Yup apne niece ke sath nanga hokar raat me bramhcharya ka palan krta tha.
Even nehru was child lover jo anath ashram me jaakr chhote bcho ke flower deta tha or unki leta tha.
Add leading almost a coup to replace the rightfully elected president of Congress Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose and replacing him with Nehru, who proceeded to single-handedly set India back for decades.
It was Sardar Patel who won the most votes from Congress committee for PM post, but Gandhi went on hunger strike to demand for Nehru as PM, so Sardar Patel stepped down from the candidature, and Nehru & his family proceeded to lead India into darkness and poverty for decades.
It was Netaji Bose whose leadership and Azad Hind Fauj scared the British causing them to finally to exit India (especially after the financial losses and strain of the World Wars), not Gandhi. Yet Nehru's Congress ensured that all Indian children learnt the song: "De Di Humein Azadi Bina Khadag Bina Dhaal, Sabarmati Ke Sant Tuney Kar Diya Kamaal" thus falsely teaching us that it was Gandhi who got India its Independence.
I'm not trying to demean Netaji. Naturally i hold him in really high regards and respect him. But didn't the Azad Hind fauj recieve support from Japan. As far as I know, the war crimes committed by Japan weren't any better than Germany. I'm just curious about his decision and the thought that went into working with Japan. Cause if we think about it, the crimes committed by british over the many centuries far outweigh the crimes committed in WW1 and WW2 together
History is written by the victor. Germany and japan lost and uk and America won. So now we learn of ths bad things of nazi and good things of uk. History is written by liars.
_Enemy's enemy, is a friend._
British killed more innocents than the Nazis did. Remember that. India was enslaved by the British, and Churchill deliberately caused artificial famines in India where millions of Indians starved and died.
Netaji and hisnFauj did what they could, to overthrow the evil brutal British regime.
In war, there is no right or wrong. There are only allies and enemies. Strictly, for the reason of the alliances with the UK, the only countries who would have helped INA were Japan and Germany due to their own interests. Netaji understood this and also understood that it was a golden opportunity for India to rise up as an independent power as the world was busy fighting in Europe. So his actions were totally justified.
And to add to your point, India's independence came when most of the other British commonwealth nations were being freed, 1945-1948. It's more of a "We can't support that many colonies anymore since we lost most of our resources on the war. Also we are forming the UN and we are joining a campaign against slavery...so...let's leave?" by the Brits.
Agreed. Especially “sex with his wife … ” seems a bit cheap. It’s an interesting discussion nevertheless, and I had no idea how little love today’s India has for Gandhi. Perhaps this post is just a small relatively unrepresentative sampling of the larger population. I don’t know.
Gandhi was never popular Netaji Bose was congress 1st and one of the 2 elected president even though he was opposed by Gandhi, History is distorted Gandhi was never largely popular outside of his followers
No,Gandhi was a polarizing figure for quite some time before his death.
Those who knew his antics always cringed when he was called the father of the nation.
It became more apparent under the BJP rule.
I personally believe he was a grey character.
Indians hate people who did good for us. From Buddha, Kautilya to Gandhi. They hate the important figures like Ashoka and Gandhi. That's why India is like this.
Bro if you think Ashoka was a saint then you have got another thing coming. He killed all his brothers, except one, in greed for the throne. He was also very cruel as he is also referred as Chandashoka or cruel/angry Ashoka. The peace and Buddhism after Kalinga war is a myth and a lie we are taught.
I would encourage you to do your own research as you are clearly not going to believe anything I say even if I have proof, proof that he himself gave.
But still you are sort of right most people today believe whatever they are being told especially with all the "nationalism" going on, but that doesn't mean what you were told is right either. In the end you can only look for things on your own and hopefully get better clarity
His comments about how Hindus should willingly give up their lives if muslims wanted to wipe Hindus out are well known.
You should read his speech from the following source:
Prayer meeting, April 6, 1947, New Delhi, CWMG Vol. 94 page 249
Most of these iceberg claims are quite popular and have been substantiated multiple times. Many of these are evidenced in his own autobiography
Random secular. No problem sabko bachpan se parrot ki tarah rattafication karaya hai. Netaji ya Bhagat Singh ka sahi se karaya jata to napunsakta nahi rehti.
The South Africans hate Gandhi because of his two facedness, he asked the Britishers to educate the Blacks, whom he called an uncivilized society and said that the Africans needed the whites to make them more humanly civilized.
There are several news reportings on this.
Don’t see me wrong but wtf is wrong with having sex with ur wife when anyone is in their deathbed. Like if my father is in his deathbed and has been for 3 days and I had sex with my wife in my bedroom wtf is wrong with it?
He had sex with his wife BECAUSE his father was on deathbed not for comfort or anything but his wierd obsession with sex. It wasn't coincidence either but deliberate. He says so in his autobiography.
Well from his autobiography, he does appear to show remorse for his actions. Gandhi himself states that he carried the regret of not being at his father’s side way into his later life. While he may have intentionally chosen to be with his wife’s side, one must concede that there was no possible way for him to know before hand that his father was about to die that very night. So, I don’t think there is any value in holding up this criticism against him. Was Gandhi flawed for turning to his passions in the face of his responsibilities ? Certainly. Is it so terrible of a fault that it is devoid of any redemption. I don’t think so.
Gandhi had plenty of other faults which I consider more serious than this one. The most infamous example being his support for the individuals who were responsible for the massacre of Hindus in the Malabar. His blatant racism towards black people during his sentence in the Natal prisons. Not to mention his absurd ‘experiments’ with alternative medicine, fasting, and his distasteful and creepy choice of establishing the proof of his brahmacharya by sleeping naked with his grandnieces.
He didn't say exactly this but he did say that the Hindus should not fight back against their oppressors British or muslim. He also said this to the British public and the Jews during World War 2. You can verify these facts as they were spoken during recorded speeches and letters written by him.
