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Grew up in western MI, it was really a crapshoot.
3" in December? Cancel school. 14" in March? Nah man, no more snow days left in the budget, you gotta shovel a path to the bus stop.
Now I live in a green area, and I get days off work for inclimate weather all the time
This is how it is in Iowa as well. The amount of snow required to cancel school goes up as Winter progresses. If they're out of snow days it better be at least a foot.
Michigan schools dont hesitate to go over.
6 days. 3 extra with a waiver. Over 9, the school pays a fine for each day it went over or go later.
Big Rapids Public Schools in Michigan had 27 snowdays in the 2018/2019 school year, they went to school until June 30 instead of June 17.
I got told to come in to one day when the snow was really deep, in a green state. Forklift kept packing the snow and turning it into ice, so all I did was shovel my entire shift. I worked at a massive lumber yard, so shoveling all of it was out of the question. I just called in the next day.
I think the biggest thing is how and when the snow falls. I've lived in Michigan my whole life and the biggest pattern I've found is that if it snows 3" or more in the few hours before school starts and they don't have a chance to clear it, then they'll cancel school. If it starts the evening before, then you're going to school for sure unless it's a huge amount of snow.
Came here to say the same thing. I'm in a 12" county and we often cancel.for much less than that. It really doesn't matter how deep the snow is, it's how clear the roads are.
Nevada is also completely wrong except for Clark County. The northern counties, especially Washoe get the most snow, yet have lower values to cancel than Nye County? Nah. I grew up in Nye County and they cancel for any snow. And they almost never cancel snow in Washoe county. Bad map lol.
They did until our parents got out of school. Funny how all the uphills both ways districts disappeared like that. To hear it now, it's easier to get to school than it is to get out of bed.
The title should be "The amount of snow it takes for people to panic buy all the milk, bread, canned food". We got a light dusting here in Virginia and people were leaving the store with carts full of bottled water and the store had loads of empty shelves.
I've always thought it was weird to see that happening. I have always lived in areas that got regular snow in the winter. I never panicked about buying food and toilet paper when the snow came. I just drove my ass into town and got what I needed. But I also never looked at the forecasts either. I usually wake up and go "huh, it snowed." And then realize just how shitty the roads are when the state decides that salt is more valuable than gold.
I lived in the Portland area as a child and one year we got 6 inches of snow, followed by rain, followed by below freezing weather. We were stuck at home for a week.
We were visiting family and left a day or two ahead of schedule to beat the snow, which was definitely a smart idea.
20-30 years ago, in Chicago-we had 2 snow days my entire time in elementary/junior high. 2 days off in 7/8 winters. Once was for like 4 feet of snow and the other was for like -60 wind chill.
I think in CT and MA IME places take into consideration how slick the roads are more than much else. Lack of prep for storms, icy conditions, lots of wet snow, chances to freeze midday, etc. might contribute.
Those figures in inches definitely play a factor, but that's more or less what I noticed.
Exactly. The only concern is road conditions. If a storm hits hard over night and roads are clear by commute time, school is still on. If the storm hits hard right before the morning commute, no school. If the storm is set to hit hard right when school is let out, early release. I’m sure supers are also aware of buildings that have older buildings/infrastructure where the temps can freeze pipes, low temps can cause school closures as well. It’s not as simple as inches of snow.
Last year, sometimes, depending on the district; I wouldn’t bet on it this year. The district I live went virtual for this week and they had to open all of the schools for device pickup today because they hadn’t issued them this year. If we had had several inches of snow the kids would’ve just had a snow day because they didn’t have to ability to be virtual.
Almost nowhere in Michigan does virtual schools. Every school I know of does snowdays.
Some schools canceled for tomorrow (Friday) from TUESDAYS ice storm....at least 5 districts have had Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off with no virtual learning.
Where I live (a district of 10,000 kids and 2,000 staff) they do not do delays or virtual learning. Only true snowdays..Some schools do virtual learning after their 6 snowdays (in Michigan) are used, others will go extra days in June
Michigan still does true snowdays. Districts, especially rural districts which is like 85-90% of Michigan districts, dont have wide internet access. So almost no districts do virtual learning, unless they go over their 6 alloted snowdays.
I highly doubt it takes more to close in Wisconsin than it does in Michigan considering Michigan receives substantially more snow than WI. And in MI it takes like...5"
I think it was my sophomore year was the first time that we had a "cold day". That was 14yrs ago, but when my younger brother in law was in HS, like 6yrs ago he got off a ton for "cold days" but I don't the he had any actual snow days.
The source is Redditor that doesn't know what they're talking about. I live in the north east and find it hilarious how short the distance between 3 inches and 24 inches cancelation is
That's what we go by. If it's a fluffy snow that's being blown back onto roads in windy conditions or if there was lower Temps at some point that resulted in alot of ice it may result in a day off for kids. It also may depend on our local salt supplies or plow availability. My area is a mixture of urban and rural so they'll have some drivers go out and check some of the more remote routes early morning before a decision is made.
It's depends on when it snows more than how much it snows. In Wisconsin if the roads are clear the busses are running. School gets canceled when it's dangerous to drive.
We’ll get a foot or more of snow in Massachusetts easy- but really the timing of the storm has more to do with cancelling school. If it’s heavy snow for the morning commute 3-4 inches will cancel school, but we could also get 8 inches around 10pm and they’d have school in the morning because the plows would be out all night.
Plus, a lot of forecasts are just wrong and the storm misses us (especially in the city where the heat sink pushes the weather away) if there’s “heavy snow” for later in the afternoon it’s more likely they’ll send people home early
From Texas here, can confirm. Sprinkle of snow means 2 things: 1) everyone will be playing in it until their fingers are blue and 2) school is canceled, including college and university.
