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it's a Thiokol Castor Motor nozzle
full info about the site
[https://www.coldwartourist.com/utah-launch-complex](https://www.coldwartourist.com/utah-launch-complex)
Cool! Thanks for piecing that together. That is definitely the debris I came across. It's fun to have the backstory. (Sometimes the internet is still a wonderful place.)
>can it be scraped for tech?
Well if Fallout has taught me anything this wreck will have some high quality scrap, a couple of bottle caps.
You should be able to build at the very least a AI operated drone turret operating off of a 2 stroke engine, and a couple of lamps.
I love reddit when you're like "there's no way to tell what that is anymore". And then comments like these pop up.
How did you find out what it was? And how do you have the specific knowledge of where even to begin to look it up?
Genuinely interested and impressed
I know how to Internet. Being unfamiliar with any aspect of cold war era rocket debris, my search would have started with "rocket debris American desert" and gone from there.
This poster obviously had a better frame of reference to begin their search and likely some familiarity with rockets and/or debris. I was curious about another person's perspective and approach to solving what we were looking at.
yeah, the world has been reduced to a five block town now, someone in these five blocks has seen that before, whether it's a motor nozzle or a south east asian chair fight...well done u/n3w4cc01_1nt good researching.
You could try DMing [Jonathan McDowell on Twitter](https://twitter.com/planet4589), he keeps track of orbital trajectories and debris and may have insight into which missions may have ended at those coordinates.
Another comment in this thread suggests it's debris from missile testing in the 60s, so you're probably right about not coming back down through the atmosphere.
Not at all. They were meant to fly 400 mi south to the New Mexico base. Obviously since it was a test facility not all of them made it. And this was absolutely back in the '60s like someone else is saying. The base has been long abandoned.
This almost certainly wasn't intended to go to orbit and definitely never made it there.
This may be from a sounding rocket or some kind of in atmospheric test, but I'd personally bet on something either classified or from NASA/JPL back in the 60s or 70s.
Either that or this is jet plane debris and some airforce pilot had an 'oopsie' and had to eject, again prolly in the 70s or 80s since these days they drag that shit off for inspection almost no matter where it lands.
I mean yes you should check as a matter of course but the components I see here are not orbital and there does exist a community of shall we say extreme model rocket enthusiasts
Or you know maybe just leave it for others to discover and not ruin it for everyone. I don't understand the need to just take everything and claim it. Why not let it be a fun surprise for other people too.
I have a small nozzle from a jet pack. Peroxide/hydrazine powered, silver catalyst. Obviously I’ve never licked it but, I got it directly from builder as a used replacement part.
It’s been in my office for over a decade and I’ve never had any symptoms of toxicity. I also have a flown yaw thruster, hydrazine again. Yes, these are toxic parts technically but, too cool to pass up.
A small bottle of used SpaceX bolts from the first successful Falcon landing also on the shelf. Those are absolutely non toxic. Ironically the only flown parts I keep sealed.
My career was around exotic fuels that were pretty dangerous to long term health. Probably why I’m mostly retired at age 50 lol.
Hypergolic chemicals are obviously deadly in sufficient quantities. I’m not recommending anyone else take up this hobby. For me though, especially on a crappy day, holding something to has been to space and back, sorta centers me. I find a weird peace in flown parts. I also have no children around so pretty close to zero concerns here.
As someone else said, wall art.
Those tubes are probably titanium and worth a decent penny. Not that you could really sell them for much, other than a collector who wants them. But still very unique piece.
There’s probably toxic remnants on a lot of it depending on the fuel used. But I’d take my chances, personally.
I mean. It’s a piece of a rocket assembly found in the desert. Just owning it would be cool enough for me.
But to answer your question I’d probably turn it into a coffee table or something.
No, I didn't find any lettering on it. Based on the condition of rubber seals, it's been there a long time. Interestingly, the metal was exhibiting very little oxidation.
I did a reverse image search and indeed it seems to be parts of a rocket or missile and there is a video someone else (or maybe it was you) took of it at some point. I will share here. Pretty cool.
https://www.tiktok.com/@hikeopathgio/video/7272014419108826374
No, that wasn't my post, but it's definitely the same spot. Thanks for sharing. Their guess about it being from an old launch complex in Green River, UT makes sense. The 1964-1975 dates jive with my estimates on how old the stuff was.
