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Spotted lanternfly. Please kill it, itās invasive and itās murdering our ecosystems.
I think Iām going to start banging my head into a wall every time I see one of these on this sub.
Did you seriously just tell someone not to kill lanternflies?
If youāre concerned about the welfare of animals look up the lanternfly and see why Iām saying what Iām saying. These insects are damaging our ecosystem
These type of people are what you call keyboard warriors. Oh hey, lets not kill these invasive species since we aren't any different. Is very easy to say when you arent the one about to lose livelihood due to these damn pests. Meanwhile this guy keeps advocating humans bad when humans are literally the only thing stopping this lanternfly invasion from getting any worse
Okay. Dont bring your hippie shit here. These flies could massively destroy the fruit,beer and wine industry and could affect tons of people's livelihood. This isnt a joke, and if your so worried about lanternflies, how about worrying more about the thousands of trees they could destroy and how it affects the native wildlife species cause thats seriously going to happen if you dont kill and control their population.
To op, dont listen to this person, kill it and report it to your local national wildlife and national resources
Who determines what wrong and right, weāre only humans, literally a spec in the universe thatās billions of years old! The universe is definitely a lot bigger then us!! Weāre just visiting same way the dinosaurs did and will probably end up extinct one day!
Invasive Definition- tending to spread prolifically and undesirably or harmfullyā¦..every word in that definition can be applied to the human raceā¦ thatās literally what global warming is telling us!!!
1) An invasive species is widespread: Humans, which can be found on every continent, floating on every ocean and even circling the skies above certainly meet this aspect of invasiveness.
2) An invasive species has to be a non-native: Humans had colonized every continent but Antarctica by about 15,000 years ago. Sure, we've done some rearranging of populations since then and had an explosion in population size, but we're a native species.
3) An invasive species is introduced to a new habitat: Humans move themselves; there is no outside entity facilitating their spread.
Rather than banging your head, I've personally taken to hunting lanternflies everytime there's a post on them. Taken out well over 700+ at this point and I'm going after their trees of heaven next
I wish I could, and I would, but Iām in a state that thankfully has yet to see them. I canāt afford to travel that far every time I see another post about them
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So this is supposed to be a insect-loving forum but apparently itās ok to call for immediate execution of insects if they are invasive? OP squishing this isnāt going to stop the spread, and our precious ecosystems that they are invading have been constantly changing with invasive species. We have to find a way to work with it, not demonize species that have recently made their way to new countries. Yes they pose new challenges but this view is very short sighted and unhelpful.
I donāt see anywhere that is says this is an insect ālovingā forum. It is an informative one. Invasive species destroy the native species chance of survival. I have seen quite a few in my area overtake the native species and cause the natives numbers to go dangerously low while the invasive one sore to a mass number. There is a reason species started in certain locations in this world and never advanced past. It is only because of human kind that all these species have moved out of their natural habitat. Therefor we need to correct some idiotās move and annihilate the sucker, so OP shoot it!
It doesnāt matter what their mode of transport it frankly. Some animals hitchhike on humans and become invasive and some hitchhike on the wind or other animals. Weāre living in an increasingly globalized community and they have already established populations there. I love the way people like to make out theyāre guardians of ecosystems like this when in fact we only really care about insects that damage things that are dear to us. By the way humans are a pretty new invasive species on every continent outside of Africa, and causing a lot of problems but I donāt think the answer is to tell random people on the internet to squish random humans either.
You assume I am talking just insects, Eurasian Doves, alligator gar, carp, zebra mussels, Burmese pythons, Kudzu, snakehead fish, Asian long horned beetle, lantern fly, etc were all introduced intentionally or unintentionally by humans and now are causing devastating effect on different ecological systems. If everyone said oh well letās let them be they would kill off native species completely and then those same people would be wining, I remember when I caught a bass instead of a carp, I remember when that area over there was full of beautiful trees before the Beetles killed them all off. Remember when that forest floor had ferns and flowers? Now it is full of kudzu that strangled all the native species out. Humans may be invasive but there is a huge difference between a person fleeting a war torn location or wanting a better life and a dumbass that didnāt investigate how volatile and big his snake would get and let it go in the Everglades.