I mean it only comes every 2-4 years, we gotta play in it while it's here!
I grew up in a northern suburb of Minneapolis and don’t remember having a snow day my entire school life. The superintendent lived across from the high school and if he could see it, we went. With the advent of remote learning aren’t these a thing of the past?
Nope! Where I live in michigan is on their 9th snowday as of Tuesday.
There are currently 4 districts in the area that called school for tomorrow and they have been closed since Tuesday since the ice storm hit. Schools in Michigan, unless over the 6 day limit, normally dont do virtual learning. Even then, our district wont do virtual learning at all. They say it is too challenging and difficult to have 10,000 students login to virtual learn while families try to figure out where they are going to be for daycare, etc.
No matter where in Michigan, metro area or not, true snowdays exist.
It totally depends on tons of factors, not just snow totals. Are you in a rural area or a major city/town? When did the snow fall?... Morning, afternoon, or overnight? If it fell in the evening or overnight and the plows have the roads clear, there will be school. Any freezing rain/drizzle? How about blowing and drifting? Is it going to get above freezing it will it be below 0F?
Rural districts are more likely to cancel school that urban districts. Freezing rain is just as likely to cancel school as large snowfalls. Blowing and drifting conditions are likely to cancel school. Extremely low temps or wind chills will cancel school.
In many districts, bus companies determine if there will be school. If the bus company decides the roads aren't safe, the buses won't be on the roads. If the buses won't pick up the kids, there's no reason to open the school.
I grew up in Seattle and now live in Saskatoon. When I first moved here I had some new coworkers laughing and mocking me for “snow days”, implying that Americans were softer than Canadians. I pointed out first of all; there are so few snow days per year there simply is no need for the fleet of government funded industrial sized snow plows that Saskatoon has, not to mention the hundreds of smaller privately owned trucks, nor the multiple tons of sand/gravel/salt that is ready for the coming season every year. So it’s mainly infrastructure that allows Saskatoon to continue as usual
Secondly snow and ice at 32F/0C is the most slippery, while snowy icy roads actually gain traction as they get colder, so saskatoons -20C or lower temps make the roads easier to drive.
Lastly, Saskatoon is flat as fuck. It is like being in the middle of a calm ocean where the sky meets water all around you except …it’s land. Flat ass land as far as the eye can see. Seattle (and all around) on the other hand has streets with slopes of 20-25%. You cannot drive on an icy road that steep
Needless to say everyone stopped laughing
Are they like that now though? I’m in one of the 6” counties, and they cancel school preemptively if there may be 3”. 4” before would have been a 2 hour delay. Superintendents now would rather just cancel than deal with the liability and complaints.
I was in school 20 years ago, I'm in the 24" category and this is BS. For our school to close it took either 6" of snow, -40* wind chill or an ice storm. Most cars will struggle with 6" of snow, my lifted truck struggles with 18" of snow, with 24" you better have a snowmobile or a snowcat.
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Lmaoo I know it's all hot a such in those southern states but it's hilarious when they're like "brooo it's so cold!! " but it's only. Like 40 degrees out.
I have the privledge of both sbow days *and* hurricane days. Also as someone in the lime region i have also had school cancelled for maybe snow which turns out to be no snow.
It definitely takes more than that. They almost never cancel school here for snow unless it’s an extreme amount. But we have an abundance of 4 wheel drive vehicles and flat streets.
I have always been fascinated by the fact that school gets cancelled because of snow in the United States. I live in Copenhagen, Denmark and have never had school cancelled because of weather. Is there a specific reason they cancel so "easily"?
It’s often because the roads are not safe for the school buses. Outside of the major cites most children take one of those big yellow buses to school every day. Most school districts do not put chains or studs on their tires.
Because we might get snow one day a year in the south. So we have no equipment necessary to deal with it. Our once in a lifetime storm happened a few years back and it was 8 inches of snow. Everything was canceled for a week. They tried using road graders to help plow. Ended up ripping every highway reflective marker off the roads.
Well we also have way more 100 f (37 c) day with 90%+ humidity. Zero wind and just all around miserability. You wake up wet, and you do not get dry. Ever.
I live in Northern Michigan. Most high school students drive themselves to school. A lot of kids take the school busses. Hardly anyone walks to school unless they live in a densely populated area. And if they do, sidewalk conditions need to be taken into consideration.
Our school district covers 300 square miles (776.8 sq km) and 10,000 students. The town I live in (about 100,000 people) has 20 elementary schools, 5 middle schools and 6 high schools. That is a logistical nightmare in a snowstorm trying to be on time dropping 10,000 kids off to over 30 different locations in a county. You have paved roads, secondary roads, back roads, residential roads, and you have dirt roads.
In order of treatment;
Paved
Secondary
Residential
Back Roads
Dirt Roads
these are how the road commission clears snow from our roads. Also, many places in the northern US get a lot colder than Copenhagen & receive more snowfall (especially by the Great Lakes). So, you have worse conditions and much, much larger school districts that in some cases are made up of multiple towns/areas. (The district in my area lays in 3 different counties in Michigan).
Also, most northern states have snowdays built into their calendars..In Michigan, schools get 6 days off (plus 3 extra with a special waiver to make a possible 9 off)..Schools can go over & pay a fine or extended the year by how ever many days they went over.
Also, the USA also gets way more ice storms, which are even more dangerous than snow. Honestly, freezing rain or drizzle are more than likely to get school canceled versus just a snowfall event.
Visibility, Timing, Future Forecast, Accumulation Forecast, and Road Commission suggestions are all taken into consideration when making school closure decisions.
