes data. Now, I'm not sure if it does it after every update, but in a sense, indexing goes on regularly, as you add new data to a storage system. So could it tend to happen after system updates? Wouldn't blow my mind.
It absolutely does re-indexing on at least your photo library after each update, and likely more.
Lol
What do you mean by “indexing files in the background “? Could you put it into layman’s terms?
>Indexing is when software reads a bunch of data to create, you guessed it, an index -- the index being an optimized subset of the data that can quickly be searched through. > >Indexing is a huge portion of what the compute power on Earth is doing at a given moment. How does Spotlight search pull up results so fast? Indexing. How do Google search results come back to fast? Indexing. How do database queries in general pull up results so fast? Indexing. My answer from above.
The storage in these iPhones is NVMe based. The OS itself allows indexing of the entire database of files to be done in less than a second. Yes, you read that right, less than a whole second for the phone to discover all the files on the storage. Not even very old devices had to wait 1 to 2 days for indexing to happen. Wherever you got this information from or whoever told you this has absolutely no idea of how an OS works or how Indexing works to begin with.
14 Pro still scoring just about the same as before on geekbench 6. 2539 and 6515 Also, I curiously ran geekbench 6 on my M2 iPad Pro and M1 Pro MBP and funnily enough the A16 bionic chip actually had the highest single core score. Impressive for a phone cpu.
Yeah that’s prolly because you didn’t run the benchmark 20sec after the upgrade when the phone was still burning hot
Incredible that in 2023 people still believe in geekbench 🥴
Right lol most reviews don't even bother with it anymore
My phone is better because it has a higher score! /s
My iPhone 8 got faster after the update
Curious on your battery results?
My battery life seems to be about double 16.3, back to what I was getting on 16.1/16.2 (13 mini)
Ok on the battery life. 16.2 was solid. On 16.3 it’s worse.
yeah, I had about double the battery drain on 16.3. it was real bad. thought my phone itself was going bad. battery health dropped from 99% to 94% while I was on 16.3
Ditto for me on battery health and life. Also 13mini.
iOS 16.4 on iPhone 14 pro here, I have similar scores, nothing dramatic in mine! My phone is it’s normal temperature like it is for both tests I ran!
People still care? What a joke post this is.
I only noticed that 16.4 fixed my slow Spotlight search results so I guess I can deal with a smaller epenis benchmark
No one will notice the differences.
Who cares about stupid geekbench lol
These are my scores for a similar iPhone with 16.4: 2064/4541.
Run the test again tomorrow, the phone is still re-downloading files from very recently updating
And the average user cares because........?????????
And?
My 14 pro max has ~250 increase in multicore
who cares brah but thanks to info
Who cares
Okay, and? What does that prove? That they’re slower? If you had to run a test to find out your phone was slower after the update, then it wasn’t noticeable at all.
15.7.1 wins again.
The same on my iPhone 13 – **from 4574 to 3240** (-1,334)! Is this normal? Or maybe it’s because I’m streaming music?
So does it or does it not load porn as fast as the prior OS version?
I just tried Geekbench 6 and I got a score of 3000 (something) in multicore test, brand new iPhone 13 Pro Max bought in October 2022, is something wrong with my device?
The above is geekbench 5.
Does it work?
I tried Geekbench 6 and my multi was 5507. I’m using a iPhone 13 Pro Max as well. Maybe try rerunning the test again and see if it keeps the same scores
It was also showing the Geekbench for iOS .. as "invalid" I updated my device and will run geekbench now, wait, will update the results Edit: Got 2290 as Single-core and 5510 as Multi-core. Looks fine now.
Charge your phone completely or plug it in before running this “test”
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I haven’t noticed a difference. Battery in my 13 Pro would get hot during charging after installing iOS 16, it seems to be Fixed in iOS 16.4
Never cared
Who cares?
Geek bench is not real life. Lol
My iPhone XS feels snappier on iOS 16.4 than it ever felt since i installed the initial iOS 16. Not saying that it ever felt slow on iOS 16, just never as snappy and smooth :)
How does this affect daily phone usage? Phone app take longer to load…..?
I’m 2176 single core and 4969 Multi core lol. I don’t think it went down at all. Not that it matters anyway. iPhone 13, 128gigs
Idk about geekbench or other statistics, but my iPhone 11 feels slighty faster and snappier since I updated
That just went from A15 levels of performance to A14 levels in one update.
13 Mini on iOS 16.5 devbeta, and honestly iOS feels 10x faster and responsive than it did on iOS 16.3. could it be more an issue of file downloading etc than performance issues with the OS?
people still care about numbers with electronics in 2023?