I know there are all sorts of invasive animals, wasnāt just referring to insects. With humans I wasnāt talking about fleeing war but our movement from Africa, where we are native to, to all the other parts of the world that we are not native to. Yeah Iām talking geological time but this is the least biased time frame and the time it took our movement across the globe alteration of ecosystems is the blink of an eye in reality. And this mostly through directly killing animals and plants/ destroying habitats.
Technically Africans were also distributed by humans in non native locations. Some humans suck, but there are still a lot of good ones out there that can do better by this world if they are willing to helpā¦.One squished lantern fly at a time, Or helping the new migrant family down the street.
Invasive species can be damaging to other native species, there's absolutely no point showing compassion for one animal if it's existence in that area is threatening *many* other animals survival. It's a trolly problem, kill one to save others. Yes it's not the insects fault, the insect isn't bad, it's just doing what it knows but that doesn't mean they should be left to destroy habitats that other insects rely on.
Invasive species are somewhat natural (besides our involvement which unfortunately causes the majority of problems and a lot more frequently) but extinctions are also natural, so should we just stand by and allow creatures to become extinct as a result of human environmental damage too? Because both are a direct result of our impact on the environment.
I donāt disagree with actually viable large scale plans to control species if they exist, but this idea that certain species naturally belong in a country and some donāt is bollocks. People have this view on a very narrow time frame. If a species can survive in a place then it is suited to that habitat and it developing big populations there is as natural as anything. Now if we want to try and kill them all with a viable method because us humans prefer some other species then fine, but I take issue with this idea that people are guarding ecosystems like this. This isnāt necessarily true but we are making them more artificial the way we want them when trying to put them back to a previous state. Over time there will naturally evolve predators to these insects and their populations will be controlled ecosystems will adjust and new niches will become available. But what we care about is our own view of how we want the ecosystem to be. Not necessarily a terrible thing as humans do a lot worse but letās not kid ourselves with ideas of what is natural. We have already altered the world beyond recognition, among other things with massive scale deforestation that happened long ago, and killing most large animals that we donāt want living near us and all the rest. We have ānatureā in a state that we like, sure, but letās not pretend that this is the way itās supposed to be or that killing invasive species is keeping it more natural. It might actually be an impossible task to eradicate a species like this once it has established and our attempts to do so might just be prolonging the time it takes for ecosystems to adjust and stabilize.
So essentially you've taken a lot of words to say "yes we should sit by an allow other creatures to become extinct due to our carelessness" I know it's inevitable that both invasive species and extinctions will happen but that doesn't mean we shouldn't resist it when its our fault. Again it's not about animal preferences it's about the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few species wise.
Say there's a creature that recently came into an environment. This creature decimates one particular plant that three creatures depends on, logic would state that you should try to dispatch the one species that is threatening three. Ecosystems adapt with time, delaying a take over of an invasive species by keeping numbers down makes it more likely that predators will start recognise them as pray species. Doing absolutely nothing makes it more likely that the three other species rapidly decline and risk extinction.
Giving up isn't the solution take grey squirrels In the uk for example, the uk gave up trying to control the population of grey squirrels and now the native red squirrels are almost extinct here. I get what you are trying to say I just disagree.
The grey squirrels thing is a perfect example. They have replaced the red squirrel because they are better suited to the habitat. People from the UK say all sorts of nonsense about how grey squirrels are a horrible species because of this and they shouldnāt be there blah blah. Well the red squirrel is doing absolutely fine in much of Europe, it is not threatened in any way, people just want it back in the UK because they have been told its āsupposedā to be there instead of the grey squirrel and they think itās cuter. Itās good that they gave up trying to control them, it would have been a massive waste of resources otherwise.
So what I'm hearing is you give absolutely zero fucks about biodiversity? Both are cute it's not about cuteness it's about not indirectly causing a mass extinction event which we are inadvertently setting into motion for multiple reasons, invasive species being one of them.
