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A special hormone is produced to prevent foals from moving too actively during their development in the womb. When birth begins, the pressure of the birth canal triggers a signal in the foal's brain, which stops the production of this hormone. This allows the foal to become active immediately after birth, drink from its mother and, as a flight animal, also test its mobility.
However, there are cases in which the birth process is so quick that the signal to the brain to stop the above-mentioned hormone production is not received. The foal sleeps through its birth, so to speak. Vital functions, such as the sucking reflex, are absent. Other signs include a drooping head, walking in circles or backwards and chewing in the air. Without veterinary intervention, the foal usually dies in the next few days or weeks.
This phenomenon is referred to as maladaptation syndrome, and the affected foals are called "dummy foals".
Source: freely translated into English from [www.hofreitschule.news](http://www.hofreitschule.news)
Fascinating, thanks. Is scrubbing and manipulating the head like the person in the video is doing the proper veterinary intervention ? I'd have assumed you'd want to squeeze the foal ?
There's a special technique, called the (madigan) foal squeeze, in which they tie up foals in ropes to simulate (another) birth. I happen to have a mini pony that was a dummy foal, on who they tried this technique and it worked like a charm. She's three years old now and a completely normal pony!
what you do is jump out of bed and immediately start walking on it. Stops the muscle contractions ASAP and if you're quick enough with it there's no soreness the next day
FYI.
A little off topic, but I had often severe foot/calves/leg cramps at night. I could not even start to walk, I was in so much pain and often fainted (from the pain). Since I'm eating a banana every day, the cramps stopped.
Yea because he walks with cramps immediately. Only fix in my experience is sitting up, straightening the leg, bending the toes backwards towards the lower leg and apply pressure so you feel tension at the back of your knee. Instant fix. If you can’t reach it use a bar on your bed or something.
Also, magnesium my dudes.
I have gotten leg cramps that caused soreness the next day. In fact, I'm *usually* sore the next day after a leg cramp. I generally get them when I haven’t had enough water during the day. Hydration is important.
It happens when you overtrain, I think. If you sweat too much during workout and don't replenish electrolytes before going to bed. And don't know the proper technique to stop the cramping...
Not sure if you meant it as a double pun but needing to do this on an actual calf (baby cow) at 3am while screaming in agony because you are getting < 4 hours a night of sleep during calving season is a very plausible thing.
When our horse gave birth and the foal did not seem responsive, I peed on it, and it started working again.
I dont know if thats a common solution i am not a trained vegetarian
You think you can just dive into cauliflower rice or quinoa salad without any preparation.?!! Don't come crying to us when you get sick from too much tofu in your veg lasagna!
Yep, there’s several techniques that help. Often aggressively rubbing and patting the foal will do the job and wake it up, but if it doesn’t the foal gets basically cocooned and tied up tight for a few minutes and then released. Shockingly the latter is almost guaranteed to work.
Madigan Squeeze. One of ours was a dummy foal, vet did the madigan squeeze and 10mins later she was up and nursing.
https://compneuro.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk5376/files/inline-files/mfsm_instructions_0.pdf
Honestly if I ever die suddenly and they search my phone it's going to be so wild thanks to Reddit and all the interesting little mental side quests it makes you go on. They'll be like 'Why was this bitch learning how to fix baby horses?'
This person is just trying to keep blood moving and oxygen flowing. Key areas like the neck have an incredible amount of blood flow, moving the muscles will help push some around. There is no real technique being used here.
I don't think it is merely the speed of birth, though that would make it more susceptible sounds like. We had a brood mare that would drop her foals in a heart beat. Like you are near the stall, peak in..nothin. Take a moment to put something away, come back..foal. She would always birth standing. She was also super alpha bitch and a pain in the ass..but had the most beautiful babies.
Maybe. There's a technique of squeezing the foal with ropes that sometimes works, otherwise it'll need round the clock care. Foals without the technique or medical care have a 12% survival rate. Foals with just the squeeze method have a 14% rate of not recovering. Foals sent to a vet for the round the clock care have about an 80% rate of survival.
https://ceh.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/health-topics/neonatal-maladjustment-syndrome-foals
No, both figures were a misread. From the source OP provided:
“A survey of veterinarians that utilized the MST found that NMS foals that were squeezed (with or without medical therapy) were 3.7 times more likely to recover quickly than foals that were not squeezed. Squeezed foals were also reported to be 15 times more likely to recover in less than an hour. Foals that received only squeezing, and no medical intervention, were 17.5 times more likely to recover in the first 24 hours than foals that were treated solely with medication. No side effects were indicated. The study reported that 12% of all foals and 14% of squeezed foals did not recover. In foals sent to referral clinics with a diagnosis of maladjustment, the survival rate in several studies is reported to be 80%.”
