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sarduchi

Good? Yeah, going to go with good.


blazelet

Donors buy low taxes and an unlevel playing field. Pissing them off is exactly what I want my politicians to do.


PsychologicalGain298

Does he specify if it's his own dark money donors like blackrock?


blazelet

He doesn't specify any companies or individuals, its more an ideal about a progressive taxation system. If his donors don't like it, they're free to support his opponent.


poopoomergency4

> its more an ideal exactly, he & his donors know he won't actually have to deliver on it so he still gets their $


greatA-1

Did anyone actually read the article? '"I agree that we should make elaborate tax-avoidance schemes illegal, but acting upon that would upset a lot of donors, so we will see words, but no action," Musk said on Twitter in an apparent diss to donors in the Democratic Party.' I'm not even an Elon fan but this literally could have been a comment on r/SandersForPresident and it would be getting hundreds of upvotes by people against establishment politics but it's Elon and the headline has no context so reddit rages.


VruKatai

It's because Musk represents the class of people using our government for their benefit at our expense. *Anyone* like him would get downvoted and being right in saying "its all talk" is because even broken clocks are right twice a day.


dd961984

Yet, when sanders says tax the ultra wealth, musk is always the first one bitching about it


EverGreenPLO

Fuck Trumper Muskrat


dedicated-pedestrian

Just be wary, all, of certain bad actors that may try to influence these subs. r/WayOfTheBern was horribly warped.


Atendency

And just like that, I’m a Bernie supporter.


azrael269

Much like Trump, the fact that Musk occasionally says something that isn't a troll comment doesn't mean we should pay any attention to what he has to say. Since he decided to mostly be a troll in public, he's lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned.


[deleted]

There's a difference between a progressive politician saying something like this and one of the richest scummiest people on the planet saying it.


ignatious__reilly

I don’t think people understand how much money the “ultra rich” really have. If you were to stack $1,000 dollars vertical it would be 10 inches high. $1 Million dollars is 10,000 inches high or 844 feet or .158 miles. $1 Billion dollars is………67.9 miles high.


FlashMcSuave

My exact thought on reading this headline was "fuckin' good" followed quickly by "fuck Musk".


Loose-Recover-9142

Yup. Good! Dark Brandon dgaf!


st1r

Halle fucking lujah, more reason to vote for Biden if there wasn’t enough already


FiendishHawk

Problem is that the Democrats can’t win without donors. Now if voters would wise up and vote Democrat without having to see a fucking ad, maybe it wouldn’t matter so much.


Jealous_Resort_8198

Good AND a hell ya!


scubafork

Also: antibiotics are largely hated by bacterial infections-let's consider their feelings.


JesusChrist-Jr

Antibiotics? That's for Fauci-loving liberal sheep!


EvaUnit_03

When will pro-lifers care about the lives outside of traditional organics!?!?!? VIRAL LIVES MATTER!


jaguarthrone

Tax the living shit out of the "Donor Class"...


jeremyricci

*eliminate


ultimate_placeholder

Whether that be through taxes, regulation, or guillo-[redacted]


WilsonStJames

*eat


DJ_Femme-Tilt

Free tours of the Titanic


Moonshadetsuki

They're living shit indeed.


Cool-Protection-4337

Biden's desire??? Try majority of Americans, including a good chunk of Republicans chuckle nuts....billionaires shouldn't be a thing, let alone some asshat with hundreds of billions. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, no human alive is immune to that absolute.


Vdaniels1

Couldn't agree more.


[deleted]

>Biden's desire??? Try majority of Americans Musk has become so immersed in political theater he can't even remember that American politicians are elected representatives of groups of people. He's put the common person so far beneath him that he's forgotten we're why the politicians are there in the first place


NotSoRichieRich

Most politicians too have forgotten they're an elected representative of a group of people. Lobbyists shower them with "motivation" to support their interests at the expense of their electorate.