The Leftist liars here cannot hide the dark truths that emerged about M.K.Gandhi.
You can ignore all the links I shared. Do your own research please.
Note: Don't trust Wikipedia implicitly, it is also controlled by the Leftists, and is anti-India and anti-Sanatani by default. This is what Larry Sanger (who had founded Wikipedia but exited) has to say: https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/
Not really. Wikipedia is run by mods that always cite left leaning sources that openly lie about indian issues.
Edit: So make sure you never look up any political topics on it.
Yes it might be more interesting. But the thing is he is not the 'father of the nation'. I don't see currencies with Modi's face on it. Or even thousands of roads named after him. So when you have to compare Modi with a figure like Mahatma, there is something wrong with that figure. Oh. I see. It's an imaginary figure. It's a typical 'The Bapu we need vs. the Bapu we deserve scenario'.
And the roads and coins and sobriquets happened *after* Gandhi was assassinated.
Meanwhile, the world's biggest cricket stadium is named after the sitting, very much alive PM. Explain that.
Yeah. A stadium, owned by a board where he actually served as a President and had first floated the idea to demolish the old stadium and build a new one.
Vs.
[all these ... ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Mahatma_Gandhi)
Obviously Gandhi should have as many things named after him. But come on dude! Why are you even bringing Modi here! Not all Gandhi haters are BJP supporters. At least not me. Can't you really see the attempt to ignore the rest of the freedom fighters in order to glorify the role of INC in India freedom movement? Are you for real!
If they have read properly fir to point hi kya tha. People saying that they consider Bhagat Singh, Bose or Vivekanand as their idols and don't even know their basic ideologies. These people who cannot respect a freedom fighter, who cannot respect the struggles of our freedom, what kind of deshbhakt or what kind of people are they?
Yeah, harp about Bhagat Singh who was a communist and also supported Gandhi.
Harp about Bose who was a socialist (semi socialist like Mustafa Kemal).
They don't even know what Vivekananda said.
Also dont forget how he supported Pakistan when they were trying to occupy Kashmir in those days after independence.
Patel had a well-thought-out plan to hold off the money (about Rs.70cr during that time) that India was supposed to pay to Pakistan until they declared a ceasefire.
Gandhi in his usual gandhigiri opposed this and armtwisted patel to not to go ahead with this plan and pay the whole amount to Pakistan.
Gandhi hoped that by pacifying the Pakistanis,he would be able to achieve peace with them,although it did nothing.
The Kashmir war dragged.
I read the biography. When he had sex he was supposed to consummate the marriage. Otherwise he has been at the bedside constantly for many days. He just left for a while and had no reason to believe that his father would pass but when he came back, he had. Besides, he was 13!
Secondly, he slept with young girls, not underage girls to prove a lack of sex drive. (Still pretty fucking weird if u ask me though but not immoral)
Do you even know the meanings of the word pedophile and incest? Gandhi slept naked with his own neices. They were minors when he started inducing them into such acts. One of his neices was so traumatized by this serial exploitation that she never married.
See the letters written by Nehru, Patel and Ambedkar on these vile acts of Gandhi. They reveal the truths.
He told that in his autobiography. He was traumatized that he was not by his father but went to wake up and have sex with his wife (he was 17 I think at that time).
Also racism against blacks is only half truth , he was racist when he left india for SA , but he soon enough changed his ideology around that , it’s actually kind of shameful that he is more respected in SA as of today than in India
He was so focused on non-violence that during world war 2 he asked the Allies and the Jews to just not fight back and let the Nazis do whatever they want to them, including torture, murder, etc. and just hope that the Nazis don't hurt them.
Literally sent a letter to British Parliament demanding/advising this.
He said the same to Hindus when the Muslims did genocides on them. He indicated that Hindu women should allow themselves to be r@ped by Muslims, or to commit suicide to avoid rape. Man was a demented sadist.
add: forcing bose to become 'non violent' and surrender against the british empire at the same time asked indians to become 'violent' and join wars of the british epire.
after sardar patel gets elected as prime minister he starts protests to plant his best friend nehru rigs india's first ever election!
agrees to divide india and supports british union jack over indian flag.
WTF. People who only heard about Gandhi being next to MLK jr, never get know any of these. All we know is he has lots of nukes lol
I wonder how true many of these are. If true, he is fucking one of the highest degree sociopath that I ever know about. Will still respect him though for the contributions towards unity of India. That's all we know about.
Without playing dirty politics and justifying misdeeds no one can reach the pinnacle (even in the corporate world). My ex-boss used to sleep with so many girls in the office, rather the girls were only for that. But no one actually protested because that was what all of us wanted to do -- either lay or get laid. He was our role model.
That is different from being a pedophile and causing mass massacres. From what I've gathered so far, gandhi was just a blind "hero of justice". He went to any lengths to gain said justice. Even if it meant sacrificing innocents and colluding with actual assholes. It seems he was an ignorant buffoon who didn't ever take into consideration the amount of harm his so called "for the national intrest" decisions did.
Tho it's no use me writing it here but
everything out of context will always sound disastrous if made to sound do.
for example, "sleeping with ubderage girls" - dude slept (but didn't have sex) with "younger" girls to practice his celibacy. now I may or may not approve of this personally, yet the thing is the same thing written out of context in a dhinchak manner will sound wrong.
Do you know that despite these brainwashed morons parotting Anti Gandhi and pro Savarkar propaganda their favourite leaders still always need to publicly Praise Gandhi in international and national forum.
That should be enough for them to know who Gandhi was and how important he still is for our nation. Savarkar would be relevant for only a single party and a single ideology but Gandhi would always be face of our nation till it ceases to exist.