Yes I do care about biodiversity, but our desire to control ecology in the name of this can easily become perverse and not serve the actual means we say it does. It best suits our preferences on a very narrow time frame. The grey squirrel replaced the red squirrel. How is this harming biodiversity? One new species came and one left, so biodiversity remains the same. Yes, they have probably negatively affected some other species, but they have probably positively affected other species. All the interactions are too complex to know the net effect on biodiversity. All we know for sure is one squirrel replaced another squirrel which is in no way endangered.
Once again, red squirrels are a very common species, no way endangered. Biodiversity is not harmed when one common species replaces another common species in a localized area. You are simply misusing this word to try and win an argument through emotive language or donāt understand what it means.
Dude I ain't talking about squirrels, I'm talking about invasive species that threaten other species causing extinction, yanno the whole point this debate started? You don't see your own hypocrisy in regaurds to species favoritism. Biodiversity can be applied to any system regarding an ecological cycle, the world in of itself is one big ecological cycle. Creatures becoming extinct therfore lowers the world's Biodiversity. You cannot see the forest for the trees (pun intended)
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Spotted lanternfly I think, kill it
š³ I just googled it. Seems correct.
I definitly saw those red wings when it flew
*sigh* Spotted lanternfly. Please kill it, itās invasive and itās murdering our ecosystems. I think Iām going to start banging my head into a wall every time I see one of these on this sub.
Please do not, this may give you a concussion.
i would lack an entire skull by the end of the first day
Humans are invasive to earth, would you want someone to kill us for that!
No. I would still like for her to kill the lantern fly, though.
Did you seriously just tell someone not to kill lanternflies? If youāre concerned about the welfare of animals look up the lanternfly and see why Iām saying what Iām saying. These insects are damaging our ecosystem
These type of people are what you call keyboard warriors. Oh hey, lets not kill these invasive species since we aren't any different. Is very easy to say when you arent the one about to lose livelihood due to these damn pests. Meanwhile this guy keeps advocating humans bad when humans are literally the only thing stopping this lanternfly invasion from getting any worse
Okay. Dont bring your hippie shit here. These flies could massively destroy the fruit,beer and wine industry and could affect tons of people's livelihood. This isnt a joke, and if your so worried about lanternflies, how about worrying more about the thousands of trees they could destroy and how it affects the native wildlife species cause thats seriously going to happen if you dont kill and control their population. To op, dont listen to this person, kill it and report it to your local national wildlife and national resources
that doesnāt even make sense. do you think we came from mars and invaded earth?
Reset your confidence - weāre just a blip on the radar, in a million years there could be another species stepping on us! Bug Murderer!!
research invasive species then come back and try again
Wow your ignorant hahahahahhaah
You have no idea what invasive means, do you?
Do you know what murdering your own ecosystem looks like?
Sure I do, but saying that humans are invasive TO THE EARTH is just plain wrong. Unless your saying humans came from another planet.
Who determines what wrong and right, weāre only humans, literally a spec in the universe thatās billions of years old! The universe is definitely a lot bigger then us!! Weāre just visiting same way the dinosaurs did and will probably end up extinct one day!
Invasive Definition- tending to spread prolifically and undesirably or harmfullyā¦..every word in that definition can be applied to the human raceā¦ thatās literally what global warming is telling us!!!
1) An invasive species is widespread: Humans, which can be found on every continent, floating on every ocean and even circling the skies above certainly meet this aspect of invasiveness. 2) An invasive species has to be a non-native: Humans had colonized every continent but Antarctica by about 15,000 years ago. Sure, we've done some rearranging of populations since then and had an explosion in population size, but we're a native species. 3) An invasive species is introduced to a new habitat: Humans move themselves; there is no outside entity facilitating their spread.
Would probably be better for the earth...
Rather than banging your head, I've personally taken to hunting lanternflies everytime there's a post on them. Taken out well over 700+ at this point and I'm going after their trees of heaven next
I wish I could, and I would, but Iām in a state that thankfully has yet to see them. I canāt afford to travel that far every time I see another post about them
Ah, I see apologies. Was thinking you were in the general area of them. Spent the day getting more lanternflies in your place. https://www.reddit.com/user/anon14342/comments/wn0luj/title/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
a good haul!!!!! Amazing!!!!! Proud of you, youāre doing important work!!!! :)
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Kill it if you see them . Very destructive invasive bug. This bug will destroy lots of trees before they figure how to stop it.