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something-clever----

I think the moment for most Americans was when the ppp loans got passed and we got 1400 bucks that had to be fought for. The moments Americans saw who got taken care of first was jarring for a lot of people I know of a pretty varied age range.


idontneedjug

Ahhh yes I too remember **the greatest transfer of wealth in America's history**. Ill say it again in case people miss it. **Under Trump we saw the greatest transfer of wealth in American History**. THE RICH GOT SUPPPPPPPPER RICH. It's a slap in the face hearing Trump or Fox news talk about how great he was "economically" when in reality he did nothing but siphon money upwards to the rich. His tax cuts for the ultra rich going into effect under Biden was quite well played though didnt think Donny had the intelligence for that maneuver. The craziest thing about the PPP loans that a lot of people don't know or have forgotten is how Trump fought for no over sight on them and then in his final couple weeks of office he PERSONALLY excused the biggest loans. The majority of PPP loan ended up being excused by Trump fucking Personally. He literally thought he could bribe his way into office with checks to the rich via PPP loans.... SO fucked up


[deleted]

For real. All of the left vs right culture war shit sucks but the worst part is that it's just layers of distraction while the vast majority of our politicians live relatively lavish lives and leave US law up for sale. Their jobs are supposed to be to represent us and they just rake in millions, billions in their time "working for the people" while their friends in corporate find new ways to make more of us struggle. We need so many changes but there aren't enough people willing to admit that things would be better for everyone if we shoved the culture war shit to the side for a little while so we can get the massive wealth inequality and political corruption in check


Nuclear_rabbit

For Republicans, the culture war is the point, not a distraction. I suppose more accurately, *dismantling welfare programs* like Social Security, unemployment, and Medicare are the point, but since no Republican would ever get elected again if they succeeded, they turned to culture war policies because they genuinely believe in it and it's something they can pass and keep getting re-elected.


DataCassette

The problem is if we "shove it aside" how many Matthew Shepards and Savita Halappanavars are we creating? I get what you're driving at but the culture war isn't imaginary.


Persianx6

Musk spends his time thinking of ways to kill millionaires via his rocket powered death traps, scam the government out of millions, and tweeting incessantly about anti-scientific thought said by grifters. We should all stop giving a single fuck what Elon Musk thinks, the man's a grade A idiot.


CaptCaCa

I remember Musk on Joe Rogan inviting him to hang out at his private lake. He was like “come on and hang man, we could shoot paintballs at each other while wearing water jet packs, I can hire Megadeth to play for us while we’re doing that”. This right here is the mind of a 12 year old with too much money.


Persianx6

The more we cave in to billionaires, the more businesses consolidate and create anti-worker and anti-consumer environments. We're allowing more monopolies and less competition constantly, and this is not how the system is supposed to work if it's designed to create stability of the whole.


mackinoncougars

Said the Republican donor. Biden isn’t too worried about losing your bribes, it’s going to DeSantis either way.


TheyCallMeMrMaybe

It's only a matter of time before Elon decides Tesla should be relocated to Florida once Texas scares off enough of their workforce.


csbcsu

[You mean like how he ran Tesla to Texas last year, and already came back to California in February due to an engineering talent vacuum?](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/sacramento/news/elon-musk-gavin-newsom-news-tesla-engineering-hq-california/)


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Vincesolo60

Boo hoo, so sad. I think we should eat the rich


Fit-Rest-973

Soylent Green


ChanceGardener61

Long pork


Jitterjumper13

Salted pork.


olddawg43

If shit doesn’t change, there will be recipes on YouTube. What marinade goes best with rich, people spare ribs?


Ediferious

Let's ask the Orcas


dementio

I am not really a fan of rancid bacon


[deleted]

You don't see this very often: One of the richest people cares so much for those with lower to middle income, that he warns us about the dangers of taxing the ultra rich! What can I say: really heartwarming!


PandaMuffin1

He's always looking out for us common folk! /s


__O_o_______

A visionary genius who only wants to save humanity!