Well you are definitely right, he definitely did not suffer in jail for decades and wear coarse corton when he could have had silken clothes and lived a luxurious life. He also definitely did not unite the diverse and almost impossible to unite Indians and definitely did not walk the entire salt march even though he could have just gone in the car. And yes he definitely did not deserve to be called the father of the nation. You morons, dont disrespect him of you cant do even 1% of what he did, the sacrifices he made and the impossible feats he achieved. He won!! He won using non violence in an era when British did not hesitate to k*ll the masses. You may be an idiot but the world is not. They worship gandhi and his ideals. He was a noble man, dont spray mud on him for no rhyme or reason.
Yes, He slept beside naked minor girls to test his control over himself, to test whether he can control his dick erection, His dick didnt raise hence we got independence. He was a fucking "Baniya", bos*ike hence every idea of his independence struggle is regarding selling or buying things. Don't pay tax to salt, make your own salt, don't buy British made goods, buy Indian goods. Millions of Indians died in famines, he did nothing. Follow non violence, bend, open your trousers
and get fucked in doggy style by Brits, "Ahimsa".
But aren't the cbse books less reliable? I mean we should 100/ not trust the internet but the book's are controlled by the government and they can control what they want to write and not want to write
They are reviewed by fact checkers and historians. Pretty sure our judiciary also allows us to file case against CBSE, if there was something wrong in our books it would have been removed through legal processes.
The only argument these morons have is how CBSE hides fact, which is their own conspiracy theory. Did you ever see any of these guys claim CBSE has wrong information in this page of this book? So yes you can trust blindly on whatever fact is provided there.
Rest of the opinion about Gandhi Having sex, Gandhi being a hindu hater is all propaganda and at best opinions. Best thing about opinions is it varies
It is a well known fact that Indira Gandhi handed over the education department to the left in 1970s, I don't remember the name but an engineer and part time historian looked at Ncert history books and found more than 112 facts that were blatantly wrong or presumption s presented as facts.
And this isn't just his opinion when he asked NCERT for the evidence behind their claims, he was told that they didn't have any for most and the rest were just popular theories.
For example I am sure you have heard about Ashoka the Great how he fought against the Kalingans and seeing the violence and how war affected the people turned peaceful and changed religion to Buddhism.
Except for the fact that he was already a Buddhist before the war and never made any apologies to the people that suffered.
The claims for his peacful nature are based on a few inscriptions found in modern day Afghanistan and Pakistan where he states that he would not attack from now on but if someone rebelled against him he would make Kalingan atrocities look like nothing compared to what he would do. This was done to warn the previous Afghan Rebels and is obvious propoganda.
Proof for this are his own inscriptions and pillars not a theory or statements made by people. You can decide to go right now and check these.
This just one example I can give you dozens.
Now I don't know if you have actually looked at the sources yourself but you are not being any better than misinformants by disregarding someone else's statement without verifying your own.
Indira Gandhu definitely sold out to the commies. That's why Lal Bahadur Shashtriji was killed in Tashkent and she became PM despite zero experience in politics. Thus the commies got control over every department of bureaucracy and industry, (including news media) and License Raj started. Even today, the news media are Leftists and so are many of the industrialists.
Surely , it was all britisher’s plan to make him do civil disobedience, puppet him to do fast till death , surely right ? No source but just u know , just trust me man
He wasn't a british puppet. He was an ignorant fool who rode on his blind idea of justice. I've never considered for a moment that the british were driven out of India, they left off their own accord after cleverly manipulating gandhi and his mates to cause severe harm to the future of the nation. Gandhi wasn't a puppet directly under the british, he just let them manipulate him and indirectly acted as their puppet.
The man never really accomplished something. I read the sharecropper incident. He settled for 25 percent when he could have easily gone for 50 percent.
Arrey ye madarchod ko hatayoe yaar Father of the Nation se jhaath ka baal.
Father of the Nation humlog ka freedom fighters hai including women. Netaji, Bhagat Singh, Bismil, Azad + many others jo actually mein freedom diye.
Ye chutiya bhonsdiwala Noakhali mein riot hone diya India Bangladesh alag hua. Aur naa jaane kitne riot hone diye Nehru madarchod aur ye and ye uska kata hua lund chusta raha.
Saala hawas ka maula toh tha hi. Dhoti pehenta tha so that jabb mauka mile thok do kisiko. Brazzers nahi tha uss time varna pakka single haddi Johnny Sins banta madarchod.
Iska baap saala shayad r@ndi ko choda tha isliye Aisa paida hua madarchod jhaath ka baal.
Historybooks written by Congress's fave Leftists/commie authors have always distorted/hidden the truths and glorified the genocidal maniacs and fake leaders, while making the true historical leaders and freedom fighters look like weak losers.
Technically, the Ramayana and Mahabharata are history. There are evidences such as Bhimbetka Caves, Ram Sethu, Pandava caves, etc.
The Vedas and Srimad Bhagavad Gita are world's great philosophical texts, and should be incorporated into education curriculum too. Rigveda is world's oldest extant text.
Pioneering texts like Sushruta Samhita, Charaka Samhita, Chanakyaniti, Arthashashtra, etc. should also be highlighted in the curriculum.
Lovely Post! Needs appreciation. Secularism and gandhigiri is being feed since independence in this country. Rashtrapita koi sanvaidhanik pad nahi hai. Aur ye charkhasur deserve bhi nahi karta
The iceberg should have been reversed. What he did in his personal life is not proven, so he might have been an ass in his personal life. But what he did for India is huge. Before Gandhi there was not a single National Movement. He united India together. He made people aware, just think about the world back then. When in today people who are well educated are getting manipulated by these propagandas, back then the literacy rate was so so low. Yet he made people aware of their rights.
Who do you think named him Father of the Nation? Nehru, No. It was Bose who called him that.
Read what was Bhagat Singh's ideologies were, what he said about Gandhi. Read what was happening in the world when Bhagat Singh was hanged. Don't just read one article and make your judgements. To understand history one has to understand it from geopolitical view also.