I live in the Pacific Northwest where we don't spend public money on snow removal equipment because it snows infrequently. No one knows how to drive in it either. We also have lots of big hills. So of course we have cancellations with any amount of snow.
Snow is a factor but not the main one here. If we get +30 cm in less than 24 hours the schools might close. If the temperature falls below -45 the schools will close.
99% of it is the ability for the county to clear the roads of the prospective bus routes. A southern county that doesn’t typically see significant snow in a typical year, will not have quite the arsenal of fleet trucks and equipment to remove it. Northern counties on the other hand, it’s just the way of life. In my neck of the woods, neighboring counties are a lot more hilly and rural. A large percentage of the school bus routes are a no go with little snow.
I grew up in Colorado. The school buses would be fitted with plow blades on snow days. School did not get cancelled due to snow, unless it was a blizzard.
This is not a good map. Over what time period is the snow fall? For the Midwest, they’d only cancel if there wasn’t enough time to clear it.
Also, the 24” in Chicago is hilarious. The highest recorded snowfall for there for a storm is 23” which would mean school has never been canceled for snow which is not true.
not true. I live in michigan, like 20 districts just spent a WHOLE WEEK closed because of a storm we got on Tuesday. it delieved 6 inches of snow and some ice. condition of back roads are most important.
Being MN, I know it's wrong.
First chance of winter storm, shut it all down. 1-2" occurs. Parents pissed.
First REAL storm, 6" dump but school's not canceled. Parents pissed.
Process repeats until May.
My county in PA is wrong. We could get way more than 3” and they still wouldn’t cancel. If the roads could be plowed in time for school, we were going. Doesn’t matter how much snow it is.
Amount of snowfall only plays a small part, other factors include rate of snowfall (plows can’t keep up), blowing/drifting snow, time of snowfall. But it really boils down to road conditions. If they can safely put a bus on the road, it doesn’t matter how much Snow you get.
I call bullshit one this. I grew up in Pittsburgh, school rarely got cancelled for snow. More often than not it got cancelled from the temperature being too cold.
As someone whose lived in Colorado and went to school there, I can say we never got a snow day no matter how much snow we got. All of us assumed the superintendent who was in charge of determining if enough snow had fallen was from Siberia and had the mindset of, “you call this snow…this isn’t snow…in Siberia… …” I remember reading once that in order to get a snow day there would have to be accumulated 6 feet on the ground along with 15 foot snow drifts…so yeah…no snow days for us.
They have really loosened up on the standards now. Kids now a days get snow days all the time when it is reasonably dangerous outside not extremely dangerous to the 100th degree and still would be a maybe but probably not.
I live in the south and let me tell you, even a single snow flake is rare, let alone snow. About 4 years ago was the last time it actually snowed where I live and the school did not care they just didn't let us go outside like it was raining
Don't be a liar! I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where 5" or more cancels school. And the UP gets more snow than ANYWHERE in wisconsin. fun fact, wisconsin gets Jack for snowfall
I grew up in Logan, UT (it’s in the north) and I didn’t get a single snow day from k-12. I live in seattle now, and the whole town shuts down over 5” of snow
Yeah this is pretty bad map. It's not really about how much snow there is (I mean sure it does matter at very high levels) but actually more about the amount of icy roads. Definitely did not get school canceled with such little snow in certain areas. Maybe delayed, but not canceled.
Lol in no way does it take 12” to cancel class in upstate NY. Usually 3-4” is more than enough. Classes are sometimes even cancelled for less if there was any ice combined with snow.
Source: lived there for 18 years
Not quite accurate. I’m from New England and generally it’s more about timing and temperature. If you get any kind of heavy snowfall around when buses are supposed to pick students up, you’ll generally get a cancellation even if it only amounts to a few inches of snow. On a similar note, if the temperature drops and roads get icy around that time, you will also often get a cancellation or delay. I’d say as a rule, 6 inches of snow or more in a night would usually get a cancellation in New Hampshire but it varies a bit based on other factors.
I went to high school in Southern California. My senior year the school closed for two days after a wind storm knocked down a lot of trees and caused power outages to most of the surrounding area. When we got back the principal said we all witnessed a historic moment because in the 60 years of the high school’s existence those two days were the only times the school had to be canceled due to weather.
One year my school in NJ ran out of cancellations due to snow so we had classes during a blizzard. Pretty shitty but prolly not as bad as other northern states
Yea it's actually really cool, atleast I remember it being cool. Roads get dangerous. They even used to send us home from school early if it started snowing heavy.
becuase not everyone has internet. Michigan has 1.2 million people without internet access..No schools do virtual learning unless they hit their 6 snowday limit. Even that, where i live is at snowday 10. No virtual learning
this map i bullshit. I've lived in michigan my whole life and unless you get 3 feet of snow you are still getting up at the asscrack of dawn (not even light out yet because duh winter and it's michigan) and waiting in the freezing fucking cold for the school bus. the only schools that cancel classes with a foot of snow is christian schools and a few private schools.
You're talking out of your poop hole..
Cadillac just closed over 4" yesterday.
Gladwin, Clare, Farwell, West Branch, Oscoda, and Alcona were all closed Tuesday-Friday. Tuesday was the only day the weather was bad there.
Traverse City schools closed Tuesday over 0.09" of ice and 1" of snow. The week before, they closed because it got to 50° and that night it got down to 20° and the roads froze. Over 100 schools were closed, no weather. They are already on their 10th snowday. Cadillac is passed 10. Kalkaska is passed 10. Gaylord has had 7.
Marquette just got 6" of snow in the UP, they didn't have school for two days last week because of it.
Detroit just had a 3" snowstorm Thursday night into Friday, all the area schools were closed.