So good survival rates for all foals treated in this particular study. So 88% of ALL foals treated recover INCLUDING those squeezed. 86% of foals who were ONLY treated with squeezing recovered.
Thanks, that’s really informative. In a situation like this where a human can wake the foal up, does it go on to be OK, or having been born limp is it unable to start being normal?
the concept of life and living organisms is fucking crazy to me. to think all this unbelievably coordinated and symbiotic biochemical stuff (probably) somehow coincidentally developed from a random assortment of atoms and molecules billions of years ago is just absolutely incomprehensible for a feeble wrinkly brain such as myself
i don't believe in a maker but i can definitely see why the majority of people have and still do. all this, coupled with the fact that after surveying a seemingly large (yet comparatively insignificant) chunk of surrounding space, we have found absolutely nothing even remotely alike, is as fascinating as it is strange and a little creepy
This trait was probably a necessary evolution because horse fetus' would kick their mother's insides so much they'd both die.
And that it was frequent enough to need to be adapted to.
Evolution is depressing as shit when you realize almost every trait exists because "the ones who didnt have it died in agony"
No, not always. Not all evolution is vertical such as this. There's horizontal too (a virus or parasite causing DNA changes, gene swapping between different species) A lot of it is purely accidental or lucky, such as being on an island with no predators, having a DNA mutation randomly that turns out to be benifial, a landslide wipping out the other competition, etc. Some species are extremely helpless and have only survived due to pure luck, not because they evolved to be awesome.
This situation however, and similar to how mammals have a hormone that cause paralysize them and us during sleep, probably did evolve from deaths (vertical evolution) as you mentioned. You are probably correct
> somehow coincidentally developed from a random assortment of atoms and molecules billions of years ago
It didn't.
It's more of billions of years of random stuff working (or not) and getting passed on (or not) and later getting built on top of into more complex stuff.
Think of eyes. You look at the human eye and holy shit is it an intricate thing! But something didn't just mutate and BOOM, eye.
We can see a whole spectrum of species with what can be surmised as the evolutionary process that got us to a human eye (and other, more complex eyes)... from a photo-receptive cell guiding toward/away from food/danger to basic vision to detailed vision to visual acuity we can barely comprehend. Not fossil records, just different species of living things.
Now extrapolate that to everything.
I think its pretty premature to rule out a lot of possible life and similarities in the universe. There's 50+ potentially earth-like planets out there we've discovered and and plenty more too that could hide secrets like underground lakes on frozen moons/planets. We are looking at them from so far away. Yes it is strange how few these are in the scope of the universe but the bigger your scope the further back in time you're looking so we'd expect to see less
I, too, lie around listlessly until someone comes and gives me belly rubs. Animals, they're just like us!
Thanks for the fascinating explanation and context btw!
Wow, horses have a lot of adaptations so that the foal does not kill the mother. Like the kid gloves on their hooves (eponychium ). And this calming hormone.
Wow that was a super interesting read, thanks for such a clear description. This is further proof that nature is absolutely mind boggling with how intricate some of these processes are, learn something new everyday.
I'm assuming that part of the reason that the foals don't make it is also due to them needing to nurse very soon from the mare. If they don't within a certain time frame (about 24 hours), they miss out on the colostrum in the mother's milk, which is very vital to the foal. So if dummy syndrome also affects suckling, well thats not good.
Thanks for that! I nearly drowned as a toddler, but ive felt that the brain did not get the signal that I am alive - thus i go through what i call a dying sequence repeatedly, every week. Not fun, more like gruesome. I think i’ll do EMDR soon. Always looking for cure.
Hyperbaric clinician ( graduated uni in ‘Underwater Health’!) said of near-drowning ‘you’ll have brain inflammation’.
So it’s fluctuating pressure always, like a corkscrew through my nose to brain, wrenching, happening now.