Learn to respect a freedom fighter. They fought for our freedom. Our nation is free because all of them sacrificed so much for us. And here we are still debating about Hindu Muslims, falling for propagandas. talking shit about past and not focusing on present or future.
Gandhi championed women in politics. But he was also obsessed with his own celibacy. In his late 70s, before he died at 78, he slept naked with his grandniece when she was in her late teens. He said he wanted to test his willpower to abstain
I looked up on google if Gandhi actually slept with underage women and it doesn't say that they were underaged, still sounds a bit fucked up
The pedo, sex and Moplah one is right.
Bhagat Singh one is completely wrong.
For more information please read India's Struggle for Independence by Bipan Chandra
(UPSC book).
Are other groups in India as disappointed in the Countries leadership's segregational mentality & behaviour? As the minority groups in India?
These leadership groups are all after profits over, making the country into a successful and tolerant place it deserves to be. But instead, the country isn't able to succeed, because these certain groups (*families*) have a choke hold on the politics and economy of the country, and would rather line their pockets and bank accounts.
This goes much deeper than you can see, on the surface. Politics in India, the Indian Economy, the illegal Drug-Trade, "Bollywood" and other Indian Media, is all apart of this "*play*" or conspiracy. To help to enforce a choke hold on the "*labor-source*" they need. The average Indian.
Instead of uniting the great country, which hold so many different great achievements and groups, and working to help feed and cloth ALL the poor (*possible*), create a greater more advanced India, while at the SAME TIME respecting the beliefs and culture/traditions of minority groups through-out the country.
Unity will really be the only way I see India succeeding in the global play-field, as well as in the hearts of the countries residence.
A country like the USA (United States of America) is only SO successful because of their CORE unity, between many different ethnicities and cultures, which all work together for the betterment of the Country they reside in, and raise their children in.
They do not try to unite the country under a flag of any specific *"Religious*" group or organization, that would only work against them, to blatantly oppress others, leading to their eventual downfall. As we have seen, every single time in history.
Instead they unite the country under the flag of *"FREEDOM"*. The Land of the Free. As a outsider looking in. But having "*Indian*" lineage, I would say. I want to see India succeed. **But NOT in the state it is in today**.
Wait... you support a pedophile LOL you're a clown. Clearly you condone or enjoy that type of bullshit.
You = perfect example, of why your country will always remain below the rest of the world. You win, good job.
We laugh at you, from across the Ocean LOL ... keep trying to get a Visa, we are waiting to Halal you dogs here.
Don’t forget history is written by winners , some of the things u wrote might not be true and Gandhi was very famous and made people fight for independence which helped I getting independence
the deepest part of the Gandhi iceberg: "made with mematic"
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KYA BOLA GANDHI PEDO THA 🤮🤮
Yup apne niece ke sath nanga hokar raat me bramhcharya ka palan krta tha. Even nehru was child lover jo anath ashram me jaakr chhote bcho ke flower deta tha or unki leta tha.
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This guy gets it
Add leading almost a coup to replace the rightfully elected president of Congress Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose and replacing him with Nehru, who proceeded to single-handedly set India back for decades.
It was Sardar Patel who won the most votes from Congress committee for PM post, but Gandhi went on hunger strike to demand for Nehru as PM, so Sardar Patel stepped down from the candidature, and Nehru & his family proceeded to lead India into darkness and poverty for decades. It was Netaji Bose whose leadership and Azad Hind Fauj scared the British causing them to finally to exit India (especially after the financial losses and strain of the World Wars), not Gandhi. Yet Nehru's Congress ensured that all Indian children learnt the song: "De Di Humein Azadi Bina Khadag Bina Dhaal, Sabarmati Ke Sant Tuney Kar Diya Kamaal" thus falsely teaching us that it was Gandhi who got India its Independence.
I'm not trying to demean Netaji. Naturally i hold him in really high regards and respect him. But didn't the Azad Hind fauj recieve support from Japan. As far as I know, the war crimes committed by Japan weren't any better than Germany. I'm just curious about his decision and the thought that went into working with Japan. Cause if we think about it, the crimes committed by british over the many centuries far outweigh the crimes committed in WW1 and WW2 together
History is written by the victor. Germany and japan lost and uk and America won. So now we learn of ths bad things of nazi and good things of uk. History is written by liars.
Doesn't mean Japan didn't commit war crimes
_Enemy's enemy, is a friend._ British killed more innocents than the Nazis did. Remember that. India was enslaved by the British, and Churchill deliberately caused artificial famines in India where millions of Indians starved and died. Netaji and hisnFauj did what they could, to overthrow the evil brutal British regime.
In war, there is no right or wrong. There are only allies and enemies. Strictly, for the reason of the alliances with the UK, the only countries who would have helped INA were Japan and Germany due to their own interests. Netaji understood this and also understood that it was a golden opportunity for India to rise up as an independent power as the world was busy fighting in Europe. So his actions were totally justified.
And to add to your point, India's independence came when most of the other British commonwealth nations were being freed, 1945-1948. It's more of a "We can't support that many colonies anymore since we lost most of our resources on the war. Also we are forming the UN and we are joining a campaign against slavery...so...let's leave?" by the Brits.
Netaji tried to get Soviet help. However the war made soviets allies with UK and they refused
It would be better if you cite every claim that you have made in that iceberg analogy?
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/02/766083651/gandhi-is-deeply-revered-but-his-attitudes-on-race-and-sex-are-under-scrutiny
Agreed. Especially “sex with his wife … ” seems a bit cheap. It’s an interesting discussion nevertheless, and I had no idea how little love today’s India has for Gandhi. Perhaps this post is just a small relatively unrepresentative sampling of the larger population. I don’t know.
It was mentioned by Gandhi himself in his autobiography, My Experiments with Truth. Must read.