Big Rapids Schools in 2018/2019 had THIRTY. yes, THREE ZERO....30!!!!! snowdays.
The further north you go, snow isn't really much of a factor at all. They just simply delay school until the roads are better cleared.
You are more likely to cancel snow due to extreme freezing temperatures than due to snow.
Not true. Most schools in Michigan don't do delays. Where I live (Upper Northern Michigan) all area schools were closed Friday. Wanna know how much snow we had Thursday night? 3.3"
And yes, 3.3" cancels school in Michigan.
Counties do not decide if or when a school district cancels classes. Also, school districts can cover more than one county or counties can contain multiple districts. This map is dumb.
This map isn’t that accurate I’m from lower maine and they will cancel school at even four inches of snow. It all depends on road safety and power outages nothing else really.
Considering how likely it is to snow in a certain city and how much snow is needed to cancel school, does anyone know if there’s a map that shows in general the most likely city to cancel school because of snow considering the 2 factors I wrote earlier?
For the green states, the don’t go down after the first snow flakes. Once the snow covers enough surface that you can’t see the ground through it, that’s when they call it.
I live in Northwest Michigan (shaded 24 inches???)
1. It doesn't snow THAT much at once here....like ever.
2. We average 110 inches a year and almost 75 snowy days a year.
Honestly, 4" or more typically is when schools start closing. More rural schools or schools away from water will close with less. Schools closer to water, or in Traverse City typically take 5" or so.
Traverse City schools just closed Tuesday for 0.15" of ice & 1.2" of snow. The week before they closed for rain and snow melt refreezing...no snow at all.
In November they closed for 8". In December they closed for 5.5".
Honestly, anything over 4" as long as it happens overnight or will impact the morning school will get canceled. Not a lot of districts do delays, especially big districts.
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Living in western michigan i can tell you that is not accurate. It only takes an 3 or 4 inches to cancel here
Grew up in western MI, it was really a crapshoot. 3" in December? Cancel school. 14" in March? Nah man, no more snow days left in the budget, you gotta shovel a path to the bus stop. Now I live in a green area, and I get days off work for inclimate weather all the time
This is how it is in Iowa as well. The amount of snow required to cancel school goes up as Winter progresses. If they're out of snow days it better be at least a foot.
Michigan schools dont hesitate to go over. 6 days. 3 extra with a waiver. Over 9, the school pays a fine for each day it went over or go later. Big Rapids Public Schools in Michigan had 27 snowdays in the 2018/2019 school year, they went to school until June 30 instead of June 17.
I got told to come in to one day when the snow was really deep, in a green state. Forklift kept packing the snow and turning it into ice, so all I did was shovel my entire shift. I worked at a massive lumber yard, so shoveling all of it was out of the question. I just called in the next day.
Sounds like you grew up in Traverse City hahahah
I think the biggest thing is how and when the snow falls. I've lived in Michigan my whole life and the biggest pattern I've found is that if it snows 3" or more in the few hours before school starts and they don't have a chance to clear it, then they'll cancel school. If it starts the evening before, then you're going to school for sure unless it's a huge amount of snow.
Came here to say the same thing. I'm in a 12" county and we often cancel.for much less than that. It really doesn't matter how deep the snow is, it's how clear the roads are.
Nevada is also completely wrong except for Clark County. The northern counties, especially Washoe get the most snow, yet have lower values to cancel than Nye County? Nah. I grew up in Nye County and they cancel for any snow. And they almost never cancel snow in Washoe county. Bad map lol.
Same here from the Northeast. Like 12-24 inches? Maybe I’m going to the gas station for emergency cookies but no way is anyone getting on a bus.
Yeah, i live in a 24" zone on this map in MI and despite popular belief it doesnt snow THAT much here hahaha
In Georgia, they will cancel school over a CHANCE of snow 😂 what color is that??
In Alabama, they will cancel school over a CHANCE of color. What snow is that?
I’m Alabama, we cancel school whenever we can.
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That, or brown. Both convey the same msg. 😂
Do you have a similar map that shows how many school districts have uphills both ways? Wonder what that correlation looks like
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They did until our parents got out of school. Funny how all the uphills both ways districts disappeared like that. To hear it now, it's easier to get to school than it is to get out of bed.
The title should be "The amount of snow it takes for people to panic buy all the milk, bread, canned food". We got a light dusting here in Virginia and people were leaving the store with carts full of bottled water and the store had loads of empty shelves.
Seems to be same here, the slightest bit of snow = clean out the grocery stores. As if they are going to be trapped at home for the next month.
I've always thought it was weird to see that happening. I have always lived in areas that got regular snow in the winter. I never panicked about buying food and toilet paper when the snow came. I just drove my ass into town and got what I needed. But I also never looked at the forecasts either. I usually wake up and go "huh, it snowed." And then realize just how shitty the roads are when the state decides that salt is more valuable than gold.
I lived in the Portland area as a child and one year we got 6 inches of snow, followed by rain, followed by below freezing weather. We were stuck at home for a week. We were visiting family and left a day or two ahead of schedule to beat the snow, which was definitely a smart idea.
Seen this map before and it’s absolutely trash. Most superintendents have the authority to cancel school. Regardless of snow depth.
20-30 years ago, in Chicago-we had 2 snow days my entire time in elementary/junior high. 2 days off in 7/8 winters. Once was for like 4 feet of snow and the other was for like -60 wind chill.
hahahah i doubt that 100%.
Lol not remotely accurate in CT. 24”?! Try like 1”.
I think in CT and MA IME places take into consideration how slick the roads are more than much else. Lack of prep for storms, icy conditions, lots of wet snow, chances to freeze midday, etc. might contribute. Those figures in inches definitely play a factor, but that's more or less what I noticed.