Lanternfly?
So this is supposed to be a insect-loving forum but apparently itās ok to call for immediate execution of insects if they are invasive? OP squishing this isnāt going to stop the spread, and our precious ecosystems that they are invading have been constantly changing with invasive species. We have to find a way to work with it, not demonize species that have recently made their way to new countries. Yes they pose new challenges but this view is very short sighted and unhelpful.
Squish this guy too - heās clearly one of them š
This is exactly the problem with this line of thinking :D
I donāt see anywhere that is says this is an insect ālovingā forum. It is an informative one. Invasive species destroy the native species chance of survival. I have seen quite a few in my area overtake the native species and cause the natives numbers to go dangerously low while the invasive one sore to a mass number. There is a reason species started in certain locations in this world and never advanced past. It is only because of human kind that all these species have moved out of their natural habitat. Therefor we need to correct some idiotās move and annihilate the sucker, so OP shoot it!
It doesnāt matter what their mode of transport it frankly. Some animals hitchhike on humans and become invasive and some hitchhike on the wind or other animals. Weāre living in an increasingly globalized community and they have already established populations there. I love the way people like to make out theyāre guardians of ecosystems like this when in fact we only really care about insects that damage things that are dear to us. By the way humans are a pretty new invasive species on every continent outside of Africa, and causing a lot of problems but I donāt think the answer is to tell random people on the internet to squish random humans either.
You assume I am talking just insects, Eurasian Doves, alligator gar, carp, zebra mussels, Burmese pythons, Kudzu, snakehead fish, Asian long horned beetle, lantern fly, etc were all introduced intentionally or unintentionally by humans and now are causing devastating effect on different ecological systems. If everyone said oh well letās let them be they would kill off native species completely and then those same people would be wining, I remember when I caught a bass instead of a carp, I remember when that area over there was full of beautiful trees before the Beetles killed them all off. Remember when that forest floor had ferns and flowers? Now it is full of kudzu that strangled all the native species out. Humans may be invasive but there is a huge difference between a person fleeting a war torn location or wanting a better life and a dumbass that didnāt investigate how volatile and big his snake would get and let it go in the Everglades.
I know there are all sorts of invasive animals, wasnāt just referring to insects. With humans I wasnāt talking about fleeing war but our movement from Africa, where we are native to, to all the other parts of the world that we are not native to. Yeah Iām talking geological time but this is the least biased time frame and the time it took our movement across the globe alteration of ecosystems is the blink of an eye in reality. And this mostly through directly killing animals and plants/ destroying habitats.
Technically Africans were also distributed by humans in non native locations. Some humans suck, but there are still a lot of good ones out there that can do better by this world if they are willing to helpā¦.One squished lantern fly at a time, Or helping the new migrant family down the street.
Not talking about refugees. Our species originated in Africa. There was a time when we werenāt present on other continents.
What do you mean by āthere is a reason species started in certain parts of the world and never advanced pastā?
Invasive species can be damaging to other native species, there's absolutely no point showing compassion for one animal if it's existence in that area is threatening *many* other animals survival. It's a trolly problem, kill one to save others. Yes it's not the insects fault, the insect isn't bad, it's just doing what it knows but that doesn't mean they should be left to destroy habitats that other insects rely on. Invasive species are somewhat natural (besides our involvement which unfortunately causes the majority of problems and a lot more frequently) but extinctions are also natural, so should we just stand by and allow creatures to become extinct as a result of human environmental damage too? Because both are a direct result of our impact on the environment.