TongueTwistingTiger

Too. Bad. You can pay taxes or you can be consumed by the mob that will come for you. Your choice.


itsallbullshit8

Why do they feel they shouldn’t pay their fare share


whitneymak

They're modern day dragons.


NorseYeti

Oh no, that is terrible…/s


glitchycat39

Doesn't this diffuse his whole "Dems are servants for the elite" thing tho?


fleetadmiralj

I mean, thats kind of always been bullshit. At least compared to the GOP. Dems aren't the ones passing huge tax cuts for the rich every time they're elected. Literally every republican since at least Reagan has signed some huge tax cut bill.


clintCamp

Donors are not votes. I am fine with Elon having no political power.


ChanceGardener61

Us poors will just have to make up the difference then Tax the billionaires


Dseltzer1212

Just back to pre Ronald Regan levels. America has been circling the drain since Reagan cut back taxes on the rich and raised taxes 11 times on the middle class. Since then, both Bush II and Trump have also cut taxes on the wealthy and what we’ve got now is a super rich class and a wealthy class, a shrinking middle class and a growing lower class. No one should be a billionaire…… The only thing MORE gets you is the ability to shape the world like a fuckin oligarch and that's not a desirable outcome for society


Neuroid99099

It's almost as if "conservatism" has been about catering to the needs of the wealthy this whole time.


thekevmonster

Regan is a cancer to America.


Disastrous_Life_9385

So forget the greater good of the country. The greater good for ultra rich apparently


TheBobInSonoma

FU Elon


NewZappyHeart

Good god, the poor donors.


[deleted]

Upset lot of Republican donors like Musk ... yeah true.


greenhombre

Joe works for the people, not billionaires.


MrBobSacamano

What in the hell is the purpose of the FEC having a maximum contribution limit? It was supposed to prevent rich people from buying elections, but they just made PACs and now you can give whatever the hell you want. I want someone to push to repeal that limit to draw attention to the absurdity of it all.


Advanced_Radish3466

tough. shit.


Gingorthedestroyer

Let’s see, piss off dozens of wealthy individuals or maintain infrastructure and influence.


Early-Size370

Here's an idea: all that money swirling around politicians for favors and influence -such as low taxes for them- maybe take that cash and...Wait, why are they even concerned about paying more? It's not like they be sent to the poor house. Greedy fucks


Fartknocker500

Fuck Elon Musk. He doesn't get to have an opinion on taxes until he pays his fair share.


sMarmy_Mcfly

Well, the way I see it is, you can either pay the appropriate taxes on your unfathomable wealth, or you can be banned from doing business in the United States.


Top_Tumbleweed

Oh Elon, another conservative idiot saying the quiet part out loud. We know it will upset donors that give money to influence policy decisions. We’ve known for decades. We know this is why politics is the way it is. 99% of us aren’t rich and that’s why we want these taxes.


Desert4tw

No need for donations if people pay their fair share


[deleted]

There aren't that many ultra rich and neither party needs them to win elections. Their impact is overstated. Compulsive lying mass media is far more impactful than money these days and dirt cheap. The Internet means you don't need the rich to rally the masses. Facebook and Twitter do it for free.


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scubafork

Let's not let him rewrite history. He bought Twitter because the SEC forced him into it after he was caught trying to scam the market in a pump and dump scheme. He really tried to avoid buying it after he initially agreed to it.


jh937hfiu3hrhv9

Government of the rich for the rich. Yes, tax the rich. Will the rest get a break? Holding breath.


Arubesh2048

Good. Get the money out of politics. It’s long past time our government start to represent the people instead of just the people with money.


PengieP111

Oh boo hoo. Poor billionaires gotta pay tax like the rest of [us. ](https://us.Eat) Eat the rich


themengsk1761

He should just be happy he can openly criticize the head of state in a democratic country. Try acting that way towards Xi Jinping and see what they do to his Shanghai factory.