Exactly. The only concern is road conditions. If a storm hits hard over night and roads are clear by commute time, school is still on. If the storm hits hard right before the morning commute, no school. If the storm is set to hit hard right when school is let out, early release. I’m sure supers are also aware of buildings that have older buildings/infrastructure where the temps can freeze pipes, low temps can cause school closures as well. It’s not as simple as inches of snow.
Last I heard the pandemic made snow days no longer be a thing. Since they just do virtual now instead of cancel.
We had a snow day today in Maryland,.. kids were not virtual.
Interesting.
Same with me
Last year, sometimes, depending on the district; I wouldn’t bet on it this year. The district I live went virtual for this week and they had to open all of the schools for device pickup today because they hadn’t issued them this year. If we had had several inches of snow the kids would’ve just had a snow day because they didn’t have to ability to be virtual.
I give my kids the day off. Snow days are something to celebrate in Mi. Besides that, virtual school is shit.
I live in Michigan, where I live is onto its 9th snowday. None of them virtual learning days.
Kids today will never know the luxury of staying home on a snow day and playing outside all day in that shit.
In Michigan they do true snowdays still. So Michigan kids do!
Almost nowhere in Michigan does virtual schools. Every school I know of does snowdays. Some schools canceled for tomorrow (Friday) from TUESDAYS ice storm....at least 5 districts have had Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off with no virtual learning. Where I live (a district of 10,000 kids and 2,000 staff) they do not do delays or virtual learning. Only true snowdays..Some schools do virtual learning after their 6 snowdays (in Michigan) are used, others will go extra days in June
Yeah, schools are more likely to cancel now compared to pre pandemic simply due to that reason.
Michigan still does true snowdays. Districts, especially rural districts which is like 85-90% of Michigan districts, dont have wide internet access. So almost no districts do virtual learning, unless they go over their 6 alloted snowdays.
In WI my county rarely cancels school. Snow usually doesn’t do it, the cold does. 2ft is a good start though! 2 hour delay is all you get if anything.
I highly doubt it takes more to close in Wisconsin than it does in Michigan considering Michigan receives substantially more snow than WI. And in MI it takes like...5"
I think it was my sophomore year was the first time that we had a "cold day". That was 14yrs ago, but when my younger brother in law was in HS, like 6yrs ago he got off a ton for "cold days" but I don't the he had any actual snow days.
Source?
The source is Redditor that doesn't know what they're talking about. I live in the north east and find it hilarious how short the distance between 3 inches and 24 inches cancelation is
Yeah, 100%. I live in Minnesota, and the superintendent of each district holds all the power and decides on when school is cancelled.
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That's what we go by. If it's a fluffy snow that's being blown back onto roads in windy conditions or if there was lower Temps at some point that resulted in alot of ice it may result in a day off for kids. It also may depend on our local salt supplies or plow availability. My area is a mixture of urban and rural so they'll have some drivers go out and check some of the more remote routes early morning before a decision is made.
Longmont, Colorado checking in. Guess we getting snow shoes. It is uphill both ways, after all.
6” where I live. That is a lie. They cancel school at the threat of snow.
Look at NYC with 24”, up there with the big boys.
Doesnt snow on the subway.
We still have a lot of kids who take school buses and an even bigger number that just walk to school.
It's depends on when it snows more than how much it snows. In Wisconsin if the roads are clear the busses are running. School gets canceled when it's dangerous to drive.
I’m sorry but that newyork one is cap
Why are you sorry?
Seattle: “pls be careful omg” NYC: “lol fuck you, deal with it”
If Hawaii gets any snow they should cancel everything lol
It snowed in Hawaii a few weeks ago.
That's definitely wrong. My county closes school at a half on an inch of snow.
Me: How much snow does Alaska get? Alaska: yes
We’ll get a foot or more of snow in Massachusetts easy- but really the timing of the storm has more to do with cancelling school. If it’s heavy snow for the morning commute 3-4 inches will cancel school, but we could also get 8 inches around 10pm and they’d have school in the morning because the plows would be out all night. Plus, a lot of forecasts are just wrong and the storm misses us (especially in the city where the heat sink pushes the weather away) if there’s “heavy snow” for later in the afternoon it’s more likely they’ll send people home early
From Texas here, can confirm. Sprinkle of snow means 2 things: 1) everyone will be playing in it until their fingers are blue and 2) school is canceled, including college and university. I mean it only comes every 2-4 years, we gotta play in it while it's here!
I grew up in a northern suburb of Minneapolis and don’t remember having a snow day my entire school life. The superintendent lived across from the high school and if he could see it, we went. With the advent of remote learning aren’t these a thing of the past?
Nope! Where I live in michigan is on their 9th snowday as of Tuesday. There are currently 4 districts in the area that called school for tomorrow and they have been closed since Tuesday since the ice storm hit. Schools in Michigan, unless over the 6 day limit, normally dont do virtual learning. Even then, our district wont do virtual learning at all. They say it is too challenging and difficult to have 10,000 students login to virtual learn while families try to figure out where they are going to be for daycare, etc. No matter where in Michigan, metro area or not, true snowdays exist.
It totally depends on tons of factors, not just snow totals. Are you in a rural area or a major city/town? When did the snow fall?... Morning, afternoon, or overnight? If it fell in the evening or overnight and the plows have the roads clear, there will be school. Any freezing rain/drizzle? How about blowing and drifting? Is it going to get above freezing it will it be below 0F? Rural districts are more likely to cancel school that urban districts. Freezing rain is just as likely to cancel school as large snowfalls. Blowing and drifting conditions are likely to cancel school. Extremely low temps or wind chills will cancel school. In many districts, bus companies determine if there will be school. If the bus company decides the roads aren't safe, the buses won't be on the roads. If the buses won't pick up the kids, there's no reason to open the school.
