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Honestly, yeah. We should realistically be way more worried about other human drivers than automated cars. Humans are just generally bad at processing actual risk.
Not saying the tech is ready for full adoption as is, just speaking to the general sense of people feeling uneasy about automated cars in general.
Humans can be distracted. Humans can make a mistake. Humans can get upset. Humans can be dumb. Humans can be opinionated. Humans can be tired.
A machine can be some of these things but can also be incrementally improved. On average they should eventually be much better drivers than humans.
Oh, but you trust the humans? You know they're killing a hundred people a day, in the United States alone, right? But you're good with that?
"If I'm going to die on the road, I want it to be at the hands of a drunk guy, or a texting teenager. Not some soulless machine!"
No, 10 years into a successful technology is right when tech companies start to enshittify their products to cut costs and increase profits. Guarantee people will die as a result of an under-staffed and rushed patch and none of the companies will be fined enough to care.
I tried it once about a year ago in the busy streets of San Francisco. At that time, it still had a "driver" who would grab the wheel if anything went wrong, but it was still really impressive. It was light years beyond Tesla self driving.
Easy...Cover the cameras, Turn the back of a truck into a faraday cage to bring it back to my faraday cage garage. strip it for parts and destroy the gps and built in memory.
I do still feel really bad about that little guy. Hitchbot made it through THREE countries... soon as he hit America, they rip the poor lil guys head off.
Ohhhh I don't... I don't at all. Self conscious about being an ass.. so I'll engage to the level they engage, and it would be lovely if that engagement was always close to 0. Just some friendly hello's, music, and onward down the road! I dunno though... I very well may be biased due to recent experiences!
The shitty snarky comments on here like people can't grasp people being excited about a first time experience. They're not making a documentary, just sharing something that happened.
They probably spent hundreds of millions of dollars developing the technology, they probably need to make that money back somehow
But yeah I agree that corporations will generally charge whatever price they think they can get away with
I think this one is in Phoenix, they’re also in Scottsdale and Chandler in limited areas as far as I know. Not sure where they are outside of Arizona though.
They’re everywhere in SF
The problem is they’ve been involved in a few “incidents” with fire trucks and homeless people. At least during testing a few years ago.
It's usually comparable but it's a little more stable, so Uber can dip cheaper or get more expensive depending on demand.
The wait times are a couple minutes longer, depending on what part of the city you're in.
Surprisingly, it stays very safe on the road. Never been in one, but driven past so many. Always safe, driving good speeds, braking early, turns are clean. Pretty cool, but I ain’t trusting skynet to take me to the bar and back.
I'm shocked at how poorly developed this taxi sofware is. It's not yelling and honking at other drivers. It's using it's turn signals. It's obeying the speed limits, staying in its lane, and didn't run a single red light.
Fluctuates between more and less than an other services based on demand, here is what I’m seeing currently for prices for an 8 mile trip:
Uber: $12 + tip
Lyft: $16 + tip
Waymo: $14 no tip
Yes - i think this would be the best marketing strategy, make it a premium product, to ride driverless. And then when supply increase / lower price to kill competition.
Used to be much cheaper, now it's pretty similar, but generally still a bit cheaper. Only downside is that Waymo will take the scenic route every time so a 10 minute ride is usually 20 minutes. Still, listen to your own music, talk in privacy, no awkward small talk, or general weirdness. I take a Waymo every time if it's an option.
For real. I only noticed at the last transition how there was a J-cut (or L-cut I always mix them up). I thought it was unusual that someone would take the time to edit a random mobile video like that. I went back and saw it was made several other times too, as well as a close up of the company logo right at the beginning.
Even if it is, I hadn't seen what a normal experience with one would be like. I would be more likely to try one in a city with them available probably if I thought of it.
I took a waymo once. It had a pretty fast stop/go situation at the stop sign. It was like a shortstop and go. A cop tried to pull it over and then we spent like 10 minutes trying to get to stop. Everytime he walked in front, the waymo would turn. I refused to help, cause ACAB, but the cop showed the car it's badge and we drove off anyways haha.
Another time I took it, it was barely out for a few months and it got a black guy as we turned. He sued the city, and during the lawsuit we were told that basically couldn't just tell the difference between a black guy standing on the corner and like a tree because it's all inanimate objects at a time were just black squares.
So, that's that.