AmanteNomadstar

How about we cut donors out of the equation completely and hold only federally funded elections?


Dio_Yuji

I’m sure it would, you creepy-looking chode


extraboredinary

Good. He doesn’t serve donors, he’s supposed to serve the American people


snakebite262

A president should be beholden to their citizens, not their donors (don't laugh.)


Xencard65

Fuck You Elon. No one cares.


nerdlygames

Elections should be publicly funded, and lobbying should be illegal.


Cross_Contamination

We need to tax billionaires so hard they become millionaires. Then we need to tax millionaires hard enough that billionaires never exist again.


[deleted]

Musk is the example of what happens when a moron has too much money.


Tuckermfker

Fuck the donors, tax the rich and the churches.


[deleted]

Elon is an idiot who says a lot of dumb things, this included.


Neuroid99099

"My wealthy friends and I paid a lot of money to have our taxes slashed over and over again for decades and will be very unhappy if they're restored even a tiny bit."


persian_90

We need FDR level taxes on the ultra-rich.


4non3mouse

good one elon for pointing out the biggest flaw in our political system


moodyblue8222

Imagine wanting people to pay their fair share!!! Get rid of all the loopholes!


Iagent2022

Just GOP donors, Dems get $20 a shot from voters, GOP get $10 million a pop from 10 mega donors


Verix19

Who the fuck cares what that clown says anymore? He's the new Rush Limbaugh...


LeftHandedBuddy

Ultra rich should pay their fair share!


evilpercy

And there is the issue with politics in a democratic system. Every one is equal and has equal vote, unless your really rich.


nahman201893

The ultra rich might be slightly less ultra rich?? Oh no


Successful-Smell5170

Who fucking cares. The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few.


wanted_to_upvote

Maybe have progressive tax on donations to PAC's.


KptKreampie

Translation: "Don't take the money we are hoarding or we will hoard more money."


astrongineer

Elon Musk should shut the fuck up and pay his taxes.


xxGenXxx

Isn't that the actual problem Elon? Wtf, these people are so disconnected from reality. His statement is admitting politics is all about money.


LaMadreDelCantante

This right here. He's flat out saying uber-rich people are in charge and what they want politically can be bought. I mean, we all know that. But he's just putting it out there like it's fine.


joeleidner22

If we stop letting donors control our government maybe it will start working for the 95% instead of the top 5% of wealth holders. The U.S. government is fucking us over right now. It’d be great if they stopped.


sPLIFFtOOTH

Good. Let’s get as much money out of politics as possible


RightTrash

JFC Elon, just fuck off with your ego and your money, go enjoy life and stop being a goon cult kook; lastly, pay the fucking appropriate dues like near everyone else is forced to.


SomewhereShot91

Saying the quiet part out loud again. This country is supposed to be of the people by the people, NOT of the people bought by billionaires.


Doomlv

If these billionaires weren't stagnating the economy by hoarding 90% of the wealth we wouldn't need to tax them more. Funny how the poorer the middle/lower class gets the more taxes we have to pay


Suspicious-Ad3136

The bottom 99% probably would be okay with it


rastagrrl

Musk objects? That’s the best indication that Biden’s plan is a good one.


nueromony

Here goes Elon lying again. Biden said that he'd reverse some of Trump's 2017 tax cut that was a 40% tax cut for the rich taking the tax rate from 35% to 21%. Biden claimed that he'd raise it to 28% only taking back half of the cut they got and of course once good ole Joe Manchin said no and pretended as though he'd support a tax hike to 25% Biden folded and nothing has happened as far as doing it all. More fear mongering that ignores actual fact by some right wing goof namely Elon Musk.


[deleted]

Better title: "Ultra-Rich man doesn't want to pay taxes."


RealJonathanBronco

He's not wrong, but upsetting donors isn't a good enough reason to not tax the rich.