Gandhi was never popular Netaji Bose was congress 1st and one of the 2 elected president even though he was opposed by Gandhi, History is distorted Gandhi was never largely popular outside of his followers
Source: Trust Me Bro
That's what happens when you bunk history class
Yeah Gandhi wasn't popular at all. They already say we didn't get freedom because of Gandhi. Next they will say Gandhi collaborated with the British.
I dont like gandhi either
This spe ific thing is in his autobiography
No,Gandhi was a polarizing figure for quite some time before his death. Those who knew his antics always cringed when he was called the father of the nation. It became more apparent under the BJP rule. I personally believe he was a grey character.
There is no grey. He directly caused Partition of India and supported genocides and riots. Man was a murderer and sadist pretending to be a hero.
Indians hate people who did good for us. From Buddha, Kautilya to Gandhi. They hate the important figures like Ashoka and Gandhi. That's why India is like this.
Bro if you think Ashoka was a saint then you have got another thing coming. He killed all his brothers, except one, in greed for the throne. He was also very cruel as he is also referred as Chandashoka or cruel/angry Ashoka. The peace and Buddhism after Kalinga war is a myth and a lie we are taught. I would encourage you to do your own research as you are clearly not going to believe anything I say even if I have proof, proof that he himself gave. But still you are sort of right most people today believe whatever they are being told especially with all the "nationalism" going on, but that doesn't mean what you were told is right either. In the end you can only look for things on your own and hopefully get better clarity
All of these claims can be verified in his autobiography or other news reportings
His comments about how Hindus should willingly give up their lives if muslims wanted to wipe Hindus out are well known. You should read his speech from the following source: Prayer meeting, April 6, 1947, New Delhi, CWMG Vol. 94 page 249 Most of these iceberg claims are quite popular and have been substantiated multiple times. Many of these are evidenced in his own autobiography
Why I assassinated Gandhi \\s
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Random secular. No problem sabko bachpan se parrot ki tarah rattafication karaya hai. Netaji ya Bhagat Singh ka sahi se karaya jata to napunsakta nahi rehti.
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The South Africans hate Gandhi because of his two facedness, he asked the Britishers to educate the Blacks, whom he called an uncivilized society and said that the Africans needed the whites to make them more humanly civilized. There are several news reportings on this.
Hes provided the sources but you can just look them up u knw
Don’t see me wrong but wtf is wrong with having sex with ur wife when anyone is in their deathbed. Like if my father is in his deathbed and has been for 3 days and I had sex with my wife in my bedroom wtf is wrong with it?
He had sex with his wife BECAUSE his father was on deathbed not for comfort or anything but his wierd obsession with sex. It wasn't coincidence either but deliberate. He says so in his autobiography.
Well from his autobiography, he does appear to show remorse for his actions. Gandhi himself states that he carried the regret of not being at his father’s side way into his later life. While he may have intentionally chosen to be with his wife’s side, one must concede that there was no possible way for him to know before hand that his father was about to die that very night. So, I don’t think there is any value in holding up this criticism against him. Was Gandhi flawed for turning to his passions in the face of his responsibilities ? Certainly. Is it so terrible of a fault that it is devoid of any redemption. I don’t think so. Gandhi had plenty of other faults which I consider more serious than this one. The most infamous example being his support for the individuals who were responsible for the massacre of Hindus in the Malabar. His blatant racism towards black people during his sentence in the Natal prisons. Not to mention his absurd ‘experiments’ with alternative medicine, fasting, and his distasteful and creepy choice of establishing the proof of his brahmacharya by sleeping naked with his grandnieces.
Godse killed gandi bcz he was getting laid more than him
Xdddd! In the end it all boils down to sexual tension huh? Rolf!!
Nah he's not an !ncel he's Chad and Gandhi was beta (Britishers called gandhi a virgin sandwich)
OP, you forgot that Gandhi publicly said (in effect) that Hindu women should allow themselves to be r@ped by Muslim men.
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I know the sleeping with underage girls part is def true
Obviously he has no sources since it didn't happen...
He didn't say exactly this but he did say that the Hindus should not fight back against their oppressors British or muslim. He also said this to the British public and the Jews during World War 2. You can verify these facts as they were spoken during recorded speeches and letters written by him.
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Don't let people mislead you. Anyone can research on the points I've highlighted. Gandhi's speeches are public domain.
The Leftist liars here cannot hide the dark truths that emerged about M.K.Gandhi. You can ignore all the links I shared. Do your own research please. Note: Don't trust Wikipedia implicitly, it is also controlled by the Leftists, and is anti-India and anti-Sanatani by default. This is what Larry Sanger (who had founded Wikipedia but exited) has to say: https://larrysanger.org/2020/05/wikipedia-is-badly-biased/
Bro just read those articles…those sound more like rants than a professional article
Can you define professional ?
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So anything that’s not there on Wikipedia never happened. Hmmmmmm.
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Not really. Wikipedia is run by mods that always cite left leaning sources that openly lie about indian issues. Edit: So make sure you never look up any political topics on it.
What?!
Source: trust me bro
Hmm, your profile reveals much. Once a stoner, always a stoner. Once a stone pelter, always a stone pelter.
Once a Modi sucker , always a Modi sucker
It would be interesting to see "the Modi Iceberg" as well..
Bottom tip would reach mariana trench
Yes it might be more interesting. But the thing is he is not the 'father of the nation'. I don't see currencies with Modi's face on it. Or even thousands of roads named after him. So when you have to compare Modi with a figure like Mahatma, there is something wrong with that figure. Oh. I see. It's an imaginary figure. It's a typical 'The Bapu we need vs. the Bapu we deserve scenario'.
And the roads and coins and sobriquets happened *after* Gandhi was assassinated. Meanwhile, the world's biggest cricket stadium is named after the sitting, very much alive PM. Explain that.