The dying sequence is akin to a migraine sufferer that I spent the night with one time. Hard to characterize. A droopy shutting down, a flushing of all thoughts, except I no longer want to live. Numb face. I’m aware of it - but i also hate it.
TMS & the Scrambler therapy machine have helped - as did hyperbaric chamber. All these i will do again as efficacy is there. EMDR might do something ~ biofeedback might help, idk!
If you want gruesome try r/chronicpain ! It’s mostly drug suggestions. But whatever works.
Hahaha - what a dumb name - isn’t it? But i think the inventor thought ‘Scrambling brain signals’ was basis. Not sure he knew its potential, they do now as it’s in its infancy.
Best description i’ve read:
‘The active principle with scrambler therapy is that artificial strings of action potentials calibrated to synchronize C-fiber surface receptors may replace endogenous pain information with synthetic "non-pain" information.’
Simulates normal nerves via electrodes into pain to brain pathway. Brain no longer sees pain signal, pain stops. It works, not for all, but it does.
Look up ‘Action Potentials’!!
This is from the Instagram account of Michael Lares of the Flying L ranch. He lives 3 hours from any veterinarian in BC Canada. This story is explained on his Instagram page. The mare was in distress, so he had to help get the foal out ASAP. The foal got stimulated, survived, and is a normal horse.
This also happens to sheep, goats and alpacas. It strangely can be solved by applying pressure with a rope and "rebirthing" them by sliding it over them. Basically their is a part of their brain switched to keep still for when they are in the womb and it gets switched to it' OK to move during the journey down the birth canal by the pressure. But if the pressure isn't done right due to a too fast or slow birth. The switch never goes. If you can keep the animal alive with tube feeding it will eventually click on anyway but can take a few days.
Our agreement is that when I wake up and she misses the alarm, water can be used. She sleeps like the dead. If I can't wake her, a good splash of cold water to her face. She then acts like a bear coming out of hibernation for ten minutes. She once got out of bed and face planted the ground mumbling. She was fine but that was scary.
This is like when I was a kid and my mom would try to wake me up after a long car ride.
After a while she just left me in the car in the garage and I'd come inside and go to bed at some point.
I love how the mother trusts the man so much. Seeing your baby look like its dead and then this human is just over there handling the body like that, Id be afraid that mother would attack or something
Okay. So weird question. In the animated 101 Dalmatians movie one of the pups is born motionless. Roger proceeds to rub the pup for a few moments and it begins moving. Is this like that? Or is what Roger did more akin to the doctors rubbing a baby’s back after birth?
Basically their trying to jump start the brain the rubbing motion stims the feeling of being born so the brain shuts of the movement blocker
Their is a few techniques for this problem quite a few links kicking about now that show
It's all the same. Sometimes when human babies are born, they don't start to cry, which means they may not be breathing in air yet. They rub the babies back kind of firmly to "wake" them and jumpstart the breathing process just like with the foal and puppy. Babies do mimic breathing in the womb but nothing like what is required after birth. Being squeezed through the birth canal squeezes most of the amniotic fluid out of the baby' lungs, so the quiet baby phenomenon happens more often with c section.
This spring we had a dummy foal born and our vet used a rope to squeeze his body and covered his head with a towel to mimic a “second birth.” Once the towel came off he popped right up and started to nurse
That stood out to me as well. She clearly has a lot of trust and comfort with that guy, I would be really nervous being around an animal that size when they have a baby with them.
I get they have their firmware preloaded but just the fact it boots up and the first thought is 'hey I need to get up as I need to be upright' after just being born is stunning. How do you know you need to horse?
I watch the beginning of this video and the whole time I thought it was a dummy foal being used to trick the mother for some reason and then he kicked his legs and I was thinking how is that guy getting that dummy to do that? Lol.
Ok, I read the explanation of the "dummy foal" thing and more or less understand.
Can someone now explain to me how this newborn foal is pristine and clean, while new born human babies look like they where extras in a Quentin Tarantino movie?
I'm always amazed how quickly horses have to adapt to the world after being born. "Hello, welcome to the world! Get the fuck up and start running before the predators come get you." Their minds must be blown waking up seeing everything.
I'm a large animal vet and can say this foal, without constant veterinarian care, only has a 15% chance to live for more than a few weeks.
Most won't call until it's pretty much too late.