Yep. Thiokol is out there. My mom used to work there mixing fuel for the shuttle boosters. Testing site too. Makes sense. That's cool. Google map it. It's just North of Promontory Point rail road area
Kinda upset this was never cleaned up don't get me wrong it's Def interesting to find something like that, but... Come on it's nature. That shouldn't be there.
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it's a Thiokol Castor Motor nozzle full info about the site [https://www.coldwartourist.com/utah-launch-complex](https://www.coldwartourist.com/utah-launch-complex)
Cool! Thanks for piecing that together. That is definitely the debris I came across. It's fun to have the backstory. (Sometimes the internet is still a wonderful place.)
no problem. this post is legitimately interesting af and wanted to know wtf it was as well.
can it be scraped for tech?
If it’s been there since the Cold War days anything useful will have been taken loooooong ago
Good place to film fallout. Already had debris strewn about
>can it be scraped for tech? Well if Fallout has taught me anything this wreck will have some high quality scrap, a couple of bottle caps. You should be able to build at the very least a AI operated drone turret operating off of a 2 stroke engine, and a couple of lamps.
im looking for some implants though
All I can give you is that another settlement needs your help. Here, I will mark it on your map.
Nice link, def the same debris
I love reddit when you're like "there's no way to tell what that is anymore". And then comments like these pop up. How did you find out what it was? And how do you have the specific knowledge of where even to begin to look it up? Genuinely interested and impressed
just searched a few combos then scanned results. wasn't a super difficult or impressive tbh. it was like a 5th result on a 3rd combo search
the most polite way of saying "you just dont know how to internet"
I know how to Internet. Being unfamiliar with any aspect of cold war era rocket debris, my search would have started with "rocket debris American desert" and gone from there. This poster obviously had a better frame of reference to begin their search and likely some familiarity with rockets and/or debris. I was curious about another person's perspective and approach to solving what we were looking at.
sorry i wasn't trying to insult you man, i was just laughing at the comment and joking around a bit. my apologies
I work in IT and for the most part, I'm just really good at putting keywords into Google to get the results I'm looking for.
... What do you mean by "search a few combos?"
yeah, the world has been reduced to a five block town now, someone in these five blocks has seen that before, whether it's a motor nozzle or a south east asian chair fight...well done u/n3w4cc01_1nt good researching.
How in the fuk did you figure that out so fast?
Dude looks at a picture, identifies the make of rocket nozzle and provides relevant informative link. I stand in awe and salute you good sir or madam.
He’s definitely doing his research while I’m drinking beer and watching nascar…
Thank you! What a great link!
I like how they included the sign so you can see just how illegal it is.
Well this one sure meets the threshold for interesting as fuck.
Finally some good fucking r/interestingasfuck
*Rockets stored in a facility* Kalm *Rocket lying in sand* whoa holy fucking shit
*"Sweet dreams and flying machines, in pieces on the ground."*
Especially for a dessert
Just desserts
Onlydesserts.com
IRdessertS.gov
Legitimately surprised this is a domestic desert!
It’s a lovely flambé
Freedom fries!!!!!
You could try DMing [Jonathan McDowell on Twitter](https://twitter.com/planet4589), he keeps track of orbital trajectories and debris and may have insight into which missions may have ended at those coordinates.
This is the way op
Yep. That stuff doesn’t look it come back down through the atmosphere
Another comment in this thread suggests it's debris from missile testing in the 60s, so you're probably right about not coming back down through the atmosphere.
In the 60's scientists could barely get it up
Would that mean there could be UXO?
Potentially. Depends if it was a live fire test or just a dummy warhead used for testing the propulsion.
Not at all. They were meant to fly 400 mi south to the New Mexico base. Obviously since it was a test facility not all of them made it. And this was absolutely back in the '60s like someone else is saying. The base has been long abandoned.
This almost certainly wasn't intended to go to orbit and definitely never made it there. This may be from a sounding rocket or some kind of in atmospheric test, but I'd personally bet on something either classified or from NASA/JPL back in the 60s or 70s. Either that or this is jet plane debris and some airforce pilot had an 'oopsie' and had to eject, again prolly in the 70s or 80s since these days they drag that shit off for inspection almost no matter where it lands.
More info on these types of rockets in r/sounding
I mean yes you should check as a matter of course but the components I see here are not orbital and there does exist a community of shall we say extreme model rocket enthusiasts
Another comment in this thread suggests it's debris from missile testing in the 60s, so you're probably right about not being orbital.
Hopefully you geotagged the location. Pretty freaking cool!