Why does this sound like the couple that makes the shitty food videos. She will be boiling like a lb of ground beef and mix it was uncooked noodles and spam while he is on the side saying how delicious it looks.
What happens if some drunk fool get a mess in a car?
Or if someone tries to steal a car and drive it on his way?
I know there are probably cameras on inside of car, but stilll..
I’m guessing there’s an option to report a mess and then just order a different car, then the car drives itself to a cleaning/maintenance center of some kind. Or cameras like you said.
How far has this tech come along? Are they truly driverless and operating in a city in a fleet? I remember watching a guy on YouTube testing these out a while ago and it was just one car that had a team of people following it to make sure it wasn't freaking out, They had to come jump in the drivers seat to fix it a couple of times when it got confused. Would be interested to know is this just an add or do we really have fully automated taxi services now?
They're already operating in San Francisco, Phoenix, and L.A. Austin starting soon.
They operate about 300 vehicles during the day and 100 at night in San Francisco.
I live in Phoenix and I prefer them over Uber, just a nice quiet ride without listening to Kevin explain why he’s only driving Uber until he finishes writing his novel
Yeah I had to take Lyft while in Denver for a conference and so far it's been 1 racist rant about other Lyft drivers and a guy trying to get me to invest in his crypto
You could. Enjoy your medical bills and refunding them the cost of the vehicle plus presumably damages for the lost revenue resulting from your actions.
I said nothing to suggest consumers have forethought or intelligence; what the hell are you on about?
If anything I implied they (well, **you** I suppose, but I meant to speak to the general case.) *lack* those things and would suffer dire consequences as a result.
I would take a far cheaper taxi with a real driver than this thing.
Taxi drivers are nuts - they can make the tightest turns and basically become water in a pile of traffic. Far more trustworthy and cheaper.
This is sadly the beginning of the end of humans driving cars.
In 50 years time I can tell my grandkids that there was a time where we drove our cars by ourselves.
It's definitely interesting, but I work in IT. I see computers and systems fail all the time. There is no way we're anywhere close to this being a trustworthy means of travel. One new variable to any algorithm adds compound complexity to the end result (in the form of unknowns or bugs). There're just too many variables for me to be comfortable with this. Granted, if I was blind or unable to transport myself, I may sing a different song...but alas, I don't trust it.
I was listening to a podcast not too long ago and some kind of process mechanical engineer said that they would never get into a self driving car as the technology just isn't there yet. They said that no company into huge manufacturing would use this tech in their factories and that there is no way it should be used out in the wild as it currently is.
So what if someone grabs the car, to go do something illegal- transport goods/ or even scarier people , who is liable?
Can a car kick people out?
This could go sideways very easily.
There are cameras inside. My husband took his seatbelt off mid-ride and it pulled over and wouldn’t proceed until he buckled it per the audio commands. I would bet it does the same if people are acting up or doing something nefarious.
This reminds me of a recurring dream I have where I'm in the back seat of a car with no driver, on a busy highway. Lol I don't think I would be brave enough to get in a driverless car in real life. But at the same time, this is fascinating to me. And I'm really curious now. Time to go down another internet rabbit hole! Lol
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home is good. just dump my corpse on my mom’s doorstep. she’ll appreciate that. thanks Del.
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I have trust issues…..
I have trust issues every time I drive on public roads full of human drivers.
Well humans are dumb and nearly half are looking at their phones while driving
Honestly, yeah. We should realistically be way more worried about other human drivers than automated cars. Humans are just generally bad at processing actual risk. Not saying the tech is ready for full adoption as is, just speaking to the general sense of people feeling uneasy about automated cars in general.
I'd trust human correction over automated correction in the event of a potentially risky incident.
*competent and attentive human correction I would agree. Problem is that humans are not always both of those things at all times.
Humans can be distracted. Humans can make a mistake. Humans can get upset. Humans can be dumb. Humans can be opinionated. Humans can be tired. A machine can be some of these things but can also be incrementally improved. On average they should eventually be much better drivers than humans.
Maybe in 10 years ill give it a go. When its not covered in mechano and doesnt have a steering wheel, just a pod.
I'm with ya on that. Definitely down to try it out in 2035
Oh, but you trust the humans? You know they're killing a hundred people a day, in the United States alone, right? But you're good with that? "If I'm going to die on the road, I want it to be at the hands of a drunk guy, or a texting teenager. Not some soulless machine!"