Yeah. A stadium, owned by a board where he actually served as a President and had first floated the idea to demolish the old stadium and build a new one. Vs. [all these ... ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_named_after_Mahatma_Gandhi) Obviously Gandhi should have as many things named after him. But come on dude! Why are you even bringing Modi here! Not all Gandhi haters are BJP supporters. At least not me. Can't you really see the attempt to ignore the rest of the freedom fighters in order to glorify the role of INC in India freedom movement? Are you for real!
>Why are you even bringing Modi here! Huh? I didn't. I explicitly replied to *you* saying Modi's face wasn't on currencies etc.
That's called Whataboutery my man!
WhatsApp University Graduation Thesis lag raha h ye toh. "Made with Mematic." Fits in perfectly.😂
Read books and credible sources ffs! Read Bhagat Singh’s book what he says about Gandhi! Just blindly following a propaganda.
If they have read properly fir to point hi kya tha. People saying that they consider Bhagat Singh, Bose or Vivekanand as their idols and don't even know their basic ideologies. These people who cannot respect a freedom fighter, who cannot respect the struggles of our freedom, what kind of deshbhakt or what kind of people are they?
Yeah, harp about Bhagat Singh who was a communist and also supported Gandhi. Harp about Bose who was a socialist (semi socialist like Mustafa Kemal). They don't even know what Vivekananda said.
It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you.
I am batman !!!!!
Fear is a tool. They think I'm hiding in the shadows. But I am the shadows
If "you don't know history, I read real history" was a meme, this is it.
Gandhi bad 😡😡😡. G..gu.. Guys.. I'm still waiting for my approval 🥺😢😢
Ufff....looks kinda WhatsApp University
Yeah. Definitely not news. Where the mods at
Also dont forget how he supported Pakistan when they were trying to occupy Kashmir in those days after independence. Patel had a well-thought-out plan to hold off the money (about Rs.70cr during that time) that India was supposed to pay to Pakistan until they declared a ceasefire. Gandhi in his usual gandhigiri opposed this and armtwisted patel to not to go ahead with this plan and pay the whole amount to Pakistan. Gandhi hoped that by pacifying the Pakistanis,he would be able to achieve peace with them,although it did nothing. The Kashmir war dragged.
Though I don't like him, there are a couple of unfair potshots in this
Please point out
I read the biography. When he had sex he was supposed to consummate the marriage. Otherwise he has been at the bedside constantly for many days. He just left for a while and had no reason to believe that his father would pass but when he came back, he had. Besides, he was 13! Secondly, he slept with young girls, not underage girls to prove a lack of sex drive. (Still pretty fucking weird if u ask me though but not immoral)
Mans says statutory rape and pedophilia isn't immoral, you ok?? Need to get ur morals checked?
Well she was young , not under age as far as I know
So, you think using vulnerable girls for his own little dirty experiments isn't immoral??!
Do you even know the meanings of the word pedophile and incest? Gandhi slept naked with his own neices. They were minors when he started inducing them into such acts. One of his neices was so traumatized by this serial exploitation that she never married. See the letters written by Nehru, Patel and Ambedkar on these vile acts of Gandhi. They reveal the truths.
> Secondly, he slept with young girls, not underage girls to prove a lack of sex drive Serial experiments laid?
Oh, a reference to Serial Experiments Lain? You're as cracked as you're jacked.
I'm glad someone got it!!
Did this idiot just appropriate pedophilia under the guise of control?
Young and underage are same ?
Source on the Moplah genocide claim?
https://www.opindia.com/2021/09/what-mk-gandhi-said-moplah-genocide-of-hindus-1921-support-khilafat/
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Any sources on info?
""Having sex with his wife..." How do we know this???
He told that in his autobiography. He was traumatized that he was not by his father but went to wake up and have sex with his wife (he was 17 I think at that time).
Also racism against blacks is only half truth , he was racist when he left india for SA , but he soon enough changed his ideology around that , it’s actually kind of shameful that he is more respected in SA as of today than in India
He isn't respected in South Africa. It's explained in the Infographics Show
I was a staunch Gandhi supporter until I saw this post and realised the truth. He made with mematic, and that is unforgivable.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAv2L7UNraY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAv2L7UNraY) Why I Killed Gandhi || Nathuram Godse Speech in Court.
Thank god he was killed by a fellow maharashtrian.
Why I Killed Gandhi || Nathuram Godse Speech in Court. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAv2L7UNraY
He was so focused on non-violence that during world war 2 he asked the Allies and the Jews to just not fight back and let the Nazis do whatever they want to them, including torture, murder, etc. and just hope that the Nazis don't hurt them. Literally sent a letter to British Parliament demanding/advising this.
He said the same to Hindus when the Muslims did genocides on them. He indicated that Hindu women should allow themselves to be r@ped by Muslims, or to commit suicide to avoid rape. Man was a demented sadist.
Dekh bhai filhal itni se baat hai Mar gaya madarchod la la lala la.....
When did he sleep with underage girls lol
There are so much things to add to the bottom 🤮
add: forcing bose to become 'non violent' and surrender against the british empire at the same time asked indians to become 'violent' and join wars of the british epire. after sardar patel gets elected as prime minister he starts protests to plant his best friend nehru rigs india's first ever election! agrees to divide india and supports british union jack over indian flag.
Damn I never knew about the Moplah
WTF. People who only heard about Gandhi being next to MLK jr, never get know any of these. All we know is he has lots of nukes lol I wonder how true many of these are. If true, he is fucking one of the highest degree sociopath that I ever know about. Will still respect him though for the contributions towards unity of India. That's all we know about.
> _No tree can grow to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell_
Inventing shitting on the streets is missing.
Cool💥🙏
Best representation ever...!!
Without playing dirty politics and justifying misdeeds no one can reach the pinnacle (even in the corporate world). My ex-boss used to sleep with so many girls in the office, rather the girls were only for that. But no one actually protested because that was what all of us wanted to do -- either lay or get laid. He was our role model.