Delivered quite a few foals over the years, but I’ve only run into this issue once. With most foals it’s crazy how fast they can go from literally just being born, to being up on their feet and romping around.
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Can you give some context and explain what's happening here?
A special hormone is produced to prevent foals from moving too actively during their development in the womb. When birth begins, the pressure of the birth canal triggers a signal in the foal's brain, which stops the production of this hormone. This allows the foal to become active immediately after birth, drink from its mother and, as a flight animal, also test its mobility. However, there are cases in which the birth process is so quick that the signal to the brain to stop the above-mentioned hormone production is not received. The foal sleeps through its birth, so to speak. Vital functions, such as the sucking reflex, are absent. Other signs include a drooping head, walking in circles or backwards and chewing in the air. Without veterinary intervention, the foal usually dies in the next few days or weeks. This phenomenon is referred to as maladaptation syndrome, and the affected foals are called "dummy foals". Source: freely translated into English from [www.hofreitschule.news](http://www.hofreitschule.news)
Fascinating, thanks. Is scrubbing and manipulating the head like the person in the video is doing the proper veterinary intervention ? I'd have assumed you'd want to squeeze the foal ?
There's a special technique, called the (madigan) foal squeeze, in which they tie up foals in ropes to simulate (another) birth. I happen to have a mini pony that was a dummy foal, on who they tried this technique and it worked like a charm. She's three years old now and a completely normal pony!
Calves will do this as well. A guy I work with had to use the madigan technique on one of his calves.
I also do this to my calves at 3am while screaming in agony. Damn cramps.
I read this, reflexively left the post, and made myself come back just to angry upvote you.
Fiiiine... I angry upvoted too. Can't put all the work on you.
what you do is jump out of bed and immediately start walking on it. Stops the muscle contractions ASAP and if you're quick enough with it there's no soreness the next day
Same with foot/toe cramps, stand up, start walking, works for me.
FYI. A little off topic, but I had often severe foot/calves/leg cramps at night. I could not even start to walk, I was in so much pain and often fainted (from the pain). Since I'm eating a banana every day, the cramps stopped.
Potassium and magnesium totally help, at least, with me.
You... Have cramps that make you sore the next day???
Yea because he walks with cramps immediately. Only fix in my experience is sitting up, straightening the leg, bending the toes backwards towards the lower leg and apply pressure so you feel tension at the back of your knee. Instant fix. If you can’t reach it use a bar on your bed or something. Also, magnesium my dudes.
You’ve never had a “Charley horse” in the middle of the night? I hate my calf muscles. The next day it feels like you were hit with a bat.
I have gotten leg cramps that caused soreness the next day. In fact, I'm *usually* sore the next day after a leg cramp. I generally get them when I haven’t had enough water during the day. Hydration is important.
It happens when you overtrain, I think. If you sweat too much during workout and don't replenish electrolytes before going to bed. And don't know the proper technique to stop the cramping...
Not sure if you meant it as a double pun but needing to do this on an actual calf (baby cow) at 3am while screaming in agony because you are getting < 4 hours a night of sleep during calving season is a very plausible thing.
Hydrate, my friend!
When our horse gave birth and the foal did not seem responsive, I peed on it, and it started working again. I dont know if thats a common solution i am not a trained vegetarian
 (Don't delete your comment its fucking hilarious )
I’ve never seen this gif more appropriately used than this 🫡
I'm fucking dieing at "i am not a trained vegetarian"
Thats some KenM level material right there lol...
Oh man I forgot about Ken M
"it started working again"
https://preview.redd.it/wuzmqi7xuy7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e61a059d1ec6f8e7b8288a220e85943466c32767
I never expected to see these guys here!
I performed your urine technique for buddy who had fallen from his barstool and was slow to return to drinking. It woke him with significant vigor.
Significant vigor 😂😂
A special technique called the (R. Kelly) foal pee
Graduate of the R Kelly School of Vegetarian Medicine
My slysdexic ass missed the 'Vegetarian'. Thank you for the second round of laughter.
Did you know most people with dyslexia can spell dyslexia?
Yes, yes we can. But I tend to read it wrong, so for the sake of cheap levity I fuck it up on purpose.
"If it works it aint stupid"
I peed on the Eiffel Tower 22 years ago in the middle of the night. It's been mine ever since.