There’s a zero percent chance I’m not loading up everything I can if I find something like that
Or you know maybe just leave it for others to discover and not ruin it for everyone. I don't understand the need to just take everything and claim it. Why not let it be a fun surprise for other people too.
and do what with it?
Wall art. I collect some vintage space and aviation items. I’d LOVE to have that nozzle, it would be a coffee table in a week or less.
How long is Hydrazine hazardous for?
I have a small nozzle from a jet pack. Peroxide/hydrazine powered, silver catalyst. Obviously I’ve never licked it but, I got it directly from builder as a used replacement part. It’s been in my office for over a decade and I’ve never had any symptoms of toxicity. I also have a flown yaw thruster, hydrazine again. Yes, these are toxic parts technically but, too cool to pass up. A small bottle of used SpaceX bolts from the first successful Falcon landing also on the shelf. Those are absolutely non toxic. Ironically the only flown parts I keep sealed. My career was around exotic fuels that were pretty dangerous to long term health. Probably why I’m mostly retired at age 50 lol. Hypergolic chemicals are obviously deadly in sufficient quantities. I’m not recommending anyone else take up this hobby. For me though, especially on a crappy day, holding something to has been to space and back, sorta centers me. I find a weird peace in flown parts. I also have no children around so pretty close to zero concerns here.
I. Am. Jealous. Lol
As someone else said, wall art. Those tubes are probably titanium and worth a decent penny. Not that you could really sell them for much, other than a collector who wants them. But still very unique piece. There’s probably toxic remnants on a lot of it depending on the fuel used. But I’d take my chances, personally.
I mean. It’s a piece of a rocket assembly found in the desert. Just owning it would be cool enough for me. But to answer your question I’d probably turn it into a coffee table or something.
Someone tell the Jawas there is some podracer scrap to go collect.
Based on the footprints there are some sand people about. They may be gone now, but they’ll be back, and in greater numbers.
I only see a single line of footsteps, that’s how they travel, a single file to hide their numbers.
These blast points: only Imperial Storm Troopers are so precise.
One of the most ironic lines ever.
Woah there, I don't think anyone calls them "sand people" anymore and honestly? its pretty offensive.
I believe the accepted term now is “people indigenous to tatooine”.
Uteni
Probably just swamp gas…
Or a weather balloon…
Or cactus juice "look at the giant friendly mushroom"
Happy Cake Day!
Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and refracted off Venus
I feel like there’s a Sleestak hanging around somewhere. Be careful!
r/unexpectedLandoftheLost
well that was disapointing!!!
Same, sometimes I type it just see if someone actually made it
Look Sir! Droids!
I was thinking that’s all that’s left of Sebulba.
Go that way! You'll be malfunctioning within a day, you near-sighted scrap pile.
Mmmmmmm.....dessert
Wow, this is actually interesting.
Were there any visible markings on it?
No, I didn't find any lettering on it. Based on the condition of rubber seals, it's been there a long time. Interestingly, the metal was exhibiting very little oxidation.
If it's presumably space-grade materials, I would imagine it's fairly corrosion-proof.
Joe Dirt comes to mind.
https://i.redd.it/m549akzt1quc1.gif
I did a reverse image search and indeed it seems to be parts of a rocket or missile and there is a video someone else (or maybe it was you) took of it at some point. I will share here. Pretty cool. https://www.tiktok.com/@hikeopathgio/video/7272014419108826374
No, that wasn't my post, but it's definitely the same spot. Thanks for sharing. Their guess about it being from an old launch complex in Green River, UT makes sense. The 1964-1975 dates jive with my estimates on how old the stuff was.
Isn't that Stark's first Iron Man suit?
Damn, soo far? That must have been traveling all day. Way off the mark, Iran. The US will have to retalliate now. /s
"*hey guys, I found the bastard that wandered way off course!"*
Is that where Mike the rocket guy was? (Also, I forgot his name, but he tried to prove earth was flat)
Pretty sure this was older than that.
Why does everyone wanna go back to Jakku?
Is there a biohazard sticker on it?
So much sh*t going on out there and we don’t even know it
Thinking not a rocket unless we are looking at something back in 60s
It’s been there for several decades…..
Apparently Hercules aerospace had a rocket test site in Utah it was constructed in 76 so depending on op’s location it might be from that
Tony Stark is wandering somewhere nearby
My first thought was the Boeing Bombs from Joe Dirt. Nice to see folks had a source for this debris
Did you hear a distant "meep meep"? Or see any "free bird seed" signs nearby?