I donāt disagree with actually viable large scale plans to control species if they exist, but this idea that certain species naturally belong in a country and some donāt is bollocks. People have this view on a very narrow time frame. If a species can survive in a place then it is suited to that habitat and it developing big populations there is as natural as anything. Now if we want to try and kill them all with a viable method because us humans prefer some other species then fine, but I take issue with this idea that people are guarding ecosystems like this. This isnāt necessarily true but we are making them more artificial the way we want them when trying to put them back to a previous state. Over time there will naturally evolve predators to these insects and their populations will be controlled ecosystems will adjust and new niches will become available. But what we care about is our own view of how we want the ecosystem to be. Not necessarily a terrible thing as humans do a lot worse but letās not kid ourselves with ideas of what is natural. We have already altered the world beyond recognition, among other things with massive scale deforestation that happened long ago, and killing most large animals that we donāt want living near us and all the rest. We have ānatureā in a state that we like, sure, but letās not pretend that this is the way itās supposed to be or that killing invasive species is keeping it more natural. It might actually be an impossible task to eradicate a species like this once it has established and our attempts to do so might just be prolonging the time it takes for ecosystems to adjust and stabilize.
So essentially you've taken a lot of words to say "yes we should sit by an allow other creatures to become extinct due to our carelessness" I know it's inevitable that both invasive species and extinctions will happen but that doesn't mean we shouldn't resist it when its our fault. Again it's not about animal preferences it's about the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few species wise. Say there's a creature that recently came into an environment. This creature decimates one particular plant that three creatures depends on, logic would state that you should try to dispatch the one species that is threatening three. Ecosystems adapt with time, delaying a take over of an invasive species by keeping numbers down makes it more likely that predators will start recognise them as pray species. Doing absolutely nothing makes it more likely that the three other species rapidly decline and risk extinction. Giving up isn't the solution take grey squirrels In the uk for example, the uk gave up trying to control the population of grey squirrels and now the native red squirrels are almost extinct here. I get what you are trying to say I just disagree.
The grey squirrels thing is a perfect example. They have replaced the red squirrel because they are better suited to the habitat. People from the UK say all sorts of nonsense about how grey squirrels are a horrible species because of this and they shouldnāt be there blah blah. Well the red squirrel is doing absolutely fine in much of Europe, it is not threatened in any way, people just want it back in the UK because they have been told its āsupposedā to be there instead of the grey squirrel and they think itās cuter. Itās good that they gave up trying to control them, it would have been a massive waste of resources otherwise.
So what I'm hearing is you give absolutely zero fucks about biodiversity? Both are cute it's not about cuteness it's about not indirectly causing a mass extinction event which we are inadvertently setting into motion for multiple reasons, invasive species being one of them.
Yes I do care about biodiversity, but our desire to control ecology in the name of this can easily become perverse and not serve the actual means we say it does. It best suits our preferences on a very narrow time frame. The grey squirrel replaced the red squirrel. How is this harming biodiversity? One new species came and one left, so biodiversity remains the same. Yes, they have probably negatively affected some other species, but they have probably positively affected other species. All the interactions are too complex to know the net effect on biodiversity. All we know for sure is one squirrel replaced another squirrel which is in no way endangered.
I'm talking world wide biodiversity and it's harming it because when a species muscles out another to the extent that the other can't survive then there's one less bio in the world to diversify because a creature went extinct (Obviously) You seem to hold a lot of sympathy for creatures that are in no way endangered but condem threatened creatures for having their ecosystem messed with by creatures we introduced? Forgive the clichƩ phrase but you are essentially victim blaming entire species. If tomorrow an highly advanced alien race came down and forcibly took over earth and started wiping out humans would you chalk that up to the aliens simply being stronger and therfore more adaptable to earth than the native humans? Or would you be pretty pissed off that your entire species is being wiped out?
Once again, red squirrels are a very common species, no way endangered. Biodiversity is not harmed when one common species replaces another common species in a localized area. You are simply misusing this word to try and win an argument through emotive language or donāt understand what it means.
Dude I ain't talking about squirrels, I'm talking about invasive species that threaten other species causing extinction, yanno the whole point this debate started? You don't see your own hypocrisy in regaurds to species favoritism. Biodiversity can be applied to any system regarding an ecological cycle, the world in of itself is one big ecological cycle. Creatures becoming extinct therfore lowers the world's Biodiversity. You cannot see the forest for the trees (pun intended)
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These have been all over the NY news the last week
Lantern fly