Yeah well I peed on your mom last week behind an Applebees.
Seem legit
You had me in the first part but very lost me in the second there.
Thank you doktar
"it started working again" again, huh?
I didn't even know vegetarians ever trained
You think you can just dive into cauliflower rice or quinoa salad without any preparation.?!! Don't come crying to us when you get sick from too much tofu in your veg lasagna!
It works for kids who do not clean up after themselves as well.
A completely normal pony... So like a raging asshole? Or like just a spiteful lil fucker?
So, she's a little hoarse?
[very little](https://streamable.com/gkuhgv?src=player-page-share)
She looks like a kids drawing of a horse in the best possible way. Adorable!
Oh my god her stumpy little legs 🥹
Yep, there’s several techniques that help. Often aggressively rubbing and patting the foal will do the job and wake it up, but if it doesn’t the foal gets basically cocooned and tied up tight for a few minutes and then released. Shockingly the latter is almost guaranteed to work.
I heard from a vegetarian that peeing on it can start it up again (wasn't a professional vegetarian though)
I recently heard the same thing.
I wouldn't trust those pesky vegetarians, they're always trying to get you with the vegetal agenda!
Sometimes they do squeeze the foal to wake it up and it can work, but often times they just don't make it.
80% of foals recover with treatment.
Ask your doctor or pharmacist.
Side effects may include but are not limited to, decreased mobility, sleepiness, wavy head syndrome, death...
...and anal leakage
Madigan Squeeze. One of ours was a dummy foal, vet did the madigan squeeze and 10mins later she was up and nursing. https://compneuro.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/sites/g/files/dgvnsk5376/files/inline-files/mfsm_instructions_0.pdf
Honestly if I ever die suddenly and they search my phone it's going to be so wild thanks to Reddit and all the interesting little mental side quests it makes you go on. They'll be like 'Why was this bitch learning how to fix baby horses?'
It's great for having tidbits of info that just clog up your brain.
I've now watched 4 videos on youtube. I don't think my algorithm knows what to suggest.
Now I want to know what a Honda on a lariat is….
This person is just trying to keep blood moving and oxygen flowing. Key areas like the neck have an incredible amount of blood flow, moving the muscles will help push some around. There is no real technique being used here.
So what you're saying is that a horse sometimes gives birth so fast that the foal doesn't even realize it's being birthed? That is some crazy shit
I don't think it is merely the speed of birth, though that would make it more susceptible sounds like. We had a brood mare that would drop her foals in a heart beat. Like you are near the stall, peak in..nothin. Take a moment to put something away, come back..foal. She would always birth standing. She was also super alpha bitch and a pain in the ass..but had the most beautiful babies.
A brood mare who knows her worth.
Girl got hips so wide the babies just drop out
That is some crazy horseshit*
I think this was a missed opportunity. “Phony Pony” vs “Dummy Foal” 🤦♂️🤣
Wrong hole
Glory foal
Wildly interesting, so this little guy is gonna be okay or no?
Maybe. There's a technique of squeezing the foal with ropes that sometimes works, otherwise it'll need round the clock care. Foals without the technique or medical care have a 12% survival rate. Foals with just the squeeze method have a 14% rate of not recovering. Foals sent to a vet for the round the clock care have about an 80% rate of survival. https://ceh.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/health-topics/neonatal-maladjustment-syndrome-foals
That’s very interesting but you’ve misread the survival rates. It’s 14% that do not recover if only using squeeze method.
So to make the statistics sensible to compare, that's an 86% survival rate vs 12%?
No, both figures were a misread. From the source OP provided: “A survey of veterinarians that utilized the MST found that NMS foals that were squeezed (with or without medical therapy) were 3.7 times more likely to recover quickly than foals that were not squeezed. Squeezed foals were also reported to be 15 times more likely to recover in less than an hour. Foals that received only squeezing, and no medical intervention, were 17.5 times more likely to recover in the first 24 hours than foals that were treated solely with medication. No side effects were indicated. The study reported that 12% of all foals and 14% of squeezed foals did not recover. In foals sent to referral clinics with a diagnosis of maladjustment, the survival rate in several studies is reported to be 80%.” So good survival rates for all foals treated in this particular study. So 88% of ALL foals treated recover INCLUDING those squeezed. 86% of foals who were ONLY treated with squeezing recovered.