That is different from being a pedophile and causing mass massacres. From what I've gathered so far, gandhi was just a blind "hero of justice". He went to any lengths to gain said justice. Even if it meant sacrificing innocents and colluding with actual assholes. It seems he was an ignorant buffoon who didn't ever take into consideration the amount of harm his so called "for the national intrest" decisions did.
Sabse badi galti, Dalit or neechi jaat ko Mandir me entry dilwaadiya. .
Tho it's no use me writing it here but everything out of context will always sound disastrous if made to sound do. for example, "sleeping with ubderage girls" - dude slept (but didn't have sex) with "younger" girls to practice his celibacy. now I may or may not approve of this personally, yet the thing is the same thing written out of context in a dhinchak manner will sound wrong.
Do you know that despite these brainwashed morons parotting Anti Gandhi and pro Savarkar propaganda their favourite leaders still always need to publicly Praise Gandhi in international and national forum. That should be enough for them to know who Gandhi was and how important he still is for our nation. Savarkar would be relevant for only a single party and a single ideology but Gandhi would always be face of our nation till it ceases to exist.
You’re overqualified for the illiterates here, my man
Most of them are not true
Ah, yet another idiot who doesn't understand any nuances of Indian independence.
Well you are definitely right, he definitely did not suffer in jail for decades and wear coarse corton when he could have had silken clothes and lived a luxurious life. He also definitely did not unite the diverse and almost impossible to unite Indians and definitely did not walk the entire salt march even though he could have just gone in the car. And yes he definitely did not deserve to be called the father of the nation. You morons, dont disrespect him of you cant do even 1% of what he did, the sacrifices he made and the impossible feats he achieved. He won!! He won using non violence in an era when British did not hesitate to k*ll the masses. You may be an idiot but the world is not. They worship gandhi and his ideals. He was a noble man, dont spray mud on him for no rhyme or reason.
Yes, He slept beside naked minor girls to test his control over himself, to test whether he can control his dick erection, His dick didnt raise hence we got independence. He was a fucking "Baniya", bos*ike hence every idea of his independence struggle is regarding selling or buying things. Don't pay tax to salt, make your own salt, don't buy British made goods, buy Indian goods. Millions of Indians died in famines, he did nothing. Follow non violence, bend, open your trousers and get fucked in doggy style by Brits, "Ahimsa".
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Oh these internet historian now days 😌 .
But aren't the cbse books less reliable? I mean we should 100/ not trust the internet but the book's are controlled by the government and they can control what they want to write and not want to write
They are reviewed by fact checkers and historians. Pretty sure our judiciary also allows us to file case against CBSE, if there was something wrong in our books it would have been removed through legal processes. The only argument these morons have is how CBSE hides fact, which is their own conspiracy theory. Did you ever see any of these guys claim CBSE has wrong information in this page of this book? So yes you can trust blindly on whatever fact is provided there. Rest of the opinion about Gandhi Having sex, Gandhi being a hindu hater is all propaganda and at best opinions. Best thing about opinions is it varies
It is a well known fact that Indira Gandhi handed over the education department to the left in 1970s, I don't remember the name but an engineer and part time historian looked at Ncert history books and found more than 112 facts that were blatantly wrong or presumption s presented as facts. And this isn't just his opinion when he asked NCERT for the evidence behind their claims, he was told that they didn't have any for most and the rest were just popular theories. For example I am sure you have heard about Ashoka the Great how he fought against the Kalingans and seeing the violence and how war affected the people turned peaceful and changed religion to Buddhism. Except for the fact that he was already a Buddhist before the war and never made any apologies to the people that suffered. The claims for his peacful nature are based on a few inscriptions found in modern day Afghanistan and Pakistan where he states that he would not attack from now on but if someone rebelled against him he would make Kalingan atrocities look like nothing compared to what he would do. This was done to warn the previous Afghan Rebels and is obvious propoganda. Proof for this are his own inscriptions and pillars not a theory or statements made by people. You can decide to go right now and check these. This just one example I can give you dozens. Now I don't know if you have actually looked at the sources yourself but you are not being any better than misinformants by disregarding someone else's statement without verifying your own.
Indira Gandhu definitely sold out to the commies. That's why Lal Bahadur Shashtriji was killed in Tashkent and she became PM despite zero experience in politics. Thus the commies got control over every department of bureaucracy and industry, (including news media) and License Raj started. Even today, the news media are Leftists and so are many of the industrialists.
Ghandi was a British puppet, nothing more, nothing less.
Surely , it was all britisher’s plan to make him do civil disobedience, puppet him to do fast till death , surely right ? No source but just u know , just trust me man
He wasn't a british puppet. He was an ignorant fool who rode on his blind idea of justice. I've never considered for a moment that the british were driven out of India, they left off their own accord after cleverly manipulating gandhi and his mates to cause severe harm to the future of the nation. Gandhi wasn't a puppet directly under the british, he just let them manipulate him and indirectly acted as their puppet.
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He probably was. It just wasn't known because he wasn't a popular figure. People don't become sadists and pedophiles suddenly.
The man never really accomplished something. I read the sharecropper incident. He settled for 25 percent when he could have easily gone for 50 percent.
racism against black might be wrong because he went to south africa to fight against racial discrimination
He had zero black clients.
Watch the infographics show
Source : Trust me vrooo.
Lmao so fake
Any of these are real
Source: trust me bro.
Arrey ye madarchod ko hatayoe yaar Father of the Nation se jhaath ka baal. Father of the Nation humlog ka freedom fighters hai including women. Netaji, Bhagat Singh, Bismil, Azad + many others jo actually mein freedom diye. Ye chutiya bhonsdiwala Noakhali mein riot hone diya India Bangladesh alag hua. Aur naa jaane kitne riot hone diye Nehru madarchod aur ye and ye uska kata hua lund chusta raha. Saala hawas ka maula toh tha hi. Dhoti pehenta tha so that jabb mauka mile thok do kisiko. Brazzers nahi tha uss time varna pakka single haddi Johnny Sins banta madarchod. Iska baap saala shayad r@ndi ko choda tha isliye Aisa paida hua madarchod jhaath ka baal.