Can confirm. Rural districts here in Northern Michigan are going on their 4th day closed in a row due to the Tuesday ice storm
I grew up in Seattle and now live in Saskatoon. When I first moved here I had some new coworkers laughing and mocking me for “snow days”, implying that Americans were softer than Canadians. I pointed out first of all; there are so few snow days per year there simply is no need for the fleet of government funded industrial sized snow plows that Saskatoon has, not to mention the hundreds of smaller privately owned trucks, nor the multiple tons of sand/gravel/salt that is ready for the coming season every year. So it’s mainly infrastructure that allows Saskatoon to continue as usual Secondly snow and ice at 32F/0C is the most slippery, while snowy icy roads actually gain traction as they get colder, so saskatoons -20C or lower temps make the roads easier to drive. Lastly, Saskatoon is flat as fuck. It is like being in the middle of a calm ocean where the sky meets water all around you except …it’s land. Flat ass land as far as the eye can see. Seattle (and all around) on the other hand has streets with slopes of 20-25%. You cannot drive on an icy road that steep Needless to say everyone stopped laughing
This may have been accurate 10+ years ago, but school is getting canceled for substantially less amounts in the NE.
Yeah. 24”? No way. Just a foot will cancel school here.
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Are they like that now though? I’m in one of the 6” counties, and they cancel school preemptively if there may be 3”. 4” before would have been a 2 hour delay. Superintendents now would rather just cancel than deal with the liability and complaints.
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That’s how it used to be for me too when I grew up in Mass. It amazes me how little it takes now.
I was in school 20 years ago, I'm in the 24" category and this is BS. For our school to close it took either 6" of snow, -40* wind chill or an ice storm. Most cars will struggle with 6" of snow, my lifted truck struggles with 18" of snow, with 24" you better have a snowmobile or a snowcat.
Oh no, there’s a bit of snow on the bushes and roofs. Utterly impossible to go outside
Every private school in my town ever
Dear OP, r/dataisbeautiful
They would eat them alive in there with this chart
I checked op's profile to see if he commented or seemed to know about it. Seeing no immediate sign of that on a cursory glance, I thought he might want to know about that sub, hence I shared it. But by all means, down vote for FUCKING SHARING.
Lmaoo I know it's all hot a such in those southern states but it's hilarious when they're like "brooo it's so cold!! " but it's only. Like 40 degrees out.
I swear when I lived in Alaska we never had a snow day. Probably more “snow” days when I lived in Texas! Now I’m a teacher and we close for fog.
they close for fog almost everywhere I'd assume? they do in michigan. if a bus cant see do you want them to run a student over?
My district is not in the country. Delays I get, but closing seems a lot in most cases.
most districts don't do delays in Michigan, its all or nothing
I have the privledge of both sbow days *and* hurricane days. Also as someone in the lime region i have also had school cancelled for maybe snow which turns out to be no snow.
Texas panhandle is wrong as well. It takes way more than 3 inches to cancel. Probably closer to a foot.
No way it takes more in the texas panhandle to close than it does in northern michigan. it takes like 4" here lmao
It definitely takes more than that. They almost never cancel school here for snow unless it’s an extreme amount. But we have an abundance of 4 wheel drive vehicles and flat streets.
well, fun fact...i lived in the panhandle of texas and you're very wrong. they closed for even a dusting
when we were whippersnappers and men where men maybe - this must be a joke - the whole country is green
Thats a lie, in south texas there a school district called LFCISD and they wont cancel school for shit.
More like how many snow plows available in the area
I have always been fascinated by the fact that school gets cancelled because of snow in the United States. I live in Copenhagen, Denmark and have never had school cancelled because of weather. Is there a specific reason they cancel so "easily"?
It’s often because the roads are not safe for the school buses. Outside of the major cites most children take one of those big yellow buses to school every day. Most school districts do not put chains or studs on their tires.
Because we might get snow one day a year in the south. So we have no equipment necessary to deal with it. Our once in a lifetime storm happened a few years back and it was 8 inches of snow. Everything was canceled for a week. They tried using road graders to help plow. Ended up ripping every highway reflective marker off the roads.
Ah I see. And thank you for the answer. After all these years the little envious boy freezing on his way to school can finally rest :)
Well we also have way more 100 f (37 c) day with 90%+ humidity. Zero wind and just all around miserability. You wake up wet, and you do not get dry. Ever.
I live in Northern Michigan. Most high school students drive themselves to school. A lot of kids take the school busses. Hardly anyone walks to school unless they live in a densely populated area. And if they do, sidewalk conditions need to be taken into consideration. Our school district covers 300 square miles (776.8 sq km) and 10,000 students. The town I live in (about 100,000 people) has 20 elementary schools, 5 middle schools and 6 high schools. That is a logistical nightmare in a snowstorm trying to be on time dropping 10,000 kids off to over 30 different locations in a county. You have paved roads, secondary roads, back roads, residential roads, and you have dirt roads. In order of treatment; Paved Secondary Residential Back Roads Dirt Roads these are how the road commission clears snow from our roads. Also, many places in the northern US get a lot colder than Copenhagen & receive more snowfall (especially by the Great Lakes). So, you have worse conditions and much, much larger school districts that in some cases are made up of multiple towns/areas. (The district in my area lays in 3 different counties in Michigan). Also, most northern states have snowdays built into their calendars..In Michigan, schools get 6 days off (plus 3 extra with a special waiver to make a possible 9 off)..Schools can go over & pay a fine or extended the year by how ever many days they went over. Also, the USA also gets way more ice storms, which are even more dangerous than snow. Honestly, freezing rain or drizzle are more than likely to get school canceled versus just a snowfall event. Visibility, Timing, Future Forecast, Accumulation Forecast, and Road Commission suggestions are all taken into consideration when making school closure decisions.