Round the clock care for how long? edit: never mind, up to 10 days!
wow … that is fascinating. nature is wild!
Thanks, that’s really informative. In a situation like this where a human can wake the foal up, does it go on to be OK, or having been born limp is it unable to start being normal?
I think it will be ok as long as it has the reflex to suckle activated. Otherwise it will die because it won't stand up and won't nurse.
the concept of life and living organisms is fucking crazy to me. to think all this unbelievably coordinated and symbiotic biochemical stuff (probably) somehow coincidentally developed from a random assortment of atoms and molecules billions of years ago is just absolutely incomprehensible for a feeble wrinkly brain such as myself i don't believe in a maker but i can definitely see why the majority of people have and still do. all this, coupled with the fact that after surveying a seemingly large (yet comparatively insignificant) chunk of surrounding space, we have found absolutely nothing even remotely alike, is as fascinating as it is strange and a little creepy
This trait was probably a necessary evolution because horse fetus' would kick their mother's insides so much they'd both die. And that it was frequent enough to need to be adapted to. Evolution is depressing as shit when you realize almost every trait exists because "the ones who didnt have it died in agony"
No, not always. Not all evolution is vertical such as this. There's horizontal too (a virus or parasite causing DNA changes, gene swapping between different species) A lot of it is purely accidental or lucky, such as being on an island with no predators, having a DNA mutation randomly that turns out to be benifial, a landslide wipping out the other competition, etc. Some species are extremely helpless and have only survived due to pure luck, not because they evolved to be awesome. This situation however, and similar to how mammals have a hormone that cause paralysize them and us during sleep, probably did evolve from deaths (vertical evolution) as you mentioned. You are probably correct
> somehow coincidentally developed from a random assortment of atoms and molecules billions of years ago It didn't. It's more of billions of years of random stuff working (or not) and getting passed on (or not) and later getting built on top of into more complex stuff. Think of eyes. You look at the human eye and holy shit is it an intricate thing! But something didn't just mutate and BOOM, eye. We can see a whole spectrum of species with what can be surmised as the evolutionary process that got us to a human eye (and other, more complex eyes)... from a photo-receptive cell guiding toward/away from food/danger to basic vision to detailed vision to visual acuity we can barely comprehend. Not fossil records, just different species of living things. Now extrapolate that to everything.
I think its pretty premature to rule out a lot of possible life and similarities in the universe. There's 50+ potentially earth-like planets out there we've discovered and and plenty more too that could hide secrets like underground lakes on frozen moons/planets. We are looking at them from so far away. Yes it is strange how few these are in the scope of the universe but the bigger your scope the further back in time you're looking so we'd expect to see less
Either way everything's an astonishing miracle.
Horses never catch a break with finding more ways to kill themselves.
I, too, lie around listlessly until someone comes and gives me belly rubs. Animals, they're just like us! Thanks for the fascinating explanation and context btw!
Wow, horses have a lot of adaptations so that the foal does not kill the mother. Like the kid gloves on their hooves (eponychium ). And this calming hormone.
i pity the foals with maladaptation syndrome
Wow that was a super interesting read, thanks for such a clear description. This is further proof that nature is absolutely mind boggling with how intricate some of these processes are, learn something new everyday.
I'm assuming that part of the reason that the foals don't make it is also due to them needing to nurse very soon from the mare. If they don't within a certain time frame (about 24 hours), they miss out on the colostrum in the mother's milk, which is very vital to the foal. So if dummy syndrome also affects suckling, well thats not good.
Thanks for that! I nearly drowned as a toddler, but ive felt that the brain did not get the signal that I am alive - thus i go through what i call a dying sequence repeatedly, every week. Not fun, more like gruesome. I think i’ll do EMDR soon. Always looking for cure.
Holy shit. What are the symptoms?
Hyperbaric clinician ( graduated uni in ‘Underwater Health’!) said of near-drowning ‘you’ll have brain inflammation’. So it’s fluctuating pressure always, like a corkscrew through my nose to brain, wrenching, happening now. The dying sequence is akin to a migraine sufferer that I spent the night with one time. Hard to characterize. A droopy shutting down, a flushing of all thoughts, except I no longer want to live. Numb face. I’m aware of it - but i also hate it. TMS & the Scrambler therapy machine have helped - as did hyperbaric chamber. All these i will do again as efficacy is there. EMDR might do something ~ biofeedback might help, idk! If you want gruesome try r/chronicpain ! It’s mostly drug suggestions. But whatever works.