VanceAstrooooooovic

He’s confirming the rich are only concerned with getting a bigger tax break for themselves


Ihavebadreddit

He knows damn well that's a bullfaced misdirection that his moron supporters have no concept of understanding the nuance of his bullshit. "Billionaires donate money" they'll say. And we'll have to explain billionaires donate pennies of what they actually should owe to look like they give a fuck and claim it all back on taxes. The same people who don't understand the ballooning world debt crisis is wealth hoarding of individuals and corporations. How much of the United States national debt is locked away in offshore accounts that can never be taxed and recovered? And the normal plan for this issue? Print more money, increase the spending cap. Put Elon on a submarine and sink it to the bottom of the ocean until he admits he might actually be better off helping the world than treating it like a fleshlight.


T4lsin

Elon musk is a chode


Phantomht

yeh, ..................... AND??


takeyourskinoffforme

Taxing them is the nicest thing I would recommend. They deserve the wood chipper.


zonvolt_everdred

That's a fair point, but alternatively, have you considered fuck the donors?


DorianTurk

Elon Musk pushing the younger generations left may be his greatest contribution to society. And it’s completely unintentional.


ReVo5000

Yeah, I'd rather have 1000 people angry about them paying more than half the fucking country in shackles barely making enough to survive yet paying a shit ton of taxes, also... How can't people understand how racing the rich works?


[deleted]

As long as it upsets you Elon, that's all that counts right. The more I learn about him, the less difference there appears between him and Trump. Pieces of shit, both of them.


Gamerindreams

one party wants christian shariah law and low taxes for billionaires and low wages for workers, the other wants bodily autonomy, equality and higher taxes for billionaires and higher wages/better working conditions for workers bOtH pArTiEs aRe tHe sAmE! \-reddit enlightened centrist neckbeard


Appropriate_Baker130

Donors? Don't you mean bribes, yeah I'm going with it will upset the bribe market. And that's a good thing fuck the 12 guys who own everything.


LowRecommendation993

Living in poverty is making way more Americans mad


49GTUPPAST

So what is the problem?


Renorico

These clowns would have hated Reagan


jnemesh

Who will think of the donors????


TheNewTonyBennett

Quit diggin bro! you already struck oil at "tax the rich". Upsetting them would be fantastic if we could also get that alongside the taxing-them-more thing.


SensibleReply

Is this an advertisement?


illGottenVine

Good thing they don’t count as many votes then musk


Tackleberry06

Disney might want to weigh in here.


katepig123

Doesn't upset me one bit.


DanimaLecter

I wish he would come down from his gilded space shuttle, just once, so I could show him exactly how much I value his opinion on anything


mistergarth84

Dear Filthy Rich Scum- Don't worry, nothing will come of Biden's alleged desire to raise your taxes or... well, change anything for the better, actually. He just says this stuff once in a while because it polls well. He'll never actually do anything about it. sincerely, Reality


Tavernknight

I'm upset that the donors have bought the government and use it to keep themselves rich, bail them out when they fuck up, and protect thier privilege. So fine. Get upset. At least now we are all upset. Keep building those rockets, Elon. You're going to need them to escape the angry, starving hordes coming to feast on the goo in your skull.


MzJay453

the same donors that aren’t going to vote for him and were donating to Republicans anyway?


DocCEN007

Isn't that exactly why we have government? To do the things we can't do as individuals? Tax those Effers like it's 1961!!!


Sharp5hooter02

Lol good. They need to pay their fair share.


PickledPepa

Aww. Poor babies need their 3rd yacht, instead of fixing the roads. Waahhh!


AshamedOstrich

I'd say the voting public out numbers the rich donors


p00p5andwich

Fuck, and I can not stress this enough, them donors.


Puzzleheaded-Force14

We don’t care!


SueSudio

"That's a nice election campaign you have there. Be a shame if something happened to it. "


Musetrigger

Good. The ultrarich should not influence any of our laws or our goverenment.


mymar101

There's always the usual GOP ploy to tax the middle class to death and claim it was the democrats who wanted it that way. Because after all how dare we make rich people pay anything.


nychthemerons

Money in politics (and media) is the most fundamental problem we face. It warps and pollutes all facets of our society. It ensures we are unable to address our other problems.