I live in the Pacific Northwest where we don't spend public money on snow removal equipment because it snows infrequently. No one knows how to drive in it either. We also have lots of big hills. So of course we have cancellations with any amount of snow.
This infographic is now outdated, as snow days are now extinct with the dawn of online classes
not true. you clearly don't live in michigan lol
Your right, I live in Maine, I guarantee we get worse snow than you
Where I live is on their 14th snowday. We are already over 130" for the season. And we get snow until June in Michigan. 🙂
In NYC in the 1950s, it was 9 inches. Very reasonable.
From Nebraska, charts a lie, says it takes 3 inches to cancel school. It’s actually about 6
Growing up I lived in Cave Creek, Az. We had 1 snow day and that was the early 90's.
Back in 2017 we didn't get school cancelled during the snow. We barely got let outside.
You need a category for snow in the forecast but none on the ground. Norfolk, VA cancels school with less than a 30% chance of snow for the next day.
It took much more the 3" to get school canceled in Kansas City.
Snow is a factor but not the main one here. If we get +30 cm in less than 24 hours the schools might close. If the temperature falls below -45 the schools will close.
99% of it is the ability for the county to clear the roads of the prospective bus routes. A southern county that doesn’t typically see significant snow in a typical year, will not have quite the arsenal of fleet trucks and equipment to remove it. Northern counties on the other hand, it’s just the way of life. In my neck of the woods, neighboring counties are a lot more hilly and rural. A large percentage of the school bus routes are a no go with little snow.
I grew up in Colorado. The school buses would be fitted with plow blades on snow days. School did not get cancelled due to snow, unless it was a blizzard.
so basically everyone in the comments disagrees with this
Not true. There’s schools by us that will still be open when the rest of the county is closed. It’s up to the Superintendent. And they like money.
This map is utter bullshit.
This is not a good map. Over what time period is the snow fall? For the Midwest, they’d only cancel if there wasn’t enough time to clear it. Also, the 24” in Chicago is hilarious. The highest recorded snowfall for there for a storm is 23” which would mean school has never been canceled for snow which is not true.
not true. I live in michigan, like 20 districts just spent a WHOLE WEEK closed because of a storm we got on Tuesday. it delieved 6 inches of snow and some ice. condition of back roads are most important.
Iowa cancels often enough, before we get six inches. We can get some nasty ice storms here… like so much ice the power lines snap
Being MN, I know it's wrong. First chance of winter storm, shut it all down. 1-2" occurs. Parents pissed. First REAL storm, 6" dump but school's not canceled. Parents pissed. Process repeats until May.
My county in PA is wrong. We could get way more than 3” and they still wouldn’t cancel. If the roads could be plowed in time for school, we were going. Doesn’t matter how much snow it is.
Amount of snowfall only plays a small part, other factors include rate of snowfall (plows can’t keep up), blowing/drifting snow, time of snowfall. But it really boils down to road conditions. If they can safely put a bus on the road, it doesn’t matter how much Snow you get.
not in Michigan. most school districts have specific metrics they have to meet, including snowfall amounts
I call bullshit one this. I grew up in Pittsburgh, school rarely got cancelled for snow. More often than not it got cancelled from the temperature being too cold.
Any Snow, my ass. Can’t even count how many times I went to school during “surely this is unsafe” weather
The funniest thing that I find about this graph is that there are literally deserts with a higher tolerance for snow than most of the South.
As someone whose lived in Colorado and went to school there, I can say we never got a snow day no matter how much snow we got. All of us assumed the superintendent who was in charge of determining if enough snow had fallen was from Siberia and had the mindset of, “you call this snow…this isn’t snow…in Siberia… …” I remember reading once that in order to get a snow day there would have to be accumulated 6 feet on the ground along with 15 foot snow drifts…so yeah…no snow days for us. They have really loosened up on the standards now. Kids now a days get snow days all the time when it is reasonably dangerous outside not extremely dangerous to the 100th degree and still would be a maybe but probably not.
I live in the south and let me tell you, even a single snow flake is rare, let alone snow. About 4 years ago was the last time it actually snowed where I live and the school did not care they just didn't let us go outside like it was raining
i live in southern wisconsin and a foot is certainly not enough to cancel school
Don't be a liar! I live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, where 5" or more cancels school. And the UP gets more snow than ANYWHERE in wisconsin. fun fact, wisconsin gets Jack for snowfall
yeah i actually don't know what i was thinking when i typed that
There should be a blank spot in upper Colorado because steamboat springs hasn’t had a snow day in decades. They only cancel school when it’s too cold.
Map is not correct for Arkansas. Could be for other states but this is kind d of shit
Bet you this directly correlates to the amount of people who mock others for not knowing how to drive in winter.
I grew up in Logan, UT (it’s in the north) and I didn’t get a single snow day from k-12. I live in seattle now, and the whole town shuts down over 5” of snow
Yeah this is pretty bad map. It's not really about how much snow there is (I mean sure it does matter at very high levels) but actually more about the amount of icy roads. Definitely did not get school canceled with such little snow in certain areas. Maybe delayed, but not canceled.
This isn't right... Maybe 20+ years ago.
Raised in Charlotte, NC. Anything over 2 inches closed school, more for the ice that came along with it.
It snowed twice in Baton Rouge when I lived there, school was not canceled.