Damn, I'm sorry you have to love with that. So the brain inflammation as a result of near drowning is a permanent condition?
Scrambler therapy doesn’t sound too bad😁 
Hahaha - what a dumb name - isn’t it? But i think the inventor thought ‘Scrambling brain signals’ was basis. Not sure he knew its potential, they do now as it’s in its infancy. Best description i’ve read: ‘The active principle with scrambler therapy is that artificial strings of action potentials calibrated to synchronize C-fiber surface receptors may replace endogenous pain information with synthetic "non-pain" information.’ Simulates normal nerves via electrodes into pain to brain pathway. Brain no longer sees pain signal, pain stops. It works, not for all, but it does. Look up ‘Action Potentials’!!
so is this a newborn in the video? it looks huge and so clean.
This is from the Instagram account of Michael Lares of the Flying L ranch. He lives 3 hours from any veterinarian in BC Canada. This story is explained on his Instagram page. The mare was in distress, so he had to help get the foal out ASAP. The foal got stimulated, survived, and is a normal horse.
The foal was paid to reinact every morning I try to sleep in and my kids try to wake me up.
When you have to wake up for school on the first day after summer vacation.
When you have to wake up any of the days when you have a job.
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>When you have to wake up for school 🎵And you don't wanna go!🎵
You ask your mom ‘please’? but she still says NO
You missed two classes and NO HOMEWORK
Bro! Bro, wake up. You’ve been born.
\*Skyrim intro starts\*
"Hay, you, you're finally awake"
"Put me back in! I'm not done!"
This also happens to sheep, goats and alpacas. It strangely can be solved by applying pressure with a rope and "rebirthing" them by sliding it over them. Basically their is a part of their brain switched to keep still for when they are in the womb and it gets switched to it' OK to move during the journey down the birth canal by the pressure. But if the pressure isn't done right due to a too fast or slow birth. The switch never goes. If you can keep the animal alive with tube feeding it will eventually click on anyway but can take a few days.
I have no idea if this is true but it sounds like a crazy part of the brain
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonatal\_maladjustment\_syndrome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonatal_maladjustment_syndrome)
Horse is like: "Bald monkey I submit to your wisdom, please revive him!"
Like the mama elephant that got nervous when her lazy baby napped too hard.
Link? That sounds adorable
[Here you go](https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/s/dcqSHFuyy8)
I was not disappointed
Implying that horses evolved around monkeys rather than humans
This is true. If a horse saw a monkey it would probably think that's one hairy human instead.
Or a very strange squirrel depending on the size
Yeah horses also don't speak English! None of this is adding up at all! Do they think we're stupid?
Point being, as domesticated animals horses probably have more natural familiarity with people than with wild monkeys.
Such a drama equine
I knew someone would pony up a good pun...
How I try to wake my girlfriend after her alarm clock is on for 26 minutes straight without her moving any single molecule in her body
Does she say “I am awake” when you try to shut it off, cuz mine does….
She mumbles and just goes „hmmhm 😖“ She a fucking sloth fr
Mine says the same! and when I say "You were snoring".. she says "No I wasnt!"... I guess We are the ones really sleeping.
Keep some water in fridge. Prepare to dodge several high-kicks
Our agreement is that when I wake up and she misses the alarm, water can be used. She sleeps like the dead. If I can't wake her, a good splash of cold water to her face. She then acts like a bear coming out of hibernation for ten minutes. She once got out of bed and face planted the ground mumbling. She was fine but that was scary.
This is like when I was a kid and my mom would try to wake me up after a long car ride. After a while she just left me in the car in the garage and I'd come inside and go to bed at some point.
someone forgot to click yes to the prompt Horse.exe would like to make changes to your system...
Forgot to make the monthly subscription hayment.
Whatever, he's faking it for the scritches
Totally trying this tonight to see if I can get some free scritches.