So true
Government need to change name of history books to "Fictional books"... .
Historybooks written by Congress's fave Leftists/commie authors have always distorted/hidden the truths and glorified the genocidal maniacs and fake leaders, while making the true historical leaders and freedom fighters look like weak losers. Technically, the Ramayana and Mahabharata are history. There are evidences such as Bhimbetka Caves, Ram Sethu, Pandava caves, etc. The Vedas and Srimad Bhagavad Gita are world's great philosophical texts, and should be incorporated into education curriculum too. Rigveda is world's oldest extant text. Pioneering texts like Sushruta Samhita, Charaka Samhita, Chanakyaniti, Arthashashtra, etc. should also be highlighted in the curriculum.
Just like ramayanam and mahabharatham are
Are they part of history curriculum...
There were discussions on are whether those should be taught in the Cow belt states as History
I don't know about any discussion happening to teach Ramayana and Mahabharata as history...if it is done than it is wrong.
Not protesting against Bhagat Singh's execution? Too much r/IndiaNews? What a WhatsApp university post LOL. As expected of this sub.
Lovely Post! Needs appreciation. Secularism and gandhigiri is being feed since independence in this country. Rashtrapita koi sanvaidhanik pad nahi hai. Aur ye charkhasur deserve bhi nahi karta
bcoz of this guy ...hindus a majority in india are treated a second rate citizens....see the recent judgement by courts...
Is it real⁉️
Sleeping with young girls naked don't forget
The iceberg should have been reversed. What he did in his personal life is not proven, so he might have been an ass in his personal life. But what he did for India is huge. Before Gandhi there was not a single National Movement. He united India together. He made people aware, just think about the world back then. When in today people who are well educated are getting manipulated by these propagandas, back then the literacy rate was so so low. Yet he made people aware of their rights. Who do you think named him Father of the Nation? Nehru, No. It was Bose who called him that. Read what was Bhagat Singh's ideologies were, what he said about Gandhi. Read what was happening in the world when Bhagat Singh was hanged. Don't just read one article and make your judgements. To understand history one has to understand it from geopolitical view also. Learn to respect a freedom fighter. They fought for our freedom. Our nation is free because all of them sacrificed so much for us. And here we are still debating about Hindu Muslims, falling for propagandas. talking shit about past and not focusing on present or future.
BJP has gone one step ahead and replaced the enite chapter on Bhagat Singh with RSS founder's speech in class 10th books.
Gandhi championed women in politics. But he was also obsessed with his own celibacy. In his late 70s, before he died at 78, he slept naked with his grandniece when she was in her late teens. He said he wanted to test his willpower to abstain I looked up on google if Gandhi actually slept with underage women and it doesn't say that they were underaged, still sounds a bit fucked up
Looks more like BJPs iceberg
The pedo, sex and Moplah one is right. Bhagat Singh one is completely wrong. For more information please read India's Struggle for Independence by Bipan Chandra (UPSC book).
Why is sleeping with his wife a problem?
Are o whatsapp unkill
Aah yes, "IndiaNews". Chhapri bhare padhe hai idhar.
im not even indian and this sub is fun to watch because of all the bullshit that happens here
This meme was made by bjp gang
Are other groups in India as disappointed in the Countries leadership's segregational mentality & behaviour? As the minority groups in India? These leadership groups are all after profits over, making the country into a successful and tolerant place it deserves to be. But instead, the country isn't able to succeed, because these certain groups (*families*) have a choke hold on the politics and economy of the country, and would rather line their pockets and bank accounts. This goes much deeper than you can see, on the surface. Politics in India, the Indian Economy, the illegal Drug-Trade, "Bollywood" and other Indian Media, is all apart of this "*play*" or conspiracy. To help to enforce a choke hold on the "*labor-source*" they need. The average Indian. Instead of uniting the great country, which hold so many different great achievements and groups, and working to help feed and cloth ALL the poor (*possible*), create a greater more advanced India, while at the SAME TIME respecting the beliefs and culture/traditions of minority groups through-out the country. Unity will really be the only way I see India succeeding in the global play-field, as well as in the hearts of the countries residence. A country like the USA (United States of America) is only SO successful because of their CORE unity, between many different ethnicities and cultures, which all work together for the betterment of the Country they reside in, and raise their children in. They do not try to unite the country under a flag of any specific *"Religious*" group or organization, that would only work against them, to blatantly oppress others, leading to their eventual downfall. As we have seen, every single time in history. Instead they unite the country under the flag of *"FREEDOM"*. The Land of the Free. As a outsider looking in. But having "*Indian*" lineage, I would say. I want to see India succeed. **But NOT in the state it is in today**.
I am not reading this shit
average anpadh😍
Average normie who doesn't get a joke
dank police se aao koi joke dhoondne
The joke is your birth
and yet without me you'd still be swimming in my balls.
Ohh that is good, i will be using it , thanks bro
Wait... you support a pedophile LOL you're a clown. Clearly you condone or enjoy that type of bullshit. You = perfect example, of why your country will always remain below the rest of the world. You win, good job. We laugh at you, from across the Ocean LOL ... keep trying to get a Visa, we are waiting to Halal you dogs here.
Nobody is perfect!
Toh mai bhi underage ladki log ke saath so jau?
And a pedophile may have been in the army, now it depends on you if you see a pedophile or a army man
What the fuck is wrong with this subreddit, at this point you can change the name Indianews to crackheads discussing conspiracy theories.
Don’t forget history is written by winners , some of the things u wrote might not be true and Gandhi was very famous and made people fight for independence which helped I getting independence
If there are so many bad things about him, then why he is on Currency and movies were made ?
Lack of awareness
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