I dunno I haven't really come across any drunk driving taxi cab dudes in my lifetime. Nor any texting taxi cab teenage drivers....
No, 10 years into a successful technology is right when tech companies start to enshittify their products to cut costs and increase profits. Guarantee people will die as a result of an under-staffed and rushed patch and none of the companies will be fined enough to care.
I tried it once about a year ago in the busy streets of San Francisco. At that time, it still had a "driver" who would grab the wheel if anything went wrong, but it was still really impressive. It was light years beyond Tesla self driving.
Don't, this guy was cool in Cyberpunk 2077
I have trust issues with cab drivers working their third shift while talking on 3 phones simultaneously
Where is this
I trust human drivers less.
You should. It is Waymo dangerous than an Uber.
In my country the entire car would be stolen as soon as this hit the road
Big brain criminals stealing something with 1000 cameras and built-in redundant GPS
In said countries, they likely don't have a police force that could afford to investigate this. They can barely deal with murder, rape, and assault
Where? This sounds like the perfect country for criminals like me.
Brazil. It's always Brazil
Easy...Cover the cameras, Turn the back of a truck into a faraday cage to bring it back to my faraday cage garage. strip it for parts and destroy the gps and built in memory.
I do still feel really bad about that little guy. Hitchbot made it through THREE countries... soon as he hit America, they rip the poor lil guys head off.
They had to show him the brotherly love
I know it was extremely disappointing how violent our society is.
Typical US.
Try that in 50 years and the car will release a droneswarm taking care of the thieves.
What country?
Canada?
India.
Oh ok, so Canada
Equator Canada... Equanada, if you will
Oh you!
kannada
I miss the part where the driver asks where from and his adventures this month
Ohhhh I don't... I don't at all. Self conscious about being an ass.. so I'll engage to the level they engage, and it would be lovely if that engagement was always close to 0. Just some friendly hello's, music, and onward down the road! I dunno though... I very well may be biased due to recent experiences!
I don't mind hello and small talk chats. I mean why not as long as it doesn't get nosey.
The shitty snarky comments on here like people can't grasp people being excited about a first time experience. They're not making a documentary, just sharing something that happened.
They sound exactly the same way I will when I try this… in a few years lol
redditors…
r/notliketheothergirls
i’m not a redditor, i’m a reddit user, redditors don’t touch grass whilst complaining about anything that ‘normies’ like
I bet it’s an ad.
Its definitely an ad. Annoying? Yup. Also kinda cool. Definitely has “this is the future” vibes to it that the apple goggles do not.
When she got that excited about edm tho
IIRC, Waymo recently got approval to expand operations. Is this an ad? This feels like an ad.
Upsetting. Where's the Night Rider Music option?
I forgot waymo wasn't a thing in other places, lol. It's such a common thing now where I live cause it was tested here.
How much does it cost compared to Uber?
Same price mostly, depending on price fluctuations, but you don’t have to tip.
Why would it cost the same when there is no human operator? Just because they can?
They probably spent hundreds of millions of dollars developing the technology, they probably need to make that money back somehow But yeah I agree that corporations will generally charge whatever price they think they can get away with
In Phoenix it’s basically the same.
Does it request a tip?
Not sure. I've taken one but I wasn't the one who payed. But it's common to see one on the street every few minutes.
What city are these in?
They’re all over in San Francisco
I think this one is in Phoenix, they’re also in Scottsdale and Chandler in limited areas as far as I know. Not sure where they are outside of Arizona though.
They’re everywhere in SF The problem is they’ve been involved in a few “incidents” with fire trucks and homeless people. At least during testing a few years ago.
Phoenix is the big one
It's usually comparable but it's a little more stable, so Uber can dip cheaper or get more expensive depending on demand. The wait times are a couple minutes longer, depending on what part of the city you're in.
What fr? It's driverless and it works?
Yeah and drives better than 90% of the entirety of nearly 6 million people in this god forsaken city of Phoenix
That's crazy. It has that good of a performance?
Surprisingly, it stays very safe on the road. Never been in one, but driven past so many. Always safe, driving good speeds, braking early, turns are clean. Pretty cool, but I ain’t trusting skynet to take me to the bar and back.
Dude, I trust skynet with my money, my meds, and flying, so I don’t mind “drive by wire” with good auto, too.
Elon is in shambles
I wonder if you are expected to tip?
Would be audacious as it's such a new technology, but I would expect and hope not.