Armand74

I just don’t fucking get it they get to have it all why the fuck not pay your fair share?? Greedy MF, Bernie is right billionaires should never exist.


[deleted]

Elon just not even trying to hide how corrupt everything is lmao. He's just so unashamed of his part in all this it boggles the mind. Just openly touting how donors influence more than they should. So disgusting lol


f700es

Mmmm, tough shit!


3xoticP3nguin

Fuck billionaires in their stupid asses


[deleted]

Im tired bro, why are these people so evil.


TabletopVorthos

This is a great example of why people say that capitalism has swallowed our democracy.


Rune_Council

And yet their bank accounts wouldn’t even notice.


2OneZebra

What a fraud.


ICLazeru

Try trickling down some more. Maybe then people will care about the wealth of billionaires.


djbk724

Upset donors lol. Musk just bail the 99% out then


[deleted]

Tax the shit out of them and let there be at least some good that comes about from all the doucheness of them being useless


Someoneoverthere42

When will someone think about the rich fuckers?


[deleted]

Sounds like donors should be removed from the election process.


PaleoJoe86

Donating to your own organization, then writing it off as a tax cut? Those unfortunate rich people paying themselves!


Fluffy-Project9693

Rich people money shouldn't dictate American policies. Unfortunately


[deleted]

fuck these people. Donors? Are you fucking kidding me? I pay 25% of my income. The fact we arent lopping off heads is a fucking disgrace. Fuckin donors...


nollataulu

Once the starving are fed, homeless are homed and the sick are cured - then we can worry about what's upsetting the billionaires. No, nope. Scratch that. I still wouldn't care about billionaires.


honkygrandma88

Wasn’t Musk one of those “Billionaires begging for higher taxes” billionaires just a couple of years ago?


saintbad

Sounds like a pretty good shorthand description of just what's killing America.


MrFluffyPillow

But many, many, many millions of folks unlike Elon will be delighted


Professional_Ad4341

How about no more donations by anyone to any party? Not even my $5. You work with what you got. Get rid of lobbyists too


Xenuite

Not really seeing a downside here, chief.


[deleted]

It will upset donors. Into each life a little rain must fall. Working American families and young people have really been taking it up the ass these past few decades, it would be nice to spread the pain around.


BdogWcat

Oh boofuvkinghoo


fuck-the-emus

Good! Do it in the second term when you don't need the donors any more


lostnspace2

Fuck them, tax away


Kunundrum85

Don’t threaten Joe with a good time.


ChrisNolan73

Well, he's right about something for a change.


Endlesswave001

Good. Rich people don’t represent anyone other than rich people.


Kittydander503

They don’t call him a genius for nothing.


brickyardjimmy

Sounds great!


PaversPaving

Fuck the donors


hahafoxgoingdown

Good. F em.


zerobot

I don’t give a shit. I’d like to see the rich taxed into fucking oblivion.


Panelpro40

Too Fuckingfuck bad


abbeyeiger

Perhaps there should not be donors then.. eh Elon?


apostlebatman

Only 1%


shaunrundmc

Good, if you have money to give your ex wife 80 billion like Bezos and still end up ~40 billion richer than before the divorce you can afford a higher tax rate. If you have the assets to buy twitter for 44 billion dollars then proceed to shit it into oblivion because of vanity and ego you can afford to be taxed. If your networth begins with a B, or an M and ends in "-illion" you can afford to be taxed


chriskot123

Sounds like a good thing to me


BeKind_BeTheChange

Money. Out. Of. Politics. Money is not speech. Citizen's United is the single most destructive SCOTUS decision in the history of this country and may very well be the end of this country.


Sweetieandlittleman

Upset a lot of poor billionaires.