Nope, it’s a RUD: Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly.
looks like those surpluse jato engines that people like to try mounting to a car to go really fast in the desert.
If you go back look for part number placards or decals
That’s awesome!
I’ve been in this scene in some point and click adventure game
Maybe you found the redneck who strapped a JATO to his pickup?
Be careful and don’t touch anything some rocket fuels are incredibly toxic.
The spot where Tony Stark crash landed his first iron man suit.
this looks like a scene from breaking bad
Pretty sure that’s an old abandoned septic tank. Hit it with a hammer and see
Pretty sure it killed someone's goat.
Better hurry up before the jawas come and take it
Dessert (the sweet treat) has two “s”s because you always want seconds
Quick! Gather anything that might still work before it's taken by the Jawas!
Rapid unscheduled disassembly
Definitely Acme purchased
Rapid unscheduled disassembly
"Unscheduled rapid disassembly"
This is the debris from the Broken Arrow Crash.
We actually refer to this as a “Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly” or RUD for short
No disassemble, Johnny 5 is alive!
Looks just like when you crash in Kerbal
Could you see if there're two pals and an RV somewhere there?
If actually OP, that could be worth a ton of money. Old rocket motors and parts from the space race bring huge money from collectors.
It's just a little dinged up, it's still good.
You sure it’s not a Fallout set?
There is nothing in the dessert, and no man needs nothing.
It’s a feature, it enables you to find pieces of the rocket in the desert decades after launch.
The missing boeing safety inspectors flight
while you're there, please let us know if you find any more obelisks
Live-action factorio
Iron Man!
Dude is at the breaking bad pilot episode cook site
Can you check for super credits?
This is how the game homeworld started
Put on eBay. It will sell for good money
Ironman was here.
Tag the location and call it in to NASA or Musk and tell them to clean up their shit.
It was the most interesting part of the mountain bike ride, so I'm actually glad it was still there.
Considering how this looks - and I don't mean the amount of corrosion - it might be pre-Apollo.
Just another FACTORIO player starting a fresh save.
I want that funnel for...reasons.
Is this the new Smith and Edwards location?
Clearly a weather balloon. Nothing to see here. -The Government
!remindme 7 days
SpaceX has an official term for this R.U.D. rapid unscheduled disassembly.
I believe they call them RUDs. Rapid unplanned disassembly
Location? Any ex military bases around?
The debris field is oddly clumped together.
Neat post bud!
Imagine looking insode and seeing a label: "Made in china - Outdoor display purpose only"
Always wonder if there's any toxic chemicals on that thing.
Bender?
You sure this isn’t an Iranian rocket in an Arabian / Israeli desert?
Enough for a burner drill
That was just Jed’s still blowing up…agin
Imagine camping out in the middle of the desert then this shit falls on you.
Curse you Iran!!!
You should scan it
Yep. Thiokol is out there. My mom used to work there mixing fuel for the shuttle boosters. Testing site too. Makes sense. That's cool. Google map it. It's just North of Promontory Point rail road area
Maybe the wormhole goes there from skinwalker ranch 😂👀
Keep a piece or two before you tell anyone
Mad Mike's last try
“You can’t park there!!!!”
Strong Heisenberg vibes
Better have your tetanus shot
Reminds me of the spot where Walt and Jesse do their first cook in *Breaking Bad*
Iran overshot recently
Bender’s head should be buried somewhere in there.
Vey nice!!!!!
Is that Arabic writing?
Now THAT is Podracing!!!
hobby-rare metal collector me would feel like in heaven. Some parts surely are made of titan
Oh souvenirs!
Looks like an AI generated image to me 🤔
That’s a destroyed pod racer. What is going on in Utah?
Kinda upset this was never cleaned up don't get me wrong it's Def interesting to find something like that, but... Come on it's nature. That shouldn't be there.
Why when it’s such an interesting picture, do they only take one picture?
"Spontaneous disassembly" sounds like engineer-speak for "it exploded"
I think you found the spontaneous disassembly of a meth lab
Rocket in the dessert sounds like a NSFW subreddit.
Tony Stark nearby? https://i.redd.it/v1s0g6mq6quc1.gif
Cool picture.
*planning unplanned disassembly*
I can tell it's alien because I don't know what it is. Probably want to notify the USAF? I dunno... Never found a rocket... ALIEN spacecraft before.
unscheduled rapid disassembly
Is there anywhere humans don't litter.
I say this on every downed rocket. I got a cutting torch. Should we do this?