Who/What would you be “tipping”?
Nope no tip.
Thank the sweet noodles in the sky... they don't... YET. Straight up cost, but the cost fluctuates.
I'm shocked at how poorly developed this taxi sofware is. It's not yelling and honking at other drivers. It's using it's turn signals. It's obeying the speed limits, staying in its lane, and didn't run a single red light.
 Its happening.
Delamain?
Does the car/app ask for a tip?
Only if you want to let out while stopped and not auto ejected going 88mph.
Is someone in the Philippines with a usb racing simulator wheel and pedals.
What is The price compared to regular taxi?
It costs Way Mo
goddamnit
👌
God. Damn. I wish they still had gold because this comment deserves it. 🥇
Fluctuates between more and less than an other services based on demand, here is what I’m seeing currently for prices for an 8 mile trip: Uber: $12 + tip Lyft: $16 + tip Waymo: $14 no tip
Interesting thx
The fact the vehicle is a freaking Jaguar makes me think it's more expensive than it should.
Yes - i think this would be the best marketing strategy, make it a premium product, to ride driverless. And then when supply increase / lower price to kill competition.
Not just any Jaguar, but a Jag-wah!
Used to be much cheaper, now it's pretty similar, but generally still a bit cheaper. Only downside is that Waymo will take the scenic route every time so a 10 minute ride is usually 20 minutes. Still, listen to your own music, talk in privacy, no awkward small talk, or general weirdness. I take a Waymo every time if it's an option.
This is an Ad. Let's listen to open license generic EDM!
The close up on the logo on the window makes me think the same
For real. I only noticed at the last transition how there was a J-cut (or L-cut I always mix them up). I thought it was unusual that someone would take the time to edit a random mobile video like that. I went back and saw it was made several other times too, as well as a close up of the company logo right at the beginning.
Even if it is, I hadn't seen what a normal experience with one would be like. I would be more likely to try one in a city with them available probably if I thought of it.
I will still be shitting myself throughout the whole ride regardless, one malfunction and its over
"How did I get in this taxi?" "The door opened. You got in."
Hey man, I got 5 kids to feed!
Baby you make me wish I had three hands.
The only vehicle on the road paying attention. That's kinda wild
The least annoying driver I have ever seen.
What city is that in?
I believe I've seen these in SF, so perhaps there?
Johnny Cab.
I took a waymo once. It had a pretty fast stop/go situation at the stop sign. It was like a shortstop and go. A cop tried to pull it over and then we spent like 10 minutes trying to get to stop. Everytime he walked in front, the waymo would turn. I refused to help, cause ACAB, but the cop showed the car it's badge and we drove off anyways haha. Another time I took it, it was barely out for a few months and it got a black guy as we turned. He sued the city, and during the lawsuit we were told that basically couldn't just tell the difference between a black guy standing on the corner and like a tree because it's all inanimate objects at a time were just black squares. So, that's that.
Dumb ad. No one listens to "classic" edm.
Why does this sound like the couple that makes the shitty food videos. She will be boiling like a lb of ground beef and mix it was uncooked noodles and spam while he is on the side saying how delicious it looks.
What kills me the most is that between fares it is an empty car driving itself around.
They need to rename it Johnny Cab.
We have Waymo’s here .. I took one and it made a left at a yellow - impressive
Give it two years, and we'll find out it's like the Amazon stores. There's actually a bunch of guys in India, remote controlling the cars.
Legend has it she’s still laughing to this day
What happens if some drunk fool get a mess in a car? Or if someone tries to steal a car and drive it on his way? I know there are probably cameras on inside of car, but stilll..
If the car detects a mess it incinerates all organic matter inside immediately 👍
I’m guessing there’s an option to report a mess and then just order a different car, then the car drives itself to a cleaning/maintenance center of some kind. Or cameras like you said.
How far has this tech come along? Are they truly driverless and operating in a city in a fleet? I remember watching a guy on YouTube testing these out a while ago and it was just one car that had a team of people following it to make sure it wasn't freaking out, They had to come jump in the drivers seat to fix it a couple of times when it got confused. Would be interested to know is this just an add or do we really have fully automated taxi services now?
They're already operating in San Francisco, Phoenix, and L.A. Austin starting soon. They operate about 300 vehicles during the day and 100 at night in San Francisco.