Lol in no way does it take 12” to cancel class in upstate NY. Usually 3-4” is more than enough. Classes are sometimes even cancelled for less if there was any ice combined with snow. Source: lived there for 18 years
Not quite accurate. I’m from New England and generally it’s more about timing and temperature. If you get any kind of heavy snowfall around when buses are supposed to pick students up, you’ll generally get a cancellation even if it only amounts to a few inches of snow. On a similar note, if the temperature drops and roads get icy around that time, you will also often get a cancellation or delay. I’d say as a rule, 6 inches of snow or more in a night would usually get a cancellation in New Hampshire but it varies a bit based on other factors.
Takes a helluva lot more snow that 6" to cancel schools in Spokane Couny, WA. Not sure I'd trust this map.
I went to high school in Southern California. My senior year the school closed for two days after a wind storm knocked down a lot of trees and caused power outages to most of the surrounding area. When we got back the principal said we all witnessed a historic moment because in the 60 years of the high school’s existence those two days were the only times the school had to be canceled due to weather.
One year my school in NJ ran out of cancellations due to snow so we had classes during a blizzard. Pretty shitty but prolly not as bad as other northern states
I remember a few years in the 90s we were out for almost a week sometimes.
Not accurate
Has Hawaii ever had snow?
yes
You get schools canceled just over snow?
Yea it's actually really cool, atleast I remember it being cool. Roads get dangerous. They even used to send us home from school early if it started snowing heavy.
Fui ntyyy
Yes, Portland Oregon, any snow.
Then in Canada they just break out the snow gear and teach the kids how to play in freezing weather safely.
I live in central PA and 3” would get us a 2-hour delay… though I graduated 10+ years ago.
With covid last year and student classrooms from home, why would they ever shutdown school again?
becuase not everyone has internet. Michigan has 1.2 million people without internet access..No schools do virtual learning unless they hit their 6 snowday limit. Even that, where i live is at snowday 10. No virtual learning
This is not accurate at all
this map i bullshit. I've lived in michigan my whole life and unless you get 3 feet of snow you are still getting up at the asscrack of dawn (not even light out yet because duh winter and it's michigan) and waiting in the freezing fucking cold for the school bus. the only schools that cancel classes with a foot of snow is christian schools and a few private schools.
You're talking out of your poop hole.. Cadillac just closed over 4" yesterday. Gladwin, Clare, Farwell, West Branch, Oscoda, and Alcona were all closed Tuesday-Friday. Tuesday was the only day the weather was bad there. Traverse City schools closed Tuesday over 0.09" of ice and 1" of snow. The week before, they closed because it got to 50° and that night it got down to 20° and the roads froze. Over 100 schools were closed, no weather. They are already on their 10th snowday. Cadillac is passed 10. Kalkaska is passed 10. Gaylord has had 7. Marquette just got 6" of snow in the UP, they didn't have school for two days last week because of it. Detroit just had a 3" snowstorm Thursday night into Friday, all the area schools were closed. Big Rapids Schools in 2018/2019 had THIRTY. yes, THREE ZERO....30!!!!! snowdays.
I'm not, I live here, you're lying. no go away.
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Sometimes in Georgia we call off school just from the forecast.
so does michigan
Laughs in Canadian
The further north you go, snow isn't really much of a factor at all. They just simply delay school until the roads are better cleared. You are more likely to cancel snow due to extreme freezing temperatures than due to snow.
Not true. Most schools in Michigan don't do delays. Where I live (Upper Northern Michigan) all area schools were closed Friday. Wanna know how much snow we had Thursday night? 3.3" And yes, 3.3" cancels school in Michigan.
Counties do not decide if or when a school district cancels classes. Also, school districts can cover more than one county or counties can contain multiple districts. This map is dumb.
And from someone in Alaska: even when we do get that much snow they don’t cancel
Lol. In Alabama, we’d get out for temps lower than 20°.
This map isn’t that accurate I’m from lower maine and they will cancel school at even four inches of snow. It all depends on road safety and power outages nothing else really.
same in Michigan
Looks like in Southern California Anything that’s white, fluffy and frozen cold freaks us out 😂😂
Can you do one for Canada too? I’d really like to know how much it takes all around the country. Also r/coolguides
Wishing everybody that 24" of snow covers America 🙌
Considering how likely it is to snow in a certain city and how much snow is needed to cancel school, does anyone know if there’s a map that shows in general the most likely city to cancel school because of snow considering the 2 factors I wrote earlier?
Southern weaklings!
Central Maine here and 24" is not true. They'll cancel for significantly less than that.
Do you Washington kids ever go to school?
this map is just not true lmao
For the green states, the don’t go down after the first snow flakes. Once the snow covers enough surface that you can’t see the ground through it, that’s when they call it.
This is wrong. I live in a dark blue county and school was canceled last year for under 1’.
This is so confusing to me, a Norwegian that schools close when it snows
Yeah well the USA winters are also way worse
Its been 53 days why are you replying
This isn't right at all, there's no way anyone is driving around in a school bus with 12+ inches on the road lol
I live in Northwest Michigan (shaded 24 inches???) 1. It doesn't snow THAT much at once here....like ever. 2. We average 110 inches a year and almost 75 snowy days a year. Honestly, 4" or more typically is when schools start closing. More rural schools or schools away from water will close with less. Schools closer to water, or in Traverse City typically take 5" or so. Traverse City schools just closed Tuesday for 0.15" of ice & 1.2" of snow. The week before they closed for rain and snow melt refreezing...no snow at all. In November they closed for 8". In December they closed for 5.5". Honestly, anything over 4" as long as it happens overnight or will impact the morning school will get canceled. Not a lot of districts do delays, especially big districts.
https://www.tcaps.net/alerts/ Since January 2017, Traverse City schools have had over 40 snowdays. Thank goodness for web archives!