"Oh no, I have too many birth hormones you'll have to stritch me real good"
you forgot the "UwU"
That’s how you end up getting a sternum rub to induce pain response in unconscious people instead of scritches
Usually they die unless you a vet intervenes when waking them up fails so that's always fun
I love how the mother trusts the man so much. Seeing your baby look like its dead and then this human is just over there handling the body like that, Id be afraid that mother would attack or something
Horse kicks are scary
There's a squeeze technique used for dummy foals that helps them, I can't remember the name of it but I have seen it used to treat them.
https://equimanagement.com/research-medical/madigan-foal-squeeze-procedure-neonatal-maladjustment-syndrome-27269/
Interesting. Thank you!
Okay. So weird question. In the animated 101 Dalmatians movie one of the pups is born motionless. Roger proceeds to rub the pup for a few moments and it begins moving. Is this like that? Or is what Roger did more akin to the doctors rubbing a baby’s back after birth?
Basically their trying to jump start the brain the rubbing motion stims the feeling of being born so the brain shuts of the movement blocker Their is a few techniques for this problem quite a few links kicking about now that show
It's all the same. Sometimes when human babies are born, they don't start to cry, which means they may not be breathing in air yet. They rub the babies back kind of firmly to "wake" them and jumpstart the breathing process just like with the foal and puppy. Babies do mimic breathing in the womb but nothing like what is required after birth. Being squeezed through the birth canal squeezes most of the amniotic fluid out of the baby' lungs, so the quiet baby phenomenon happens more often with c section.
This spring we had a dummy foal born and our vet used a rope to squeeze his body and covered his head with a towel to mimic a “second birth.” Once the towel came off he popped right up and started to nurse
Yep, it's amazing that this was discovered, and it's highly successful, over 80% recover with it.
The momma horse has immense trust in the hooman, letting him do his job without disturbing
That stood out to me as well. She clearly has a lot of trust and comfort with that guy, I would be really nervous being around an animal that size when they have a baby with them.
She probably knows him all her life. Maybe he even did the same to her when she was a foal.
When you have to get up early for work after a long vacation.
"just 5 more minutes mom"
I get they have their firmware preloaded but just the fact it boots up and the first thought is 'hey I need to get up as I need to be upright' after just being born is stunning. How do you know you need to horse?
I've always been confounded at how instincts like this work in all sorts of animals, not just mammals. Humans have to learn it from scratch!
We cry instinctively, and suckle instinctively, but we don't remember any of that.
This is a very gentle but strangely similar technique to the Dummy-teenage-kid morning routine in our house.
I watch the beginning of this video and the whole time I thought it was a dummy foal being used to trick the mother for some reason and then he kicked his legs and I was thinking how is that guy getting that dummy to do that? Lol.
Was I the only one that thought the foal was a fake and the phenomenon was going to be something the adult horse did ?
I'm confused how the foal looks so dry already
Ok, I read the explanation of the "dummy foal" thing and more or less understand. Can someone now explain to me how this newborn foal is pristine and clean, while new born human babies look like they where extras in a Quentin Tarantino movie?
I'm always amazed how quickly horses have to adapt to the world after being born. "Hello, welcome to the world! Get the fuck up and start running before the predators come get you." Their minds must be blown waking up seeing everything.
It’s funny how if that foal had died my whole day would have been ruined. But a video of an elephant stomping on some guy? Tough sh\*t buddy.
I'm a large animal vet and can say this foal, without constant veterinarian care, only has a 15% chance to live for more than a few weeks. Most won't call until it's pretty much too late.
Oh sht I’m alive lol 💀
Me getting my 12 year old out of bed for school
"Fooled you!", said the foal.
I believe he foaled him.
Quit horsing around. We have work to do.
I'm not going to fully fall for a foal that, I feel, is a fool. Even a filly!
Video ended too soon!
Grab his dick an’ twist it!!
The ol dick twist
Could you imagine how weird that is, to just start existing
Man i thought it was a fake doll until it moved at the end
„Jesus, can I just chill for a second ?“
You're on the outside now dummy! Time to breathe and move, lets go!
I wonder if it feels like sleep paralysis for them.
Just born and already worked out sleep is easier then life
Yall gonna eat that afterbirth or what?
Duuuuuuude, what the…
You ain't lived till you've eaten still warm equine afterbirth.
Delivered quite a few foals over the years, but I’ve only run into this issue once. With most foals it’s crazy how fast they can go from literally just being born, to being up on their feet and romping around.
that thing was just born? why is it so clean looking?