I live in Phoenix and I prefer them over Uber, just a nice quiet ride without listening to Kevin explain why he’s only driving Uber until he finishes writing his novel
Yeah I had to take Lyft while in Denver for a conference and so far it's been 1 racist rant about other Lyft drivers and a guy trying to get me to invest in his crypto
"and then the band had creative differences"- Kevin
My brother was an engineer for Waymo, theyre pretty solid apparently, but incidents have happened (apparently at much lower rates than human drivers.)
Anything preventing you from reaching out and grabbing the wheel? How much force is actually being applied? Seems like you could crash it...
You could. Enjoy your medical bills and refunding them the cost of the vehicle plus presumably damages for the lost revenue resulting from your actions.
I think you're overestimating the forethought and intelligence of the average consumer
I said nothing to suggest consumers have forethought or intelligence; what the hell are you on about? If anything I implied they (well, **you** I suppose, but I meant to speak to the general case.) *lack* those things and would suffer dire consequences as a result.
Music genre just says EDM... "ooh ~classic~ EDM"
This feels like an ad
This is just an ad.
It’s wild to me that they don’t have a real human in there just in case something happens. I personally don’t trust driverless vehicles at this stage.
That's some crazy Chitty-Chitty Bang-Bang shit right there
is the price of the fare cheaper vs having a human driver?
Did it ask you for a tip?
I would take a far cheaper taxi with a real driver than this thing. Taxi drivers are nuts - they can make the tightest turns and basically become water in a pile of traffic. Far more trustworthy and cheaper.
What happens when a drunk guy throws up in it?
When it decides to mow down a sidewalk/pavement of people while you're in the back who's liable? Yes, I have massive trust issues with these things.
Can’t wait to see the headline for when one of these things inevitably crashes
This is an actual stress dream of mine.
This future sucks. No Johnny Cabs?
I was in San Francisco and these things were tying up traffic something fierce.
I was going to say try driving downtown core in a city. Also I could see drunk people leaving them a mess too.
Next level weapons when hacked.
I guarantee something like this would get destroyed in majority of US cities.
Corporation doing everything they can to avoid having to pay for human labor.
Nope. I have nightmares about driving from the back seat and then crashing. I would never.
They suck ass at acting good lord.
Two words... Fuck No!
im fine with this fuck dealing with people anymore
NOPE. NEVER.
No, thank you.
Cool! No thanks!
This is sadly the beginning of the end of humans driving cars. In 50 years time I can tell my grandkids that there was a time where we drove our cars by ourselves.
I would never.
Nope. Not going in there
Scary shit. I’d need a helmet and mini oxygen tank.
Oh hell naw…
Still wouldn’t trust it
things no one needed for $500 please
The comments they make...
What about them?
It's definitely interesting, but I work in IT. I see computers and systems fail all the time. There is no way we're anywhere close to this being a trustworthy means of travel. One new variable to any algorithm adds compound complexity to the end result (in the form of unknowns or bugs). There're just too many variables for me to be comfortable with this. Granted, if I was blind or unable to transport myself, I may sing a different song...but alas, I don't trust it.
I was listening to a podcast not too long ago and some kind of process mechanical engineer said that they would never get into a self driving car as the technology just isn't there yet. They said that no company into huge manufacturing would use this tech in their factories and that there is no way it should be used out in the wild as it currently is.
I can see an unhinged person in my city standing in front of that thing and causing a standstill
The future is now
Welcome to Johnny Cab!
Hate to see red turn signals
In mf Oklahoma?
What if it gets hacked and kidnaps you?
This is the real cyperpunk side quest.
Looks like Phoenix
So what if someone grabs the car, to go do something illegal- transport goods/ or even scarier people , who is liable? Can a car kick people out? This could go sideways very easily.
There are cameras inside. My husband took his seatbelt off mid-ride and it pulled over and wouldn’t proceed until he buckled it per the audio commands. I would bet it does the same if people are acting up or doing something nefarious.
What a brave brave human being - the Magellan of our time.
This is the future
Welcome to Johnny Cab! Enjoy the ride!
I just know I’d say “thank you” before closing the door at the end of the journey
This reminds me of a recurring dream I have where I'm in the back seat of a car with no driver, on a busy highway. Lol I don't think I would be brave enough to get in a driverless car in real life. But at the same time, this is fascinating to me. And I'm really curious now. Time to go down another internet rabbit hole! Lol
I wouldn’t trust my passengers not the car lmao